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- stonecircle, on 06/11/2009, -14/+162Goes to show who McCain and Palin really are. They should be first to condemn such behavior; instead, they are encouraging it by the ads they are running which incite this type of conduct and their lack of action when this behavior occurs. Didn't we learn a lesson from Nazi Germany? We cannot allow this to continue. When civility and respect take a back seat to the fire of hate, we are opening a door that won't be easy to close. Shame on you, John McCain!
- NBGill, on 10/09/2008, -8/+134The issue is the degree to which these rallies are inciting hatred for personal political gain, ONLY, on the basis of charges that have no substantive merit. In other words, if charismatic leaders are rallying their "troops" around irrational hatred and racial vitriol, where does that lead?
It cannot help any kind of civic discourse. It also could lead to much worse, much darker places. Those with long views of history may recall prior examples of this type of rightwing demagoguery.
See the author William Shirer.
People of good conscience and good faith will need to be prepared to fight back, with weapons if necessary. Ridicule is a good weapon, but it may not suffice. The rightwing's limits are nowhere near in sight yet. Let us hope liberty and democracy mean something to them and that cooler heads than McCain's and wiser ones than Palin's will prevail. Let's talk sense into our neighbors and fellow countrymen. We must be prepared to die for America if necessary. - tcbishop12, on 10/09/2008, -17/+110Obama’s first book is valuable in the way that it reveals his fundamental attitudes of mind and spirit. “Dreams from My Father” is an illuminating memoir not only in the substance of Obama’s own peculiarly American story but also in the qualities he brings to the telling: a formidable intelligence, emotional empathy, self-reflection, balance, and a remarkable ability to see life and the world through the eyes of people very different from himself. Obama's life has been full of tests—personal, spiritual, racial, political—that bear on his preparation for great responsibility.
Obama is a man of rigorous honesty, impeccable character, compassion, authenticity and integrity.
In contrast, John McCain has become a pathetic, twisted shell of a man having no moral or ethical compass. Stooping to lynch mob mentality only confirms the fact that McCain's journey to the dark side - begun long ago -- is now complete.
Barry Yourgrau said it best: "There is a seething proto-violent ugliness that McCain and Palin are whipping up in their dead enders. Republican politicians with half a soul or brain left better tell McCain to shove the dark genie back in the bottle that is Steve Schmidt's catastrophic bullet head." - SheilaNoya, on 10/09/2008, -11/+92There are valid reasons for people to hate Bush.
- peheimbach, on 10/09/2008, -8/+89Once again we see the influence on the Right of Christian activist Randall Terry, who, 15 years ago "advocated hatred and intolerance as tools in achieving a Christian theocracy in the United States":
He was quoted in the Fort Wayne Indiana News-Sentinel on August 16, 1993:
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
Ah yes. At least we know where it started ... . And they're far more desperate in 2008 than the were in 1993, since each president they elect DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about abortion, other than make it worse.
What next -- "Onward Christian Soldiers, Marching as to War" at Palin/McCain rallies? Maybe the announcement that Randall Terry will be head of Health and Human Services under the Palin regime?
Sadly, all this shows is that the American Church is, by and large, neglecting two of its major duties:
(1) reducing the amount of poverty and social friction in the United States
(2) reducing the amoung of FEAR in all people -- or at least offering an alternative to fear.
Instead, they've supported the use of fear to maintain their own control and agenda. - MikeMitchell, on 10/10/2008, -8/+87It's sad when the media pounced on Palins daughter being pregnant, and Obama asked his supporters to knock it off...
but when some embarrassingly crazy Americans scream ***** like "Terrorist!" and "Kill him!" they just let the fire grow.
I say its time we start a new Australia, and McCain, Palin and all their insane supporters can go live together under McCain rule. - falser, on 10/10/2008, -6/+74The religious right scares the jesus out of me.
- BuckQJohnson, on 10/09/2008, -8/+73Everyone should be afraid of this type of rhetoric that is happening from the McCain and Palin rallies. Because they are trying to get the crowds frenzied up in hatred and suspicion and racial intolerance in order to get people to vote for them. But the fear should be that they may be inciting one or more people in the crowd or in the community to do something against Obama. They are throwing every hate filled vitrol at the crowd to make their "own judgement" on Obama. The problem is that they know what country they live in, this country has for centuries been a land of intolerance and hatred to people that didn't look or sound like the majority. So instead of fixing the problem, politicians over the years have used this and ignorant people for their benefit to keep themselves in power.
