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Hallmark Introduces Gay Marriage Cards -Time To Boycott?

cbsnews.com — (AP) Most states don't recognize gay marriage - but now Hallmark does. The nation's largest greeting card company is rolling out same-sex wedding cards - featuring two tuxedos, overlapping hearts or intertwined flowers, with best wishes inside. -Next, Get Well Soon, Hope The HIV Doesn't Kill You

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  • rjwusa, on 08/22/2008, -10/+20Makes me want to run right out to buy a Big-Mac to eat while reading 'Gaymark' cards. Another formerly fine product that I'll stop buying.
    • ThoughtfulWi, on 08/22/2008, -12/+13Such a nasty little "christian."
      • rjwusa, on 08/22/2008, -13/+11Such a nasty little reprobate.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -12/+5Thoughtless, such a...............nasty........Thoughless-azz..........
      • dorsey47, on 08/22/2008, -2/+5judgement
    • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/22/2008, -6/+11Oh look, another Christian bigot. You see these people kids? In another 100 years they'll be extinct! Enjoy the laughs now because you won't have them later..
      • johnny2k, on 08/22/2008, -6/+9AT one time, I may have agreed with you, Sisphus. I had grown up Christian, but became a prodigal for many years, and didn't have Jesus really in my life until just a few years ago. However, I may not be exactly like other Christians that you may know, who may seem to be intolerant and un-loving with people who have lifestyles they don't agree with. And it should be the other way around; those are the exact people that need to be ministered to, and I'm not talking about cramming Christianity down their throats. No, I'm talking about truly loving people as Jesus would.

        Someday, pick up the Bible, and read the Gospels of Mark, Luke, John and Matthew. You'll find out that Jesus didn't run around smacking sinners over the head with a club. No, in fact, in many cases, he healed them. He loved them. You'll see that some people during His time chose to turn away from Him.... and they didn't seem to do so well. Judas hung himself.

        Don't use Christians to base your opinion of Christianity on. We're just people, just like everyone else. Please base your view of the Faith on the One Himself, Jesus Christ.

        I'll keep you in my prayers!
        John
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/22/2008, -4/+8johnny2k, While I appreciate your kind words and idealism I have to respectfully disagree. In my opinion, the people are the religion, what good does a book do if no one follows it? I think the Jesus from the Bible seemed to be a pretty nice guy, aside from some anti-fig tree moments. If someone met a man who behaved the way Jesus did then he would be committed. Would you agree?

        All that being said, I don't find any form of religion to be of my taste. If you can find me more evidence for the existence of a god then I have found against it, I would likely think more on the issue. However you would also have to find evidence not only that a god exists, but that it is Yahweh himself that exists..
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Lost......what a shame.
    • caddyshacker, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1***** you thoughtful and sisy. I'm no christian but I'm no butt ***** like you two. You're both a piece a ***** and deserve whatever you get. Hope you both die of aids, fagots.
  • tomwins, on 08/22/2008, -15/+13Grow up! Two people who love each other should have the right to marry without interference from the church or ignorance. They are not hurting you, they are helping to make a stronger, more stable society by having a stronger, more stable relationship. Most gay couples I know have a much better relationship than the straight people I know - certainly better than my parent's or any of my siblings relationships.
    • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -12/+7Hey TomLoses, Gay greeting cards oh I can see it now Clyde the Gay guy out to buy his guy Tomwins a Birthday card looks around sees the Village People!!!! oh oh I got to get it for Tomwins....oh oh oh!!!!!opens it up and their is a free HIV test included!!!! hey sounds great doesnt it? maybe some other cards can have K-Y jelly packets in it!!!!! HallMark stock has been dropping for a while they have closed many stores through out America desperate attempt to get sales from the Lowly 2% est Gay Community but wants to go ahead a lose the rest of the 98% crowd smart biz deal,the Ceo should be fired for this plunder, you can expect a lot of back lash against HallMark and it will be out of business if this is there real postion. American Greetings stock will go way up and they will not pander to the Gay Agenda.........
    • PappyPapillon, on 08/22/2008, -11/+7Oh boy, yet another sodomite to add to my ignore list. Digg sure does attract 'em.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -12/+7Pappy we will Dig em, track em, and Bury them, if they are unMoral and Anti-Family...........Christian Brothers and Sisters out here we need you to Dig us and Dug out the Haters of Families and Values
  • reland1, on 08/22/2008, -10/+16ThoughtfulWi ...Why would Christians be deemed "nasty" simply because we do not support the homosexual trends in our country? Just like you turn your back on Jesus, we refuse to participate in the gay-lesbian agenda. It is your absolute right to lay with a consenting man or a woman; it is my right to disassociate myself from that behavior. Just like it is your right to go to hell....it is my right to choose not to. I'm not suggesting that you are, or will, go to hell...I'm just sayin..you can if you want.
    • ThoughtfulWi, on 08/22/2008, -9/+17I think it was the vicious little HIV remark that led me to deem him nasty. And I could care less what you support or don't support.But when your support for your agenda stands in the way of the rights of gays and lesbians, then your religious opinions will need to take a back seat.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -15/+10Hey Thoughtless, maybe the Gay greeting card for the dead Gay guy can show a Aids test being postive? or a picture of a gay guy before and after 200ibs now 80lbs......maybe Gay people should be smart and not have anal sex or oral sex and then Aids can be stopped at least through the Gay Community???? oh oh oh......Gays having to be responisble when it comes to sex???? unheard of......HallMarkaGay will be out of Biz if this is their answer to get sales going.........
      • rjwusa, on 08/22/2008, -13/+13I'm not in Canada. I still enjoy freedom of speech. Don't want HIV and a whole host of STDs and parasites, abstain from risky sexual behavior. Last I heard, homosexuality is still considered risky behavior. The diseases caused by risky behavior is completely avoidable through a lifestyle choice. Sorry you don't like it, but it is the truth. Get over yourself hate monger. Oh, btw, instead of hurling insults, why not contribute to the discussion at hand? You're such a meanie! /said with a lisp and a flip of the wrist
      • Cate320, on 08/22/2008, -9/+15Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not a "risky behavior".

        The "risky behaviour" that leads to STDs is promiscuity, and promiscuous heterosexuals are just as much at risk.

        There is nothing inherently risky about being homosexual. In fact, if homosexuals get married, they are probably in a monogamous relationship, which would mean their risk is no more than any married heterosexual couple.
      • Nannybell, on 08/22/2008, -14/+9Cate,
        Homosexuality in general is a behavior that is known to be attended by problems with promiscuity and risky sexual behaviors, and is generally attended by psychiatric issues. Homosexuals as a group are not known for their monogamous tendencies. They have real problems in that area, far beyond heterosexuals. Yes, you can find some who do not fit that profile, but in general this is true. Your statement about their *probably* being in a monogamous relationship does not match reality. Male homosexuals in general do not have monogamous expectations of their partners, even in committed relationships. And your statement that there is nothing inherently risky about homosexuality is just silly and uninformed. If they do not act out on their homosexuality, then yes your statement would be true. But when they do act out on it, the riskiness begins.

      • Cate320, on 08/22/2008, -3/+11@Nannybell

        "And your statement that there is nothing inherently risky about homosexuality is just silly and uninformed. If they do not act out on their homosexuality, then yes your statement would be true. But when they do act out on it, the riskiness begins."

        That is ridiculous. The very same thing could be said of heterosexuals. Yes, "acting out" on your sexuality, puts you at risk for STDs. I never said it didn't.

        "Your statement about their *probably* being in a monogamous relationship does not match reality. Male homosexuals in general do not have monogamous expectations of their partners, even in committed relationships."

        You know this, how? Because the media says so?

        "Homosexuality in general is a behavior that is known to be attended by problems with promiscuity and risky sexual behaviors, and is generally attended by psychiatric issues."

        Let's just assume for a moment that you are correct about homosexuals in general being more promiscuous than heterosexuals. Is this really a reason not to support gay marriage? You know, the ones that actually *want* to be committed? Young people also tend to be far more promiscuous than older people. Should we raise the marriage age to 30? 40? There are also studies that show people from lower economic backgrounds tend to be more promiscuous. Should we not allow poor people to get married? What about people with past records of infidelity?

