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- aerohead80, on 10/10/2007, -35/+183Well in doing so they also banned the kid from wearing anything with the American Flag as well. I'm really getting sick of the whole attitude of "In America we can't display our flag because we might offend people who live here that came from other countries." I'm of the mindset that if you want to live in America you should embrace it and be proud of it. This country has its flaws, but I still say I'm proud to be an American and could give a damn if someone is offended because we display our flag and not a foreign flag. Many brave young men and women died defending this country and that flag means a lot to many veterans and most of the citizens in this nation. Down with stupid PC BS!
- SwingCorey, on 10/10/2007, -7/+81This is idiotic. What's next? You can't wear your favorite pro sports jersey because somebody might not like that team? Maybe I won't be able to wear a New Orleans Saints jersey because someone will become depressed thinking about Hurricane Katrina.
Since when did the Thought Police merge with the Fashion Police? - nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -11/+79their reasoning is that they wouldn't know which flags should "be permissible." I've got an idea, how about EVERY FLAG?
- chicoer2001, on 10/10/2007, -2/+37The American flag is a flag. The ban is on all flags. It probably started because someone bitched about a student wearing a Mexican flag tshirt, now it's turned into this. If people stopped bitching, this wouldnt happen. I dont care if a kid wears a Mexican, a Japanese or an American flag. Why do other people?
- uptown, on 10/10/2007, -5/+38F 'em. If I was a student there, I'd wear the flag to school everyday.
- bstein80, on 10/10/2007, -8/+32People should call the principal, Wesley Johnson, at 910-594-0242 and let him know how they feel.
- nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26having a swastika isn't against the law, schools shouldn't ban it either (they can ban "kill-the-jews" rallies, but they shouldn't ban the symbol).
- brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -5/+27"I'm sorry teacher, I'm just unable to learn long division today. That Nazi design Billy has on his shirt is interfering with my brain waves."
- nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23that's ***** stupid. any flag should be allowed, national or not.
- epublicus, on 10/10/2007, -6/+25Pay attention folks! We will get the "government" that we allow.
As old uncle Benny once put it,"We have given you a republic,....for as long as you may hold on to it!"
Wake up. Hang on. - CaptainNoPants, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20home-schooling is fine, assuming the parents have the time and capability to actually teach someone.
- brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18If you're talking about the swastika that would depend on how it's presented. It's an extremely ancient symbol found in just about every old world culture on earth, from pre-Columbian America to India. In Hinduism it's the symbol for well-being. To the Navajo it was the symbol for whirling winds. Of course, most people that would brandish one today probably are presenting the Nazi version, but I've heard of Native American children being kicked out of school for wearing one that was merely a symbol of their heritage.
- SomeHobo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19Did you read the article? They're saying that they are banning ALL flags, not because too many people were wearing the American flag but because they were bringing other countries flags and they decided to ban flags altogether. I understand that if they would ban all flags EXCEPT the american flag that wouldn't sound very good and they would propbably get sued over it so they decided to ban all flags altogether....
Although, personally I don't understand why they would do such a thing, why would you care if someone has a french, mexican, Afghani or whatever flag? In a free country people should be free to support whatever country they wish... - mdwhite, on 10/10/2007, -14/+30What lunacy...I'm sure that the multi-colored "gay flag" would be allowed on "Gay Pride Day" or that the "earth flag" would be perfectly acceptable during "Save the Environment Week." People...real people...are getting sick of this crap and, one day, there will be a reckoning.
- ukblacknight, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19This is the kind of BS we have to put up with in the UK. In some parts, you have to have permission to fly the union flag or the St. Georges flag, in which it's not uncommon for it to be denied. Apparently, it "offends" the muslims and so on - however most muslim's aren't offended at all! If I emigrated somewhere, I wouldn't expect the natvies to take down their national flag because of foreigners. If people do have a problem with seeing the natives flying their own flag, then what are they doing in that country in the first place?
- cawpin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16They rescinded the ban because of all the attention. I'm still digging this story though because the poster intentionally chose a less sensationalist headline.
http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-12-0013.html - ZebraCrew, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Actually, most likely someone bitched about someone wearing the confederate battle jack. I live in NC and when i was in high school they tried to ban the confederate flag because the blacks in the school found it "offensive." Long story short: that measure failed miserably. Just like a large portion of my high school student body did.
- jeremye, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14UPDATE: Ban has been lifted: http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-12-0013.html
- nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13uhm.... u being sarcastic? if so, you're really bad at it. if not, you're a horrible horrible person (there ARE legal immigrants who like to remember where they came from, in case you didn't know).
- Akaji, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15Nazi flag/emblem?
- ageeksgirl08, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Why couldn't they let students wear any nation's flag? Or would that have been the incredibly easy thing to do?
Stupid-blind-cowardly-*****. - brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13I'm pretty sure the Native Americans didn't need YOU in the United States either, you piece of *****.
Every single one of us are the offspring of immigrants. - mattyG, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13America is becoming less of a melting pot
The melting pot is a metaphor for the way in which heterogenous societies develop, in which the ingredients in the pot (people of different cultures and religions) are combined so as to lose their discrete identities and yield a final product of uniform consistency and flavor, which is quite different from the original inputs. This process is also known as assimilation.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot
There is now a large percentage of the population who is not assimilating nor learning English and it is affecting this country in a bad way. - Brodels, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12"Well in doing so they also banned the kid from wearing anything with the American Flag as well. I'm really getting sick of the whole attitude of "In America we can't display our flag because we might offend people who live here that came from other countries.""
