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- anogenic, on 10/10/2007, -24/+433Osama is probably dead, US won't admit it because they will lose an excuse to fight their "war on terror", al qaeda wont admit it because they will no longer have their emblematic leader.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+206not to be a dick, but this seems pretty ***** obvious when you watch the video. there's no way the CIA and the media watched this and didn't think anything of it. i really hope this is not the original version of the video. anyone can take an old video of someone, pause it, say some recent stuff, and then play the rest of it. professional forensic video experts HAVE to be able to spot that.
- hiscity, on 10/10/2007, -12/+209It means that OBL is just a puppet now, much like Fidel Castro, which is no surprise.
If he were able, he'd be turning out interview videos often to stir up muslim and mid-east militants. - Gir9000, on 10/10/2007, -18/+176Iraq report coming out soon... better release another Osama video!
- hiscity, on 10/10/2007, -6/+144Imagine Max Headroom in an Osama beard and turban...
- ONELOVE23, on 10/10/2007, -10/+144Fake? Now you tell me. I converted to Islam yesterday. Do you think the Pastafarians will take me back?
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -10/+142Exactly. The real OBL actually had ***** to say.
From a post 9/11 interview: "the battle has moved to inside America" .. "I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed," .. "The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in general -- into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
(http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/31/gen.binladen.interview/) ... The real OBL knew we were all ***** long before many of us even realized us and even tried to tell us that.
It's also interesting to note another interview that he gave to a newspaper in pakistan (http://www.robert-fisk.com/usama_interview_ummat.htm) ... which is pretty dead on.
Also in special interest is the fact that in both of these interviews Osama denies any involvement in the 9/11 attacks. It would seem that if he really wanted to get some sort of jihad going that he would take responsibility for the attacks and try and get some support. RIGHT? this also fits very well with the fact that the FBI has stated that they have "no hard evidence linking OBL with the 9/11 attacks" and a look at his wanted poster will show the same thing. bush co. is the puppet master and he's having us chase boogeymen while he picks our pockets.
the propaganda machine would have us all believe "they hate us for our freedom" ... true, there are a lot of extremists out there, and if you listen to the real bin laden, in his letter to america (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,,845725,00.html) ... he tells us exactly what their beef with us is. (hint: it's not our freedom).
i really hope everyone takes some time to read the links above to pay attention to what the real bin laden has to say so we can all put things in perspective so that we can realize who the real enemy is. - Napoleone, on 10/10/2007, -7/+101Here's a picture taken several years ago of Bin Laden in the same garb and same setting, but with a different colored beard.
http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/1964.cfm
I can see how a regular Joe could miss this, but the entire MSM? God they suck. - ropers, on 10/10/2007, -5/+72Dugg for link to original Bin Laden video.
Every citizen should grow a pair of balls and assert the right to see and judge for themselves. - SAOSiN, on 10/10/2007, -4/+54then use the thumb if you feel that way!
- readme, on 10/10/2007, -9/+58I'm the furthest thing from a conspiracy theorist, but how hard would it be to create a 3D model of Bin Laden and texture map his face on it, then dump the 4k render on ***** VHS tape to cover up the flaws? They did it with Marlon Brando in Superman Returns. Seems like it would be super easy for the *a* government to do this (either ours or another power that could benefit from keeping OBL "alive").
- tybris, on 10/10/2007, -5/+44People seriously thought it was real?
- FreakyD, on 10/10/2007, -11/+49Dugg for digging
- norman619, on 10/10/2007, -22/+58Really? This may come as a shock to you but Osama and crew aren't the only game in town when it comes to terrorists. Plus the death of Osama changes nothing. His organization/group didn't die with him. They aren't centralized. they are decentralized as per the CIA training they recieved during their fight with the Russians.
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -4/+39i think they make these fake videos real horrible on purpose with tons of errors, so everyone that looks at it can spot all the obvious "what the ***** is that" moments .... because if they take the time to do a really good fake video and they slip up somewhere miniscule, then we all know for sure that it's a fake. if they make it so piss poor that we're all just like "what the hell", then maybe this gives them an edge. ... kinda like how the zapruder film was doctored, but it took years and some new tools to figure out some things.
it's also like bush not getting impeached.... he's done such a horrible job and ***** over the country so many times, it's hard to even pick a place to start. - InternetUser, on 10/10/2007, -3/+37hehe. Whether these conspiracies are true not, I find it so reassuring that "the people" are questioning, resourceful and communicating so crazy ***** like this has little effect. I feel pretty optimistic about the future :). I guess we have the internet to thank.
- renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -10/+43Dugg for pointing out reference
- creepysleepy, on 10/10/2007, -7/+39Who the hell is the Booman Tribune? Seriously? Anyone?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -16/+48Dugg for the Max Headroom reference.
