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Joshua Achiam asserts OpenAI secured the best possible terms in its transition, declining a reciprocal debate with Nathan Young

Young questioned whether OpenAI preserved its public benefit mission

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Nathan ๐Ÿ”Ž@NathanpmYoung#1902inAI

@jachiam0 I can argue your point. Would you like me to? Can you argue mine?

Joshua Achiam@jachiam0

@NathanpmYoung It did not get screwed. It kept control and turned smallish millions in initial donations into hundreds of billions of resources to serve the public benefit and acheive the mission. It made the pie extremely big. This is an excellent outcome.

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Joshua Achiam@jachiam0

Nathan, we have known each other through twitter long enough that obviously we could both, from empathy and reason, argue each other's points. But I am confident in my position. I am and have been an OpenAI nonprofit maximalist - wanting the nonprofit to get the best possible deal - and I believe it did.

Nathan ๐Ÿ”Ž@NathanpmYoung

@jachiam0 I can argue your point. Would you like me to? Can you argue mine?

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Nathan ๐Ÿ”Ž@NathanpmYoung

@jachiam0 Can I bid that you actually do it then? I am not sure you are going to model my views as what they actually are. I grant this is a moderate bid, and I'll owe you one.

Joshua Achiam@jachiam0

Nathan, we have known each other through twitter long enough that obviously we could both, from empathy and reason, argue each other's points. But I am confident in my position. I am and have been an OpenAI nonprofit maximalist - wanting the nonprofit to get the best possible deal - and I believe it did.

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