        Also, I'm aware that the rate of HIV/AIDs is disproportionately high among gay men. However, it is also disproportionately high among minorities. If you want to use their disease incidence as a reason to deprive them of rights, I suppose you'll also have to say that minorities cannot marry as well, *especially* interracial marriages!

        The rate of STDs is actually LOWER and the promiscuity rates LOWER among lesbians. Should *they* be allowed to be married? But just not men?
      • Evilena, on 08/23/2008, -4/+10"The rate of STDs is actually LOWER and the promiscuity rates LOWER among lesbians. Should *they* be allowed to be married? But just not men? "

        I have pointed that out to them 4 or 5 times now and they still conveniently forget it every time.
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -8/+3Cate, we can come up with all sorts of varying situations, but society does not actually have the luxury of doing that in reality. The fact is that the traditional family... a mother and father married to each other... has been demonstrated to be the situation that is best for children, produces the healthiest results for children longterm. Why would society be so SELF-DESTRUCTIVE as to intentionally seek what is not actually good for it just for the sake of granting some notion of *rights* to a particular group? This thing isn't just about *what makes me (anyone) happy.* We have that concept of rights these days, and I think it is thoroughly narcissistic. At the same time we are thinking about what makes an individual happy, we have to balance that with what is best for society as a whole. On the one hand, if it makes a homosexual couple happy to adopt a child, but if on the other hand such a situation is not what is actually best for that child, then WHY ARE WE DOING THAT?

        Homosexuals as a group have a much higher rate of promiscuity and STDs, and they have psychiatric issues. Homosexuals downplay those things and even deny them altogether. You may feel sorry for them and think they should be granted rights, but if I were you I would first investigate whether or not their claims about themselves are true.

        And no, I did not get the thing about monogamy from the media. Doctors say so. Homosexuals admit it. Monogamy isn't high on the list of important things for male homosexuals in general. They may feel committed to one another emotionally, but they don't mind if their partner *sleeps around.* I am sure you can find one who doesn't feel that way, but I am speaking in general terms.
      • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -4/+9Nanny, of course you're speaking in general terms. You're intellectually lazy and you rest on stereotypes as a crutch to keep you from doing any mental heavy lifting. "What's that you say? Not all gays are the exact same? NONSENSE!"
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -8/+3"You're intellectually lazy and you rest on stereotypes as a crutch to keep you from doing any mental heavy lifting."

        Pot, I'd like you to meet kettle.
      • osko2052, on 08/23/2008, -6/+3Kayala, what exactly is intellectually difficult about constantly casting insults and using the word "idiot" over and over again?
      • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -4/+7Sigh. While I should be happy that you are little children who want me to play teacher, it's kind of disappointing to know that you two are probably grown adults who should have some basic critical thinking skills.
        I don't think in generalities. I approach each of you assholes individually and evaluate each of you on your own merits. I've clarified multiple times in my attacks on Christians that I mean only to hit the sanctimonious, the dishonest and the hypocritical. Such ***** are the minority in the Christian population, and I approach them specifically.
        Contrast with your broad generalizations about ALL gays, not just the ones you see behaving badly. The fact that you cannot recognize this fallacy demonstrates that you are lazy and unwilling to put forth the effort to evaluate individuals one at a time, preferring to think that all the members of a very diverse group of people share the same habits, mannerisms and preferences. Think about this: as of July 2007, America was home to 301 million people. If we conservatively estimate that gays compose 2% of that population, do you know how many gays that would be? Six MILLION. Six million unique individuals spread across the country. For an idea of how many people six million is, imagine three Houston, Texases, or four Philadelphia, Pennsylvanias. (Estimates of their populations are as of July 2005.) Now, do you really think that six million unique individuals (and remember, that's a conservative estimate) could be "all the same"?
      • flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -5/+5kayalala said>>>"I don't think in generalities. I approach each of you assholes individually and evaluate each of you on your own merits"

        Irony anyone, anyone?
      • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -4/+5I must've missed the irony. Do explain.
      • Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -4/+5The only irony I see is that straybullett357, osko2052, and flip2trip all took the time to complain about you, but have no answer to
        "The rate of STDs is actually LOWER and the promiscuity rates LOWER among lesbians. Should *they* be allowed to be married? But just not men? "
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Liars. Anyone that knows how to read recognizes your dishonesty when it come to facts and figures. Stop feeding the trolls people.
    • PappyPapillon, on 08/22/2008, -10/+13God, using Paul as His instrument, records for us in Romans that sodomites are...

      "...filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful."

      And that is exactly what the sodomites and their supporters display everyday here on digg. Now we could get angry with them but that would be pointless as it is God Himself who has given them over to a reprobate mind due to their willful refusal to acknowledge Him as the Creator. I stand in amazement every time one of the digg sodomites speaks up as they predictably and without fail reflect the curse God has laid upon them.

      • Nannybell, on 08/22/2008, -10/+10Pappy, let's be clear, though, that God did not curse them by making them into homosexuals. They were already following that proclivity, so He just turned them loose to destroy themselves by following their proclivities to their ultimate natural consequences.
      • victorypup, on 08/22/2008, -10/+9Well said Pappy, I have heard it said, "it's a package deal". Turn your back on God and thumb your nose at his precepts, and you get the whole package. As a society it is incumbent upon us that we resist this incidious assault on our children and our childrens children. The package comes to those who will receive it. No body need be deceived by it.
    • somnambulator, on 08/22/2008, -7/+13reland1
      "it is my right to disassociate myself from that behavior"
      Of course it is. You absolutely do not, under any circumstances, have to engage in any gay/lesbian behavior.
      Although the only disassociation you can indulge in is in your mind.

      "we refuse to participate in the gay-lesbian agenda."
      Again, you are free not to participate, but you are not free to stop others participating. You do not have to buy gay greeting cards, you can choose the ones next to them, the straight greeting cards. They will not have cooties on them.

      And if TW is an atheist, then he has not turned his back on jesus.
      It would be an oxymoron to claim that someone has turned their back on something they don't believe in.
      As you don't know his religiosity you can't make that claim.
  • titlemikedotws, on 08/22/2008, -9/+11I don't care if two men or two woman want to get married, that's their business.

    Even though the bible says God created every herb to be used as man's meat, and marijuana is an herb by definition, if you don't want to use it that's your business.

    An herb is a plant that bears seed and withers in the fall.
    • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -9/+14Please direct yourself to the nearest Mental Hospital for a complete and full eval and a drug test thank you this has been a recording.........beep............what? Herbs? Pot?..
    • rjwusa, on 08/22/2008, -9/+14You been drinking bong water? What has ganja got to due with a Hallmark going reprobate?
    • KJeffV, on 08/22/2008, -6/+8Make certain you eat it then: No smokin' it!
    • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -4/+4LOL, well we know who's been smoking now don't we?
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -12/+13A guy enters a HallMarkaGay store and asks the clerk excuse me ''Can you point me to the Mixed Gay Couple section please?'' why yes Sir just follow the Rainbow carpet to the Gay Greeting Card section.......oh I see it theres Village People Music playing......thanks........next person walks in asks the clerk Hi can you point me to the Uncle wants to marry his Niece section need to get a card for ........looks around and whispers......my friend .......Thoughtless.......oh sure.right next to the Transgender card section.......you see it???oh yeesss thanks its a 6ft Guy in a dress with make up and red lipstick.........ahhhh no thats my son............oh ahhhh sorry.......exits store quickly to the beat of YMCA playing in the background........oh HallaMarkaGay what are you thinking??????
    • thoughtcrime, on 08/22/2008, -7/+9"why yes Sir just follow the Rainbow carpet to the Gay Greeting Card section"

      LMAO!! :-)

      All laughs aside, it wouldn't surprise me to see that happen sometime in the near future.
    • JulyZerg, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1Try to type so that someone can understand you.

