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SLOPPY TRADECRAFT EXPOSES CIA DRUG PLANE
madcowprod.com — Pretty good connections made between CIA and drug-runners! From the site: Seventeen months after an American-registered DC9 airliner was busted with 5.5 tons of cocaine, a major international scandal is brewing over a second drug trafficking incident in Mexico's Yucatan involving an American-registered jet by a dummy front company of the CIA
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- quakerorts, on 10/17/2007, -3/+111CIA drug plane crashes in Mexico. Shades of Iran Contra! The loose and antiquated aircraft registration system in the US appears to be kept that way to allow owners of planes to escape prosecution and hide true ownership. The CIA is well versed in playing the system.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+78It took decades before the CIA finally admitted to MK Ultra, and dosing civilians with LSD in California. Amazing how it all passed by in the mainstream media without any fanfare. Sort of like "Oh, by the way, those conspiracy theories about MK Ultra were true. And now, today's Britney Spears Report."
As far as the South American connections, HW Bush was behind Iran-CONTRA, there is no doubt of this, and now that the Bush family is back in power, many of the same old narco-terror black ops are running once again. This time not just in South America, but in Afghanistan too.- hiphoc, on 10/17/2007, -8/+5They dont call it the Bush Crime Family for nuthin.
- nakani, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2Sometimes I wonder who's more retarded: the people who believe all of the conspiracies, or the ones who don't believe any.
- Zippo, on 10/17/2007, -0/+50Playing the system? They ARE the system.
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Dugg for mentioning Shade of Ar... awww, wait a minute.
- therightside, on 10/10/2007, -16/+3Can we change the name of digg to wefailatlife.com
Seriously you people are a joke. Put down the bongs. Stop thinking everything you see in the movies is real life.- mrgreenjeans, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3You know what? You're right! I'm putting my bong down right now! Thank you for showing me the light.
- wakananda, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1What an ignorant, swaggering yutz... Surely the PTB can find someone less stereotypically white trash to run interference for them on digg.
- Nerfdude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2people still fly DC9's?
- heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Still driving a FORD Exploder are we?
- DiggzDE, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12All I see are a bunch of coincidences. Look away people, nothing to see here.
- diggingaround, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8"War on drugs"?.... maybe we should call it as it is "War on competition" .
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+78It took decades before the CIA finally admitted to MK Ultra, and dosing civilians with LSD in California. Amazing how it all passed by in the mainstream media without any fanfare. Sort of like "Oh, by the way, those conspiracy theories about MK Ultra were true. And now, today's Britney Spears Report."
- polymath22, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/index.shtml#drugs
- FarhadA, on 10/10/2007, -36/+10I would have digged the story if it was from another source, I just have problem with the site.
- leonhyral, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11I would have dugg you up if you hadn't of used the word "digged".
- DustyinBFE, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Why not use Google, and find another one of the probably thousands of syndications of this story on another site then? Would that give you more of a sense of ..... accountability?
- DustyinBFE, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Why not use google, and fine another one of the probably thousands of syndications of this story on another site then? Would that give you more of a sense of ..... accountability?
- jforfreedom, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6What, are you waiting for CNN or FAUX news to run an article?Sheeple.
- MrMan42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Stop saying tha-a-a-a-a-a-a-at!
- obliviousfool, on 10/10/2007, -1/+65Interesting followup to the "Cocaine One" story. You really have to wonder how, in this day and age (oh, especially with the threat of "terrorism") plane registrations can be kept so vague and ambiguous.
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42The same way Bush was able to spy on all of America through AT&T without anyone noticing it. And he still hasn't revealed the extent of the operation, or what's happening right now.
- knobtwiddler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21^ off topic
THE CIA IS A MASSIVE DRUG CARTEL ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we've known it for years and they're still doing it.
i think we can't fully wrap our minds around that . its virtually incomprehensible... the implications, the detriment to society.
the cia are the terrorists.
- knobtwiddler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21^ off topic
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+42The same way Bush was able to spy on all of America through AT&T without anyone noticing it. And he still hasn't revealed the extent of the operation, or what's happening right now.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+84While we're on the subject, I'll throw out a link to this great interview with Beau Abbott, former pilot for the DEA, which should be required viewing for every US citizen:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=US+Governm ...
