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- tbhurst, on 10/12/2008, -4/+133Hopefully this speeds up the development of cost-effective LEDs.
- Madrigalian, on 10/12/2008, -9/+91GE is lobbying to save the research they have done on an incandescent lamp that uses less energy and has a longer lumen life than the Compact Fluorescent and uses no mercury at all in it's envelope. So yeah...
If the incandescent lamp is made illegal then all their research is toast. And so is the "better lamp".
Trust me CF's are not the answer. Neither is ignorance. - tdp301, on 10/12/2008, -1/+69How is my easybake oven supposed to work?
- galeninjapan, on 10/12/2008, -23/+84Some people actually prefer the color temperature of traditional lightbulbs.
- jschau2, on 10/12/2008, -6/+64This is great, but I still worry about disposing these bulbs. Isn't there an issue with the mercury they contain?
- DifferentAngle, on 10/12/2008, -9/+64Why ban a technology? Why not just require certain performance metrics (ie, lumens/watt)?
Banning a technology outright sounds like political posturing *****. - seltaeb4, on 10/12/2008, -3/+56When incandescents are outlawed, only outlaws will use incandescents!
- Sharky35, on 10/12/2008, -1/+50PSST... Hey Buddy, wanna buy some Tungsten?
Sure you're not a cop?
No Dude, I got the good schit! - dha07030, on 10/12/2008, -5/+47Wow people on Digg can even fight about light bulbs.
- kingofinternet, on 10/12/2008, -12/+42you know what releases the most mercury in the u.s.?
burning coal for power.
whining bitches. - Garmonbozzia, on 10/12/2008, -5/+34I have made an effort to switch to CFL's wherever practical, but there are some areas where I simply insist on keeping incandescents, like the kids' rooms. They're too rowdy and if they tip a lamp over, now there's mercury exposure. I think it's dumb to ban incandescents, at least until there are more viable alternatives like OLED.
- irvin666, on 10/12/2008, -10/+39What's next, taxing people for producing CO2?
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2008, -6/+33Regardless of your house lighting, incandescents have more uses than just 60W lamp bulbs.Everything from your refrigerator to your car's glove compartment needs to use incandescent bulbs. Banning them outright is both ignorant and shows lack of foresight.
- Lewie, on 10/12/2008, -3/+29Most European nations have an incredibly strict recycling program. I'm sure if anyone can deal with proper disposal, those countries can.
- chadszinow, on 10/12/2008, -10/+36There are CFL's which simulate the colour of light given off by tradional lightbulbs. As for temperature that's just wasted energy. If you need to heat your home use something other than lightbulbs.
PS Yeh, I know that's not what you meant re temperature. I'm just having a little fun. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2008, -2/+26why is this ignorance being dugg up? lcd monitors don't have incandescent backlights. most have CCFL and new ones use LED.
- ryazwinski, on 10/12/2008, -10/+32What about all the mercury in the CF bulbs??? That can't be good either.
- seltaeb4, on 10/12/2008, -9/+30Fluorescent bulbs would be great if they didn't flicker, weren't ugly, weren't vastly overpriced, worked in dimmers, and didn't provide the quality of light that you'd find in a morgue...
Other than that though, they're great... - hwy9nightkid, on 10/12/2008, -0/+21actually that is what carbon swaps are between nations.
- trustyteen, on 10/12/2008, -8/+28agree! i hate fluorescent lighting
- Aeroboy, on 10/12/2008, -8/+27Precisely. You're going to have to pry the incandescent lightbulb from my cold, dead hands.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+20The US already has passed a bill that will ban the sale of incandescent light bulbs by 2012.
- TopSlacker, on 10/12/2008, -1/+19Sort of. It's like a cross between the United Nations and the United States of America.The countries which make up the European Union have surrendered some of their power to the EU to improve peoples lives. Stuff like the Euro, open borders throughout the EU etc are all co-ordinated by the European Union.
Anything which is passed as EU law is law in all the member nations too. - Drexxle, on 10/12/2008, -5/+20This is the biggest ***** con. We have had these lightbulbs in Aus for quite some time now, they started off lasting longer than normal bulbs by a really long time. Nowadays they only last twice as long. But whats gets me is the landfill factor. With a normal bulb you have a thing glass membrane, an element and a small amount of metal, this easily disintegrates over time. New ones, Plastic bulb, plastic base, plastic everywhere, five times the size of the old lightbulb, chunky plastic landfill waste. Im sick of all this global warming *****, we can each do our part *****. Landclearing cause more than any of it. Big Business causes more of it. It hardly comes to down to us.
- zedkitty, on 10/12/2008, -23/+38There is no excuse except the lobbying of GE etc....