      Actually, don't. What you have to say is nothing but insults, so we aren't missing anything.
  • Thorthewhore, on 08/22/2008, -9/+8Just watch Worldnetdaily.com or the American Family Association. They are in their process of grabbing their pitchforks. Why? Because these cards are most defiantly satanic?
    • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -10/+7How about just stupid and sick since when do Gay people write cards to each other anyways The Gays can just draw a pic of a penis and the Lesbians can just put on a Tie and grow a beard................
      • dx74a19, on 08/22/2008, -2/+4God will revard your love plenty.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -6/+2Cant take the heat dicxxx?
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/22/2008, -2/+4hope4god, You don't worship the Christian god, he preaches love and acceptance. Love the sinner, Hate the sin..
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -5/+5Jesus did not teach acceptance of sin. You do not love a person by accepting their sin.
      • rjwusa, on 08/23/2008, -6/+4Sisyphus said; "...he (God) preaches love and acceptance. Love the sinner, Hate the sin...."

        Really? Can you cite the Scriptures that teach this?
      • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -4/+5hope4fraud is simply a stupid little deluded Christian who could think in color but prefers black and white because it's less difficult to imagine that all people in a diverse group are exactly the same in mannerisms, preferences and habits. hope4fraud cannot conceive of a gay man having real love and respect for his partner, nor of a lesbian being comfortable with and proud of her femininity. That is not the fault of those real people, but rather the fault of the idiot who is too lazy to break the stereotypes his mind uses as a crutch.
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Get that from a self help book?
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -10/+11Typical Gay Greeting Card for that special guy with a mustache you both have, heres Valentines Day......Happy Aids Day!!!!! wow!!!!! or at Christmas it will be a picture of Santa and Rudolph getting Married oh how cute.........and Happy New Years Gay Greeting style ''Heres to another year hopefuly we wont get Aids'' and last but not least Easter Gay Greeting style ''OK Thoughtless where did you hide the eggs looks at his but and says ohhhh theres a lot of room there from so much ahhh ''Censored'' and TomLoses walks away and says ''Bitch''..................and Thoughtless says hey they are Rainbow colors and a little brown just a little...............
    • elcalrissian, on 08/22/2008, -4/+7You seem to enjoy applying gross stereotypes to people.

      Lets use your logic to define your life:
      - You read only one version of the bible because your pastor told you that was the right one.
      - You only choose to obey certain parts of the bible, while ignoring others (he without sin cast the first stone...)
      - You went to bible camp with 100 other people from the same community, same family, and same religion
      - all your friends are white, and middle-upper class
      - You have never visited another country
      - You KNOW that others are wrong, and you are right
      - Your pastor gets caught doing 3 things that Christians KNOW are wrong, and you ignore that issue (Ted Haggart, prostitution, meth, buttsecks)
      - Your children (as you yourself was) are brainwashed little robots whose breadth of view of the world, and multi-cultural knowledge are triumphed by my border collie
      - You 'hate the sin not the sinner' - which has never been explained to me
      - You think mooslims are evil false god worshiping demons (wikipedia Abraham, and figure out the differences between the observed GOD of Judiasm, Islam, and Christianity. HINT: its the same god.)
      - You go to a megachurch that is more concerned with selling you a hot java and playing rock music than it is with teaching good ethics and love for mankind
      - You fail to see that most bible stories are great parables to teach basic life lessons, instead you choose to live 'By the word of the Bible'. The bible never condoned using electricity, owning a television, or driving a car.
      - You hate your own kind (papists, nazis, KKK, LDS)
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -6/+5And YOU are not using stereotypes?
      • elcalrissian, on 08/23/2008, -3/+9Actually I was. Dont you see the point?
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -7/+5I see that you have come up with a list of things you believe to be true about *fundamentalist* Christians... that's what I see.
      • eir574, on 08/23/2008, -2/+7I think the point is that hope4god routinely characterizes homosexuals using bizarre stereotypes. Elcatrissian was showing him the other side of the coin. If hope4god thinks it's reasonable to stereotype all homosexuals, then he can't really expect that others won't do the same to him.
      • hope4god, on 08/24/2008, -7/+1Well let me tell ya then when the Gay Agenda is out there attempting to destroy Marraige between a Man and a Woman, and are openly trying to surpress the public through ''Hate Speech'' to stop Pastors from talking about the Gays in the Community attacking Children through Lies and trying silence parents so that parents dont know that the Gay Agenda is to get to there kids at a early age and brain wash them into accepting a Gay life as normal and its clearly not normal for Gay people. As far as your Hateful attacks on Churches and Pastors its the usual thing you and The Gay Agenda people do......Gays dont like to be exposed.they like to expose them selves...........but really the GAY perverse lifestyle is a sad one, but as long as The Gay Agenda is out there and tryins so hard to Lie and Cheat then the rest of us a lot of us will continue to show up at PTA meetings, Vote for Families and Morals not like the Gay Agenda ads that are out now Lying as usual and most common sense Americans are on to you and The Gay Agenda, The Religion part will maybe just maybe if you looked in to read it, used it, applied it then you would be on Hope4Gods views and many others, hey you Hateful Gay Agenda people have to hate others also right???
      • eir574, on 08/24/2008, -1/+7Thanks for proving my point, hope4god.
    • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -2/+7AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease which, like all STDs, has a higher risk of transmission among promiscuous people. If we legally recognize committed, monogamous, gay relationships, it stands to reason that there will be less promiscuity, and therefore less devastating diseases, in the gay community. This celebration of love and commitment is entirely in the best interest of gays, and of society as a whole.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -6/+2"If we legally recognize committed, monogamous, gay relationships, it stands to reason that there will be less promiscuity, and therefore less devastating diseases, in the gay community"

        Based on what? Does marriage make them more committed to each other?
      • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -1/+5Does marriage make heterosexual couples more committed to each other?
        Why are you playing dumb? Are you really that scared of being proven wrong, Christian fool?
        It doesn't take any more than a little common sense to notice that promiscuity rates and STD rates are vastly lower among married folks than among singles. If that works for the heterosexual community, which spans hundreds of millions of diverse people in the US alone, then it stands to reason that we would see the same effect were gay marriage legally recognized.
      • flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -6/+2"Does marriage make heterosexual couples more committed to each other?"

        No and that was his point. It's not the marriage certificate that will hold people in line, it's the commitment itself. Anyway this whole gay marriage thing isn't about equality or rights it's just about the depraved wanting to fit in. This will not make them happy. You cannot normalized depravity. You can legalize it, you can say "it's OK, it doesn't hurt anyone" but they still know their behavior is degenerate. People like you think they are helping gays get rights and all you're doing is enabling a continued destructive behavior.
      • eir574, on 08/24/2008, -1/+6How do you know that there are no homosexual couples for whom marriage would be a happy thing? I have homosexual friends who are far happier than you seem to think they should be, and you certainly don't know them as well as I know them or as well as they know themselves.
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2More lies.
      • flip2trip, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Exactly farmerjohn!! The gays think they have a happy lifestyle--oh if only everyone would accept them as normal then they could be happy. The sinner always wants to revel in his sin and he wants you to glorify it so he can feel better about his behavior.
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -10/+9The Lesbians will be easy for HallMarkaGay, just put pictures of Ellen DeGeneret, or Rosey O-Fat Donnell, or a Tire Biter dont ask dont tell...................
  • Communism, on 08/22/2008, -10/+8Buried for assholes.
  • TheGroje, on 08/22/2008, -10/+11Really, until Hallmark releases a "Good luck with the Boycott" series, they are missing out on a huge potential market.

