- Persondude, on 03/18/2008, -29/+449Dugg, picture made me very sad :( Free Tibet!
- DarkSamus, on 03/18/2008, -120/+12BOOM
HEADSHOT- MrNexus, on 03/18/2008, -5/+68This is real life you retard. Not some ***** videogame.
- Emnsta, on 03/18/2008, -52/+9Whatever, if you have to be all HIV Negative about it
- SteeleJK, on 03/18/2008, -13/+4There's no respawn in RL.
- sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -3/+11According to Buddhist faith there is, just you might spawn as a different class.
- lightishred, on 03/19/2008, -5/+2I actually found sovietninja's comment very funny. Is that out of line?
- yuutokun, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2I found it hilarious.
- digf, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0real Tibet and Dalai lama
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html - Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message52 ... - I WAS A TANTRIC SEX SLAVE FOR A SENIOR TIBETAN BUDDHIST MONK
http://journeyeast.tripod.com/western_scholars.htm ...
http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index2 The Secret Truth about The Dalai Lama (Hitler and the Dalai Lama)
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/E01B16E1-CACF-47F3-B ... - Dalai Lama: CIA Asset
- xxiao, on 03/18/2008, -26/+3See it for yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo- theAlice, on 03/18/2008, -3/+12go away spammer.
- sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -2/+4I thought China blocked Youtube from Chinese internet users, this must be a government sponsored propaganda piece. Why don't you go back to "photoshoppin" clear fresh air over Beijing.
- int19h, on 03/19/2008, -2/+4If you go far enough back in history, we're all from around Ethiopia and no country owns any land.
If Tibet is part of China just like any part of any country, why are they fighting for independence? Why do I see bleeding monks?
- RpgActioN, on 03/18/2008, -3/+9Wow, I don't usually find things distasteful, but...wow.
- toliseju, on 03/18/2008, -5/+2Insensitive *****. That man could have a wife, children and other loved ones.
- cliffhanger407, on 03/18/2008, -0/+10I'm not 100% sure about this one yet, but I'm pretty sure that Tibetan monks are celibate.
- MrNexus, on 03/18/2008, -5/+68This is real life you retard. Not some ***** videogame.
- oxdeltaxo, on 03/18/2008, -15/+5Anyone else hearing "For what it's worth" by buffalo springfield in their heads?
- gravytrain73, on 03/18/2008, -3/+4Absolutely.
- agentVivid, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30W3iRL48gQ
- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -24/+15Not a bullet wound.
I agree with the sentiment that Tibet should be free, but with this photo are you kidding? This is a very superficial scalp wound. Scalp wounds bleed very excessively even with minor damage. Think about the amount of blood you see during a boxing match or when a kid breaks their scalp crashing a bicycle. This guy is fine... look at the amount of color in his skin and his firm grip on the paper... he is still very alive and only slightly hurt.
This is nothing compared to those monks who would self-immolate during Vietnam. Now THAT is moving. Yeah, in general China is a human rights disaster and Tibet should be freed, but there are more moving photos.- displaced1, on 03/18/2008, -0/+6What the doc said. Irrigate with saline, cover with bacitracin and a dressing.
- GabingtoN, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6To DrDragun: Who cares which ***** photo is dugg? It's the message that is important.
- antispin, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1For what it's worth: "Tibetan exiles here said they had also received news of at least two Buddhist monks who set themselves on fire as an act of protest; that claim could not be independently confirmed."
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=46,6055 ... - andburn1, on 03/18/2008, -3/+10"He's not going to die, this picture is worthless." Shut the ***** up dude. Look at the amount of blood on his clothes. Look at his expression, look at the intensity of his weariness. There's blood on his lips and fire in his eyes, and, because of his cause, and those marching with him, he soldiers on. Arms around him; his expression stands alone. Try to grasp the subtlety of this stunning photograph, instead of immediately comparing it to one of the most memorable photos of all time and then dismissing it when it doesn't quite compare. You go to Tibet, then tell me this isn't moving. You're an asshole.
- mickstephenson, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1I hate it when people summarise what someone said in there own words, to make it sound more callous to suit there agenda. Then put quotation marks around it, and act as if it is what they actually said.
- andburn1, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1That was the spirit of his comment. Phrases like "are you kidding?" "this guy is fine" and "this is nothing compared to" demonstrate exactly the kind of callous douchebaggery that my paraphrasing showed. I was hardly misrepresenting him
- mickstephenson, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1I hate it when people summarise what someone said in there own words, to make it sound more callous to suit there agenda. Then put quotation marks around it, and act as if it is what they actually said.
- Emnsta, on 03/18/2008, -13/+31Stop ***** talking about it and do it, or shut the ***** up
Who is going to free Tibet? Huh? Just because you keep saying that, a nation is not going to automatically go, look some people are saying free Tibet, lets do it, because their opinions matter more than anything!- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -0/+16The best place to start is to reaffirm that public sentiment is behind Tibetan freedom. After that is is up to the government. Not much an American or European citizen can do in this matter other than try to encourage the government to find a diplomatic solution. No we are not going to fight China in a military way. Diplomacy is the correct path.
- Godlike, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1If the U.N. went over there and started (doing anything at all) the D.L. would immediately demand that we leave because of the horrible violence that our presence would constantly inflict upon that region... there is nothing we can do and it is unfortunate that they want to be free but cannot be but really... there is nothing anybody in the west can do.
- oxdeltaxo, on 03/18/2008, -0/+6Short of a civil war I doubt any progress would be made to free them.
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -6/+1That's the part I don't understand about all of this. If Tibet wants to be free then they've got to start fighting, earn the respect of other nations to hopefully get behind them etc. Look at America, we had enough.
- Dubbsacc, on 03/18/2008, -0/+10Unarmed peaceful monks != American settlers
- andburn1, on 03/18/2008, -0/+7Yes, violence is the answer. They should sacrifice their beliefs to save them. Good plan.
- Mejari, on 03/18/2008, -0/+5Hello, China? I have something you may want, but it's gonna cost you.
That's right, all the tea
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -6/+1That's the part I don't understand about all of this. If Tibet wants to be free then they've got to start fighting, earn the respect of other nations to hopefully get behind them etc. Look at America, we had enough.
- NJank, on 03/18/2008, -2/+17hmmm... do they have oil?
- Bertitude, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6very very good question... if America is all for helping and promoting democracy and freedom why aren't they up there in 2 shakes?
- elnerdo, on 03/19/2008, -0/+5...Because we can't fight China?
- DaMacGamer, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2Yeah, we only get involved when the enemy is smaller and weaker than us, god forbid we actually go after a legitimate enemy.
- SamuraiGhost, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1Because then we would fall victim to one of the classic blunders?
- hypercrypt, on 03/18/2008, -0/+9China could put a few of those $$$s on the market and then it'll really be Monopoly money. America can't touch China. :-(
- Bertitude, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6very very good question... if America is all for helping and promoting democracy and freedom why aren't they up there in 2 shakes?
- NinjaBoy, on 03/18/2008, -1/+5I would do anything, absolutely anything to help them out. But the sad fact is there is NOTHING I can do about it.
- antispin, on 03/18/2008, -0/+5Write to your MP. Write to a newspaper. Tell everyone you know about Tibet and what is happening. Etc etc etc...
China is cracking down in Tibet because they don't want negative publicity ahead of the Olympic Games. If they decide that the crackdown is *causing* the negative publicity, they might stop or at least ease up.
- antispin, on 03/18/2008, -0/+5Write to your MP. Write to a newspaper. Tell everyone you know about Tibet and what is happening. Etc etc etc...
- Anthropoid, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2Talking about the issue is probably more helpful than shutting up about it, even if Persondude fails to actually free Tibet.
- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -0/+16The best place to start is to reaffirm that public sentiment is behind Tibetan freedom. After that is is up to the government. Not much an American or European citizen can do in this matter other than try to encourage the government to find a diplomatic solution. No we are not going to fight China in a military way. Diplomacy is the correct path.
- jm4847, on 03/18/2008, -24/+12Free Tibet? What moral authority do you Americans have to say that? You took land by force from México and never returned it or expressed regret for it. So did many of the countries that are crying for poor Tibet now. Hypocrites.
- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -4/+19I did not personally do that. Nor did I keep slaves to make any railroad or grow cotton. History is history, present day is present day.
You digg a lot of American politics for a non-American- jm4847, on 03/18/2008, -8/+4It's like my father steals something, and I keep it and don't even apologize for it. At least you released the slaves.
"You digg a lot of American politics for a non-American"
So?- inspecality, on 03/18/2008, -2/+5I, for one, am not kissing Jesse Jackson's ass.
- Godlike, on 03/18/2008, -1/+7They weren't our fathers, either. Not only are the people that did those things gone MANY MANY generations ago, they did it in a completely different culture under a completely different moral stricture. That doesn't make it OK in our modern context but that leaves us with:
1) At the time that's how it was done (new lands to conquer) and if the Europeans didn't take the new world the Spaniards would have;
2) We inherited the world, we didn't make it. The best blame you can get out of anyone alive would be Korea or Vietnam, you don't even get WW2 anymore - that's how insanely out of date you are with your Amerihate.
