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- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -2/+62A SAM mysteriously shows up on a womans lawn. Somewhere, Dr. Wierd, from the South Shore is gleaming while ranting: "Gentelman, BEHOLD!...."
- SilkSteel, on 10/11/2007, -8/+52Correct me if I'm wrong, but these things don't shoot guided or target-locking rockets right? If its made for taking out tanks, I highly doubt you could target an airliner travelling 400-500 mph at 35000 ft. Retarded sensationalist media.
- Charlotte_Web, on 10/11/2007, -2/+42There's a perfectly logical explanation for this...
The lawn care guy probably left it there to take care of that pesky gopher. - loitus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+35FALSE ALARM:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/07/rocket_launcher_harmless_feds.html
• Rocket launcher 'harmless,' feds say 1:45 p.m - Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33That summary is rather misleading. It cut and pasted 2 points together. It never says "that it’s the kind of missile that can take down an aircraft". It's an AT-4. An anti-tank weapon. No guidance. You'd have to be pretty damn good shot to shoot down a plane in flight. A SAM missile is used to shoot down planes not an AT-4.
- theNazz, on 10/11/2007, -6/+37I'm supposed to believe that some 'terrorist' simply left an unused rocket launcher on a lawn so that they could come back later and shoot down a plane? *****.
- jimski1961, on 10/11/2007, -18/+43Carl Rove planted the missile on the lawn so as to keep the American public scared. Muslims would never do anything to obstruct civil aviation
- illflip, on 10/11/2007, -2/+25AT-4? was it loaded? if it wasnt...its harmless. the launchers are disposable and unusable. you can buy old AT-4 launchers at military junk yards (DRMO)
btw AT-4 is anti-tank. dunno if it could be used to take down a jet. need some good aim since its not guided and the plane would have to be relatively low to the ground. - mrgreenjeans, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26Someone somewhere is getting an earful.
"Do you know how much that thing costs? Are you aware of the ***** I had to go through to get that? And you're going to stand there and tell me you set it down, just for a second, to tye your ***** shoes?!" - itsJALbert, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18it's an anti-tank weapon, not anti-aircraft, unless her house was -real- close to the airport
- ChronicColonic, on 10/11/2007, -6/+23I was wondering where left that thing...I guess it might be too much trouble to ask for it back now.
I was using it to get rid of the gophers in my yard, honest. - Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16Aviation? Isn't the AT-4 an anti-tank weapon?
- aixelsyD, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17an AT-4 is NOT going to take down an airborne plane. Buried for sensationalism and EDITING the text found in story.
- orangester, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19Can we quit putting "Breaking" in the title? What, do you think you're Fox news or something?
- NetJoe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15it's an unguided anti-tank weapon, NOT a SAM.
- g3buz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17FBI spokesman Sean Quinn said the launcher found by a homeowner in front of her house was essentially an empty tube.
"There was no threat," he said.
You can go back to being a tool nihl, nothing to see here. - ruley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13An empty military rocket launcher found on the front lawn of a Jersey City residence today caused a brief scare today, before federal authorities determined the device was inoperable and harmless.
U.S. Army ordinance experts are now trying to track down the serial numbers on the device to determine its origin.
According to the FBI, the launcher was the empty holder for an AT-4 anti-tank weapon - a one-shot rocket-propelled projectile used by the infantry to destroy or disable armored vehicles. The launcher is discarded after use.
FBI spokesman Sean Quinn said the launcher found by a homeowner in front of her house was essentially an empty tube.
"There was no threat," he said.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/07/rocket_launcher_harmless_feds.html - Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Thinking about it somemore, the AT-4 is a single-use launcher. It could have been a discarded used shell which would be as dangerous as any other ackwardly large baseball bat shaped object.
- inajeep, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11From the article: "The device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously and deemed inoperable. "
- Van3ck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Also found near the scene was a set of flaming tire tracks and abandoned VW bug crashed into a photo hut.
- astuddis, on 10/11/2007, -7/+16Oh the Feds put it there, huh? Who's the one that needs to wake up?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Yeah because most neighbors have missle launchers laying around in their shed.
- Slovenian6474, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Exactly. It's used as an anti-tank/structure weapon. Could destroy an airliner if the thing was still on the ground.