    Roses are red,
    violets are not.
    Let's all hate for Jesus,
    and join the boycott.
    • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -7/+2Roses are ''TheGrodope'' and he makes no sense so go away quicky and hide back in the sticks, you dicx..........hey ''pac-man'' ahhh......ok......duurrrrr.........
      • TheGroje, on 08/22/2008, -3/+8What an excellent display of authentic forum gibberish. You get an exclamation point. (!)
      • somnambulator, on 08/22/2008, -5/+9hope4
        You had another godgasm there didn't you?
      • dx74a19, on 08/22/2008, -2/+7hope4jerk, you out of meds?
      • caddyshacker, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Let's hope you od on your meds dickface.
      • JulyZerg, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1HE makes no sense...?
  • Nannybell, on 08/22/2008, -11/+12Hallmark has been marketing *suggestive* greeting cards for a few years now. These include scantily clad females and *suggestive* comments, placed on the rack at the eye level of children. I complained to them about that some time back, but they apparently don't care. I guess they no longer care about their image as a family oriented company. Obviously they don't, because if they did they would know that the traditional family of a mom and dad married to one another is what is best for children and thus society as a whole. This has been demonstrated repeatedly in studies. Therefore, you can't be for families in REALITY and be for homosexual marriage and especially homosexuals adopting children. Those two things don't mix. It is depraved ignorance to intentionally aim for what has been demonstrated to NOT be best for children and thus society.
    • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -5/+5Free market, bitch. It works.
      Now, on to your ridiculous claims. You're going to have to learn to back up your claims, Nanny. I know it's difficult to actually have to put some effort into researching a subject before you speak on it, but trust me, you'll look like less of a moron if you at least try.
      Studies have shown that gay parents are just as capable of raising happy and well-adjusted children as straight parents are. Your fetishized "traditional family" no longer reflects the diverse range of families that are present these days in America, and you're simply going to have to get over it. It's funny that here you deny capable people their right to be parents, while in other places you'll defend "parents' rights" to screw up their children with poor education. Not a hypocrite at all, are we, little Nanny?
      The attempt here is to make gay families somehow "different," like the knockoff brand that isn't nearly as good as the original, designer brand. Sounds a lot like the attempts on Obama's character, doesn't it? Sadly for you, but happily for the rest of us, the tides of change will sweep over all your hateful generalizations and wash away your bigotry. You are no match for their power, reactionary Christian.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -6/+3"It's funny that here you deny capable people their right to be parents,..."

        No one has the "right" to be parents--you can pursue it, but it's not a right.

        "....while in other places you'll defend "parents' rights" to screw up their children with poor education."

        I assume you are referring to homeschooling--you sure you want to put the public school system up against homeschooling?

        You want to hear something funny? My wife works for a private Christian school and a local school principal just enrolled her kids there. You know what she said? "I don't want MY kids in THAT school." A few days later the Superintendent of the same school system enrolled her kids there as well.

        "Sadly for you, but happily for the rest of us, the tides of change will sweep over all your hateful generalizations and wash away your bigotry."

        We'll go around farting fairy dust and petting unicorns underneath the skittles rainbow.
      • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -2/+4Honey, if you want to talk about wishful thinking, why don't we talk about your imaginary friend and his historical zombie son?
        I see no refutation of a single point here. You must realize that ridicule only works against posts that are devoid of any sort of argument. My post, containing an argument, requires an equally strong argument in contradiction. You expose here your inability to think rationally, perhaps stemming from your rejection of a real education.
      • flip2trip, on 08/24/2008, -3/+3Kayala wants to talk about Jesus! It's a miracle!
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2Whopping big lies now!
    • Evilena, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2I don't believe in making the world child proof just because some parents are uncomfortable with their children seeing sexual images. I also believe that its adult women that don't want their adult husbands or boyfriends looking at scantily clad females on cards in stores that use children as an excuse. Children for the most part don't care about sex unless their parents make a big deal about hiding it from them. All up and down South Beach there are shops with postcards of topless women and women in thongs out in full display. Other than midwestern tourist kids, children don't even seem to notice them.
      • flip2trip, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2How sad it is for you that sex is nothing but a biological urge.
      • osko2052, on 08/26/2008, -2/+2Evilena is a porn peddler who would have no problem selling her perversions to anyone with a credit card. If you don't believe me, check out her website.
  • thoughtcrime, on 08/22/2008, -8/+6On Gays in General: I don't really give a wit what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. Have at it, but for God's sake, please keep it out of the public parks and restrooms!!

    On the Boycott: Why do homosexuals become apoplectic whenever Christians want to boycott something they find offensive?? The GLB community pulled-out all of the stops to disembowel the Boy Scouts of America for not wanting gay Scout Masters. If a certain group of people don't like something, it's fair and legal for them to boycott in protest as like-minded individuals.

    On Men (straight and gay): Come on guys... you ALL know our impulse is to "tag" anything we can, unless we have an incentive not to.

    On Straight Men: We all know our ladies tend to keep our behavior in check.

    On Gay Men and Promiscuity: Get two or more horny guys together (and that are attracted to one another) and they'll tag each others brains out. There is no restraint, no check on behavior. This tends to lead to promiscuity. Promiscuity, via the law of averages, puts gay men at a statistically higher risk of contracting HIV. Gay men typically have hundreds of partners...far more than any other demographic group.

    On Lesbians: I don't know how promiscuous they are (probably not all that much), but what I do know is that 99% of the ones I've known are downright MEAN, and paranoid to boot (unlike gay men). Too many "issues"...avoid, avoid, avoid.

    Personally, while I don't care what adult homosexuals do with or to each other, I don't like having their "lifestyle" crammed down my throat (no pun intended) every 5 seconds. Give it a rest kids, and people may quit hating on you so much.

    Digg me down, just my 2-cents.
    • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -4/+4On gays in general: Do you have the same revulsion for heterosexuals who go at it in public parks and restrooms? I reject your double standard.
      On the boycott: We're simply pointing out the ignorance and hatred necessary to boycott a celebration of love and partnership.
      On gay men and promiscuity: Thanks for the gross generalization, but I don't see any references. Can you show me evidence that, say, more than half of gay men (that's a pretty significant number) have hundreds of partners? Why, if all gay men are so promiscuous, would they want to get married?
      On lesbians: Your personal experiences were probably triggered by you being an *****.
      Now, how is offering greeting cards to celebrate love and partnership "having their lifestyle crammed down [your] throat"? I'm so tired of hearing this phrase, because it's not at all what's going on here. You aren't obligated to look, pay attention, or care in the least. Nobody's asking for your permission or your attention. Go back to your business as usual and just ignore them if you don't want to think about them. For God's sake, this isn't a ***** hard thing to do. You just want an excuse to be offended.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -3/+3"Do you have the same revulsion for heterosexuals who go at it in public parks and restrooms?"

        Yes.
        ------------------

        …A survey by The Advocate, a homosexual magazine, revealed that promiscuity is a reality among homosexuals. The poll found that 20 percent of homosexuals said they had had 51-300 different sex partners in their lifetime, with an additional 8 percent having had more than 300…

        Here are the actual stats for question 9:

        Homosexual males only (2294 responses)
        104 or 4.5% had 0 same-sex partners in their lifetime
        79 or 3.4% had only 1 same-sex partner
        330 or 14.4% had 2-5 same-sex partners
        264 or 11.5% had 6-10 same-sex partners
        306 or 13.3% had 11-20 same-sex partners
        399 or 17.4% had 21-50 same-sex partners
        288 or 12.6% had 51-100 same-sex partners
        276 or 12.0% had 101-300 same-sex partners
        248 or 10.8% had more than 300 same-sex partners

        (The total of homosexual males in this study reporting more than 50 sex partners in their lifetime is 35.4%. See The Advocate’s website for lesbian-only and combined male and female stats.)

        *****

        Additionally, question 14 asks Have you ever had sex with more than one same-sex partner at the same time?

        Homosexual males only (2304 total responses)
        No, never - 893 or 38.8%
        Yes, 3-ways only - 748 or 32.5%
        Yes, more than 3-ways on occasion - 663 or 28.8%

        (Question: Do you suppose 61% of heterosexuals participate in group sex?)
      • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -3/+2Was this survey scientific?
      • thoughtcrime, on 08/24/2008, -1/+2"...triggered by you being an *****"

        Yeah right. Ask most lesbians for the time and you're liable to get a response like: "WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN???!!! ARRRRGGGH!"