People always say it's being over sensitive to race or whatever when they hear something that is closely associated to a stereotype or racism or bigotry, but there not. It's the old game of you know and I know what he or she actually ment by a statement, but we play as we don't know. And thats because he or she may agree with these statements of hatred and bigotry and don't see it as wrong. Their not stupid the pundits and the likes, they just have a vested intrest in letting the "ignorant people" be the foot soldiers in a war of hatred. Inciting a crowd with hate filled inuendo and zingers without any substance, can lead to unstable people going out and doing the most horrible things.
I have always and still do think that you can't teach hate and expect groups of individuals and the like to not one day act out on that hate. - iphonejunkiexl, on 10/09/2008, -5/+63Because Bush has given people a lot of reasons to hate him. The attacks against him are justified and legitimate after what he and his party have done to this country. Listening to McCain supporters shout out racial epitaphs and bigotry is not only dangerous it is un-American. This is not about censorship or the media, this is about decency and respect. History shows that acceptance of this kind of language will lead down a very dangerous road. And to think McCain and Palin want to lecture us about character! Give me a break
- tsf5000, on 10/10/2008, -5/+61Why do republicans hate America?
- llamaspit, on 10/09/2008, -7/+63It's the responsibility of McCain/Palin to denounce this sort of thing and discourage it when it happens, not days later on TV when those people aren't watching. If Palin heard the shouts and did not discourage it, she is complicit in my opinion.
I believe in freedom of speech, of course, but I don't believe in allowing your fans, or encouraging your fans, to be racist and possibly do harm to another human being. Their silence, in this case, is the same as if they themselves said it. - Wryly, on 10/10/2008, -3/+54The uneducated are never low on hate.
- kingUssop, on 10/10/2008, -3/+47The Republican brand is being destroyed by these stupid people. It's wonderful.
- cadmiumpaint, on 10/10/2008, -8/+48McCain is a desperate, pathetic old man who is an embarrassment to anyone who calls themselves a war veteran or a U.S. Senator.
- thegrantman, on 10/10/2008, -4/+39Attempting to incite a riot is unlawful.
- groverblue, on 10/10/2008, -3/+36I'm not an Obama support, and I'm not going to vote for him, but the ***** that is happening at these Republican rallies is TOTALLY ***** UP. If they keep this unintelligent-off-topic-completely-distracting-from-the-real-problems ***** up, I'm gonna vote Obama just to give these crazy ***** a big ***** YOU.
Oh, and stop using conservative/liberal labels. It's so childish. Name some names you ***** coward. If you don't have names, then you are talking out of your ass. Classifications of people why we are in this mess - it personifies an ideology that can't possibly be held accountable. It's a stupid cycle that stupid people go round-and-round-and-round in.
- lsloany, on 10/10/2008, -2/+34Earlier this week Mrs. Palin held a rally in Lee County, where I live. Our Sheriff Mike Scott used Obama's full name as well, which I didn't find too offensive, it is his name but then he started with the name calling etc, etc. Which is fine except he was wearing his Sheriff's uniform, which I and many others felt was very unprofessional, unfortunately around this area the populous is very Right-Winged and even our local paper helped him defend his words. Pitiful.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -8/+38McCain wants to be president for himself, not the American people. He will say anything to get elected. Why are so many people buying it?
- 5xSTUN, on 10/10/2008, -2/+30"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining in. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic..."
- 5xSTUN, on 10/10/2008, -4/+31They're inducing fear in their constituency, and you know what Yoda says about that.
- Langford, on 10/10/2008, -4/+30Somehow I imagine this poison information-empty rhetoric tactic blowing up in their faces. How popular will it be when McCain's loudest endorsements are from the KKK? McCain is reaching a point where many people who supported him before will become embarrassed to imagine themselves having ever liked him.
- BinaryDelt, on 10/10/2008, -2/+28This is really getting absurd, and very dangerous. Debunk the lies!!!
http://www.2lincolns.com/2008/10/08/obama-ayers-on ...
Anyone who encourages or participates in this hate speech is creating a dangerous environment for someone who could be our president on January 20, 2009, and that is NOT putting "Country First". - Suzilla, on 10/10/2008, -1/+27That "messiah" label is something the right-wing attack machine cooked up and fed to folks like you. It's gotten so old I'm surprised anyone is still using it. Besides, it's not the man we support; it's the vision for America that he articulates. As he (notice the little "h", there?) said: What you don't get is that this election has never been about him, it's about US.
- LordRahl72, on 10/10/2008, -11/+36These people should be escorted out of the country with a nice good swift kick in the ass.