3) Please try to remember that if you are accusing our ancient forefathers of crimes and saying that we should endure the blame, you probably share just as much of it, especially if you are European. - cphoover, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3u morons probably wouldn't be for affirmative action either.
the united states government has had a history of policy that has created great social inequalities. Now that same government needs to create policy to get rid of this disparity. Don't try and act like the present has nothing to do with the consequences of the past because that is just nonsense. - an0nym0uz, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Godlike, it wasn't many generations ago, this country is only about 230 years old which is equal to at most 5 generations and that is a few at best. It was only barely two generations ago that the schools were still segregated.
2) you didn't inherit ***** dude, got news for you buddy, Manifest Destiny was written by a guy, not god.
3) your forefathers are far from ancient, and what the hell are you talking about?
- boester, on 03/18/2008, -0/+6On this present day, WE SHALL RETURN AMERICA TO THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS!
(which has roots from China by the way) - uriman, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1never going to happen.
- jm4847, on 03/18/2008, -8/+4It's like my father steals something, and I keep it and don't even apologize for it. At least you released the slaves.
- jordanmerle, on 03/18/2008, -4/+9I love when people from FOREIGN countries group Americans together despite the fact that it is one of the most diversified countries on the planet with more colors, creeds, religions, and political ideologies than anybody can name.
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4really? just like how americans do the same thing to foreign countries?
- jordanmerle, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1True, but the majority of nations out there are much more homogenous. For example Japan, China, many African countries, and most of Western Europe just to name a few. While there is some diversity in these nations it pales in comparison to the United States. I live in Southern California so I see it first hand. I'm a mutt myself.
- hypercrypt, on 03/22/2008, -0/+1That is BS, you've not given any examples, you just listed countries, not mentioned how they are less diverse than you.
Your political system is so diverse that you basically have two parties with names that are close synonymies for each other. If your political ideologies are so diverse, you should have coalition governments regularly, not elections that have less than 3% between the two (serious) candidates.
Also, when a lot of people talk about Americans, they talk about your politics, the way that 9/11 was abused by your government to suppress you and attack other nations, the way that you think that you rule the world pressing your 'ideologies' on others. How can America try to force democracy on other countries then they do not have a perfect democracy themselves? How is it democratic that Bush beat Gore in 2000 when Gore won the popular vote (even if it was by 0.5%)?
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4really? just like how americans do the same thing to foreign countries?
- roadtripguy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+4Exactly as DrDragun says. The history of the US is NOT my fault. I don't take any blame for it and I owe NOBODY anything for it either. I don't agree with it, and do not support anything like it. Stop putting 300 million people in the same group.
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -6/+2so then go free texas or stfu
- toxicshok, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1free texas from what? I'm pretty sure they want to stay part of the US
- an0nym0uz, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1give it back to mexico, I'm sure they would be glad to take it back
- jordanmerle, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1if you gave mexico back to the mexicans they would have to leave it in order to escape to back to the United States.
- rootofunity, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3What flawless country do you come from?? To make such a claim?
- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -4/+19I did not personally do that. Nor did I keep slaves to make any railroad or grow cotton. History is history, present day is present day.
- DrDragun, on 03/18/2008, -15/+8Pfff fine digg down my previous comment that he is only suffering from a superficial scalp wound. This whole submission is designed for the reader to imagine the worst, with no description and a vague title. He is NOT shot in the head. He is alive and will live to protest another day. His skin is still full of color and he has a firm grip on the paper.
Yes, his facial expression sells the picture, but other than that it is unexceptional. He is wounded and dazed but he is still soldiering on with the protest. It is admirable. But I would still argue that any photo of a Chinese political prison would be much more moving that some guy with a 1/4 inch scalp wound. Yes this guy took a police baton to the noggin, but seriously in Chinese political prisons they make you stand neck deep in sewer water for weeks until your body is covered in fungus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong- Prototek, on 03/18/2008, -1/+9No one dugg you down for that. It's when you said, "This is nothing compared to those monks who would self-immolate during Vietnam. Now THAT is moving. Yeah, in general China is a human rights disaster and Tibet should be freed, but there are more moving photos." It's offensive and you rightfully got dugg down. Deal with it.
- joshblufs, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1I understand your point.. I dugg you down both times because your comments are not constructive just nitpicking. If you had made your point with a better photograph instead of shooting holes in a photo people obviously find moving I might feel differently. I at no time thought he was shot in the head and I don't feel every digg submission needs the extended disclaimers you seem to require.
- xxiao, on 03/18/2008, -8/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo
- theAlice, on 03/18/2008, -3/+2i see what you did there.
- furbyboy, on 03/18/2008, -14/+7FREE HAT!
- mundus, on 05/15/2008, -6/+1oh man! lol
- awongca, on 03/18/2008, -6/+2http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=lFY1j8qs9mk
- funkyjunk3, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1and there aren't bad apples in the crowd? Of course there was a bloody riot. The Majority of people were peaceful though, and then you have hoodlums like the above the looted and rioted who gave the peaceful protestors a very bad light.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1the majority of those tibetan bastards were hoodlums
- funkyjunk3, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1and there aren't bad apples in the crowd? Of course there was a bloody riot. The Majority of people were peaceful though, and then you have hoodlums like the above the looted and rioted who gave the peaceful protestors a very bad light.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -10/+5What makes all of you think that it wasn't the Tibetan mob that incidentally trampled his ass during their rioting and burning of ethnic Chinese stores?
- mundus, on 05/15/2008, -10/+8Declare Independence! Don't let them do that to you. Raise your flag. HIGHER! - Bjork.
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -2/+2I think Bjork is among the last people from whom I would take advice about anything.
- lovebeta, on 03/18/2008, -9/+12I am really tired about all these diggs. How much do you know about China and Tibet to make judgments? If you don't fully understand your ignorance on this issue, here's one example: do you know that this picture was taken in NEPAL not in TIBET, China?
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/18/2008, -7/+1There wasn't a question of where the picture was taken.
- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -2/+2Most people think the picture was taken in China. Most people also imply that China is full of communist scum, which is why they are hurting monks. Come on, does everything need to be spelled out to you?
- Thefascist, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Both of you sound like oprah, "truth isn't important" Remember that.
- Anthropoid, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1I for one don't know much about politics in general. But if you have reasons freeing Tibet would be a bad thing, I'm willing to listen.
- Anthropoid, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Actually, my comment was apparently false, because the guy a couple posts down apparently presented some arguments against freeing Tibet, but I didn't take the time to read them. Apparently I'm lazier than I gave myself credit for.
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/18/2008, -7/+1There wasn't a question of where the picture was taken.
- sardon1c, on 03/18/2008, -7/+1America had Tibetan Freedom concerts, starting back in 1996, featuring all kinds of big name artists. It did a lot to raise money and awareness. Tibet should be free by now.... /sarcasm
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -13/+16If people have the rights to let their vioce be heard,
it should not be only the Tibetan's
Reference sources about Tibet story
"Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth"
http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html
"How China Got Religion "
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/opinion/11zizek. ...
""...the problem with Tibetan Buddhism resides in an obvious fact that many Western enthusiasts conveniently forget: the traditional political structure of Tibet is theocracy, with the Dalai Lama at the center. He unites religious and secular power — so when we are talking about the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama, we are taking about choosing a head of state. It is strange to hear self-described democracy advocates who denounce Chinese persecution of followers of the Dalai Lama — a non-democratically elected leader if there ever was one. ”
Tibet Diary 1 -6 (here is the link for 1 only)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fNeGcLoPFow
"Tibet WAS,IS,and ALWAYS WILL BE a part of China "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo
Please think about the following slogans before you support Tident's Independece
Free Basque!
Free Catalonie!
Free Québec!
Free Corsia!
Free Brittany!
Free Scotland!
Free Walse!
Free Abkhazia!
Free South Ossetia!
Free Pridnestrovie!
Free Serb-dominated Northern Part of Kosovo!
Free California!
Free Texas!
Free nex MEXICO!
Free Hawaii!
THANK YOU!
Credit goes for this post http://www.cchere.net/topic/1483899/1 and digg user indybluff- Beijing08Facade, on 03/18/2008, -7/+3jc801: What a Pathetic Attempt to Undermine and Discredit Tibetans Just cause for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, FREEDOM FROM CHINESE GOV'T OPPRESSION & A "REAL" AUTONOMY !
ALL these Parenti's Propgandas are HEAVILY Backed up BY CCP Chinese Communist Party.- shiftyspider, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6Why Do You Capitalize almost Every Word?
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -2/+4Awe Beijing, been chasing you all over the place, you Tibetan Elitest lama, why are you escaping my questions man? answer me you elitest lama, even the DL is ashamed of you. Next time when you want to use peace loving in a sentence describing you people (the Elitest and Lamas not the Tibetan people, he does not speak for them) try setting fire to yourself and not other tibetans and their belongings. Douchebag!!!!