This man ran cocaine and weapons throughout North, Central and South America for the CIA, and had his life ruined through the justice system when he started making waves. Just a picture of the well-entrenched criminal element in our own government.- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10very interesting
- 2reflective, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32There is also a great clip on YouTube of Mike Ruppert, a former LA narcotics officer, who confronts a CIA director with hard evidence.
I'm sure many in the CIA have no idea this is going on, but there is undoubtedly a criminal gang at the top who use the profits from importing drugs to fund their own black ops and pet projects.- ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I am sure everyone in the CIA knows that their official budget is supplemented with drug money, and all kinds of illegal money.
The CIA is the largest organization in charge of recycling drug money into Wall Street, the US economy, and the pockets of many people, like H.W. Bush.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I am sure everyone in the CIA knows that their official budget is supplemented with drug money, and all kinds of illegal money.
- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25"I think we've got a government of criminals."
- Beau Abbott
"Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges."
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."
- Cornelius Tacitus - (55-117 A.D.) - ISIfunded911, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5A lot of stuff in emule too, like these videos: Mike.Ruppert-CIA.and.Drug.Running ; cbc.the.passionate.eye.the.cias.secret.war ; BBC_CIA_Mystery_flights ; cia.and.the.nazis ; The Cia And Drugs ; CIA's secret experiments on humans ; Discovery-CIASecretsPassingSecrets ; Code Name Artichoke - The Cia's Secret Experiments On Humans ; Target Nicaragua (1983, CIA meddling doc) ; CIA & MK Ultra History - The american LSD & Pcp testing for Mass Mind Control ; The.CIA.and.Pedophile.Trafficking.in.Children (by a former head of the FBI in Los Angeles) ; Crack The CIA ; ricky_ross CIA drugs gary webb ; Secrets of the CIA ; ...
Anyway, just do a search for CIA in emule! More fascinating than the latest movies.
- soniyashrma, on 10/10/2007, -21/+2You really have to wonder this site
- freecon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I really wonder about fox, cnn, abc, nbc . . .
- varun1s, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2I have to agree. The site is sketchy.
- digits12, on 10/10/2007, -0/+30There has been a growing perception expressed in the Mexican press that the owners of both of the American-registered drug plane’s seem to enjoy an apparent immunity from prosecution
- clearchoice, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0vist clearchoiceconsults dot com ccc clear choice consults
- SeethisPass, on 10/10/2007, -1/+77What does the CIA do that is good? I forget.
- psyjoniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32smuggle drugs. they are good at that.
- rebrane, on 10/10/2007, -13/+10They protect us from terrorism. Now be quiet, or else you might be a victim.
- lunasunshine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3guess you shoulda included "/sarcasm"
i thought it was obvious :)
- lunasunshine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3guess you shoulda included "/sarcasm"
- 1337Einstein, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Can be used very effectively as a number of distinct plot devices in works of fiction.
- petewiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Well, they overthrow elected leaders in foreign countries (Iran, Guatemala, Chile, etc.) and replace them with cruel dictators (The Shah of Iran, Pinochet, etc.). They also fund and train "freedom fighters" (or terrorists, depending on who you ask) like the Contras and the Mujahideen (aka those militant Muslims that are really pissed at us). This might seem pretty bad, but hey, either you love freedom or you are with the terrorists.
- KillaJazzBass, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Without naming names, the CIA put me through school, got me a car, food on the table, ask old man for a 20 (going to the movies) but really buying some pot. Its a vicious cycle but that money gave me an excellent childhood at the publics expence. But hey, im honest. (now my old man is a top tier dude in an unspecified agency) mwahaha, all was true, bow to me or you dissapear.
Anecdote, some kid pulled a gun on my younger brother, he was from pakistan, next time he flies home he will find out hes on a Terrorist Watch list. :-) (my suggestion)- JanYpe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5You are so full of ***** it's coming out of your ears.
- ortucis, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3Can we just rename World News section to 'US News' section already?
- dukeeeey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+58Everyone knows the CIA smuggles drugs, they have been doing it for literally decades now, and have been caught in the past doing it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair#Dr ...- Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17They do a lot more than smuggle drugs.
http://digg.com/world_news/A_Timeline_of_CIA_Atroc ... - lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Yup, that's why there's a "war on drugs". If drugs were legal the CIA would have to find another way to finance all the operations that are not approved by the gov't.
