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- Astark, on 07/10/2009, -8/+45You hear that Earth? No more than 2 degrees Celsius, or else.
- Ninh, on 07/10/2009, -10/+34As successfully as they prevented the financial crisis.
- frostbyt, on 07/09/2009, -22/+45How are they going to control natural warming and cooling cycles of the earth?
- BalancingAct, on 07/09/2009, -13/+25"Developed and developing nations have agreed that global temperatures should not rise more than 2C above 1900 levels, a G8 summit declaration says.
That is the level above which, the UN says, the Earth's climate system would become dangerously unstable. "
I notice that they didn't bother to explain in what way it would become "unstable". The Earth has been significantly warmer for 99.9% of the last 700 million years (and more) of the Earth's history, and all is well
http://csccc.fcpp.org/files/f12.jpg - Subduction, on 07/10/2009, -9/+20They aren't, they are going to control man's artificial contribution to the natural warming and cooling cycles of the earth.
- twiztidsinz, on 07/10/2009, -8/+19BAN NATURE!
- Zomgondo, on 07/10/2009, -10/+18These comments suck.
- odnaryperson, on 07/09/2009, -6/+13phew... were safe!
- Kate1240, on 07/10/2009, -6/+12Why don't they call it global warming anymore? ...they refer to it as Climate Change? What is going on here..?
- Subduction, on 07/10/2009, -6/+12Someone who invokes a supreme being in 3. should not be talking about bad science in 1.
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -4/+10fxmulder does have a point... I don't think we can really choose what temp to keep the Earth at seeing how its been fluctuating for 4 billion year, the only choice is how much do we contribute to it. It pisses me off when world leaders set goals which miss the point
- Gumphlumph, on 07/10/2009, -9/+15I'm always amused by the ridiculously misinformed comments people post on Digg on the subject of global warming. It's true, there is no global warming, it's all a liberal scare tactic; just like it's true that Satan buried dinosaur bones in the ground to confuse us.
It's also true that the majority of human beings are morons that can't see further than the ends of their own noses or beyond the extent of their own greed - unless you're all qualified atmospheric researchers and geologists that is? - Ranzera, on 07/10/2009, -2/+7@ PurpleTentacle
There's been no record cold.. There has been a slight cooling lately but it's completely attributable to Solar phases. Green house gases trap less heat if there's less heat to trap. The variance in heat output of our star is tied fairly closely to it's sunspot count.
Explanation:
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.sht ... - treehugger87, on 07/10/2009, -1/+6You're bitching about your taxes while the corporations are consolidating more and more of the world's wealth and using propaganda to fuel their profits regardless of the consequences. You've chosen to listen to the oil company's talking points instead of the universally accepted opinion of all of the world's best scientists. God help us all.
- WasabiBomb, on 07/10/2009, -4/+8If it's on the internet, it's got to be true.
- MacParrot, on 07/10/2009, -0/+4Nope, it was Bush da First
- Deausx, on 07/10/2009, -0/+4Its sad that people are so indoctrinated to one side of the debate or the other that even when you pointed out that FairDink and EricS were both wrong, and that the website you linked to in fact had nothing to do with "Joe the Plumber" you still got dugg down and they got dugg up.
- treehugger87, on 07/10/2009, -2/+6Because it is not universally true that the climate change we are currently experiencing will always make it more warm in all places. Too many people (idiots, imho), could not fathom the notion that we were experiencing global warming on a cold, rainy day in July and would provide local data about cooler temperatures as evidence that global warming was a fraud.
- methdwman3, on 07/10/2009, -9/+13And if it goes about 2 degrees? Lemme guess - a strongly worded letter from the UN to the whole wide world.
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -0/+4Because the extra energy in the system the Coriolis effect produces extremes of both. Its been colder than records in Southern Australia but last summer was viscous. The mean average is higher, the oceans are warmer, they generate heat cycles and that produces bigger High and Low pressure streams which give the impression it is colder, in reality its warmer generally.
- ajwinder, on 07/10/2009, -3/+7I was going to flip about the graph, but at least they recognize the earth is older than 6000 years...
- MacParrot, on 07/10/2009, -2/+5How? There is no magic solution. Poorer countries can't afford to completely redo their power grids and replace every car with something other than an internal combustion engine. Heck, even the richest of nations can't do it. Good luck getting the rest of world to control their population growth too.
This is little more than a publicity stunt. I'm not saying something shouldn't be done, but let's not pretend that there's a guy sitting a switch to cool down the globe when it reaches the red mark. - mikeman10001, on 07/10/2009, -1/+4It's an easy way for world super powers to overcome their dependace on oil.
- EricSchC1, on 07/10/2009, -5/+8I think its funny how the loudest climate change denials are coming from the right side of the spectrum (i.e.: Christina conservatives & the like), yet no one sees the parallels to how the self-ordained "God's people" denied the biblical floods were coming too. Not saying I believe in the bible either, but the comparison is simultaneously amusing and pathetic...something about history and those who don't remember it...
- treehugger87, on 07/10/2009, -2/+5It's funny, except I think that more than a few of them believe that the world coming to an end is a good thing. They're convinced Jesus is going to come down on a flaming chariot and violently destroy everyone they don't agree with.
- Zomgondo, on 07/10/2009, -2/+5Don't forget, they're also highly skilled economists as well!
