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- Phocion55, on 10/11/2007, -3/+160This is really interesting. Imagine if someone turned that landscape into a map for massive online play.
- sebastianbr, on 10/11/2007, -12/+149Ah yes, digitally destroying it would be the best thing to do with it.
- flippinjeremy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+136Every day in my office makes me want to cry.
- sancho, on 10/11/2007, -1/+83Digital Rome was not rebuilt in a day....
- borninda818, on 10/11/2007, -3/+85Tell me the Coliseum wouldn't make one kick ass CS source map.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -0/+68@Achalemoipas:
Congratulations sir, you have won today's Armchair Idiot Award! This prestigious honor is bestowed upon those who, armed only with a minimal or unrelated eduction, undaunted by the qualifications of those you criticize, sarcastically dismiss the efforts of others for failing to meet a standard you yourself set.
Were it up to people like you nothing would ever get done, and for that, we salute you. - NinjaBoy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+51Rome must have been truly breathtaking back in the day.
- chatwithaninja, on 10/11/2007, -1/+48As soon as I saw the headline, that is exactly what I thought of too. It should be a map for an online game, so we can at least experience it virtually now that it is gone.
And why would we have to destroy it? At least we could experience it a little better than a picture of what was. Of course detrruction would be historically accurate. - Makubex, on 10/11/2007, -3/+48I spent a week in Rome a couple months ago. Sitting here now in my cubicle, looking at this makes me want to cry.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -4/+41@Phocion55: "This is really interesting. Imagine if someone turned that landscape into a map for massive online play."
@M3RCINIAN: "You just had to ruin it, didn't you?"
I really understand your sentiment here M3RCINIAN, but within reasonable limits I say do whatever it takes to get people to learn it. On my first visit to London we were walking around the Thames between the Tower of London and the Tower Bridge, and I couldn't figure out why it all seemed familiar to me. It took me a second, but I finally remembered that it was because I'd "flown" a Prowler over and through most of those landmarks in Midtown Madness. After that I could name other landmarks and even find my way around because I'd already "been there."
Anyway, somebody going to Rome and saying, "Hey, I killed somebody right over there!" probably isn't to far outside the spirit of ancient Rome anyway. - evilregis, on 10/11/2007, -3/+36@flippinjeremy (#7142767)
I'm crying right now. - Barbrady, on 10/11/2007, -3/+30rebuilt digitally awesome?
- Makubex, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21Rome is still breathtaking.
- sarazen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20"The stench of ass could smother you."
Ancient Rome would not have been nearly as bad as say a Victorian City back in the horse and buggy days. The Romans had water works everywhere including: fountains, underground sewers (which still function today), baths, self-cleaning toilets even for the public, indoor plumbing...You know it probably would have been fairly pleasant. - Nougat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19I only wish the video clips were a little more choppy. I like my video to look like Red Baron running on a 286.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15
What makes me cry (besides a good man-hug and the last twenty minutes of Steel Magnolias) is that it's so amazing even without any decoration or paint on the walls. In reality there would have have been a riot of colors, murals, paintings, hand-painted commercial signs, and graffiti. This, for all its greatness, is really just an architectural record. It all goes up from here. - asoap69, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14@ Phocion55 "This is really interesting. Imagine if someone turned that landscape into a map for massive online play."
Personally, I can't wait for Grand Theft Chariot. Fighting lions in the coliseum is going to be awesome! - NSMike, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18I prefer analog awesomeness.
- Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14@ebfoxbat: "I don't see a digital rebuilt city. I see photographs of that huge model that's been used on just about every TV documentary on Rome."
That's because you just glanced at the home page. Had you taken the time to look at the gallery or, heaven forbid, read something, you would have seen images from the computer model.
To everyone else: Sorry for responding to every dink that doesn't take a minute to absorb anything about the article at hand, but for some reason they're getting on my last nerve today. - Humptydank, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14@Achalemoipas:
Useless for what? The stated goal of the project was to create a spacial representation of the current state of knowledge (and ignorance) of the topography and urban infrastructure of ancient Rome. Its intended uses are research, imaging, and teaching.
When the stated goal changes to "pown CryEngine" then your comments will have some value. Until then, spare us. - ambiguus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Yeah, but at least this way, we don't have to pay to see it. Score one academics
- ahhell, on 10/11/2007, -15/+25Breathtaking is right. The stench of ass could smother you.
- Walker2323, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Now can we digitally burn it in a day?
Buuuuurn. Burn it allllll!!!!! - EBFoxbat, on 10/11/2007, -10/+19I don't see a digital rebuilt city. I see photographs of that huge model that's been used on just about every TV documentary on Rome.
- thinman1189, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The next Age of Empires?
- MrBabyMan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Excuse me, but did you just dupe my story, submitted earlier and add "Awesome" at the end? Tsk, tsk. Bad form.