        I don't have the time or inclination to discuss the details. You're entitled to your half-assed opinions. Unfortunately, like most GLB defenders, no one else is. This from some clown that refers to anyone who disagrees with him/her/it as a "hateful homophobe". Where's YOUR evidence genius?
  • DuggDowner, on 08/22/2008, -6/+11The tide is turning on the so-called Christians and their religion of fear and hate. Soon they'll be boycotting every public space but their backwoods churches, and America will be a better place without them.
    • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -9/+3The ''Dung Downer'' has spoken...........of Dung of course oh you Hateful little Gay guy support of ObamaGate please continue to spew your Biggoted ways and expose yourself as the Liberal Anti-Family dork you are.
      • DuggDowner, on 08/22/2008, -2/+9Not hating gays and minorities makes you anti-Family? Please. Your lot is anti-American scum.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -5/+3Why is it whenever someone is talking about gays they drag race into it as if it's the same thing? Who said anything about race SmuggDowner?
      • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -2/+5How is it anti-family to promote marriage and parenthood among loving, committed couples?
    • dorsey47, on 08/22/2008, -3/+4America will be a Muslim place without them. do tell, what does an atheist fight for?
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/22/2008, -4/+5We fight for equality and freedom. We fight for a nation without discrimination, based in reality and propelled forward by science, logic, and tolerance!

        Oh and proper spelling and grammar!
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -8/+5While you are fighting for equality and freedom, be sure to fight for truth as well. For instance, this truth: that it has been demonstrated over and over and over that children do best in a family with a mother and father married to each other, not a homosexual couple. That's what *science* says. As for *logic,* how is it logical to place children with homosexuals when a traditional family is where children actually thrive and which produces the healthiest results for them? Why are you *tolerant* of what does not actually work for children? Children are the future of society. You are marching with your flag of tolerance right off the side of a cliff.
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/23/2008, -3/+7Nanny, If you link me to evidence from a non-Christian source I will gladly read it and adapt my viewpoints happily. Until then, don't spout it off as though it were fact. Show me the documentation.
      • Evilena, on 08/23/2008, -3/+7I would like to see this also if it is true.
      • Nannybell, on 08/23/2008, -5/+5OK, I will after this weekend when I have time to get all that documentation for you. However, in passing, will note that it is entirely possible for you to look these things up for yourselves if you really want to know. I will look them up and provide the information, but it does occur to me that if you are really seeking the truth, would you not look it up yourselves? See, that's what makes me suspicious of such calls for documentation. Since I know it's there, I also know you apparently haven't been looking for it. Also, if a Christian source cites studies etc., are you saying you will not reject that automatically? You automatically assume they are lying because they are Christian? You get into a bind with that kind of thinking, because those who are pushing the homosexual agenda are heavily biased themselves, you know. I know you think they are pure minded and all that and that they would never skew anything or fail to report something adverse to their cause, but if I were you I would be a little more cynical and demand proof of them as well.
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/23/2008, -3/+3I'm asking for proof from an independent source. Just like a gay source may not record negative data, Christian sources have been known many times to misinterpret information purposefully to skew the information.. I want it from a non biased source. I don't care about anyone's agenda.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -6/+4"I want it from a non biased source. I don't care about anyone's agenda."

        "non-biased source"--in other words only those sources that agree with you are non-biased.
      • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/23/2008, -1/+8@straybullett357 No, like from a public or state University. Or are they pushing the "gay agenda" as well?
      • Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -2/+6" in passing, will note that it is entirely possible for you to look these things up for yourselves if you really want to know."
        I look things up all the time. That is your job when you make claims like that.

        " Also, if a Christian source cites studies etc., are you saying you will not reject that automatically? You automatically assume they are lying because they are Christian?" I won't reject it if it uses sound reasoning that doesn't require that I be a Christian to follow it.
      • caddyshacker, on 08/25/2008, -3/+1***** you lying bitch. You have no soul. No one cares what you have to say. Go ***** yourself.
      • XNihil0Zer0, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2@Nannybell

        http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20051012/s ...

        Yes I will reject any christian source you give me. I don't doubt that they think the information they present is factually true. There's just never enough scientific peer review.
      • Nannybell, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I haven't forgotten about this, but have a horribly busy week and no time yet for providing sources as asked. Will do so. However, when I do cite them, I consider it to be an unacceptable burden that the person or group providing the citation not be Christian. James Dobson has many references to studies on his site, and so does Narth. You may not like either one of them on a personal level, but the question is whether or not the information they give is valid. That's all that matters. James Dobson is a credentialed specialist. He makes the statement on his site that there are literally thousands of studies dating back many years that support the claim that the traditional family is what produces the best, healthiest results for children. He gives citations regarding that. Narth makes similar statements. One thing I read stated that it appears to be the traditional family, where the child is living with his actual biological mother and father, that is the very best situation of all. If by default the situation is not as perfect as that, then we do the best we can and work to make it better. However, a situation that arises from unfortunate circumstances is vastly different from INTENTIONALLY giving a child less than that. Anyway, I will provide more information on it as I am able. Haven't forgotten.
      • Nannybell, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2XN, I will answer you on that link you provided.
      • Nannybell, on 08/27/2008, -2/+2I'm still working on this issue, but here are some things for starters:

        XN,
        I didn't see where the article you linked to provides the names of the studies it relies on. It just says: "Researchers looked at information gleaned from 15 studies on more than 500 children, ..." and "Studies from 1981 to 1994, including 260 children..."

        Since it fails to name the studies, I refer you to the following which discusses the flaws in studies that are used to promote homosexual parenting. Perhaps the studies in the article you linked to are covered herein.

        http://www.marriagewatch.org/publications/nobasis. ... (short version)

        http://www.marriagewatch.org/publications/nobasis. ... (full text)

        They sum up the flaws in those studies as follows:

        "Unclear hypotheses and research designs
        Missing or inadequate comparison groups
        Self-constructed, unreliable and invalid measurements
        Non-random samples, including participants who recruit other participants
        Samples too small to yield meaningful results
        Missing or inadequate statistical analysis"

        Also, consider the following statement by Dr. Jeffrey Satinover:

        "There has recently been an attempt to demonstrate that raising children in a same-sex household has no ill effect. These studies are few in number, none have ever looked at those areas where difficulties would be expected and one of the most repeatedly cited researchers was excoriated by the court for her testimony when she refused to turn over her research notes to the court even at the urging of the ACLU attorneys for whom she was testifying.

        What is known, from decades of research on family structure, studying literally thousands of children, is that every departure from the traditional, stable, mother-father family has severe detrimental effects upon children; and these effects persist not only into adulthood but into the next generation as well.

        In short, the central problem with mother-mother or father-father families is that they deliberately institute, and intend to keep in place indefinitely, a family structure known to be deficient in being obligatorily and permanently either fatherless or motherless. "

        -- (Jeffrey Satinover, MD is a Board-Certified Psychiatrist. He holds degrees from MIT (S.B., Humanities and Science), Harvard (Ed.M., Clinical Psychology and Public Practice), the University of Texas (M.D.) and Yale (M.S., Physics.) He completed his residency in Psychiatry at Yale with a year as Fellow of The Yale Child Study Center. He holds a Diploma in Analytical Psychology from the C. G. Jung Institute of Zurich. Dr. Satinover has practiced psychotherapy and/or psychiatry since 1974.
        http://www.narth.com/docs/senatecommittee.html




    • osko2052, on 08/23/2008, -1/+4No, I will just buy generic cards. You get the same thing for a quarter of the price. Hallmark cards are a big ripoff anyway. Just another reason to not buy them.
      • Evilena, on 08/23/2008, -3/+6I can't digg you down for that. This isn't 30 years ago. Its not like you can't just find your own card online and print it out in a quarter of the time it would take to drive to a store and buy one. The greeting card industry is obsolete. We have more important things to spend money on in a recession than a preprinted card. Just buy some nice card stock paper for your printer.
  • victorypup, on 08/22/2008, -11/+9The tide will turn. As it was in the days of Noah, and Sodom, there is fast coming a time when iniquity will no longer have it's free for all. Let God be true and every man a liar as we shall see who pulls the last strings in this parade of dancing pupets. Those trusting in a sin friendly gospel should take note as to how many actually survived the outcome of the flood and the fire.
    • StaticThunder, on 08/22/2008, -7/+10Talking snakes, rib woman, global flood, people turning into salt, zombie Jews. Come on. Get a real religion.
      • thoughtcrime, on 08/22/2008, -10/+4You mean one where you like, blow yourself up to get to sleep with 70 virgins?
      • rjwusa, on 08/23/2008, -8/+4"...Talking snakes, rib woman, global flood, people turning into salt, zombie Jews. Come on. Get a real religion...."