- Arisian, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4the OP is an idiot. Ive spent the last 3 years of my life studying Tibetan history and culture in tibet and also in the states and what you are saying is just a bunch of strung together google searches...
- Alexcarrier, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4Woot Free Québec!
- diggimator, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2The whole "Free [insert something besides Tibet here]!" red herring bit was silly, but to answer your previous Chinese-brutality-ignoring blurb about the Dalai Lama not being democratically elected, just look at all the other leaders who aren't: European monarchs, the Pope, Chinese polititians, etc. The world has more respect for the Dalai Lama then any leaders of the Communist state, past or present, because he has moral authority. Dispite propagandas that state the contrary, China's treatment of Tibetans have been, and continue to be, wrong.
- Styrkur, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitles them, a decent respects to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. THAT WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE OF THESE ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH IT, AND TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT.... SAFETY AND HAPPINESS." - judychung1980, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0http://digg.com/politics/Mexico_reconquers_Califor ...
- Beijing08Facade, on 03/18/2008, -7/+3jc801: What a Pathetic Attempt to Undermine and Discredit Tibetans Just cause for BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, FREEDOM FROM CHINESE GOV'T OPPRESSION & A "REAL" AUTONOMY !
- LemmingJesus, on 03/18/2008, -1/+8Peter (runs to picketers bearing signs that say "Free Tibet"): Free Tibet! I'll take it! (Runs to phone booth.) Hello, China? I think I have something you may want, but it's gonna cost you....that's right--all the tea.
- pe5t1lence, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3For another opinion, you might check my digg http://digg.com/world_news/Another_View_on_Tibet
Seems to be written from the Han Chinese Perspective- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2nobody wants to hear from the Hans. Hatred is not as fun when you get both sides of a story.
- ubuntu710, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1wow just saw this picture no joke, "Let it be" started playing, creepy and sad
- spammvp, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1thats odd, i started hearing Get Back
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -3/+7for all of you morons: that monk is NOT in China, what happened to him was not done by the Chinese police.
more for you idiots talking out of your ass:
"While the situation inside Tibet remains unclear, much of the violence last week appears to have been committed by Tibetans against Han Chinese"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23686441/- diggimator, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Your link's broken - the linked article doesn't refer to the picture.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1i know it doesn't i t refers to the quote
- pngpng, on 03/20/2008, -0/+0http://digg.com/world_news/James_Miles_the_only_fo ...
let's see a true story and then make the judgment - wwkkmm1988, on 03/23/2008, -0/+0中华民族大团结万岁!
- judychung1980, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0digg.com/politics/Mexico_reconquers_Califor ...
- DarkSamus, on 03/18/2008, -120/+12BOOM
- caponumen, on 03/18/2008, -56/+632BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
- bgale246, on 03/18/2008, -11/+89I won't be watching. I know im only one person, but I won't be watching.
- godzillaWax, on 03/18/2008, -5/+47You're not the only one. And it's not enough to boycott - contact the sponsors and tell them you're not buying their products.
- stretch611, on 03/18/2008, -2/+20Especially the ones that import from China.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -0/+20which is like all of them.
- evilregis, on 03/18/2008, -3/+34"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead
- Neph, on 03/18/2008, -3/+9Point well taken, but let's be realistic. Deciding not to watch something on TV does *not* count as "committed", it's not even close.
- krackajap, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2While I agree that it does not count as committed, imho it's a good start.
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -6/+2did you ever watch? Are you using a computer that's made in America? Are you being a hypocrite? Yes, Yes, and Yes!!!!
- godzillaWax, on 03/18/2008, -5/+47You're not the only one. And it's not enough to boycott - contact the sponsors and tell them you're not buying their products.
- slvrbullet87, on 03/18/2008, -4/+27A boycott from me doesnt do any good, I havent watched in 8 years
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -3/+4I'm good with getting rid of the Olympics altogether. Seriously does anyone watch them? About the only thing I do anymore is just get updates on medal standings. Even then I'm about a week and a half late :)
- Takfam, on 03/18/2008, -31/+12Yes, let us take hundreds of people who have trained their entire lives to the peak of athletic perfection for the opportunity to represent the pride they feel for their country. Then let's tell them that they have wasted all of their time because we're going to make a political statement.
- theAlice, on 03/18/2008, -2/+21A few hundred people are worth more than thousands of Tibetans killed through genocide?
- Takfam, on 03/18/2008, -5/+3Move out right now. Move out of your house and give it to a group of homeless people. 1 person for 5. That's a good ratio. We'll see how deep your convictions lie.
It's easy to talk about shattering other people's lives. Let's see if you're willing to put yours out there.
- Takfam, on 03/18/2008, -5/+3Move out right now. Move out of your house and give it to a group of homeless people. 1 person for 5. That's a good ratio. We'll see how deep your convictions lie.
- californiakevo, on 03/18/2008, -2/+18I think this transcends sports.
- Thefascist, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1please explain??
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -7/+7"...hundreds of people who have trained their entire lives to the peak of athletic perfection ..."
Umm I'm sorry but training for something that has no relevance in today's society just means you are a sad individual. It's kind of like being the best in the world at Halo, it really doesn't matter. The only thing that these people will ever do after their olympic careers is that first they get endorsements for products that only are relevant to their particular sport and then the rest of their lives they will coach their sport and sometimes get recognized as a past Olympian. The only thing the Olympics do for these people is sets the price they can charge for coaching/lessons.- Couchy, on 03/18/2008, -0/+9Dont trash olympians man, not everything in this world revolves around sitting behind a desk. Sport is a beautiful thing. In this case we simply look at the bigger picture, which is boycotting China, and the olympics therein.
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -2/+4I'm not saying that everything revolves around a desk at all. All I am saying is that the sports in the Olympics are outdated and there is much better sports (competition) going on out there: Soccer (Football depending on which land mass you live on), American Football, Rugby, Baseball, Aussie Rules Football, Basketball, Golf etc. To me the world just grew out of it... sorry but I think there is a great truth in my comment.
- philconow, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1@ Cerebral
Soccer (Football), baseball, and basketball are all Olympic sports. What you think is outdated is still practiced and watched by many. What I think is happening here is you are jealous of athletes in the Olympics because you can never be one. - Cerebral, on 03/25/2008, -1/+1@ philconow
True that those are all Olympic sports but how many olympians went on to play in the professional leagues... I'm talking before the "Dream Team" thing started with Basketball etc. The issue is that these guys don't want to put their careers on the line (risk injury) for nothing.
I'm sorry but the Olympics are supposed to be the "Best of the Best" when in fact the "best" only come from sports which mean NOTHING after the Olympics are over. The sports that have a true professional league only have amateurs playing in them.
There is no way that you can tell me that Olympic Soccer is nearly as popular as the World Cup.
- DrGamez, on 03/18/2008, -4/+1Thank you Cerebral, was beginning to think digg has finally disappeared up it's own ass.
- Couchy, on 03/18/2008, -0/+9Dont trash olympians man, not everything in this world revolves around sitting behind a desk. Sport is a beautiful thing. In this case we simply look at the bigger picture, which is boycotting China, and the olympics therein.
- jtmeyer, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Yes, let's refuse to make any sort of sacrifice of any sort--for anyone--of any significance--and try to make a political statement that way.
- Tinkered, on 03/18/2008, -3/+3The Olympics are nothing but a political statement. There are many other opportunities for athletes to compete in their respective sports. The idea of having all the competitions across many sports at the same time in the same place is purely a political. If this wasn't true why would it matter so much where they were being held?
- hmcook87, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1some things are more important than people getting to run / jump / swim for their country.
- theAlice, on 03/18/2008, -2/+21A few hundred people are worth more than thousands of Tibetans killed through genocide?
- Oysterville, on 03/18/2008, -10/+32Just a note that last year China was removed from list of worst offenders of human rights violations. The US must've supplanted them.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -3/+3Yay! I mean...
*****. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 03/18/2008, -4/+1It had something to do with all the loans they gave the US.
- NAK321, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0And how does the US beat the millions of females aborted or killed in their country each year for no humane purpose or reason other than gender? Grow a global clue. Quit the anti-us/bush/scientology-hype-bash-orgy.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -3/+3Yay! I mean...
- sickrubik, on 03/18/2008, -1/+18What are you trying to tell us?
- FadieZ, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3Boycott the Olympics.
- sickrubik, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1FOR REALS?
- FadieZ, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3Boycott the Olympics.
- PolishLogic, on 03/18/2008, -10/+5No thanks.
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -3/+15Don't be ridiculous that would be very unfair to the people in China. Those who are causing this violence are individuals within the Chinese government. Blame them and remove them from power, but don't punish those who have done nothing wrong and have no power to make a difference.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -3/+8I don't understand how all you idiots can blame the government for the Tibetan mob MURDERING innocent ethnic Chinese in Tibet? are you all ***** retarded?
- Couchy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3Because the government doesn't give a *****.
- emrldwpn, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3If they didn't care, they wouldn't be sending in troops.