- howea, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34What organization? ... Al Qaeda is an old CIA codeword for their sponsored training bases (Al Qaeda = "The Base" in Arabic) to deal with the Soviets in Afghanistan. Once the Soviets pulled out a whole lot of dis-enfranchised Islamic guerillas started to push their Ideologies elsewhere.
- kerrickter, on 10/10/2007, -3/+33http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-2259416342899056680
Above is a link to the full video. It's true, the video stops moving after a short while, and jumps around in a max headroom way when it does move. Total BS. - SuperSunny, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32Analyzed by independent experts? From what source? A converted copy found on YouTube, a ripped copy from TV, or the ACTUAL original VHS? Where are these independent experts that analyzed it from a real source? The original? There is too much that goes against this being real, including the timing on which it was shown. Nothing makes sense.
- fwedwic, on 10/10/2007, -6/+35dude, nice post =)
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30As a 3d graphics professional, I can tell you that what you described is a million times harder than dubbing a different voice over an old tape of UBL, and would never stand up to scrutiny.
- IslandDog, on 10/10/2007, -8/+33Just keep reading the comments.
- arsheroica, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27Yeah, it looks as though bin Laden's been using some "Just for Men" on that beard of his.
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -4/+27Al Qaeda is probably not a perfectly organized organization but mainly just an idea, a name all wannabe terrorists endorse.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+27"If you vote Osama, you get 72 virgins! Additional virgins for each time you vote!" see enclosed instructions for Diebold patch and key.
- o2pb, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25Exactly... which is why they didn't go to extreme measures to fake the actual speech, because exprts will know its fake. If you pause the video, and keep talking.... there is nothing for experts to figure out, since you are not creating any new visual information.
- Gerbil_Juice, on 10/10/2007, -2/+24Actually, all he really said is something that is a possibility and gave an explanation as to why we wouldn't know if he was right. He made no claims of facts.
- cptn_cardboard, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23Yeah, I'm pretty sure hes dead. This isn't official, but some reporters have said that he had Diabetes and Renal Failure, which causes him to be on a dialysis machine and take insulin shots or he'll die. That seems pretty hard to pull off when you're livin in a cave. Plus, there was a time when he was releasing video tapes, then all of a sudden he stopped, until now.
- orxor, on 10/10/2007, -11/+31No, Dick Cheney made the video.
- theright, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21It is also possible to analyze the audio track, bear in mind. There are people out there analyzing these videos who will know if audio has been dubbed in at a later date. There are people who know bin Laden's voice and speech patterns like the back of their hand, and will be able to tell in an instant if anything is amiss.
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Definitely a great post. Digg this person up. I feel the exact same way about this entire situation. This might be a little off as a response to such a great post above, but I think it's time that intellectuals stop playing the game of, "Those who are best to have power are those who don't wish to seek it." We as a nation need to study more, and understand people better, and see past propaganda. We can't just do it at home and in web blogs any more. We need to get into politics. Not to have the power for ourselves, but to spread the truth and acceptance of all beliefs (even those who disagree with us) across the nation.
- MonkeyHugger, on 10/10/2007, -36/+54How long till someone blames the american goverment and links the video to 9/11 conspiracies.
- erasedgod, on 10/10/2007, -6/+23Dugg because the almighty FSM told me to.
- XedLos, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Dont use "U.S." its the Bush administration the majority of the U.S. wants nothing to do wiht it
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18i work for the production company that forged this video, and i can tell you for certain that it's real
- thatsmyaibo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18He'd be a puppet if he wasn't dead. The guy had kidney problems 5 years ago, I highly doubt he has survived.
- MonkeyHugger, on 10/10/2007, -17/+33You blithering fool. Who knows who made it, if it's fake, it doesn't mean the US did it.
God some people are so stupid. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Take out the ")" at the end of the URL
- ptsd, on 10/10/2007, -12/+27this is so obviously a fake its sickening that the american media has fallen to this level.
- Alegoo92, on 10/10/2007, -10/+25I'm sorry to hear about how badly you feel the US treats you. I thought you were free to leave your house and capitalize on your own efforts.. but I guess I was wrong.
- shug7272, on 10/10/2007, -10/+25Comment buried as another ignorant uninformed, "everyone that disagrees with me are "wackos"" from a digg 12 year old.
- Terr01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Who, the League of Justice?
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14CNN was claiming Usama's beard was "photoshopped" the day this tape was released. Obviously there is something dubious about the video
. - TheWiseNoob, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20That kind of attitude is exactly why so many Arabs hate the USA. Learn to be a little more sympathetic you heartless bastard.
- clark24, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13"I work in the news" = Blogger with 10 hits per day ???
How about elaborating and posting the "real" video then? - jake8689, on 10/10/2007, -3/+16i figured this out when he looked ten years younger, who forged this, idiots
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15Osama... Obama.... OMFG!
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