        C'mon! Obama is a talking snake and the leader of his own cult. What do you know. troll.
      • rightwingattila, on 08/25/2008, -6/+2Morally impaired talking snake.
      • StaticThunder, on 08/25/2008, -2/+5How could anyone tell he was morally impaired. This is before the knowledge of good and evil.
  • FeargusMcDuff, on 08/22/2008, -6/+11You guys are ***** mental - Homophobia has been proven to be directly linked with homosexuality, enjoy that you biggots.
    • dorsey47, on 08/22/2008, -4/+4who are you hating? its hard to tell what side you are on from the foam coming out the sides of your mouth.
      • FeargusMcDuff, on 08/22/2008, -4/+7I hate people that hate other people based on which hole they stick it in.
      • caddyshacker, on 08/25/2008, -2/+1Stick it in your ear *****.
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -11/+3Oh look its........dix74az19......hey too hot for you.The Gay Agenda needs another freaky helper
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -8/+4''DungDowner'' you just made a statement about Christians and backwards churches.oh like Baptist Churches? Catholic Churches, lets see ''DungDowner'' The Hateful Gay just got ''DungDowner'' on Black people, Latinos, Whites, Asians, because all the races belong to these churches as you said........''DungDowner'' backwards Churches. Racists, Gay, ObamaGate supporter, probably not even a American voter?, and you call other people Racists please ''DungDowner'' say more so we can all have a good laugh about your so-called expert advise on the Gays and the wonderful stories you want to tell you boyfriend tonite at the local hang out in ''DungDowners'' neighboorhood how exciting........................................
    • thoughtcrime, on 08/22/2008, -4/+5DuggDowner, or as I like to call him "Duggy", has the mental agility of a rusty 18th century doorknob. He's also threatened "Civil War II" if his homie the Black Messiah doesn't win the DNC nomination and the Presidential election.

      Duggy claims to be a high-falutin' lawyer, which if true, is probably the first time someone with the reasoning skills of a mentally handicapped second grader has managed such an achievement.

      Duggy in short, is a banal, hostile, and hateful person, who screams "hatemonger" out of one side of his mouth when it suits him, and "Civil War II !" out of the other side when he doesn't get what he wants.

      So consider the source.
      • DuggDowner, on 08/22/2008, -6/+5I never threatened civil war if McCain won the presidency, I only expressed my very real fear that a President McCain would not be able to unify the country. Let's face it, you bigoted nutjobs have branded half the country to be anti-American traitors. I don't see how we could hope to come together to accomplish anything so long as you want to ship everyone who doesn't look and think exactly like you to the concentration camps.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -6/+5Hi Thoughtcrime, Thanks I fiqured ''DungDowner'' out a while ago its fun to see him slip up hes a no threat he is a ObamaGate fan and lets face it McCain is not the best other choice, but the other choice is worse......Thanks for the warning and hope you have a nice weekend.
      • rjwusa, on 08/23/2008, -5/+7"......Duggy claims to be a high-falutin' lawyer, which if true, is probably the first time someone with the reasoning skills of a mentally handicapped second grader has managed such an achievement...."

        Wow. I thought "duggy" was an inmate being held in a mental institution? He's a lawyer? Proof that a degree and the passing of the BAR is no guarantee that that person has any common sense or intelligence as evidenced by the occupation of Obama, the Clinton's and most of Congress.
      • Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -3/+2Jack Thompson proved this back before Monica Goodling was even born.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCmL0JTGNHg
    • DuggDowner, on 08/22/2008, -5/+5Good to see another hate-filled phony Christian spouting bigotry. If your church preaches hatred and intolerance, guess what--they are backwards. So please, go back to your trailer, wash down a few oxycontins with some of your homemade moonshine, and get back to work waiting for Jeebus to come in the rapture. The rest of us will be living in the real world trying to clean up your mess.
      • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -7/+2''DungDowner'' what Church are you talking about there wise one.......? There are like 6 major Churches of different faiths some the same almost and some way off the others which one? oh and your Heroe ObamaGate belongs to one of the 6 Churches so your calling your ObamaGate a nutjob. Intolerance was never ever intended to be used as a Gay sword, it was intended to be used as a Race issue the color of ones skin, not by choice. The Gay Agenda people like to hide behind it and claim that all Black people, Brown people etc are Gay and that Racism and Gays are the same....Whoaaaa.you just insulted every person who was ever truly discriminated against by the color of their skin by that Intolerence that you ''DungDowner'' likes to go to so in closing please ''DungDowner'' continue to expose yourself once again as the new ObamaGate troll you are and lets face facts 08, McCain and Romney will be President. ObamaGate is not going to be President copy this note this in Nov America will have McCain as President and America will be first.
      • Evilena, on 08/23/2008, -3/+5" The Gay Agenda people like to hide behind it and claim that all Black people, Brown people etc are Gay and that Racism and Gays are the same"
        Show me where one person has ever done this.
      • straybullett357, on 08/23/2008, -3/+3@evilena--

        The Gay Agenda people like to hide behind it and claim that all Black people, Brown people etc are [like] Gay [people] and that Racism and Gays are the same"

        Cleaned it up for you--I figured that is what he meant.
      • Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -3/+2Ok. That makes more sense at least.
  • dorsey47, on 08/22/2008, -6/+6thank peter for the words

    there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lust

    there is no homophobia among christians, only ancient words that ring true
  • hope4god, on 08/22/2008, -7/+5@Fear, your missing the point Marriage here in California is under attack by The Gay Agenda people, groups, they already have Civil Unions and laws to ensure that both can make decisions on each other with Medical issues, benefits. The Gay Agenda doesnt want to stop there they want to get into Religion and keep Pastors of churches quiet and be able to marry in Churches and force Pastors to marry them, its happening now. Gays know that God does not ordain there Marriage but they want to pretend by lawsuits, Hate speech, threats of loss of 501c status, and fear among those in the Church that would dare say that Gays have no rights under Gods laws to Marry.Your comment is pure sexual and in nature part of the reason most, if not all of us God Fearing people oppose. Based on what hole they put it in...........you said..........sounds sick to me.
  • hope4god, on 08/23/2008, -6/+5Where ya been Goodena? Lie Decker is always commenting that Gay people have the same problems as the Black man, Lie Decker likes to bring that up so he can hide behind people that really have been discriminated because of the color of their skin. Now are you going to try to Lie your way out of this or be honest? Gay people are NOT the same as Black people as far as race.
  • hope4god, on 08/23/2008, -6/+5''DungDowner'' You must be the water boy.............
  • hope4god, on 08/23/2008, -6/+5Thanks Nannybell, we should pray for the Sinner, not accept the Sin. Its pretty sad people get on here and attack people and their Religous beliefs when they dont agree with their lifestyle when it affects us all. The Gay Agenda is about ending Marriage between a Man and a Woman, confusing Children, Stopping Pastors and Parents from teaching their Children right and wrong ie (Gays) and take away that from the Parents. God will prevail all you people who attack people for teaching their Children values wheres your tolerence?
  • kayala, on 08/23/2008, -5/+6I wonder if even the rest of the ***** Christians around here can stand the pure stupidity that hope4fraud can't seem to stop spewing.
    • Evilena, on 08/23/2008, -3/+6I like the name dope4god myself.