- adooga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Why do you keep them?
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Exactly, if they werent trafficking drugs how would they ensure the perpetual deaths of poor blacks and others in poverty? how will they ensure that gang wars continue? how will they keep the prison industrial complex filled with crack abusers (who serve much longer sentences than a cocaine charge)?
- floatingpoints, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Literally decades? What other lengths can a decade be?
- lunasunshine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Do you know what the term literally means?
- Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17They do a lot more than smuggle drugs.
- tauntz, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4I think that our foreign policy effects the situation.
- escheriv, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Now that's original. ( http://www.xkcd.com )
- dorkino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Solid work, Sherlock
- kaelyiesta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That immediately popped into my mind as well. I might as well throw him a bone though...
"You mean affected".
- escheriv, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Now that's original. ( http://www.xkcd.com )
- Dogtanian, on 10/10/2007, -19/+7Has anyone actually tried reading the article, it's ridiculous! Honestly, it's just embarrassing.
From the "ghost" company's website:
"we are in this business over 20 years, attending South, North and Central america, with outstanding service, we are today most trusted company in this market. our customer loyality make us different."
Boy, I don't know about anyone else but that sure sounds like the work of the CIA to me. Sloppy tradecraft? More like sloppy journalism.- lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Unfortunately, mainstream media won't go near this stuff. Way too dangerous, or maybe just too much complacency in mainstream journalism today.
- Groovemaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Hint:
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - William Colby, former CIA director
- Groovemaster, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Hint:
- varun1s, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Looks like they mod 'down' here for showing skepticism.
- lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Unfortunately, mainstream media won't go near this stuff. Way too dangerous, or maybe just too much complacency in mainstream journalism today.
- Kokichi, on 10/10/2007, -30/+9More "the government is evil, viva la resistance!" crap? Gosh, digg is slowly turning into a swamp for conspiracy theorists.
- rupprupp29, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU TO THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
... or something like that - Cyberen, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19I'm sure the Iran-Contra scandal was crap too, according to you.
- Tweekster, on 10/10/2007, -5/+0You were probably 5 when that scandal hit
- CaymanCarpediem, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15When they have been caught doing it in the past (and subsequently admitted it), it doesn't take much of a conspiracy theorist to think maybe they are doing it again (or still doing it) when evidence arises which at least raises suspicions that they are.
Seems it would take more a "head in the sand" type to just assume "NO WAY!!! NOT MY GOVERNMENT!!! LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!! I CANNOT HEAR YOU!!!" - lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Hey Kikichi, just keep that head buried in the sand. That's the best way to get at the truth. /sarc off.
- Tweekster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1God forbid someone demands actual evidence and not just scribblings on a website.
- rupprupp29, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1However, if there is no evidence it means that the conspiracy theory is still true, but the government destroyed EVERY piece of evidence.
That's pretty sound logic, right?
- rupprupp29, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1However, if there is no evidence it means that the conspiracy theory is still true, but the government destroyed EVERY piece of evidence.
- Tweekster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1God forbid someone demands actual evidence and not just scribblings on a website.
- yojiffyskippy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4I agree, there are a lot of conspiracy wackos on Digg. Occasionally their theories turn out to be true but most of them are just crazy.
- Tweekster, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0Even a broken clock is right twice a day
- varun1s, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Intelligent diggers will believe any theory, even when its bad, as long as it "exposes the big bad govt."
- JanYpe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Intelligent diggers?
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Not like those smart dumb diggers... wait, what?
- rupprupp29, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3BUT THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU TO THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
- scott2007, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10I don't understand from the article how any definitive link has been established between these planes and the CIA. Drug cartels can't pull this off as well?
- adooga, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Yep, if the drug cartel can land at Guantanamo, sure.
- delgotit99, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Scott stop making sense, this is digg.
- ryodoan, on 10/10/2007, -17/+5When it takes over 4 pages to try and establish a connection I resort to occam's razor (the simplest explanation is probably true).
Yes, the CIA could be smuggling drugs, but at the same time drug companies use fake fronts for drug operations all the time and if it was the CIA smuggling the drugs it seems more plausible to me that they would be involved trying to catch the drug dealers.- digsig, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Is that the agency's intended purpose, though? I thought that's why the dea is for.