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Ancient_Rome_Rebuilt_Digitally - Wisgary, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Counterstrike could use a Greeks vs. Persians theme.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I remember this project being presented in my real-time rendering class at UVA. It was pretty damn impressive, I must say, although not as complete as it is now. Dean Abernathy, the director of 3D modeling, was the person presenting. He only showed us the Colosseum and Forum. The level of detail (in some areas) was fairly ambitious and was pushing top end cards to their limits a couple years ago.
- SimonGray, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7What is really amazing is the fact that ancient Rome had more than 1 million inhabitants. This, at the time, staggering amount of inhabitants was not reached by any post-Roman European cities until - I think - London did it just a few centuries ago.
- choppinbroccoli, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Apparently Kevin Rose is.
Mmmmm. Jaggies. - mortigon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Did they use technology from Myst 1 to do that?
- Stano, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Cool, it would be a trip if you could take a virtual tour.
- Bahimiron, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6How is this useless?
This makes a functional, easily updatable realtime map of ancient Rome that can be edited as new understandings arise or even added to as the technology allows for a greater amount of realism. Once various physical, sociological or even environmental models are added, an enormous amount of data about the Roman citizenry could be extrapolated which could only be guessed at before.
My girlfriend, who is working on getting her masters in archaeology, is doing something very similar to this for her thesus, but involving the layout of Grecian tombs. (Or something. ***** if I know historical stuff. She knows ancient Greece, I know Spider-Man.) Her colleagues are genuinely excited to see the final results because there is a very real impression that it will be anything but 'useless'. - planckstudios, on 10/24/2007, -5/+10ok - I'm not one to knock a severe amount of hard work...but c'mon.
An all flash site for visual content? Helllooooo jaggies. And where's the high res renders? The videos are stagnant w/ boring camera movement and pathetic lighting. And the music is pre-school.
Who is digging this crap? - cruzlee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@humptydank:
I wish I could digg your comment a hundred times. This is the best retort I have ever seen on digg. I've seen more people on digg that are entitled to this award, so lets all keep our eyes open for them. - asspants, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4okay, I am NOT a digital artist. I couldnt even hope to do something like this.
But this looks like *****. It looks like it rendered on a macintosh circa 1994 using a team mixed from the people who made myst and the lawnmower man.
Go ahead, digg me down.
in b4 you asked for it. - KUKBAHLAM, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4@hiPpymIck
Urine was used to dye textiles including clothing. White cloth was impractical (it gets dirty) and doubtfully used as sheets. Now if you are using sheets as a simplistic term for Toga or Stola... yes, although white clothing was for special occasions. - protogenxl, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Will It Burn?
- slapded, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4ancient rome is rebuilt digitally choppy
- jajda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Exactly. Prague had around 30 000 people in 14th century and was bigger than Paris.
Rome was 33x bigger 1400 years before:) - diggydougie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Looks great. Now add in tags with the dates of each structure and allow for a view at any date, so people can see the rise and fall.
- DixiePixie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6@barbrady: Hehe, I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the title to be worded somewhat strangely... It looks like the author could benefit from reading this previous headline! http://digg.com/offbeat_news/20_Words_You_Can_Use_Instead_of_AMAZING
- D4r7h3v1l, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Wow, that's messed up.
- Kenzan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Awesome?
No.
Superbly done?
Yes. - wakananda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Actually, fulling is the process of initially removing natural oils and dirt from wool, so it goes from being greasy sheep hair to fluffy warm clothing. The ammonia from stale urine cuts right through the sheep grease. Here's the wiki on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulling
And here's how they do it in Scotland - it's more of a communal process, with a rich tradition of chanted songs that are sung to the beat of tramping urine through a looped bolt of cloth:
http://www.houseofscotland.org/waulking.html - D4r7h3v1l, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Achalemoipas,
The point -------> .
You missing the point------------------> >.>
Seriously, the point is that this is THE MOST HISTORICALLY ACCURATE model of Rome, not THE GREATEST 3D RENDERED model of Rome.
Unless of course you saw that, but you are one of those people who would never play the original Mario because of its "bad graphics." - Numfar28, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Google Maps Street View or didn't happen.
- hiPpymIck, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5http://www.waterhistory.org/histories/rome/
FTA
"The Emperor Vespasian had the produce of the city's urinals collected, decanted and stored in cisterns, taxed, and sold to the guild of fullers (Suetonius, p. 319). (The fullers were the dry cleaners of Rome. They had discovered that the ammonia in urine had cleaning properties.)" - raoulduke87, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Can we get some CG lions eating some CG christians in the CG arena, please? Then I could really get the full experience.
- hollismb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I was hoping to see some color. Nobody really knows what colors the building were (I don't think), but in the case of Greece (and some Rome I expect) the buildings weren't all white as we know them, but were often painted bright colors.
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