      It will be better tomorrow. I have found Sunday mornings to be oddly peaceful on digg,
      • hope4god, on 08/24/2008, -8/+1Goodlena and Kaya-lie-A its soo funny that both of you have words of Hate on your comments to people when you get yourself all riled up, and are so offended by the Light, maybe both of you could join the rest of the group and have a purpose but then again I guess that would be 2 less ''Street Walkers'' in your home town and someone got to be out there willing to take a few dollars................Kaya-Lie-A please change the Gothic crow picture and stop being the ''Free Service Rag'' for the guys, and GoodLena little less a lot less of the ''Lita Ford'' aka ''Local Street Walker'' make up it makes you look like your 50!!!! oh by the way ''Lita Ford'' is hot and ahhh........ur ........s-not.....
      • Evilena, on 08/24/2008, -2/+6More nonsensical rants about comparing me to celebrities from the 80's and giving me advice on how he thinks I would be more attractive. Last time I was Elvira and now I am Lita Ford.
    • hope4god, on 08/24/2008, -8/+1I wonder if your boyfriend says to its self '' Kaya-Lie-A is hungry stops and thinks where im a going find a pet shop open this late?'' to get you the best at the local pet mart, then thinks well maybe if I just get ''Kaya-Lie-A'' Kibbles and bits the Gothic Crow wanna be will be happy? Kaya-Lie-A when have you actually had a good point that was beneficial to everyone here like a message of Hope, Honor, Kindness? oh thats right we dont speak yur language here I will speak your language......Ruff, Ruff, Howl.......Sniff Sniff.......and your ever popular comments....You are a a'' '' oh go ''F''u''k urself, and your personal favorite..........Im a Whore....Wow ur such a treat to see here and read......and..........Laugh at.................Good luck at the job hunting this week while between the Free ''Lay overs'' you squezze out........there STD...........
      • eir574, on 08/24/2008, -2/+6"when have you actually had a good point that was beneficial to everyone here like a message of Hope, Honor, Kindness? "

        When have *you* ever had a message of hope, honor, and kindness? Your rants are filled with absurd stereotypes and lies. You make fun of anyone with whom you disagree by turning their usernames into something insulting. You may think you're spreading truth, but you're doing it in a way that will push those who disagree with you even further away. Making fun of people and speaking only in negative stereotypes won't help explain your point to anyone. It only makes you look hateful.
      • Cate320, on 08/24/2008, -2/+5"Making fun of people and speaking only in negative stereotypes won't help explain your point to anyone."

        Neither will his horrible writing skills. Sheesh.
      • eir574, on 08/24/2008, -1/+5I like the comment where hope4god says that it's unhealthy to discuss events that have taken place more than a few decades ago (http://digg.com/politics/Russia_threatens_sale_of_ ... ). It's not just that he thinks learning from history is useless, but that it's unhealthy!
  • ufee, on 08/24/2008, -1/+7Wow, when did Digg become so infested with bigots? Then again, when did Digg become so stupid in general?
    • hope4god, on 08/24/2008, -5/+1@uflea, when did the Hate people like you and others with the silly comments get out of jail to speak your boring comments??????
      • ufee, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2Boring? Most definitely not:

        BOYCOTT HALLMARK THARE GREETANGS R SO IMMORALE FAGS SHOULD HIDE AWAY AND DIE IN NAME OF JESUS

        There you go. Raw entertainment, straight from the big house.
    • beyondrightwing, on 08/25/2008, -5/+1It became so stupid when you joined idiot. Or are you that stupid not to see it?
      • ufee, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Clearly you're from the fresh crop of bigots infesting this once glorious website, beyondrightwing. The brand new demographic on digg, it seems.

        Think about this: This is about cards, yet because these cards are targeted at gays, people are getting in a hissy fit. Yet these cards have nothing to do with any of you! NOTHING. People's parents, friends, and family are buying these, because they love and respect them, and yet because these cards acknowledge the reality that gay people are, in fact, getting married, they must be banned?

        And you know, in a healthy Digg, there would be enough people here to point out that this is just an overblown pile of crap... That it is propagated by extreme people, who go out of their way to make extreme scenes, about triviality. And that's right, I called homosexuality trivial. Sue me. Better yet, murder me! At least then everyone else can see how insane you propagators can be.
  • hope4god, on 08/24/2008, -5/+1Hey Stray, no its Kaya-LIE-a typical joke of her Gothic Crow self she spews more hate, and if HATE was people then it would be china!!!! LOL
  • mak747, on 08/24/2008, -4/+3My, Kayala, you speak of sanctimoniousness so eloquently. The only problem I see here is that while you claim to only attack those hypocritical so-called "Christians", it appears that you wish to paint all those who profess a faith in Christ with the same brush you claim we use against homosexual behavior. With the shoe on the other foot, is it still so easy to take a moral high ground? I would reckon so, because most liberals happily build themselves up until they are confronted with the indisputable. At that point they cuss, start hurling insults and epithets, and resort to the most lowly tactics, setting a testament to themselves in the process.
    I do not find it necessary to resort to foul language to make my point:
    Homosexuality is unnatural, deviant, and dangerous. If Hallmark wishes to embrace deviancy by catering to those who practice it, I am not required to offer them my financial support in so doing. I hate cards anyway- I consider them a waste of money which is more than adequately compensated for with a letter or a phone call, wherein one's sentiments can be expressed freely and clearly. In fact, a homemade card from a child who cares is worth more than all the off-shelf preprinted cards money can buy.
    I won't miss Hallmark any more than I'll miss McDonalds. Mickey D's might have started their industry, but upcomers have completely shut them down in terms of quality and selection (I suspect the chain's founders are rolling over in their graves as surely as Sam Walton is) The point is, I don't care what businesses do- I am not obligated to patronize them if I disagree with their policies. Until King Obama gets his way, and we are forced to pay for deviant lifestyles even more (we already are, of course) than we already do, I'm not helping them.
    Those of us who believe in Christ are a stubborn and tenacious lot. We are hated and despised for it, and persucuted to the extreme in some parts of the world. Yet, despite watered-down doctrine and the curse of political correctness, believers are a tight-knit crew. The more the world masses against us, the closer we get.
    You are entitled to your opinion, but I will pray for you nonetheless. Put that shoe on the other foot for a change.
    'Nuff said.
    • kayala, on 08/24/2008, -3/+5Heavens, no. If you'd actually read anything I write, I am careful to only attack the dishonest, hypocritical and sanctimonious among your ranks. I apologize and correct myself when I get carried away condemning ALL Christians rather than just the ones whose appalling behavior requires condemnation.
      "Homosexuality is unnatural, deviant, and dangerous."
      In this one line you sum up everything that is wrong with the argument against homosexuality.
      1. You know what else is unnatural? Computers. Television. Cars. Eyeglasses. Cotton-polyester blends. If you want to strip naked and go live in the jungle, that's great, but unfortunately for you, the "unnatural" argument has no power due to its hypocritical nature.
      2. From what does it deviate? Your assumed "norm" of sexual behavior? What else is "deviant" according to your personal idea of normality? I'm tired of the assumption that there is some unwritten code of sexual behavior explaining clearly what we can and cannot do. We are consenting, intelligent adults and we can do whatever we damn well please (within our rights, of course). Nobody cares what you personally think is "deviant" or "different" or "abnormal," because to someone else it might be the most normal thing in the world. Your personal take is irrelevant to others.
      3. Dangerous? How is it any more dangerous than heterosexuality? I believe you meant to describe promiscuity, or unprotected sex, as dangerous - gays are stereotyped to participate in these obviously dangerous activities more than straight folk do, although that's quite unfair and not very true to life. You institute here a false dichotomy of straight, "safe" sex and gay, "dangerous" sex. It's ridiculous.
      I eagerly await the day when you will shed your tired arguments and simply admit that you think male anal penetration is gross and icky. We understand your fear of emasculation; it's common among the insecure. Just don't try to institute your personal sexual preferences as the absolute rules by which all must play - I mean, would you want someone else with totally different sexual preferences telling you what you can and cannot do? Why can't you just leave well enough alone, mind your own business and do your own thing?
      • hope4god, on 08/25/2008, -5/+2@Mak747 Thank you, Kaya-Lie-A aka The Gothic Crow is all to well on here and there attcking anyone but likes to go after Religous Posts, because Kaya-Lie-A aka The Gothic Crow feels the need to spew her Hate at anyone who wants to keep the word Marriage, ordained by God to remain between a Man and a Woman, Kaya-Lie-A ''The Gothic Crow'' isnt even in a committed relationship, she is just a Free Lay and nothing more to the guys so her Hate is the facts why she spews it at Christians because we dont just sit back and allow Hateful The Gay Agenda people to Lie their way around like The Gays sleep around with anyone...........The Gay Agenda is to get into schools and keep the Parents of the kids out!!! so as you can see The Gay Agenda is pretty worried when Christian and other Religous Pastors talk about their Lifestyle and the affects it has on Kids and now that The Gay Agenda is attcking Marriage, Ordained by God himself you can see that The Gay Agenda is in full swing. I hope that the more we expose The Gay Agenda and we will the more people, Parents, Pastors Friends will vote for The safety of Marriage in Nov and we will all churches in America are getting ready to help and pass laws that keep Marriage ordained by God between a MAN and a WOMAN. Kaya-Lie-A aka The Gothic Crow ''Freebee'' to her imaginary man......... gets upset and others hear also that have the same Hate interests as her get all riled up.......
      • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1More double talk.
  • hope4god, on 08/25/2008, -9/+1Eiirrrrr, and 320, both of you reasonable people......Cough Cough are friends with The Gay Agenda Hate Mongers so both of you biased people should be and will be laughed at, your Gay Agenda is to destroy Marriage, mock Religous people ie (Evillena) and Lie like (Kaya-Lie-A) so you both are not real serious about being a real kind hearted, and Family friendly so stop acting like you care and just stay out of the way of the Good people here...........Say yes to Familys a Man and a Woman, yes to Free Speech Pastors being able to talk freely in Church about any issues that face The American Family like The Gay Agenda, Drugs, Sex before Marriage--(Kaya-Lie-A) are you paying Attention??? and the hurting and suffering (Evillena) are you ready to clean up the ''Hooker'' look?
    • eir574, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8Yes, hope4god. Another wonderful message of hope and kindness from you. You accuse kayala of being unkind, and then you defend name calling and making fun of people who disagree with you (and not for the first time, either). It's not okay for others to be rude and to make fun of people, but you get to do it with impunity because you think you're on the right side of this one issue?