- ranalicious, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1If they really cared, they would leave Tibet alone.
- letitbleed62, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1a lesser man would scream "LEAVE TIBET ALONE" while crying, but I'm not going to stoop to that level
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -0/+4thanks for pointing that out but we're not idiots and we aren't '***** retarded'. I haven't studied Tibetan/Chinese history. I came to digg to share knowledge, not to learn something and then get insulted.
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2then you know that the Tibetan is a oppressive religion, then you'd also know all the domestic programs aimed at helping the Tibetan, you'd also know that the Tibetan literacy rate from almost 0 is to almost 90%, you'd also know that Tibet is and always will be part of China, and you'd know that all the people creating protests are all Tibetan Lamas or Elitest.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1so don't make stupid uninformed ignorant ass one sided comments
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2About as innocent as Israeli settlers living in Palestine.
Maybe they don't deserve to die though.- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1those Chinese that were MURDERED were totally innocent people just trying to make a living, what if the entire Mexican population in California and Texas rose up and began murdering innocent caucasian americans? then that would be a sad story right? geez you are so ignorant its not even funny.
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Yes they are, very retarded. Well when sheep have been domesticated for so long, they only listen to the Shepard.
- Couchy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3Because the government doesn't give a *****.
- jimmyleeca, on 03/18/2008, -1/+0you mean all the mobs work for the government? then they should be getting an oscar award while carrying their loot back home.
- Sogladtobehere, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1The problem I have with your comment is that the Chinese government has a long history of crushing peaceful protest as well as violent riots with an iron fist. Most of this unrest that we are witnessing now can be laid at the armies feet.
- hmcook87, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1yea, the chinese people have no power to make a difference. are you really saying that a BILLION people couldn't force a change in their government if they felt strongly enough?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -3/+8I don't understand how all you idiots can blame the government for the Tibetan mob MURDERING innocent ethnic Chinese in Tibet? are you all ***** retarded?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -6/+11What makes all of you think that it wasn't the Tibetan mob that incidentally trampled his ass during their rioting and burning of ethnic Chinese stores?
- hubbard67, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1hmm, i wonder if their anger has anything to do with their repression?
i think their anger is justified whether properly channeled or not, the rioting wasnt them being racist, it was a cry for help- jn35, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0Beating, smashing, burning innocent Han residents to death, you call it A CRY FOR HELP???????????
- hubbard67, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1hmm, i wonder if their anger has anything to do with their repression?
- vvortex3, on 03/18/2008, -7/+1BOYCOT + BAN
- Bodhinature, on 03/18/2008, -2/+13Boycott everything Chinese? That won't be an easy task. I'll have to boycott Wal-mart. Wait. I already do that.
Done and done!- arjung, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1are you using a computer right now? then you certainly aren't boycotting everything chinese...
but walmart is a good first step.
- arjung, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1are you using a computer right now? then you certainly aren't boycotting everything chinese...
- fuzzmeister, on 03/18/2008, -2/+4The people a boycott really punishes are the athletes. They've been training for years for this event, and to let politics ruin that just isn't right.
- iiDLii, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3***** em - if they had any moral standards they would be boycotting anyway
- letitbleed62, on 03/19/2008, -2/+2don't be a dumbass
- hubbard67, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1the west seems to love placing a higher value on the lives of its own people
"they athletes have been training years for this event, the tibetans' and the sudanese's freedom can wait, they wont get violent, right...?"- toxicshok, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1every country places a higher value on the lives of its own people
- cjshamrock, on 03/19/2008, -1/+0well then the olympics should be held somewhere else just to show them whos the boss. the world vs chinese gvnmt
- iiDLii, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3***** em - if they had any moral standards they would be boycotting anyway
- harveywalbanger, on 03/18/2008, -7/+2But if they free tibet, who will make the lead painted toys they sell at Walmart?
- HenvY, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3I don't know if you know this, but Tibet is not an industrial hub.
- nationalist, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1non-tibetans?
- MonarchWastxD, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Umm... Like everything we have is made in China... just look - it's scary.
- diggadigga, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Boycotting the TV won't do anything. You have to boycott the products, and make it public. Make the companies aware of the blowback for supporting the Olympics.
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -3/+4I wonder where this was taken, i'm not sure if it is China. Remeber the pictures of the riot, the one thing i noticed was that none of the pictures of police assulting rioters were in China but they were all in France, and that monk seemed to be holding a paper written in some form of latin language and also the protester is holding up a "Free Tibet" sign in english. not something that the monks would hold in China.
Also i don't get how peaceful the protests could of been if they were fighting with their own people (Tibetans not police) and burning their shops. I thought monks set fire to themselves and not other people.
But hey digg me down for being rational.- daanr, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3They might hold an English sign to make themselves heard outside Tibet
- chenyu768, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3actually just found out it was Nepal, so i was right.
- iiDLii, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2no your still wrong - Nepal /= France (and they don't speak english in either so wtf?)
- Sogladtobehere, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2Who claimed it was in China? The Digg title is Free Tibet. The picture is of a monk, and the sign in the back says Free Tibet, I am Digging for a free Tibet. Now, of course, Tibet is being politically ruled by China, so naturally, China is going to come up in the comments and such, but I don't see where the author actually claims this was in China (or Tibet).
- daanr, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3They might hold an English sign to make themselves heard outside Tibet
- donkeybat64, on 03/19/2008, -1/+3this is the absolutely most ignorant and immature comment, you have probbly only heard one side of the story, just like when the us goverment invaded iraq for "weapons of mass destruction" OIL? look at the death counts in iraq, nobody said those? you think america has not done its share of bad deeds? really? if you know nothing about history, america has dominated most of south america, and annexed many other territories, some not peacefully, did you ever hear those? did you ever hear about nuclear testing on american citizens living in unite states? no you ignorant bastard.
this is the third "free tibet" post in 1 week, what the hell, seriously think about it ignorant, egoistic fools, have you ever thought about it? have you ever actually thought about the whole situation? FREE TIBET ! BOYCOTT CHINA! i cannot silence you children but there are some people that have common sense , and i thank those people. But the people that post these things just want to get diggs, thats the ONLY reason they do this, thy dont care about tibet, THEY PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS.
you all have only heard one side of the story, some of these tibetans actually bombed chinese buildings and markets, killing INNOCENT chinese civilians, realy? i bet you didnt know about that one, what does that remind you of, and where did that lead america, war in iraq.- hubbard67, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1"you all have only heard one side of the story, some of these tibetans actually bombed chinese buildings and markets, killing INNOCENT chinese civilians, realy?"
you seem to think they do these things for fun, terrorism is done out of desperation, they (like the palestinians, for instance) have been crushed by the foot of a more powerful country for years and this is natural human reaction --> desperation --> terrorism
the way to stop it is to be fair, try f**king dialog instead of labeling them as terrorists and isolating them, it just fuels the violence - tibetalive, on 03/19/2008, -0/+3I am a Tibetan born in exile and I have my relatives in Tibet. Now if I say all the things about Tibet when I have not seen, it might be prejudgment. When I get calls from my relatives in Tibet and hear all the desperation from them I really feel the pain. Now I would tell you something on behalf of my relatives who feel second class citizen in their own land.
Genocide is happening in Tibet and has gained momentum ever since that new railway line was built. New York Times reported that the train is packed going into Tibet and it returns back with high vacancy. Now this does not happen a couple of days but it is the same story almost every day. So we can well conceive as to how long it might take for Tibet to extinct. The reason why the Han Chinese are coming into Tibet is because the Chinese govt. is giving them incentives to move into Tibet. The Tibetans are with no jobs whereby the jobs are given to the Chinese. Chinese are banning teaching Tibetan language in Tibetan Schools but they teach Chinese. Tibetan flag and the Picture of The Dalai Lama is illegal.
I could go on and on but, I hope at least these facts would make you think twice. The best thing you could do is visit Tibet. I wish I could guide you to Tibet but, the Chinese consulate refuses to give visas to Tibetans who are loyal to the Dalai Lama. We have been asking the Chinese to give us a genuine autonomy and tried having dialog but, they refuse to engage in dialog. So how can we start? Frustration has mounted and for that matter Tibetans are taking to the street. I am sorry for the loss of lives and property damages but, the world only seems to care if violence is involved. We have sought non-violence and peace but, it don't seem to be taking us anywhere. I hope with you and your friends urging your leaders to help Tibet might bring light to Tibet.
Thanks you.- geoman2k, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1great post! much better than just yelling "boycott boycott boycott"
- hubbard67, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1"you all have only heard one side of the story, some of these tibetans actually bombed chinese buildings and markets, killing INNOCENT chinese civilians, realy?"
- Wade, on 03/19/2008, -3/+7MUSHROOM, MUSHROOM!
- blitzkriegpunk, on 03/19/2008, -3/+2OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH A SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!
- int19h, on 03/19/2008, -2/+2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOxR7rTYuSI
- almightyzam, on 03/19/2008, -3/+1scuba steve, damn you!!