It is people like that and their hate that is the source of evil in this country. - mobling, on 10/10/2008, -1/+25Fear is manifesting itself in hatred now. John McCain and his gang of thugs have presented themselves in the lowest common denominator. You can not reduce them to any lower form than what they now display. Senator McCain is lost and wandering aimlessly. He is as a blind man striking out at anything he perceives as a danger. Good god, can you only begin to imagine if this man were to make it into the White House and have control of our military. Any person and I mean ANY Person can and will be rounded up as a threat to the country. Gitmo would house more and more American citizens branded as traitors. John McCain, Sarah Palin, and their cohorts represent a dark, a very dark time in the history of this country. I will not forget McCain's service and sacrifice to our country, nor will I forget how he has left his fellow veterans living out in the streets of America. I'll never forget my own father being turned away from the VA hospitals. My father served under three different flags defending this great country. If their is a afterlife and we are truly judged by a higher power, then I fear with the deepest intrepidation that their souls will be forfeit. That's if there is a God, but as they say about religion. "You know, you just never know." But it can't hurt.
- Aorawn, on 10/10/2008, -1/+25 The fact that this kind of ***** goes down at ANY political rally goes to show how far this country has come since the late 1800's.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -2/+25What choice do we "liberal diggers" have? 4 possibly 8 more years of Bush policies? Do you really think McCain/Palin will do anything better or different than this current administration?
- 22catches, on 10/10/2008, -0/+23Just please don't send them to the old Australia. We don't want them.
- eyepennies, on 10/10/2008, -7/+29Hehe logic and reasoning. Good one. I'm going to assume that both of you are trolling, as no one can be that utterly divorced from reality.
- parisinflames, on 10/10/2008, -7/+29they're the party of most backwoods racists i'm not surprised
- mjbk24, on 10/10/2008, -2/+23It's pretty pathetic that they cry foul when any QUESTIONS are even asked of Palin, but will support and encourage these kinda of things from their base. Shows you the kind of character the McCain admin. would have.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -6/+26Read some of Reverent Wright's sermons. He does not hate America, just the tyranny that has been committed by this country. If you believe that all America does is fair and just, then you must live under a rock. It's sad that Obama had to distance himself from his pastor because so many people want to live in denial about the pain and suffering our country has caused. Now I love America, but to say we have no blood on our hands and skeletons in our closets is just ignorant.
- citizenrobot, on 10/10/2008, -9/+28Man, you call a bitch a moosemonger a few times and they start screaming for your blood!
Listen whoores, we were just hazing your VP but you people are being serious. Yes, I said it, YOU PEOPLE - Shiftgood, on 10/10/2008, -2/+20because they're trying to incite an assassination.
- falser, on 10/10/2008, -3/+21They don't hate America, they hate Americans.
- IphtashuFitz, on 10/10/2008, -2/+20Nobody is embarrassed by Obama's middle name. But when it's spoken with a tone of voice meant to imply an association with muslim extremists/terrorists, as many hardcore conservatives do, then it's totally uncalled for. And if you have no idea what I'm talking about then you are an absolute idiot.
- vsujohn2, on 10/10/2008, -10/+28Why in the hell are you getting dugg down? Your first point is a little off, but the rest of what you say is spot on. What is wrong with digg?
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2008, -1/+18McCain voted for the redistribution of $850bn of your money to Wall Street. For the greater good. Who's the terrorist?
- crdrunkmonkey, on 10/10/2008, -4/+21I believe that McCain will do ANYTHING to be President. It's sad when someone running for the highest respected position of the world resorts to this. I'm glad to see that we have at least one presidential candidate with tact and class when it comes to these rallies and debates. And I'm sure who ever gets elected will use the same form of tact and class with the rest of the world leaders.
- inactive, on 10/10/2008, -1/+18Reminds me of those Hitler rallies where he's accusing the Jews of ruining Germany.
- supermanly, on 10/10/2008, -5/+22"It isn't hateful to have a wife who said for the first time she is proud of her country?"
Um, what does this have to do with hate? At the moment, many Americans are not proud of this country and the direction it's going in. This has absolutely nothing to do with hate.
"It isn't hateful to have a supporter who is a terrorist bomber?"
It's the result of a two-party system. You're gonna get the ultra-liberal nutjobs to the slightly left of center supporting Obama, and the ultra-conservative nutjobs to the slightly right of center supporting McCain. Ayers is just infamous. Everyone has their share of crazies.
"It isn't hateful to have a pastor who openly hates America?"
