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- Rockmaninoff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+210I'm actually at Virginia Tech right now. The article summarizes all the stuff that's happened...I don't really know what's going on as I've been in my dorm the entire time. Apparently there were two students (one reportedly dead) shot at West Ambler-Johnson dormitory, and apparently now (from watching the news) a professor was shot at Norris Hall, an academic building. None of this is confirmed, but everybody's being urged to stay indoors and away from windows. They just showed a live picture of the Drill Field, and it's completely deserted. Hopefully they catch this guy soon.
- sbgunn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+147Despite the fact that the VT student linked to the university's webpage, I think diggers should stay off it unless they have a real reason to look. No need to digg effect a means of communication for those involved in this calamity.
- Salva, on 10/12/2007, -1/+130*UPDATE*
THE SHOOTER IS NOW DEAD. We do not know if it is self-inflicted or if he was shot by the police.
20 Confirmed dead. 28 Injuries, 3 are now stable! Good luck to all! - whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+80So weird. My freshman year at VT I watch Columbine happen in my home state of CO. Now I'm back in CO, only miles away from Columbine and I'm watching this unfold at VT.
- YoungMaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+69Best of wishes to yourself and everyone on campus. I hope they get the guy soon and end this ordeal that you and your classmates are going through.
- TheVtHokie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55There are also cops driving around the area blasting a warning like "This is an emergency, stay in doors, this is an emergency". This is pretty freaky, reminds me of the shooting in August.
- vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -5/+56update....20 killed. What a mess.
- bumfish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+48hey guys, I'm from the uk and I just want to say that I feel for you guys at this terrible time
- tpodr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+52Sorry, but I am sure VaTech is the only University in America with a Chemistry department.
- vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -21/+63@quokkapox
Go off yourself. - zeous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+41Stay safe man....
- Rockmaninoff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41Sorry for the comment abuse, but according to the website (www.vt.edu and it's being slow) they've got one shooter in custody and as part of routine investigation, are searching for a second.
- TheVtHokie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+38Just got an email from the university:
In addition to an earlier shooting today in West Ambler Johnston, there has been a multiple shooting with multiple victims in Norris Hall.
Police and EMS are on the scene.
Police have one shooter in custody and as part of routine police procedure, they continue to search for a second shooter.
All people in university buildings are required to stay inside until further notice.
All entrances to campus are closed. - zoto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+33I'm in Torgeson hall, heres the view out the window: http://zotoinc.com/view_from_torg.jpg
Its pretty calm in here, everyone is just looking for news updates and keeping their heads down. - hypoh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32News just said 20 dead! My roomate said he heard 29 dead from the police scanner.
- blackbelt88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28This is scary. I don't even know what to say right now. This is the worst day of my college career.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31What the hell ever happened to suicide for ***** up people? What made these defective numbskulls start shooting at other people?College is the land of make believe. It isn't even the real world. What were these flaming psycho moron retards going to do when they got out into the world of real stresses and adult pressure. And why kill college and high school kids? Why do we need terrorists to fear when we already have ***** up american kids to play the role?
- RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26Tighter restrictions on guns? VT already completely banned them from campus. You can't get tighter than that.
- McTendo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23I agree. Your Northern neighbour's (Canadian's) hearts go out to all the families as well. This should not happen to anyone, anywhere.
- resta6, on 01/12/2009, -1/+24update from someone on campus:
"Okay, I'm on campus: here's an update
7:15, a shooting at West AJ (a co ed dorm) over a relationship (boyfriend and girlfriend problems). The shooter shot the girlfriend, and then shot dead the RA on the floor.
9:45 roughly, the next shooting occurred. One man shot over 50 people, 32 which are now confirmed dead. I was stuck inside McBryde, the building adjacent to Norris hall where the shooting was. I watched as lifeless bodies were carried out of Norris, and other who were shot in arms, legs, and chest were evacuated.
This is all hell serious. However, it is not known if the shooter is a student here at Tech...