- Memitim, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I don't think that Occam's Razor applies when dealing with groups that intentionally work toward subterfuge.
- crapmatic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It is the first requirement of a theory that it works, that its predictions are correct and it has not been falsified. Occam's razor is used to discriminate between theories that have already passed these tests, not to select the best one in advance.
- Onso, on 10/10/2007, -19/+2CAUSE CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL YO
- digsig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25There is no hard evidence. But, according to the article, that's because there have been so many transactions with the plane in just 2 weeks after the crash. Also, they have a good point in that this plane landed in Guantanamo. I don't know how they could do that without having permission from the US government/army.
- wiggles, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Just speculation, but they could have been forced there for inspection by the air force, and if they were empty, they would be allowed to proceed to wherever they were going...
- harksaw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"Increasing suspicion even more was the suggestion, in a report of a committee of the European Parliament, that in addition to having been used in drug trafficking the Gulfstream II had flown CIA rendition flights to Guantanamo."
Does anyone know where I can see this report from this committee that shows the plane flew to Guantanamo? That's really the only thing resembling evidence of US government involvement, and it's not linked or even very specific which report they're reading.- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Here's another source on the story about the plane that recently crashed in Mexico with four tons of cocaine on board, with links to Guantanamo rendition flights:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/20060.ht ...
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Here's another source on the story about the plane that recently crashed in Mexico with four tons of cocaine on board, with links to Guantanamo rendition flights:
- spawnfree, on 10/21/2007, -7/+28watch the documentary about the alleged US coup in Venezuela.
the first day of the coup saw any protest being violently quelled by police, something not seen under Chavez at all.
The US administration is a brutal dictatorship hiding behind a well maintained veil of lies.
I'm just glad that they did not succeed in Venezuela. There is more at work in this world than the will of evil.
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/9/4678- Abomonog, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19What makes me laugh is how the coup ended. The U.S. military run out on a rail by farmers. PRICELESS!
Chavez is an awfully nice guy for a "ruthless dictator". It must be rough paying 17 cents per gallon for gas. I loved it when Chavez announced to the world that it really only costs about 16 cents per gallon to refine gasoline. And that free heating oil thing that he did for poor Americans the other year. Honestly, if Chavez is a dictator then we need to find more dictators like him. He's done a few dictator-like things (Don't rag on him or you might get fined), but not even American leaders have shown as much care as he does for his people. Dirt cheap gas from his own gas company (Citgo), free medical, guaranteed employment for anyone who will work. Gee, I wish some dictator would force those on me.- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9So you'd trade your civil liberties for cheap gas? Yeah, Chavez is a real nice guy unless you happen to disagree with any of his ideas.
- offspring06, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4What about Bush? He can be a nice guy until you disagree with his ideas.
- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Certainly, but we still have freedom of speech, freedom of the press. We don't have prisons full of American political prisoners (Gitmo's another story). So certainly I wouldn't argue Bush is a great guy, thankfully we have a Constitution and hopefully we can get back to using it.
- Cutkomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Just let the people of Venezuela straighten it out if he's a bad dude, not us. It's not our business.
- offspring06, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4What about Bush? He can be a nice guy until you disagree with his ideas.
- quaxon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Don't rag on him or you might get fined"
Actually freedom of expression is allowed in his country and he invites all his opponents to express their views. In fact the instance im assuming you are referencing (revoking the license of a media channel), he only shut them down because for years that channel (which is controlled by corporations that have a huge interest in Venezuela's resources), for years, had been calling for Chavez's assassination and overthrow. The fact that he allowed them to operate for so long and only revoked their license speaks volumes. Imagine if CNN or MSNBC called for the assassination of Bush or Cheney every day they were on the air, in this country those responsible would be subject to the death penalty or life in prison if theyre lucky. Chavez's Venezuela is much more free and democratic for the citizens than we are here in America, where only the corporations enjoy true freedom.- floatingpoints, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Since when do you get the death penalty for making threats? o.O
- oldhick, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9So you'd trade your civil liberties for cheap gas? Yeah, Chavez is a real nice guy unless you happen to disagree with any of his ideas.