I don't know about you, but when I watched those clips, I didn't think Wright hated America. I thought he was just trying to dramatically express that he didn't like the state of the country. If we heard everything that all politicians pastors said, we'd hear a lot of crazy *****. Obama is a politician like any other, in ways both good and bad. - BrewmasterC, on 10/10/2008, -3/+19How about we Republicans that are irate the only grassroots candidates, Ron Paul and Huckabee, were shut out by the good old boys? Our state parties should start revolting and put up a Ron Paul/ Huckabee ticket to give them the finger. (Not endorsing Huck, just saying he was second in the amount of grassroots support)
- FrankDrebbin, on 10/10/2008, -4/+19His pastor
Served as a marine for six years and fought in Vietnam He probably knows a whole hell of a lot more about loving and defending America then you do. A few controversial statements does not mean he hates America.
William Ayers
Barely knew Barack and committed those crimes when Barack was 8.
You have no idea how Michelle feels about anything, nor are you in any position to claim what she said was hateful. Being critical of our nation does not mean you hate it. Constructively criticizing the actions of our nation is how a true patriot acts IMHO.
Barack has decried both the controversial words of his pastor and the detestible actions of William Ayers. No one is chanting hateful things as his rallies and I have never heard him suggest hate or violence.
Chanting "Terrorist" and "Treason" are hateful because they imply some kind of direct action. Particularly, they seem to imply vigilante violence. - mjbk24, on 10/10/2008, -2/+17So if you have a pastor who molests children, does that make you a molester too?
If you have a supporter who is a terrorist does that make you a terrorist? I'll bet some "terrorists" support McCain too. (think racists and other radicals.
I haven't been proud of my country in a long time either, but that doesn't make me full of hate, it makes me want something better, which i think is constructive
...by the way, the actual quote was, "What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It
is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in
my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because
Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And
I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just
not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people
who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made
me proud." - AJanitor, on 10/10/2008, -4/+19I totally agree with you, but please don't place all of the churches under this view. I'm a currently a seminary student and I can attest that there are plenty of future Christian leaders who are fed up with the way things are as well.
The American church in general has totally distorted the gospel of Jesus. They have totally ignored the call to take up the cry of the oppressed and the widow. They have ignored the call to trade swords for plowshares. The have ignored the call to love their enemy.
The church I go to has a great influence. We sing songs about resisting violence and helping the poor. We spend our time teaching kids after school and rebuilding houses. We confront topics such as racism and the danger of blindly affirming a political party when we should be opposing anything who doesn't care for the "least of these".
Listen, I know many of you don't believe in God. That's ok. I know many of you see what many Americans do in the name of God and wish they would all just leave. I can identify. However, there are still some of us who aren't as far from you as you think. In the same way you don't want people to blindly assume, please do the same for us.
"If they come for the innocent and do not step over our bodies than cursed be our religion." - mjbk24, on 10/10/2008, -0/+15Fear leads to hate and hate leads to suffering...
- tsf5000, on 10/10/2008, -0/+15You're an idiot.
- PacificChef, on 10/10/2008, -5/+19Insinuating that an innocent man is a terrorist
Terrorizing the populace with populist agendas
Atrocious behavior and words meant to upset
The balance of power to bring power to the ignorant.
This is what you get when you spit hate speech as rhetoric
Better get a better picture of the world Mrs. Palin.
Your policies are a failing and Police State
Isn’t my idea of freedom, what kind of message are you bringing?
Chorus:
[Fighting words: giving power to the ignorant
Pushing up the dominant reign of the government
Fighting words: You mouth ain’t protected
By the constitution instigating violence as a covenant
Fighting words: I’m looking deeper at your temperament
Crushing up your lexicon and seeing it as excrement
Fighting words: You mouth ain’t protected
By the constitution instigating violence as a covenant]
Bill O’Reilly, highly stylized Nazi propaganda techniques
Of interruption and rapture
That’s just a picture of one night’s episodes
Who’s to answer when blood’s spilled in name of hate
Sean Hannity, humanity’s void, a pandering droid
With no soul. Can it be true you hold the key to calamity
Its all Vanity, taking the lords name in vain
Blame everyone else for your murderous intent
[Chorus]
Rush Limbaugh, limping on to the stage
Cigar smoking mad villain with whole crew of slaves
Enraptured to lies and arrogant allegation
Alleging the truth can be trumped by emotions
Where’s the reason, Greek philosophical techniques
Don’t legitimize treason, don’t patronize me
***** yeah I’m a patriot, love to the land and people
Living in it. Don’t tell me I’m merely inncocent.
[chorus]
-Sayv1 10/09/08 - eyepennies, on 10/10/2008, -0/+14LMAO, fail.
- ender1984, on 10/10/2008, -1/+15Hmm... I could have sworn I've seen something similar to this before....
Oh, right, I remember.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate -
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