Are you kidding me? The American flag is *everywhere* whenever I've been to America. I like the fact that it's flown so much there, although it does come across slightly excessive and introverted sometimes, for the most part I think it's a good thing. You hardly ever see the Union flag or the Cross of St George in England unless there is a football tournament on. - inblue, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15right on. america would not be america (hence the nickname "melting pot") if it were not for the other countries that made america. every flag should be 'permissible'. rules and regulations of freedom of expression, speech, etc. only brings on more segregation and hate.
- MeMongo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Update: The ban has been rescinded:
http://digg.com/world_news/School_Rescinds_Ban_On_Flag_Clothing
Or if you just want to go straight to the story:
http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-12-0013.html - JoeVet, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13I don't believe that there is a country who's flag contains a swastika. Nazi paraphernalia is reserved for hate groups and would not count as a national flag. Bowing to pressure by closed minded people to ban national flags diminishes the objective of education.
- brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Or how about just let people display their religious symbols if they choose and not ban any of them? If someone's offended well then too ***** bad. That would be, you know, FREEDOM.
Pretty awesome idea huh? - Toshibi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9North Carolina schools, as in the North Carolina's School System. It's a system of Schools (plural). Not divulging the exact school that I attended it's fair enough to say that I'm a drop out from the School System which happens to be in North Carolina.
With that being said, ***** off grammar/spelling/language Nazi. This is the internet and these comments aren't a formal letter or even very important, considering half the sentences on this site end up something like "lolomgbbqapplewiilulz in soviet russia!!!111!" - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13The poll results...
Should schools be allowed to ban clothes that display flags?
Yes = 200 / 5%
No = 889 / 22%
An exception should be made for U.S. flags = 2758 / 71%
An exception should be made for other national or cultural flags = 31 / 0% - ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I've never heard of anyone having a problem with the American flag being displayed, and not flags of other nations... The only people I've heard complaining were complaining that people were displaying flags of other nations more than they did the American flag. Then again I live in the South... Most of the people around here have trouble with change.
- Goombellaofgoom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9And then get major press when you're suspended for it. This headline would be in national news within a day or two:
"Student Suspended From High School for Wearing American Flag Tshirt" - brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I'm pretty sure that the flag etiquette refers to how to treat an ACTUAL flag. Section 8b is talking about taking a flag meant to go on a pole and draping it over yourself. This is far different than the DESIGN of the flag appearing on a t-shirt.
- siszam, on 10/10/2007, -18/+26Children need to be home schooled. Schools have turned into politically correct, government brain washing centers. It's disgusting.
- Toshibi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9I'm a North Carolina schools drop out. The education system here sucks so, so bad. It's not just the administrators, but the teachers, and worst of all, the other students. I ***** hated school here. Loved every second of college though.
- brstilson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9So the next time you eat spaghetti/pizza/french fries (chips), remember that you are betraying America because you are taking part in foods that weren't invented here.
- TheWiseNoob, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Maybe everyone should be encouraged to read Fahrenheit 451?
- satx, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12I'm rather ambivalent on this; it is ***** on free speech grounds but, as an anarchist, I can't say I'm a big fan of flags in general. All they do is foster a nationalistic or tribalistic form of arrogance and belligerence.
I guess what I'm trying to say is: they should be allowed to wear them but they shouldn't wear them; kind of like you should be allowed to be a bigot but you shouldn't be a bigot. - inblue, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9of the home schoolers i've known (which weren't many), they are usually socially inept, but probably smarter than the average public school kid. there are just too many distractions in public school so a lot of what they are supposed to be learning gets filtered out by this.
- AJH16, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8How about reading the article and its follow up before posting.
First, the ban has been removed.
Second, the reason for the ban was that flags were being used as gang symbols, not because of some stupid political correctness BS.
Is this still somewhat disturbing that a principle made such an overreaching and horrible decission, sure. But my high school decided to block all knowledge of what was happening on 9/11/2001 until just before we were released from school almost 6 hours after everything happened. Lots of schools make stupid horrible policy decissions. Atleast this one corrected theirs. - tortfeasor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8This is unconstitutional. Tinker v. Des Moines School District
- david76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7This article is already out of date: Superintendent Dr. L. Stewart Hobbs, Jr said they have lifted the ban on flags and “from this point on, all dress code changes will be made at the school board level.” (As of 9/12)
And it was originally started because: Last year, the school system had a problem with the Mexican flag protests, and with gang members using that to hide gang symbols. As a result, one principal banned all flags. - david76, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Everyone seems to be missing the point here.
"The new rule stems from a controversy over students wearing shirts bearing flags of other countries."
What was so controversial about a student wearing a flag of another country in the first place? Who cares if it was Cuba, or the USSR, or Iran, or North Korea. If you're that offended by a piece of fabric, you've got some serious issues. - Goombellaofgoom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Maybe you'd better check again. It's *supposed* to be, but...
- Smiths, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9You are an idiot. The ACLU was never mentioned in that article, and if you knew anything about what you were talking about, as far as the ACLU is concerned, you would know they are for student free-speech in schools. They want everybody to wear what they want. Some how you have bought into the conservative vilification of the one of the great American non-profits. God, I hate people who bash the ACLU without the slightest clue why they hate them - just because they think some stupid *****. Well, the ACLU defends your right to say your stupid *****.
- Waiting2awake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6You've been away for a long time haven't you?
- Kinkistyle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6What if I wanted to wear the Libyan Flag?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Libya.svg - kidal25, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Political Correctness Sucks
- ZebraCrew, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Exactly, once they set foot on American soil their origins are insignificant because they're Americans. /Ridiculous
Wearing the flag of another nation doesn't mean they don't respect America. - nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7so I guess that american flag pin all the politicians wear is a violation of the Flag Code? And btw, the flag code is not law, we changed that years ago.
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