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -3/+18That would be nice, but with incandescent bulbs no longer an option in the free market, why should they make the LEDs cost effective. This is something that the free market should be doing, not a government. Plus, what if you get your power via hydro electric, how is the light bulb causing CO2? Not every power plant is a 1930 coal burning steam plant.
- hollowex, on 10/12/2008, -12/+26I've also heard they are going to reduce the chocolate ration from thirty grams to twenty.
- evilbob333, on 10/12/2008, -5/+18The principle of limited government.....Ahahahahahahaha. Just kidding.
- RNEMESiS42, on 10/12/2008, -0/+13...except that we've had CFL's for years, they're cheaper now than ever before, and they consume 30 percent of an incandescent bulbs energy? LED's are the best solution, but there are still options way better than incandescents that have been around for a while.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+14To be fair, there are some fluorescent bulbs that do put out a good bright white light. Beyond that, they are costly, don't work in dimmers and you forgot to add, "don't really last 7 years as many claim".
- UTKEngineer, on 10/12/2008, -25/+37Intelligence? I hope?
- seltaeb4, on 10/12/2008, -0/+12Wait... I heard that it was being *increased* to twenty...
- jman583, on 10/12/2008, -0/+12http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum ...
- Motocompo, on 10/12/2008, -0/+12Yeah or my creepy crawlers oven?
- asskey, on 10/12/2008, -3/+14Instead they should just tax high energy consumption light bulbs. If the CFs and later on efficient Incandescents are cheaper then the market will do the rest. No need to ban an entire industry.
- busket, on 10/12/2008, -4/+15So GE's pretty good about keeping their "better lamp" a complete secret? I bet they haven't done a lot of PR surrounding their breakthrough incandescent lamps because they didn't want to telegraph their punches.
- sickanimations, on 10/12/2008, -2/+14That's the problem, too many people are too ***** stupid.
- OpCzar, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11Until they burn out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11The light bulb companies in America are waiting for a $700 Billion bailout before they can switch over to non-incandescent bulbs.
- Spuy767, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11I tought that they were cold cathode flourescents?
- Bkaufman, on 10/12/2008, -6/+16This is stupid. The market is moving in this direction anyway, and creating a blanket ban is going to cause problems that people aren't considering. What happens if someone comes up with a way to make incandescent that burn less energy than CFL's without the mercury? Plus there are some applications where incandescent are still necessary.
- samsite, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9i'm not sure were were going with this....they ban this, but still allow me to go out and get 4*50w halogen spots for my nice posh funky lighting in my kitchen?? this is using 4 times the power of the standard bulb i had in there
i know these use a lot of power, thats why i went and got them, so i can see when i'm preparing my food...
before you all shoote me down, i use energy saving bulbs every were else in the house... - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9Based on flawed logic like that, we should ban peanut butter.... something a black man really was involved with.
- gtluke, on 10/12/2008, -5/+14freedom was over rated anyway
- hwy9nightkid, on 10/12/2008, -1/+10what?
- localzuk, on 10/12/2008, -3/+12so something that has been in process for years should be scrapped simply because our economy is in a mess? I think not. If we did that, we'd only ever be reacting to things at a government level rather than being proactive.
- omegared, on 10/12/2008, -2/+11their not suffering from the burning of coal?
Air Toxics and Mercury
Coal-fired power plants are the largest single man-made source of mercury pollution in the U.S.26, and are the largest contributor of hazardous air pollutants.27 In smokestack tests, coal-fired power plants were found to release 67 air toxics, many of which are known or suspected carcinogens and neurotoxins that can cause development problems, respiratory problems, and aggravate asthma.28
Of these air toxics, one of the most dangerous is mercury. Mercury from coal-fired power plants is released into the air through the exhaust system when coal is burned. The primary exposure for Americans occurs when this mercury falls to the earth and runs into our lakes, rivers, and streams and contaminates the fish.29 Humans can be contaminated when they eat these fish and shellfish. In 2004, 47 states and territories had fish consumption advisories for mercury for at least some of their waters.30
Mercury is a developmental toxin, primarily affecting fetal development.31 In unborn children, it can cause brain damage, mental retardation, blindness, and many other problems. Infants are also exposed to these dangers through contaminated breast milk. While the dangers of mercury are most often associated with women and children, eating fish high in mercury has also been found to put middle-aged men at a greater risk for coronary heart disease.32
http://www.sierraclub.org/cleanair/factsheets/powe ... - RNEMESiS42, on 10/12/2008, -2/+11I have soft white CFL's in my apartment, and they give off the same yellow glow as the incandescents I had. I have yet to suffer any trauma. I'll let you know when I do.
- Wosat, on 10/12/2008, -10/+19I'm happy to let the Europeans "lead" on this issue. I prefer freedom over government-enforced environmental morality.
- irvin666, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9The 60hz flicker? I see those too.
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