But yeah, that's about all I know... I'm not leaving this dorm until they tell me it's safe, and a little more than that.
I'm scared *****... I've never seen something so scary in my life." - stev31h, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25***** u finalnightz, i'm a student here and everyone here is suffering losses. crack jokes on some other ***** comment board
- pjisback, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29CNN says 20 fatalities right now... jesus christ.
- directedition, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23I'm not sure stricter gun laws would have done much. If you're hell bent on killing innocent people to this horrifying extent, you're going to get one either way. I wonder if concealed weapons licenses would have allowed at least one good Samaritan to end his massacre before so many were killed. I don't know what the gun laws in Virginia are like, so it's just speculation.
Hopes and best wishes to the families of the deceased and those who have been wounded in this tragedy. - kai05yang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21Statement by President Charles W. Steger
Shooting at Virginia Tech / Statement by President Charles W. Steger
The university was struck today with a tragedy of monumental proportions. There were two shootings on campus. In each case, there were fatalities. The university is shocked and horrified that this would befall our campus. I want to extend my deepest, sincerest and most profound sympathies to the families of these victims which include students There are 22 confirmed deaths.
We currently are in the process of notifying families of victims. The Virginia Tech Police are being assisted by numerous other jurisdictions. Crime scenes are being investigated by the FBI, University Police, and State Police. We continue to work to identify the victims impacted by this tragedy. I cannot begin to covey my own personal sense of loss over this senselessness of such an incomprehensible and heinous act The university will immediately set up counseling centers. So far centers have been identified in Ambler Johnson and the Cook Counseling Center to work with our campus community and families.
Here are some of the facts we know:
At about 7:15 a.m. this morning a 911 call came to the University Police Department concerning an event in West Amber Johnston Hall. There were multiple shooting victims. While in the process of investigating, about two hours later the university received reports of a shooting in Norris Hall. The police immediately responded. Victims have been transported to various hospitals in the immediate area in the region to receive emergency treatment.
We will proceed to contact the families of victims as identities are available.
All classes are cancelled and the university is closed for the remainder for the today. The university will open tomorrow at 8 a.m. but classes will be cancelled on Tuesday. The police are currently staging the release of people from campus buildings.
Families wishing to reunite with the students are suggested to meet at the Inn at Virginia Tech. We are making plans for a convocation tomorrow (Tuesday) at noon at Cassell Coliseum for the university community to come together to begin to deal with the tragedy. - EricAnderton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20I'm absolutely floored at all this.
I attended VT from 1996-1999. I still can't remember a cooler, more laid-back and friendly place than that campus. Sure people had their moments, but that was usually linked to too much alcohol at house parties. Even the sillyness that goes on at Pritchard was the stuff of rumor and legend, but it was anything but violent and deadly.
But this... this just takes all - I can't imagine what it would take for someone to do something so horrible.
To those reading this thread that are at VT coping with this right now: don't loose hope. My prayers and sympathies are with you all. - CapeKid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20The number is at 22 confirmed dead. The shooter is dead as well.
Even here at University of Virginia we send our condolences to Virginia Tech. No dumb rivalry takes precedence over grieving for the lost. I hope that rest of the injured survive the ordeal. Such a tragedy. - ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Sorry for comment abuse, but here is the Student-recorded video from a VA Tech student. You can hear some gunshots.
Pretty scary.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1802522422474820322 - washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I'm suddenly reminded of an incident when I went to Virginia Tech (grad 1998). VT had a "no guns" policy in effect, but the person living in the dorm room across the hall from mine (Newman Hall) had in his room an illegally-modified semi-automatic AK-47, .22 caliber rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.
He was an ROTC dropout. Seemed kinda normal. Very gun-obsessed. One day out of the blue he took the .22 over to my room and leveled the muzzle point-blank at the side of my head with his finger on the trigger. He said it was loaded... I never new for sure. He tried to assess my reaction -- I remained calm and very cooly stated for him to lower the gun. He chuckled and lowered the gun and put it away.