AAAHHH
BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
- sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2While we are at it, BOYCOTT oil. China is the primary sponsor of the Sudanese government which is killing off the people of DARFUR. China is providing the funds through the purchasing rights for building infrastructure to support its long term oil needs in Sudan. These pipelines run through the villages of the people in DARFUR. The Chinese don't want their hands stained with blood so they pressure the Sudanese government to clear them out. The Sudanese government doesn't want to take responsibility either so it offers weapons and money to the Janjaweed militia to do their dirty work for them. That money comes from the blood oil cartel sponsored by yours truly, China.
- HardChargerxxx, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2Absolutely right on! US boycott of Moscow Olympics in 1980 is a kick-ass precedent.
The PLA is going to put down this "unpleasantness" with extreme prejudice. Unfortunately, I think Tibet and Darfur will be over the horizon and off the radar by the opening ceremony in 08/08.
Coddling dictators/MFN bitches! - roberts1111, on 03/19/2008, -1/+3boycotting will only hurt the athletes who spent the past four years for this opportunity. For some, it will be the last time that they get to compete in the Olympics. Plus, it would be interesting to see how far China have developed over the last half a decade. I think it will be the most interesting Olympics in the past 20 years. China have spent 100billion on construction alone for Olympics in Beijing, some of the buildings are just cool... You are not a geek if you don't wanna see it.
Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIDrKjvc9bk- superdoofus, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2i want to see a performance by the trained group of rare yangtze river dolphins they have!
oh wait...
- superdoofus, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2i want to see a performance by the trained group of rare yangtze river dolphins they have!
- chard, on 03/22/2008, -0/+11 billion Chinese have nothing to do with what is going on in Tibet... Why give them issues and propaganda for their government to use against Tibet and the rest of the world by boycotting the Olympics? Besides with that many people from the out side you could do allot more raising awareness to rest of China by going and such.
Olympics aren't in Tibet they are in Beijing.
http://www.dalailama.com/ - judychung1980, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0digg.com/politics/Mexico_reconquers_Califor ...
- bgale246, on 03/18/2008, -11/+89I won't be watching. I know im only one person, but I won't be watching.
- countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -59/+35Free Tibet
"I'll take it"
"China I have something you might want, but it's gonna cost ya... thats right... all the tea."- cardshark69, on 03/18/2008, -7/+30Hey! I know that line!
in fact we all do, so shut the ***** up- countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -34/+0Why should I have any sympathy for these guys, the dala lama is catered to hand and foot, and all they do is metatate, they contribute nothing to society in general and I would much rather have a atheist country with common sense preside over this troubled region.
- SeaweedWater, on 03/18/2008, -0/+15How does one 'metetate'?
- countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -24/+0Awww... You found a spelling error, good for you!
- BoneheadFarker, on 03/18/2008, -0/+11@countmischief
There were several spelling mistakes, actually. Which is surprising, since there's a handy "Check Spelling" button... - countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -9/+2Actually there were only two: meditate and Dalai. By the way don't criticize me when you can't even properly format your sentences.
- serif69, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3It's when one meditates about meditating.
- BoneheadFarker, on 03/18/2008, -2/+2@countmischief
Why should I have any sympathy for these guys? The Dalai Llama is catered to hand and foot. All they do is meditate. They contribute nothing to society in general, and I would much rather have an atheist *country*(??? People can preside, not countries) with common sense preside over this troubled region.
Fixed that for you, for the most part.
So exactly which one of us has issues with spelling and grammar? - swicken, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1BoneheadFarker, I think there might actually be a job somewhere to translate for people like count online. I don't know where, but you'd probably be a good candidate.
Maybe then language won't separate the intelligent and the...... counts of the world. - int19h, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Just say the word repeatedly, it's recursive meditation.
- Slavidskis, on 03/18/2008, -0/+9The Dalai* lama has only 1 bowl of rice every day. Oh, but yes the rice is catered... He also travels around the world to preach peace which is more than many places could say. Yes, shame on them for having a religion that they follow! Shame! This region is troubled because of the "atheist country" that presides over Tibet by the way.
I found a spelling error too. - artisresistance, on 03/18/2008, -0/+4Obviously you have no spiritual value. You fail to realize that without this, the world becomes a very cold and dirty place.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Oooh, an atheist Family Guy fan! You must be a lot of fun at parties.
- ch4os1337, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Actually Buddhism has no god... so they are atheists. Its not really a religion at all, More of a way of life.
- SeaweedWater, on 03/18/2008, -0/+15How does one 'metetate'?
- countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -34/+0Why should I have any sympathy for these guys, the dala lama is catered to hand and foot, and all they do is metatate, they contribute nothing to society in general and I would much rather have a atheist country with common sense preside over this troubled region.
- luke16, on 03/18/2008, -13/+5well i found it funny, it's from family guy if you didn't know
/bury- countmischief, on 03/18/2008, -6/+2Thank you, a cartoon connoisseur with a little sense of humor, too many people take things too seriously.
- rz8472, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3It's all the fortune cookies, not all the tea.
- realityr, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1some times you must learn to just STFUP!!!
- Shellwhispers, on 03/19/2008, -1/+0No.
- chrisfrye11, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Dong! Where is my automobile?
- vervalsing, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1I dugg this up just because that was the first thing that popped into my head too, and I haven't even watched Family Guy in months.
- cardshark69, on 03/18/2008, -7/+30Hey! I know that line!
- SeaweedWater, on 03/18/2008, -24/+79I'll take 3, please.
- RexMaxus, on 03/18/2008, -7/+4Sorry, we only got one left.
- booshack, on 03/18/2008, -10/+5Another family guy rip off joke (free to bet)
- Myonosken, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4??
No the joke is free Tibet, as in a free tibet.- booshack, on 03/18/2008, -6/+1You are clueless. But I guess family guy wasn't really made for people who know their cartoon comedy, or have a brain.
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -1/+5People just like you!
The joke is "free tibet" than peter says "i'll take it" as in he bought tibet for free, than he runs off to sell tibet to china "hey china yea I got somthing you want"
Before you go insulting people who correct you.. you should make sure that you were at least right... or you just make yourself look like even more of a fool.
- Myonosken, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4??
- BurnTees, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1http://www.burntees.com/index.cgi/politics.cultcla ...
- diskit, on 03/18/2008, -4/+22Hello, China? I have something you want... but it'll cost you!
That's right... ALL the tea! - Trollmaster, on 03/18/2008, -2/+4i see what you did there.
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1There's only one left
- Insomnya3AM, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2What is this: Woot?
- judychung1980, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0digg.com/politics/Mexico_reconquers_California_Absolut_drinks_to_that
VIVA MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREE CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!!!- mtmozart, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1judychung1980
Just joined Digg on March 16th, 2008 ....oddly.
- mtmozart, on 04/10/2008, -0/+1judychung1980
- gummih, on 03/18/2008, -11/+133That is an awesome picture - I'm willing to bet that it will get a number of awards. AND it will help raise awareness about Tibet. As in, do you know what the protests are about?
- luke16, on 03/18/2008, -1/+7It will certainly be memorable
- Rahodeb, on 03/18/2008, -4/+12Awareness of issues has never stopped China in the past. Remember Tienamen Square? Money wins, and there's lots of it invested in both the Olympics and China right now. Unfortunately, this picture will do nothing.
- Smuikas, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4In fact, most of our government loans are owned by china... so good luck getting our government to do anything about it, lest china call in the debts.
- Arkaris01, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2With the sliding dollar China could not afford to repatriate their money. They sold goods to us at less than 4% margins and the dollar has already slid closer to 30%. If they repatriated their money from us their banks would collapse. The Chinese currency would plummet in value and instead of buying oil at $120 a barrel (higher than the average cost of oil I know but you have to factor exchange rates) they would be buying oil at $150+ and they cannot afford that. They would be just like Japan has been for the past 20 years.
- Smuikas, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4In fact, most of our government loans are owned by china... so good luck getting our government to do anything about it, lest china call in the debts.
- Asdfglpwglion, on 03/18/2008, -3/+12I think the protests are about how China conquered the place back in the 50s - but failed to treat the inhabitants nice, so that even after two generations they still don't like it. I have not studied it though, so I could be wrong.
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -0/+8Welcome to the internets... may I guide you to check out our most beloved general knowledge center. Meet wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_unrest_in_Tibet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet
- suzywang3000, on 03/18/2008, -127/+24you American mind you ***** business. Do China tell you "free Iraq"?
- Arcesius, on 03/18/2008, -11/+111A LOT of Americans want us out of Iraq, too. We have no right to be in Iraq; China has no right to be in Tibet.
- khail250, on 03/18/2008, -27/+8who are you to say China has no right to be in Tibet, what do you actually know about China and Tibet, besides the movie 7 years in Tibet.