- Abomonog, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19What makes me laugh is how the coup ended. The U.S. military run out on a rail by farmers. PRICELESS!
- bigjimslade, on 10/10/2007, -24/+4Buried as leftist propaganda.
- Acewrap, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Above poster buried for being a closed minded contard *****.
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6does this mention anything about left wing politics or even right wing politics? this has NOTHING to do with bi-partisan politics. POlitics? it's a ***** plane ! that crashed withcoke in it IN MEXICO! Potentially it was CIA, you can't handle the actual content of the artical and just blame the left wing politics, you are scared of the truth or something or just have a hard on for left wing politics I don't know but you have no clue.
- chkdg8, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12No sloppy journalism. Just facts. Watch this 6 part video. The Secret Heartbeat of America.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-698848770 ... - ImTheChaz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4This article seems vague at best, but if it's true I am happy to see that we are now only smuggling drugs with the CIA planes instead of the usual. Kidnap > Guantanamo > Illegal Imprisonment > Torture > Oops Sorry > Release
- StarlessKnight, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You know your Country's doing something wrong when you can say, "Man, I'm glad our Intelligence Agencies are only running drugs instead of 'aggressively interrogating' innocent people now."
- apocalypse67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What are you talking about? They never say "sorry"!
- cuoops, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/cuoops/caps ...
- obliviousfool, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The headline doesn't actually look bad in all caps. It is a headline after all.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3This is the stupidest thing I have read on Digg in quite some time. There's no connection between this dummy company and the US government. Maybe, just maybe the company was set up by, gee I dunno, DRUG TRAFFICKERS.
- rebrane, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Then why did the plane fly to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba? Wrong turn on the way to the Bahamas?
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2...and the CIA are drug traffikers. Case closed.
- underdog5004, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14This is from the Donna Blue Airlines website: http://donnablueaircraft.com/
3375 Edison Way
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Phone: (415) 555-5555
Fax: (415) 555-5515
info@homestead.com
They didn't even bother replacing the phone numbers with real numbers!- rebrane, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7If you google for "3375 Edison Way" and "415 555 5555" you will find 29 other websites listing the same address and phone number. It's a template from Homestead.com.
- skews13, on 10/10/2007, -12/+2yeah,and iv'e got a bridge in alaska for sale.
- Classico, on 10/10/2007, -13/+5Remember Kids, no matter how much more you think your submission is better than the rest CAPS LOCK IS FARKING ANNOYING. Dugg down.
- dorkino, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You said a bad word
- Cutkomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How does it feel to be the 20th person to say that in the comment thread? You might be more annoying than the caps lock.
- Herostratus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30They make drugs illegal to have more control over us, violate our constitutional rights in the name of the war against drugs, and its them that ship the drugs in to begin with, and then as if that werent enough, they use all this to justify their existance. Will somebody please scream with me here.
- therightside, on 10/10/2007, -17/+2You are stupid. You fail at life.
- iTorrey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7These "You fail at life." comments just never get old. It really shows your intelligence and how you don't "fail at life".
- apocalypse67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7AAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
- crobathias, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I totally agree, if it weren't for the drug war, if drugs were legalized and commercialized, then many of the crime problems would go away. granted, there would be more people high on various things, but hey, its worth a try, right?
- therightside, on 10/10/2007, -17/+2You are stupid. You fail at life.
- Onyxblaze, on 10/10/2007, -21/+5TITLE WRITTEN IN CAPS EXPOSES YOUR IDIOCY!
- Cutkomp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Being the 21st person in the comment thread to say that makes you a bigger idiot than the title maker.
- anonimuso, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5Hey guys, and, i'm just throwing this out there...the CIA deals with secret undercover work sometimes right? Is it possible that the CIA is working in this capacity as part of their regular duties and not as part of some nefarious plan to take over the world? Drug cartels are often connected to regimes and governmental forces in many of the worst countries.
I don't know...that's the first thing that came to mind.- offspring06, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7The CIA's been involved in the drug trade for decades.
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7they are criminals and terrorists period a huge chunk of the stuff they claim to be policing they are reposnsible for.
- Cutkomp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6"Drug cartels are often connected to regimes and governmental forces in many of the worst countries."
Yeah, like the United States of America. I'm about as free as a Ferrari.