- zilch321, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13I love the headline, milk it bitches! They found the damn thing laying in a ditch. "seize" as if they rolled up on some guy getting ready to fire it. Great police work we have going on there with that action "seizure"..By a lady in her bathrobe getting the morning paper.
- illcoyne, on 10/11/2007, -12/+20Wreaks of propaganda.
- jpop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+835000 ft no. A few hundred feet when the plane's taking off is a different thing though...
- mtrip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I think you mean 'reeks.'
- bpmdub, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8If I could digg you up more than once for that I would I seriously think they need to bring Dr. Wierd back, he is the whole reason I watched that show
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Yes, an AT-4 is an anti tank weapon.
- bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It had been fired, so it was useless
- jworr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7it is not a SAM if the item is an AT-4. It would be very difficult to use to shoot down an airplane. In fact most anti-tank rocket launchers have too much black blast to be aimed at targets in the air.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12You're right - I doubt it's more than someone's old surplus hardware - those things can only be fired once.
- k012957, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It actually *IS* legal to own a rocket launcher. It is a "type 3 destructive device" according to the law. Similarly it is perfectly legal to own a machine gun, or even a tank. The licensing is *very* invasive and the licensing costs are astronomical, so, the only legal civilian owners of these devices are the wealthy.
You can look on youtube for videos of the various shoots held each year for those folk who own such devices. - bemenaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Dude, it's an anti-tank round, they are guided, but very little. You are not going ot hit a 300mph jet w/ that thing.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Did they find the missle too? or just the launcher?
- Innova69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Thanks, for the correction Joe, +1
- NoStoppingUs, on 10/11/2007, -20/+25naturally, its all bushs fault. you see, had he never decided to go after these guys, they would only try to attack us every few years! dont you understand that if we stop going after these guys, they'll stop going after us? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!!!11!111!!!
TERRORISM ISNT REAL. DONT BELIEVE THE CONSERVATIVE MEDIA!!!!11!1!1!!1!!!!!!!!1!1!!!!11!11!!!!!1
/sarcasm - geometry, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Yes, the article even states that it's for tanks and buildings. But they still want to tie it to aviation, it's a better news story than the real story.
- sandiegodude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6What the hell, is some giant military surplus getting ready to have a big sale or something? A disarmed patriot missile and now a used rocket launcher... Next we're going to find a cluster of deactivated grenades and an expired gas mask in Washington or something...
- ruley, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5no, it was empty, and its a one time use thing anyway
- JohnReb, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6No one has claimed that the lady whose lawn this was found on had anything to do with it. In fact, she's the one who called the cops.
Try to keep up. - tastic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Seems unguided to me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4
There is no way to tell from the story if it contained a "live" round or was simply the casing and had already been fired. If the latter, it is scrap metal, nothing more. - appleann1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7"You crave the death of more people so you can excuse the useless, wholesale slaughter of the people fighting in Iraq"
You are one insensitive clod. You're hatred of Bush and the government has caused you to cross the line more than once. You want to oppose the war, fine, no problem, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But don't accuse Republicans of wishing for the deaths of servicemen as you did in a previous post, and now this gem.
You are one hateful piece of work lady, and that is MY opinion. - ChronicColonic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Great minds Charlotte, great minds. I typed a similar comment further down... :)
- sunsheeine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6i have a question - who the f edits cbs's content? proofread, a-hole.
- ScottMaximus1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It's difficult to hit a 4 ton tank travelling at 45Km/h with that, much less a consumer jet.
- Pyehole, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4 not only is it an unguided anti-tank missile, it was a used launcher (read useless as a launcher - the missile had already been fired and the tube cannot be reused)
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9Exactly my thoughts. "Hey guys, see how well our war on terror is working. They're just leaving their weapons on our lawns now. The Patriot Act at work! Now give up more freedoms and give us more money to go kill those bastards!"
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Yeah, possible dry run. Let's do a dry run and leave the weapon so next time no one will be looking for us.
Botched hand off. Terrorist #1 to Terrorist #2 - "I'll leave the launcher on my front lawn, nobody will notice it"
Terrorist #2 to Terrorist #1 5 hours later - "Damn I must have overslept, I wonder if it's still there" - Akaji, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6No correlation, unless you're trying to say that the terrorists took 'the part of the missile that goes boom'.
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