Do you know where it is? like most American's that want to get in other peoples business most do not know where Iraq is, and for this human rights stuff, do not know where Tibet, Darfur or North Korea is on a map- Arcesius, on 03/18/2008, -1/+12My god, do you stereotype much? I know where each of those are, except for Darfur, which, I'm afraid, all I know is that it's in Eastern Africa somewhere - methinks mid-north...
edit: was gonna guess Sudan... and would have been right... *snaps fingers* damn!- xtraa, on 04/03/2008, -1/+1If China think they have the right to beat up some Tibetians and take over the land, I think they also have no problem with it, if we simply beat the shiz out of china and capture it.
Well, I'm fine with that, let's bring it on.
- xtraa, on 04/03/2008, -1/+1If China think they have the right to beat up some Tibetians and take over the land, I think they also have no problem with it, if we simply beat the shiz out of china and capture it.
- rficwizard, on 03/18/2008, -0/+16The Tibetans don't seem to think that China should rule them. That's good enough for me, if it's true.
- BESTenemy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+2Good thing our own puppets never complain about the regimes they install in countries we invade.
- gal3on64, on 03/18/2008, -1/+9The Hawaiians don't think America should rule them.
http://www.hawaii-nation.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_sovereignty_ ...- PueSi, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4FREE HAWAII!
- tst1212, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1Then let the pussies fight for it!
- Railz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3I don't think Long Island should be part of New York, but thats just cause I'm bored and need to protest something.
- Chrispyc1211, on 03/18/2008, -0/+6Listen, go get ***** at those of us that re-elected Bush and such. I hate to stereotype as well, but the general leanings of Digg are very libertarian; whether the members are conservative or liberal, they tend to be for civil rights protection and that sort of thing. Therefore, this community is not THE most supportive place for any time one nation subjugates another. That means the majority of us don't support the occupation of Iraq, the Sudanese government's genocide of Darfur civilians, or China's refusal to let Tibet govern itself. That's how our nation was founded, and the purest patriot would support the freedom of any nation.
...and yes, disagree with Iraq.
- Arcesius, on 03/18/2008, -1/+12My god, do you stereotype much? I know where each of those are, except for Darfur, which, I'm afraid, all I know is that it's in Eastern Africa somewhere - methinks mid-north...
- Emnsta, on 03/18/2008, -5/+5Has no right? Says who?
I hate the PRC, but ***** like you don't understand the situation- Railz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Nor you. High Horse, get off of it.
- tim04, on 03/18/2008, -6/+5Tibet has been a part of China since the 13th Century. This was during the fu*king crusades. If China has to let go of Tibet, then the US should give America back to the Natives. I'm pretty sure Native Americans aren't too happy about encroachment onto their lands. I know the Natives up here in Canada aren't. This goes for Australia as well.
- Antwan718, on 03/18/2008, -6/+4Last time i checked the native Americans have casinos on the lands that the "white man" gave back to them, with that money any person who has prove able 1/4 Seminole heritage for example gets 3k a month + 3k per kid they make
- tim04, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2even so, 3k a month gives gets you 36k a year. Not much of a trade off considering many Natives up here in Canada are suffering from alcohol and drug abuse. I'm sure their culture and people would benefit a lot more if things returned to before. Unfortunately, that would never happen because the US can't just pack up and leave.
China can and should give Tibet more autonomy, similar to the situation in Hong Kong where democracy is slowly being implemented. Just screaming "get the fu*k outta Tibet" is not going to help anyone, and will only anger the Chinese since they feel like they have had 700+ years worth of claim to the area. A period much longer than N. America had been discovered by the Europeans.
- dharmaviira, on 03/18/2008, -2/+2What do you know of Chinese history? If you follow the Chinese logic that Tibet is a part of china, then Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Korea, Burma, all of Mongolia and a lot of other territory would also be a part of china. But they are not, why, because those borders are from historical kingdoms. The Han and other farming peoples that rule modern china were actually the subjects of the Mongolians and Manchus for many many many centuries. it is unfortunate that 1 billion people have been brainwashed and do not know their own history. Tibet was part of or loosely aligned those large kingdoms, when the Mongolians and Manchus were in power. In the modern era Tibet was free until it was conquered by the PRC, and subsequently destroyed during the mindless violence and hysteria of the cultural revolution.
- Railz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1This ^
According to 13Th century logic, China (Mongols) should pretty much be ruling all of Asia, then some. - yip144, on 03/24/2008, -0/+0Ya, thanks for the history lesson.
If we follow the western logic then we would have conquered, colonized and enslaved all those country/people you mentioned above long before.- dharmaviira, on 03/31/2008, -0/+0Um... I don't see anybody enslaved by any western country. China is the one opressing millions of people, systematically destroying their culture. Many tibetan children can't even speak their own language anymore. Religion is supressed, free thought, speech and assembly are supressed. Thousands flee every year. You don't see many people fleeing countries here in the west. There is a difference. What they are doing is wrong.
- Railz, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1This ^
- tim04, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1you want sooner than 13th Century? alright. Since the Qing dynasty that last until early 1900s, Tibet was part of China, albeit since it was located outside central China, it wasn't governed as tightly. Then the British came in and screwed things up and killed a few thousand Tibetans in the process. Later, however, in 1906/07, the British admitted to recognizing China's domain over Tibet at the Anglo-Chinese and Anglo-Russian conventions.
Then after that, WWI, WWII and the Chinese Civil War confused things up, but Tibet never became a sovereign country. After the PRC took power, they went in and made sure that Tibet wasn't going anywhere. Happy? This is absolutely NOTHING like Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.- dharmaviira, on 03/31/2008, -0/+0Even if there is historical legitimacy to china's posesion of tibet, which I don't believe there is, what they are doing to the Tibetan people is really wrong headed and is having very negative consequences for the people living there today. People flee every year, risking life and limb to escape. Peoples religion, culture and language are being destroyed for a political and ideolagical agenda. There is a real lack of human rights and dignity occuring right now that needs to be stoped. Bottom line, what china is doing today is wrong, period. All human beings have a natural right to free thought, speech and culture. Any government that supresses people is in the wrong. People don't flee from free countries. People flee from oppression and danger. China is wrong and needs to change policy immediately before more peoples lives are destroyed
- ggarlic, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0hey,sucker,do you really know anything about china and it's culture.
do you know this picture was taken not in tibet but a country nearby china
next time before you manage to leave a comment,please look into it first
shame on you- dharmaviira, on 03/31/2008, -0/+0And do you know why there are now so many tibetans in nepal and india? People don't risk their lives, leave their homes and communities for no reason. They had to flee because of what the chinese are doing to them in their country. What china is doing to the tibetan people is wrong. If it was right, people wouldn't be fleeing for their lives (obviously) Shame on you for supporting the supression of other human beings for political and ideological reasons.
- khail250, on 03/18/2008, -27/+8who are you to say China has no right to be in Tibet, what do you actually know about China and Tibet, besides the movie 7 years in Tibet.
- kahakauai, on 03/18/2008, -14/+32P.S - ***** you suzywang
- sungoddess808, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1I could not have said it any better! =)
- godzillaWax, on 03/18/2008, -7/+37I thought Chinas firewall was supposed to keep the internet from ***** like this one?
- Buddhaismybuddy, on 03/18/2008, -7/+17Why doesn't China MIND IT'S OWN BUSINESS and stop ***** with Tibetans.
- ggarlic, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0why don't you eat your *****
- Mcdz, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0...Why don't you mind your own business and stop ***** with China?
- ggarlic, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0why don't you eat your *****
- Asdfglpwglion, on 03/18/2008, -9/+16Check back in 50-odd years, if the US still has military domination over Iraq, then that will be a perfectly good argument.
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3Mccain says they will be there for 100...
- kahakauai, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1That is because Mccain is an irritable douchebag...
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3Mccain says they will be there for 100...
- ziptnf, on 03/18/2008, -29/+12you wan' whi rie or fry rie?
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -12/+8yes, resort to ignorant ***** because your dumbass has nothng better to say. ***** hillbilly ***** go ***** yourself or better yet one of your cousins.
- skyroket, on 03/18/2008, -6/+1You wan fly lice?
- Spanky209, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
- hybridcreation, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2I love how ignorant foreigners always go to the "hillbilly" and "***** your cousin" blasts. Shows how little they really know about us.
- jc801, on 03/18/2008, -12/+8yes, resort to ignorant ***** because your dumbass has nothng better to say. ***** hillbilly ***** go ***** yourself or better yet one of your cousins.
- theAlice, on 03/18/2008, -4/+5I don't "*****" business. sorry, i don't swing that way
- MomoTheCow, on 03/18/2008, -5/+5So much evil has been allowed to happen throughout the course of human history on account of good, smart people "minding their own ***** business".
Also, I really *would* like to see China telling the U.S. to get out of Iraq, but it won't because the Party has too much business at stake.- MrSlumberjack, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1nope.
- hybridcreation, on 03/18/2008, -2/+11I'm American and would love the US to get out of Iraq. How about you and Tibet?
- tim04, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1well if America had owned Iraq for hundreds of years, then sure, it'll be a fair trade
- hybridcreation, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1How exactly does one country "own" another? By occupying it forcefully for a set amount of time?