- treehugger87, on 07/10/2009, -0/+3This is proper grammar in England. Any reference to something with a plurality gets a plural adjective.
"Bank of America are ***** over the world economy"
"Manchester United are a great team this year"
"The American Republican party are a bunch of tools"
So in response to your snarky "why don't you know any grammar" comment, I would respond "why don't you anything about another culture besides your own?" - PurpleTentacle, on 07/10/2009, -5/+8Since people are apparently upset at this, from the graph IN THE ARTICLE, you can see that the worldwide temperatures are in fact cooling recently. That's from the article, by the BBC, a non conservative or right publication. There's arguments to be made on whether or not this is significant, but stop digging people down for stating the truth: they stopped calling it "global warming" when worldwide temperatures stop warming and started cooling.
- treehugger87, on 07/10/2009, -0/+3@MacParrot poorer countries are not the problem. I believe that the purpose of the G8 is to have a meeting of the 8 *largest* countries, so when you say "even the richest of nations can't do it", this meeting seems to have ended in an agreement that those richest nations are now going to try instead of just throwing up their hands and saying it's too hard.
And no, of course there is no magic switch that we can throw that is going to drop the temperature, but certainly taking action to slow or reverse the current trend is a sensible step (though about 30 years too late) . - Krakerjax, on 07/10/2009, -1/+4A) The graph is sourced, allbeit very *****.
B) The earth will be fine, our species however, probably won't be. - areyouserial, on 07/10/2009, -0/+3Let's not forget that the founding fathers made sacrifices in the name of liberty, and by their own free choice. A much different context for sacrifice than the one you're implying Eric.
A boot on every neck won't solve this problem. In my opinion, only a technological breakthrough that generates clean, abundant, decentralized energy will stop the pollution and war that comes with the oil economy. - Rudegar, on 07/10/2009, -2/+5not necessarily nobody know for sure if it will do any good
but waiting around until to it's too late will do even less good
I just stated the politician's selling it to his own way of thinking - Suricou, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2A slight higher temperature wouldn't be the end of the world.
It would extend and intensify hurricane season though. Expand deserts a bit. Cause a few mass-migrations as previously barely-farmable land becomes completly unfarmable. Not the end of the world, but extremally expensive. - Bagos1, on 07/13/2009, -0/+2So who doe we cap and trade if the solar system decides not to sign up?
- Barackalypse, on 07/10/2009, -2/+4Hell, if we're going to pick an arbitrary date why not pick the start of the Cenozoic Era (first emergence of mammals) roughly 65 million years ago when the Earth was substantially warmer than it is now? The temperature from 109 years year ago has zero significance to a planet as old as Earth.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/temperat ... - nirvanix, on 07/10/2009, -2/+4It's not a 'leftist' agenda, it's a wall street agenda. Gore and his wall street buddies formed Generation Investment Management to administer carbon taxes and make billions for themselves.
- MacParrot, on 07/10/2009, -0/+2First it was the Pancreas acting up, but then you got all quiet. Then the liver got wise so we we took it out. Think you're so safe there internal organ?
- inactive, on 07/10/2009, -6/+8Open your eyes, the graph has a legend that clearly credits the source of the temperature data to "C. R. Scotese", a PhD researcher with 25 years in the field: http://www.scotese.com/
- frishackbanned, on 07/10/2009, -1/+3I would agree with you, except that it's not about left-right, it's about rich-poor, and control.
- Barackalypse, on 07/10/2009, -1/+3You do know the Earth has cooled over 15 C in the last 100 million years, right?
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/ - RonPauls, on 07/10/2009, -0/+2For an encore, they could pass a new law making gravity not as intense or repeal some of newton's laws.
After all, laws actually do something! - FairDinkumMate, on 07/10/2009, -7/+9Did you just quote Joe the Plumber as a climate change expert?
LMAO. - Suricou, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Wow, those leftists are so powerful in their fraud they managed to convince almost the entire community of climatologists, the UN, every European government, one of the major US political parties and most of the media! All without anyone finding out about this conspiricy of tens of thousands of people!
\s - jeffbw, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2I have a one way ticket to the Cretaceous for you, my learning impaired friend.
- frishackbanned, on 07/10/2009, -3/+5'climate-denial' , Ok this insanity has gone far enough. The myth of 'man-made global warming' must be put down like the rabid dog that it has become. The science is so bad, and completely not proven. The whole concept is a scam to bring in new taxes, and more governmental controls.
- FairDinkumMate, on 07/10/2009, -2/+4And we're not anymore?
- MWeather, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Coal doesn't exactly have a small footprint. Mountaintop removal has destroyed about 2000 square miles of land.
- Zomgondo, on 07/10/2009, -2/+4Because truth has a well-known liberal bias!
- Suricou, on 07/11/2009, -0/+2Arbitary? It's not arbitary. 1900 is just before humans started large-scale industry fueled by coal. A hundred years is nothing in geological terms, so any significent change since then should be a result of human activity.
- StopTheLie, on 07/10/2009, -2/+41. You don't need to be a "climate change expert" to verify or comprehend the information I've put forward.
2. I am quoting something I wrote a while back (I am NOT "Joe The Plumber")
3. It worries me that: A) People don't know the difference between "plumber" and "Plummer," B) don't realize "Joe The Plumber" wasn't actually a licensed plumber and C) his last name was neither "Plummer" or "Plumber."...That seems like a lot of things to get wrong in one simple assumption. -
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