There was only a month or so left before the end of the semester. I never reported him for fear of retaliation. - maggiesue0303, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23The sadest part about this entire forum is the number of people who are turning this massive tragedy into a political bitch-fest ALREADY!!!!! My god...the number of people dead keeps growing and all som of you want to comment on is "they need guns!" or "You idiot , no they don't!" Give this a break and let it be what it is!!! A MAJOR TRAGEDY!!!!!
- justinbaker, on 10/12/2007, -21/+40the gun ban Didn't stop the criminal from bringing his gun. Did it? It only prevented the disarmed from fighting back and stopping the killer.
Of course, this point falls completely on the deaf ears of the gun grabbers! Watch for the media to blame the gun, and not the scumbag that used it to kill innocents!
Too bad that law abiding, good people have to die because of stupid people with misguided intentions.
May the dead rest in peace! - flashboy131, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21Jesus Christ, so sorry VT.
- u2wedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19University Advisory:
Shootings on campus; classes canceled; gunman deceased
04/16/2007, Updated 12:40 p.m.
Two shootings on campus today have left 22 confirmed dead, including students.
Families wishing to reunite with students are suggested to meet at the Inn at Virginia Tech. The university is planning a convocation for tomorrow at noon at Cassell Coliseum for the university community to come together to begin to deal with the tragedy.
Counseling is available in the Bowman Room in the Merriman Center (part of the athletic complex) for employees who seek assistance following today’s events.
All faculty and staff have been released and asked to go home effective immediately.
Virginia Tech has closed today. The university will open tomorrow at 8 a.m. but classes are cancelled.
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what is WRONG with people? 22 lives snuffed out for no other reason than an individual's lack of self esteem and mental balance. - wspnut, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18From an RA who was in the Norris classroom: "[we] heard gun shots next door and people screaming so people started jumping out of the window, about fifteen more people jumped out and jake was the last one go go cuz when he was on the ledge the guy got into their classroom"
"what ive heard about aj was that there was a boyfriend that came into the dorm and shot his girlfriend and then the ra tried to come and help and he shot her too, and the ra is the one ive heard that had died"
I just heard the last part on CNN as well.
I apologize for the comment spamming, if I could keep it all in one post I would. I will keep everything I post under this single thread, however. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19While I am a huge advocate of our right to bear arms, let's not play the blame game. The only one responsible for the deaths of over 32 innocent people is the shooter.
- wm2010russ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18***UPDATE***
(sorry for comment abuse)
ABCNEWS REPORT: 25 now dead, numbers expected to rise - cougar618, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1822 Dead now. including the gunman.
This is sad. I could never imagine something so horrible. - goaliemanpat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Easy to say when you don't have a gun pointed in your face
- drworthless, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18jesus christ at least 20 dead, including the gunmen. This is the darkest day in Virginia Tech history. I am speechless...
- kniwshmdcknit, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I'm very sorry. This is horrifying.
- litebox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Our deepest condolences from Mexico to all the families of the victims of this terrible tragedy.
- kelbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16I disagree. School shouldn't have to be a prison. This is a horrible situation, no question, but it is an isolated situation despite however frequent it may seem to you. The news does not report that you're safe. It only presents the situations that are unsafe, so it seems like it's all over but it's not. Don't succumb to fear.
Just because this is in recent memory(hell it's happening right now) doesn't mean there should be blankchecks on swapping freedom for security across the nation.
Patriot act, warrantless phonetapping, etc. etc. etc. Hell, I'm sure somebody will end up blaming videogames despite a large number of other factors in his life, for example, him being crazy.
Security can be given up to whatever extent, but it will never be guarenteed until you're dead. I could reach over and kill my co-worker right now, and there's no way to defend against that untli we all live in little boxes at home and telecommute. At some point, we have to accept that crazy lunatics are out there and that yes, there is a risk that death can come like it did today, but that doesn't mean we should live in fear. That's what any terrorist in any organization wants, they want you to live afraid.