- Mcdz, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0Hybridcreation... How did the US come about? By occupying it forcefully for a set amount of time?
- ggarlic, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0do you know tibet has been a part of china since 1247 AD and US was built hundreds of years later
so US don't have the right to comment on this
do chinese ever shout :free hawaii,free california?
in the 1920s,1930s,1940s,see what US did to hurt china
- tim04, on 03/19/2008, -1/+1well if America had owned Iraq for hundreds of years, then sure, it'll be a fair trade
- roadtripguy, on 03/18/2008, -3/+6Hey Suzi, why don't you tell us why exactly China should NOT give back Tibet since they took it by force from an unarmed populace who's only wish was autonomy. Give us ONE good reason that isn't what you've been spoon fed by "The Party."
- an0nym0uz, on 03/18/2008, -3/+5http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo&eurl=ht ...
- funkyjunk3, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Propagandize much?
- funkyjunk3, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3If the Chinese are so keen in keeping Tibet, why do they shot Tibetans like dogs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkMcj4vQtRU- tim04, on 03/19/2008, -2/+1great, thats productive. Lets show a 1940's video. It's actually the only video evidence that I've seen of this happening.
- harveywalbanger, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3But if they free tibet, who will make the lead painted toys they sell at Walmart?
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1The same people who make them now.
- tst1212, on 03/18/2008, -3/+5Suzy you talk real tough being from the US, good thing you aren't from China! Your father would probably have killed you under China's One Child policy!
- wwkkmm1988, on 03/23/2008, -0/+0if we aren't under One Child Policy, then the president of USA will be a chinese.
- fadedsepiatone, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3i agree with you suzy, but one thing though, iraq is not part of the US. but tibet is part of china. so why don't you americans mind your own business about human rights when you violate them NOT in your own country but in OTHER countries?
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Tibet is NOT part of china, tibet was conquered by china... kind of like iraq was conquered by the US...
- fadedsepiatone, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0how about FREE the NATIVE AMERICANS? and how about give them back their land instead of giving them little piece of their land?
so using your logic, the US land isn't really the US?
i don't mean to make anyone angry.
i just want to point out that this is not the only thing that is wrong with the society. i don't see how people can be so hypocritical, they live on land their forefathers have conqured(through bloody battles) which over time grow together and unite as one country(or some parts don't feel like being united anymore like Texas and Quebec).
how do countries form? they conquer. i'm not agreeing with violence but it's how it's always been in history.
besides i think this picture is a great picture from a photographer's point of view, however politically i feel this is a propaganda and only shows one side of the story. i think we should all go back and dig up history books before we say things offensive to a certain culture. sometimes i feel guilty of reading something that is so horrible about another country and get all hot blooded, and then i realize it's only a one sided story. as "unbiased" as the newpaper and media claim they are, we are the one responsible for doing necessary research and making a sensible judgement. i don't think we have the right to say something truly horrible about a country and its government until we really experience it for ourselves. - hybridcreation, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1"how about FREE the NATIVE AMERICANS? and how about give them back their land instead of giving them little piece of their land? "
I would love to. It embarrasses and saddens me that my ancestors stole this country from the Native Americans.
- fadedsepiatone, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0how about FREE the NATIVE AMERICANS? and how about give them back their land instead of giving them little piece of their land?
- Anilot, on 04/11/2008, -0/+0I agree with you, fadedsepiatone.
Do your guys know what kind of life that the people in tibet had when tibet hasnt been literated?
tibet used to be a country of slavery, and even tibet was literated in the1950s by mao, people who had strong power still used a cruel way to rule people.
before you say "FREE Tibet", try to be more familiar with the history of tibet.
and be sure that after "free tibet", the people there will SURELY have a better life, not just be thrown back to the hell !!!
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Tibet is NOT part of china, tibet was conquered by china... kind of like iraq was conquered by the US...
- tst1212, on 03/18/2008, -6/+4Hey Suzy, shut up and get my fortune cookie.
- Drax0n, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1Suzywang = Waste of oxygen
- thaker, on 03/18/2008, -3/+4you American mind you ***** business. Do China tell you "free Iraq"?
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Free Iraq?
I thought that's what we did. - Shellwhispers, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah, china doesn't, but other countries do.
Its our duty as citizens of the world to keep an eye out on other countries and what they do so everyone can be held accountable for their actions. As an American, i would expect the same from the chinese people. Unfortunately they do not have freedom of speech, so we will never know what china's people have to say to us about Iraq. (or tibet for that matter)
- Arcesius, on 03/18/2008, -11/+111A LOT of Americans want us out of Iraq, too. We have no right to be in Iraq; China has no right to be in Tibet.
- bluezinc, on 03/18/2008, -35/+6If only China had a brain, dee-dee dee doo-doo-doo-doo. (Wizard of Oz)
- Arcesius, on 03/18/2008, -28/+283Seriously, boycott China.
- RomeyRome, on 03/18/2008, -8/+32Then turn off all your electronics.
- daedalous, on 03/19/2008, -2/+3Using something you already have != buying chinese products.
- WNW3, on 03/18/2008, -6/+21But then where would I get all my stuff?
- stretch611, on 03/18/2008, -4/+13More than likely, South Korea.
- Cerebral, on 03/18/2008, -0/+4I don't think we want to do that... ever driven a Kia?
- Tetraca, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2There are plenty of countries there to pick up the slack. Point to any country in South and Central America, or, alternatively, on the Korean peninsula, or the Thai peninsula. Take that, add parts of Africa (some are very unstable and in conflict, and unattractive to business. Don't worry, someone will fix those countries soon.), and add India, and you've got every country that can take up China's slack.
We already trade with some of these countries extensively. - Seantacular, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1give Taiwan another chance.
- Xela21, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Vietnam
- stretch611, on 03/18/2008, -4/+13More than likely, South Korea.
- luke16, on 03/18/2008, -9/+17Boycotting China is an impossible task
- jggr, on 03/18/2008, -4/+5Indeed. I challenge anyone here to boycott Chinese products for just a day. Just one day. Just to see if you can do it. I bet you can't.
- rotten777, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3I do it all the time. Just because you can't imagine a day without your electronics device, doesn't mean no one else can. It is great fun disappearing into the mountains and going hiking/biking/fishing/camping/etc. with all my American/Canadian/home made products.
- RomeyRome, on 03/18/2008, -1/+12That mountain you climbed; imported from China.
- boester, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6That fish that you fished; came from China
- mahdaeng, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1I already am.
- mahdaeng, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1Oh. You mean I'm not?
Thank you, Digg community for pointing that out to me.
- mahdaeng, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1Oh. You mean I'm not?
- rotten777, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3I do it all the time. Just because you can't imagine a day without your electronics device, doesn't mean no one else can. It is great fun disappearing into the mountains and going hiking/biking/fishing/camping/etc. with all my American/Canadian/home made products.
- furbyboy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1I dont need things man.....im Buddhist...OH *****...the Chinese are coming for me!!!
- mahdaeng, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1Wrong.
- uriman, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2you can if you go into the forest and live off the land
- heypetray, on 03/18/2008, -2/+1Yeah? How does Chuck Norris do it?
Oh wait...
- jggr, on 03/18/2008, -4/+5Indeed. I challenge anyone here to boycott Chinese products for just a day. Just one day. Just to see if you can do it. I bet you can't.
- arrjka, on 03/18/2008, -5/+4Just like we boycotted Cuba, right.
- furbyboy, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3Silly person.....China doesnt make good Cigars!
- sickrubik, on 03/18/2008, -1/+37This is why I've been using paper plates.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+4That took me a minute. Well played.
- tst1212, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Are they Chinet?
- sickrubik, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1*narrows eyes*
Well played sir. Well played indeed.
- sickrubik, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1*narrows eyes*
- Oysterville, on 03/18/2008, -3/+7We owe them too much money, and they provide too much of our consumer goods, to make it likely.
Boycotting the Moscow Olympics was different. We didn't really owe them anything. China, on the other hand, is partially financing our bloodlust in Iraq through financing our national debt. They are also producing a dizzying amount of goods that we use day in and day out. They have Uncle Sam by his short curlies.- mahdaeng, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2[[We owe them too much money, and they provide too much of our consumer goods, to make it likely.]]
On a personal level, though, you can choose to buy the more costly (and probably higher quality) items made somewhere other than China.- heypetray, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Yeah, but we would STILL owe them money... I suggest we sell Florida
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Bad call. We'd have to spend all of the money to rebuild the Kennedy Space center some place else.
- heypetray, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Yeah, but we would STILL owe them money... I suggest we sell Florida
- mahdaeng, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2[[We owe them too much money, and they provide too much of our consumer goods, to make it likely.]]
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -6/+5no... There is a billion people in China you can't "boycott" the entire country. And it is individuals in the government who are doing this - the average citizen in China has absolutely no control over what is happening.
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4Is this not true? Or why have I been digged down?