- seraph582, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Unfortunately, *everyone* has a price...
- scorchedearth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The CIA has been smuggling drugs for years. Read Michael Ruppert's work. He has some great material.
- talksick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ruppert is good as well as Michael Levine's The Thin White Line. it's an eye-opening read for sure.
- imusingtehdigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/10/25 ...
this wouldn't be the first time the CIA/US GOV has done this. there is a Congressional Report referenced in the above article (pg. 5) that confirms government involvement in running cocaine into the US.
while Nancy was appearing on TV to tell Arnold & Dudley to "Just Say No!", Ronnie was flying in tons of cocaine to the US.- heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Oh the irony of it all since all of Nancy's best mates in these "Just Say No! " ended up in drug rehab , so one could ask who was supplying whom in those heady days ?
- offspring06, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14I thought everyone knew the CIA were involved in the drug trade. I heard about this years ago and I'm Canadian. Drugs are illegal because it drives the prices up which means more profit for the CIA. Is it a coincidence that Afghanistan produces more opium under NATO control than they did under the Taliban?
- ottosgatos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24Cocaine Import Agency
- uknowwhoibe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Stellar.
- theNazz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The Afghanistan heroin boom is great for CIA black op project funding, has been for decades.
- Truzseeker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Many years ago I was looking through a National Geographic and long behold there was an article with a picture of the flight paths where drugs are delivered into Amerika by none other than the CIA. I believe that no one was awake then like now.
- HorizonTakeAll, on 10/10/2007, -8/+0I believe everything posted on the internets. Especially from "reliable" web outlets, such as madcowprod.com
- mikegem, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Funny - If you go to the site and pick the 'contact' tab, you get this:
3375 Edison Way
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Phone: (415) 555-5555
Fax: (415) 555-5515
info@homestead.com
Office Hours:
Monday - Friday 8:30AM to 5:30PM
It's about five minutes drive from me, maybe I'll drop by. Also, the text on the site was clearly written by someone for whom English is not their native tongue. The missing articles "the, a", etc. are common in Russians who've learned English.- ZPWeeks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Check further up the comment thread- the address is from a pre-built Homestead template. Whoever wrote it initially probably has nothing to do with the front company or CIA.
- suspectzero, on 10/10/2007, -3/+5enough is enough.it's time to take this country back.time to say no to a double standard,police state. wear is the revolution,its 2007; we have the internet,there is no reason we cant form a unified front against the repressors.
if any one is serious about living in a free world send me a message,we can do it
all it takes is a spark,and we can burn this ***** down.- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4a unified front would not work, never do in revolutions...it's all about decentralised resistance, subversion, public awareness
- suspectzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i only mean unified, In the sense that we all do are parts.be it gurillas or just sitting down with your kids and telling them your sorry for lying to them,but it takes $100mil to be president.and not to worry your trying to change that.
- diemonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2lol, if that doesn't get you put on a watch list, then I don't know what will.
- Cutkomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you use the Internets you are already on a watch list. Convo like that will just get you on a watch-closer list. We are talking about the CIA though. Folks who make comments like that get recruited not arrested. Ole Chow Yun Fat or whatever his name was from V. Tech was just a useful idiot. They find crazy people then make them even crazier till they snap and then make a public spectacle out of it so that they can install more control over the population. Order from chaos.
- suspectzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1are you referring to the "ultrasonics"
i'm not totally sold on the idea that the government uses sonic weapons to mess with citizens minds. But i don't doubt they have them,not after mkultra.
- suspectzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1are you referring to the "ultrasonics"
- Cutkomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If you use the Internets you are already on a watch list. Convo like that will just get you on a watch-closer list. We are talking about the CIA though. Folks who make comments like that get recruited not arrested. Ole Chow Yun Fat or whatever his name was from V. Tech was just a useful idiot. They find crazy people then make them even crazier till they snap and then make a public spectacle out of it so that they can install more control over the population. Order from chaos.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Show me your intricate plan for making sure we end up with something better than what we have now... Humans are corruptible, so no matter what system you try to install, this kind of abuse is still going to take place. I'd say it's better to deal with this issue by working in the system, by organizing ourselves to elect officials who will do something to address our concerns...
- suspectzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1we would keep the basic layout,but get rid of the electoral collage,we would have 4 levels
federal,state,local,and personal.the new personal government would be the people.each household would have a evolving voting system in there home. And would vote on issues that would effect them. each voting session would start with a test to make sure you were up on the issues. And if you vote the government would would reimburse you in the form of a id
card that got you huge discounts on energy,food,and other key goods and services.
thats just the start.
the majority of the federal spending would be on education and technology.all military spending would be on defensive weapons,researching nano partial shields, and the likes.
and if all went right after 100-150 years your grandkids could live in a utopia.
- suspectzero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1we would keep the basic layout,but get rid of the electoral collage,we would have 4 levels
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4a unified front would not work, never do in revolutions...it's all about decentralised resistance, subversion, public awareness
- atown44, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1LOUD NOISES!
- brianzero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Look at all that bagged cocaine at the crash site:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviat ... - danarama, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1WHY TEH ***** IS THIS COMMENT WRITTEN IN CAPS?
- brianzero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I think the writer is a little confused. A DC9 is not a Gulfstream II.
- clytle374, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There was a DC9 and Gulfstream II. Separate instances similar situations
- theelectricafro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3According to the UN's website, Iran stops over 70% of the worlds illegal/illicit narcotics. So if we have been enabling the bumper opium crops in Afghanistan then that alone would be pretty good motive to take out the guys stopping the shipments.
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3because Iran is hindering the CIA's drug business we should bomb them? Sounds good to me Mr Gambino.
- diemonkey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3do you have a link? I'm curious on how they can stop 70% of "the worlds" drugs. Wouldn't the the drugs have to travel through Iran for them to stop it? or?
- pennvneff, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Like the CIA didn't do this before, they used call the company Air America. Exporting drugs into the country to finance their operations around the world has been the norm for the CIA for decades now.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2You should see next door to me at work, East DataCom, if you take the EDC out of the name, it has been known to stand for Evil Devil CIA. This company is also in the same state as the state's capital, giving direct links to government. If you go there at noon it is locked until 12:30 to 1ish! What are they doing? Who knows but I'm pretty sure it is the FBI illicitly using the CIA as a front for spreading AIDS in Asia to keep the American sout poor so that they keep voting republican. FK'n A, I'm ready, give me a website, give me some diggers to post this ***** and believe it.
- anonimuso, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for there crimes, eh comrade?
forking loser.
- anonimuso, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for there crimes, eh comrade?
- morgino, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Donate to Ron Pauls campaign...this wouldn't happen if he wer president because there would be no CIA
- manbergur, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2that makes me happy and terribly frightened at the same time
- wakananda, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sort of like a child in a family with an abusive father, wherein the ultimate taboo is speaking the truth about the abuse. There's a giddy euphoria at the prospect of being released from the cognitive dissonance created by the contrast between the family's "perfect" self-image and the ugly truth that can never be spoken. But then again, our sense of identity and security are tied to the protective image of the father, who uses this natural bond to exploit and intimidate the family he should be caring for, as a good shepard.
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Done and done!
- manbergur, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2that makes me happy and terribly frightened at the same time
- burritopilot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Whats really interesting is if you do a document index search on the faa website based on the aircrafts tail number. You get these other associations. More CIA fronts?
Aircraft 987SA CEF FUNDING LLC
Aircraft 987SA DONNA BLUE AIRCRAFT INC
Aircraft 987SA EDISON ASSET SECURITIZATION LLC
Aircraft 987SA GENERAL ELECTRIC CAPITAL CORP
Aircraft 987SA S/A HOLDINGS LLC
Also check out flightaware.com and view the past flights for this aircraft (Free registration required) Lots of interesting destinations..including one in Haiti with no listed return trip.- jlockemeadows, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Those are the securitization/underwriting funds with which S/A Holdings had the plane insured.
None of this was done when the plane was flipped Aug 30 and Sep 16...
See:
http://digg.com/world_news/Geopolitics_of_Drugs_Na ...
For more details. I interviewed Hopsicker for the story.
- jlockemeadows, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Those are the securitization/underwriting funds with which S/A Holdings had the plane insured.
- stealthduke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1WHOIS - donnablueaircraft.com
This exposes a much different contact address. Anyone care to visit them? - wiimaniacs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Caps are cruise control for cool
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