Acknowledge the tragedy, and then live life to the fullest for those who no longer can. It wouldn't do to retreat into a shell instead. - justinbaker, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24the crazies are going to bring the guns to school no matter what the law is, but if i am able to bring mine (legally) then i can protect my self and the innocent bystanders, and the death total could have been much much less
- resta6, on 01/12/2009, -1/+17Maybe it was planned
1. Guy calls in bomb threats last week to gauge the response;
2. Guy shoots somebody at 7 am as a diversion, in a building far away from main target, drawing away any assets that may have been protecting his main target;
3. Guy attacks main target at 10 am. - justinbaker, on 10/12/2007, -14/+29all the gun bans do is prevent the good guys from bringing in the guns, but the badguys will still bring them knowing that no one else is going to have them. i have my CCW but ***** new mexico will not let me carry on campus,its all *****, i guarantee if student were allowed to carry guns, then the death total would only be a few
- PsypherX, on 10/12/2007, -10/+24While 420sniper could have been a bit more tactful, he does raise a very solid point. Criminals and those who wish to do harm have no respect for the law and will acquire guns by any means necessary. All these "violence prevention" policies do is take the means of defending oneself and one's friends and loved ones away from good, law-abiding people, like the many victims of today's events.
I won't go so far as to say VT is reaping what they've sown, however. What I will say is that if they allowed those who passed the stringent qualification process to attain a CCW to carry on campus, there might not have been quite so many fatalities.
A tragic loss any way you cut it. But your anti-gun ***** doesn't belong here, either. - brada33928, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14taken from a post on fark.com looks to be dialog from a chat session between two students (take it for what it's worth - do not know if it's true)
[15:38] a: i know 3 of the people that were killed so far....everything is just to unreal
[15:38] b: wow man, i am sorry
[15:38] b: were they seniors
[15:38] b: what have u heard has happened
[15:38] a: They were grad students
[15:38] b: damn man, again i am sorry, my thoughts and prayers are for them and their families and friends
[15:38] a: yea me to
[15:38] a: well a guy in my design group for land development. ( lee hixon is a grad student..) he lived
[15:38] a: he was in the room where the guy killed everyone
[15:38] a: the guy shot at him 4 times and missed
[15:39] a: he fell to the ground and played dead
[15:39] a: but he lived..
[15:39] a: he said some of the names to me who died...he said the whole class was killed except him and one other guy
[15:39] b: wow, what class was it?
[15:39] a: Graduate Class for Advanced Hydrology
[15:39] b: thats nuts man, i cant fathum what he was going through
[15:39] a: he is so shooken up
[15:39] a: when he called me, i thought he was joking
[15:39] a: he was so hysterical
[15:39] a: he said blood was everywhere and all over him
[15:39] a: he said bullet holes were all in the walls and desks...
[15:39] a: he said he thought he was dreaming
[15:39] a: he had bullets fly and miss him
[15:39] b: damn man, i dont know what to say, i just feel for everyone involed
[15:39] a: yea same here
[15:39] a: im glad you are ok though
[15:39] a: i just talked to eddie
[15:39] a: and he said him and walter are ok
[15:39] b: cool
[15:39] a: ok well im going to go for now...but i will talk to you later man...ill talk to you later if i hear anything else
[15:39] b: cool, later man - jete124, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15My question is why the hell didn't the cops in the video from CNN enter the building immediately? I mean you can literally hear the gunshots that were killing these students and the task force looked like they were just taking their time. Now I know they do have to plan, but this case called for immediate action and it wasn't taken. It's just sad that it seems we didn't learn anything from the Columbine shootings. My thoughts and prayers to with everyone affected by this tragedy.
- volholland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Jesus. My wife is a Hokie. Been on that beautiful campus. My deepest condolences VT. I don't know what else to say.......
- kai05yang, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21this is really a bad time to be selfish, hokies unite
- frodsteamin2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13sorry to hear this has happened...i feel for all involved and affected
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