      You didn't answer my question from my last post. Do you think that name calling, mocking, and speaking in stereotypes are good ways to get your message across? Or, do you think those things might push people like me further away from Christianity? It's only since joining digg that I've gained experience with hateful, arrogant Christians such as yourself. If you're not like this in real life, then that's great. Don't be like this on digg, either. You and a number of other people on digg are starting to change my mind about Christianity. I didn't have a problem with it before. Now, I see its dark side. I see how people like you use it to feel superior to others, to mock others, and to push our society apart. Why would any decent person want any part of that? Do you think your god approves of the way you treat other people?

      This comment has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality, so please don't respond with one of your anti-homosexuality rants.
      • hope4god, on 08/25/2008, -7/+0@Eir, respectfuly if you bothered to look at the statements made by Kaya-Lie-A and others that have a rant against any Religous group, by the way Homosexual behavior is not ok with The Muslim Religion, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Catholic Church as a whole, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Christian, Jewish, so my Brother/Sister its not just The Christians. If your asking people and I think you are to respect and Honor other peoples Choices of sexual behavior, then it cant be and shouldnt be by any Religous Group, dont hurt the person, yes dont hurt them, but your saying my remarks are aimed at people just out of the blue with not any reason to ''Mock'' make fun of them. Eir its ok for them Kaya-Lie-A, Evilena, LieDecker, and others to come on here and make ''Mocks'' of peoples Religous Beliefs, or attempt to say hey accept my beliefs and let me and my Agenda (GAY) dismantle Marriage, suppress free speech by Pastors in Churchs, Parents at school where The Agenda (GAY) is working hard to get into or already have. So bottomline Eir, why dont you let your ''Friends'' know that being Hateful, Biggoted, and showing no Tolerence for someones Religous beliefs are wrong...........but you wont do that ahhhh................I will be waiting to see this....
      • eir574, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8First of all, if someone on the internet is less than nice to you, is that a good reason to mock them? Do you think it helps to further discussion? Do you think calling Kayala "Kaya-Lie-A" is even all that clever? It's stupid. At best, it makes you look petty. Making fun of people's names is something children do, not adults. Making fun of how people dress in order to insult them (as you did in another comment) is something children do, not adults.

        Beyond that, I think your definition of mocking religious beliefs is quite broad. Some people do mock them. I don't disagree that it happens. But, you seem to take any disagreement as mocking. You make fun of anyone who expresses a different opinion on homosexuality than you do. Most homosexuals are not asking you to approve of their sexual orientations. You don't have to approve of each and every marriage. Being asked to leave them alone isn't the same thing as being asked to approve of them. The strength of my marriage comes from my husband and myself. If two homosexual people get married, that doesn't affect us. If two heterosexuals get drunk in Las Vegas, get married on a whim and then divorce a week later, that also doesn't affect us.
      • ApokalypseNow, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8@hope
        http://www.webs05.com/images/religion/cartoons/ath ...
        http://www.bartcop.com/anti-christianBigotry.gif
      • Mnementh2230, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2AN - one of your links is broken dude. Bummer!
  • hope4god, on 08/25/2008, -8/+1@Evilena you should fire that make up artist you use or please stop putting on your make up in the dark!!!!!, Extreme Markover is maybe back again in Nov can I please put your name in as a need for Extreme Makeover???? or I guess I could buy ever black Gothic pants, ripped, and all Blood Red Lipstick, and death metal chains there in Miami!!!! so you cant buy them anymore and you have to look ahhhhh like Marilyn Monroe NOT Marilyn Manson The singer look.............Kaya-Lie-A is in a clothing crash of her own..........but from what she says she is more out of her Gothic Crow look clothes and bare with the Stud of the hour, for her so im afraid Kaya-Lie-A is a lost cause......LOL
    • SisyphusFragmnt, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2This is how Jesus wants his followers to behave? To insult people? Where is this message of love that is supposed to convince me to convert?
      • hope4god, on 08/26/2008, -7/+0Well first off you havent seen the posts made by these great people at me and others? so its ok for them to act and attack and you think its ok, ahh your a friend to Evilena and ObamaGate supporter so that tells me everything, but to be kind i want everyone to know Jesus!!! and when I do say something nice and talking with other kind people, these wonderful people ur friends with come on and mock and harass so why dont you do your homework next time??????!!!!!!!
      • eir574, on 08/26/2008, -0/+9Ah, yes. I see you had no reply to my last post, in which I asked you if doing something you know is wrong is okay just because someone did it to you. You continue to defend making fun of people as appropriate revenge, just as a child might. You continue to make fun of people's names (on another recent post), just as a child might. When you see people behaving poorly, as you say you do, why don't you demonstrate appropriate behavior for them? Show them how to respectfully disagree with someone through your own actions?

        Your profile says you have children. If two of them fought, would you find it acceptable for one of them to say that the other made fun of him first, and so that means he has free reign to be spiteful, mean, and petty?

        Is this really who you are, or are you perhaps better than that? Do you perhaps aspire to follow the teachings of your religion, or do you continue to reject them when you have a chance at some fun or some petty revenge on the internet?
      • somnambulator, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6Eir, yet again, you hold yourself to a higher standard than most of us can manage, in a place where anonymity encourages such vitriol. You always respectfully demonstrate appropriate behavior to all who read your posts.
        I must admit, that since participating in Digg I have encountered people I didn't know existed. I find them depressing, annoying and in the case of hope4 I've known stoners that make much more sense.
        I love reading kayala tear strips off the arrogant the ignorant and the stupid, but I also believe that treating people as you wish to be treated has great power.
        Anyone receiving the ire of Eir must soon realize that your posts display more of the tenets of their religious teaching, than any of theirs ever do.
        Please keep it up, your words are inspiring.
      • Evilena, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3I called him dope4god a few times when he was acting like a dope.
        If he wants to insult me in idiotic ways by making up things, I don't really care.
  • hope4god, on 08/26/2008, -5/+1Apokaka..........Since you dont understand or you choose to exnore The Gay Agenda why dont you step aside and let the real people do your work for you. I know Gays can be all perverse and wear Pink and have sex with every same sex member they can find, but the rest of us Humans who believe in Marriage and familiy values arent so down with the attacks on Marriage and Families like the Gay Agenda is trying to do. So when the Gay Agenda stops trying to punish, Mock, Lie to us Americans then maybe The Gays will be shown for what they are sexual deviants.
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