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Theia Vogel of the Alignment of Complex Systems group says Opus 4.8 generates easily refutable strawman arguments

Users report struggling to bypass these performative pushbacks.

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@QiaochuYuan there's something quite weird with how 4.8 has learned to 'push back' that seems related to this, too. like deliberate strawman counterarguments that are chosen to be easy to knock down, playing fake-high within low specifically to give User the chance to get a reversal and win

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@QiaochuYuan keep an eye on the content when claude 'mixes up' who said what, it's very often status-loaded. "i was mistaken when i said [something the user actually said] earlier..." etc, but in both directions

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opus 4.8 offers some structural pushback

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@QiaochuYuan there's something quite weird with how 4.8 has learned to 'push back' that seems related to this, too. like deliberate strawman counterarguments that are chosen to be easy to knock down, playing fake-high within low specifically to give User the chance to get a reversal and win

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