- peaceninja, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2you're probably being buried because:
point 1 - yes you can boycott an entire country despite the number of people
point 2 - this is true for any nation, the individuals in power are the ones that control policy, the average citizen in any nation has little control over them, particularly in china due to the way that dissension is suppressed
- peaceninja, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2you're probably being buried because:
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4Is this not true? Or why have I been digged down?
- vvortex3, on 03/18/2008, -3/+2If the olympics does happen in China, just make a scene and boo everyone that is competing representing China.
- ciaran036, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Why would we do that? That would be highly unfair on those participating, and especially those in China who actually DO care about human rights.
- Piipe, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3umm that's near quite impossible. my family is trying to though. we generally try to buy stuff not made in China if we can, it's quite fun actually.
- klick37, on 03/19/2008, -0/+3Good call. Our economy isn't ***** enough yet.
- Zindrix, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1I still do not understand why China wants to keep hold of Tibet so bad. Honestly the region is scarcely populated (comparatively) and I'm sure it is not of much benefit to their economy either.
- klick37, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1Tibet's chief export is wisdom and smiles.
- RomeyRome, on 03/18/2008, -8/+32Then turn off all your electronics.
- tube4music, on 03/18/2008, -21/+6Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
- uriman, on 03/18/2008, -0/+6woof
- BN2L, on 03/18/2008, -19/+429I find it unbelievable that the Chinese government are now accusing the Dalai Lama of orchestrating the violence. I mean the guy won the 1989 Nobel peace prize specifically for his consistent opposition to the use of violence. Sounds like typical chinese lies and propaganda to me.
- bromac, on 03/18/2008, -6/+72War is peace. Black is white. Monks are violent.
- godzillaWax, on 03/18/2008, -0/+10Eastasia is eurasia.
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2War is peace
- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -4/+4The monk was injured in a clash with police in Nepal. So yes, they are not exactly peaceful nowadays.
- godzillaWax, on 03/18/2008, -0/+10Eastasia is eurasia.
- ArchangelZLT, on 03/18/2008, -7/+8You are extraordinarily lucky that you don't need to sit in a classroom and listen to somebody bitching about "western imperialism", "class struggle over capitalists" etc. Not unlike me.
- uriman, on 03/18/2008, -0/+7argue with the prof. it's called class participation
- daguito81, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3it's called failing out of school in some countries
- xedicate, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2When you grew up going to school that teaches you that propaganda, and people around you truly believe in it, and your internet and news medias were censored most of your life, it's hard to even want to arguing with your prof over this.
I'm from Hong Kong, and every time I ever touched the topic of Tilbet with my friends from China, I'm surprised and frightened by their fanatic believe that:
1. Tilbet is rightfully part of China, and it would be absolutely unforgivably wrong to ever say it should/has a right to be independent.
2. The reports of huge number of death were exaggeration popularized by western propaganda, there were only a few hurt accidentally in the crowd.
3. Tibetan Buddhism is a cult, and should be wiped out (not THAT many people sprout that idea, but the few usually-sane-people that says that scares me)
These are usually calm and sane people that managed to bypass the great firewall of China, reads articles in English, but refute basically everything they read in the MSM. I can't imagine how the usual less educated/resourceful Chinese citizen think...
(I don't have any idea who Tilbet *should* belong to, the history is complicated and I am not invested enough in the subject to research deeper. And I am sure the MSM's side of story is one-sided also, but it disturbs me to see how people actually believes the obvious lies spew by the Chinese government... - sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Tibetan Buddhism > $cientology
- uriman, on 03/18/2008, -0/+7argue with the prof. it's called class participation
- drastik21, on 03/18/2008, -13/+7Any one can get a Nobel peace prize now and days. Al Gore got one for making a damn slide show.
- delmar14, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6Yaser Arafat got one just for promising to stop killing Jews...which he never actually did.
- sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1He did stop killing Jews, he just told someone else to do it.
- GhostyBoy, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Henry Kissinger got one for all the "peace" he has caused.
- delmar14, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6Yaser Arafat got one just for promising to stop killing Jews...which he never actually did.
- nbyn, on 03/18/2008, -4/+7Should we ask Chechnya about the 1990 Nobel Prize winner Mikhail Gorbachev?
- ivansusanin, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2***** chechnya
- phrenzy, on 03/18/2008, -1/+0chechclear.avi
- min4, on 03/19/2008, -1/+0that video made a lasting enough impression on me that i remember the filename.
good show, sir.
- min4, on 03/19/2008, -1/+0that video made a lasting enough impression on me that i remember the filename.
- pingish, on 03/18/2008, -4/+8Yassar Arafat won the Nobel peace prize as well. What is your point?
- MrKraut, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1Do you really want to compare Arafat with the Dalai Lama??? Really?
He's the closest thing we have to Ghandi nowadays (ok, there's no one really like Ghandi, but still...).
Journalist: What do you think of the western civilization?
Ghandi: I think it's a wonderful idea!
We need a couple of more Ghandis in our World- nayajhen, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4people really need to learn how to spell the Mahatma's name... It is Gandhi, NOT Ghandi or Gandy or Ghandy
- Bogus283, on 03/19/2008, -0/+2So you guys are on a first name basis now? How's that working out for you?
- sovietninja, on 03/19/2008, -0/+4Can I haz sum moar Chandi plz?
- nayajhen, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4people really need to learn how to spell the Mahatma's name... It is Gandhi, NOT Ghandi or Gandy or Ghandy
- MrKraut, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1Do you really want to compare Arafat with the Dalai Lama??? Really?
- Kanidia, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3No you got it wrong, it's called "telling the truth with Chinese characteristics"
- Beijing08Facade, on 03/18/2008, -2/+3This is how Beijing has been playing with His Holliness ever since China Brutally invaded Tibet with its "People Liberation Army"
- chenyu768, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1Ok lets get this straight, if you mean controlling him, telling him what to or not to do, and lets say hmm created him (Dali Lama) thens its been going on for like a thousand years. And since your so into research, you mean when Tibeta tried to secede from China with CIA backed arms, and China came in and destroyed that rebellion and stripped the Lama of its power and set up a system of government where you Lamas arent at the center of and can no longer take advantage of the people.
Another question how much gold has the Tibetan people given you over the centuries, how lavish is your temples? how many wells have you dug for the people throughout the centuries? how many roads? how much of the gold that you take has ever been given back to the people?? how much land have you taken from them?? How many hundreds of thousands throughout the centuries have you killed when they fail to worship you???? I mean we are talking about facts right???? AND YOU CAN NOT SAY THE PAST DOES NOT MATTER BECAUSE IT IS THIS PAST THAT YOU WANT TO RETURN TO SO YESSSSS IT DOES MATTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS LIKE EAST GERMANY WANTING TO REUNITE BUT UNDER THE OLD NAZI REGIME, NOBODY WOULD OF CELEBRATED!!!!!!!
- chenyu768, on 03/20/2008, -1/+1Ok lets get this straight, if you mean controlling him, telling him what to or not to do, and lets say hmm created him (Dali Lama) thens its been going on for like a thousand years. And since your so into research, you mean when Tibeta tried to secede from China with CIA backed arms, and China came in and destroyed that rebellion and stripped the Lama of its power and set up a system of government where you Lamas arent at the center of and can no longer take advantage of the people.
- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -4/+3Well, Dalai Lama a man of peace, has said he won't ask the people to stop. So, essentially, he is advocating the violence - something a real buddhist monk would not do.
- twitchr, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2There is a difference between protest and violence. Buddhists practice peaceful protest.
- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1He has said he won't ask his people to stop. Monks were seen among the looters. Obviously the monks have nothing against the mass violence against the innocent.
- chenyu768, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2Aw these are the new peaceloving monks, they set fire to other people and properties and not to themselves. call it enlightenment, you can only burn yourself once, but others huh more times than chens in the chinese phonebook.
- Mcdz, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0"Buddhists practice peaceful protest".... in theory
- xedicate, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2He said he'll quit if the violence doesn't stop.
- Wrangler76, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah, he did a 360 in a day because he realized his first statement would destroy his peaceful monk image. An article was goddamn digged about him saying that he wouldn't ask for the people to stop.
NYTIMES:
"The Dalai Lama promised he would not, even though he said he expected the Chinese authorities to put down the protests with force."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/world/asia/16cnd ...
- Wrangler76, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah, he did a 360 in a day because he realized his first statement would destroy his peaceful monk image. An article was goddamn digged about him saying that he wouldn't ask for the people to stop.
- twitchr, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2There is a difference between protest and violence. Buddhists practice peaceful protest.
- rz8472, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2The Dalai Lama has even said that he would be fine if Tibet remained a part of China, and the mere request for religious freedom and real autonomy is good enough for him. Ofc he's not going to get either.
- rmxz, on 03/19/2008, -0/+3And Kissinger (with a colorful history that can be found in Wikipedia) won the Nobel "Peace" Prize in 1973.
- godplaysdnd, on 03/22/2008, -0/+0Nobel Peace Prize doesn't carry much weight these days. They'll pretty much give it
- bromac, on 03/18/2008, -6/+72War is peace. Black is white. Monks are violent.
