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'Sopranos' Creator: 'We Did What We Had to Do'
blog.nj.com — "I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there," he says of the final scene.
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- CaptainNoPants, on 10/11/2007, -68/+30Apparently what they "had to do" was screw over their audience with a lame ending.
- kinesis8, on 10/11/2007, -28/+54Chase already mentioned in the article that he wasn't trying to mess with people's head or tick them off. I'd say he made the right choice by leaving the ending wide open to the viewer's interpretation, because a few years down the road, people will still be debating over what the ending means. Personally, I believe that provides more value than any closure Chase could have come up with.
- SparQy, on 10/11/2007, -20/+7Actually, yeah... I agree with kinesis.
I've been thinking about it for a few days, and don't really feel cheated or screwed over. I do like that it was abrupt, and I do like that it was open ended. Maybe a quick fade to black would have been better... but it got us all talking at least.
Most of why I'm bitter is that the last season seemed soulless. I would have preferred a bit more drama + acting from James Gandolfini.
Six Feet Under, it was not. - M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -19/+6owned.
- wuxia, on 10/11/2007, -22/+14
Look... it was like this. We, the viewers, got whacked. Fade to black. It was a perfect ending. - TheCount, on 10/11/2007, -13/+54I thought the ending was great. People expecting a Scarface shootout should have known better than that considering how the show has progressed over the years. How many wacky endings and odd references has the show had? Hell, my favorite episode is the one where Christopher and Pauly get stuck in the woods after trying to kill that Russian guy.
If nothing else, it shows that Tony's choices are very limited, he WILL end up dead, in jail or ruined, there's no happy ending in his future. He's paranoid, he sits facing the door, looks up when anyone comes in or out, is suspicious of anyone moving around him, etc. You pretty much get the idea that he understands this when he goes to visit his uncle, who was once a big shot, but in the end, it didn't really mean *****. Or at least that was my own personal take on it. - kevin45, on 10/11/2007, -18/+8I think Tony was shot.
Kind of like Casino when Pesci was wrapping up the events in the end, then got slammed by baseball bats interrupting his dialogue. Tony probably caught a bullet in the face, he didn't see it coming and neither did the audience, catching everyone off guard. - pogfreak, on 10/11/2007, -29/+4CLOWN PENIS DOT FART --- SPOILER WARNING!!!
- Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -8/+16I had never seen a single episode of The Sopranos until a few months ago. Season 6, part 1, was already out on DVD when I rented season 1. By the time the last episodes started I was caught up. I'd hardly been watching TV or movies because we've just been watching The Sopranos. While I can't say that I loved every episode, I've absolutely loved this show. I'll probably actually buy every season. I don't know if it's just because I've watched everything up to this moment in such a short period of time, or if I just know how to appreciate things, but I wasn't disappointed in the finale the slightest bit. You can all call the ending "lame", "a load of crap", or whatever you want to call it. You're certainly entitled to your opinion. But I'm entitled to mine as well, and in my opinion, if you can't appreciate the ending, then you couldn't have ever appreciated the show as much as it deserved. Whether Tony was shot by any of the men that the show made seem "sketchy" or he was just looking up as Meadow walked in, as he did every other time the door opened, I don't care. I'm completely satisfied.
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -10/+84I missed the ending because my cable went out.
What happened??? - merripen, on 10/11/2007, -16/+7Problem is that there really isn't all that much to debate in longterm. Years from now, what's going to be discussed is how disappointed everyone was with the ending.
- Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2If that isn't sarcasm, then your cable probably didn't go out, cause it just went black and quiet, and stayed there for a while.
- raynar, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2The ending isnt wide open. The Sopranos got whacked. Thats why the hitman went into the bathrom ala "Godfather" style.
I just wonder if Paulie Walnuts was the one who ratted him out or not. - l33tsauce, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4Hey people lets me honest here please. The ending was like that so they can make a freaking Sopranos movie. How in the world are they going to make a Sopranos movie if Tony got whack?
- josegutz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3(in Costanza fashion) Hey... It's a show about Nuthin...
What are you gonna do eh? - DollaDollaBill, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1I'm just glad its over. regardless of what you thought about the ending, the past 2-3 seasons have been quite poor in comparison to the first three. Way to milk it chase, take the money and run. More importantly...
WHEN DOES THE WIRE START!
(if you haven't watched the wire start now, seriously good stuff) - gwinerreniwg, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Unfortunately the entire last episode (neigh - the entire last season) was the most forgettable of the series.
Because everyone was focused on the "cheated" ending, Chase has skated on the fact that the entire last episode was a skitzophrenic collage of jumpy scenes, dialog, and plot. As I watched it, it felt like a 2 hour episode was condensed into 50 minutes. They tried (and arguably had to) cover so much ground that it really just felt like a confusing whirlwind, capped by the anticlimactic ending. How sad the Chase squandered his chance to cap a groundbreaking series with a steller episode that would remind us why we watched the Sopranos in the first place.
Unfortuntately I just feel cheated now. Out of the entire last season! - knuckles, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1@kinesis
There was nothing to interpret. Tony got shot in the head (therefore the "camera" goes black since the series was focused on Tony). He's dead, great ending to a great series. Period. If anyone here thinks Tony is alive then let me spoil another movie for you - in Blade Runner, Harrsion Ford **is** an android! OMFG!!!!
- beatphats, on 10/11/2007, -9/+81You see, to me the main reason why he did this..........................................................................................................................THE END.
- wschalle, on 10/11/2007, -40/+3Step 1: Screw viewers.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.- imacashew, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6I think it was more like
1.Profit, Profit & more Profit
2.Screw Viewers
3.???
- imacashew, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6I think it was more like
- clownguyx, on 10/11/2007, -15/+54If David Chase did things the way other people think they should be done the Sopranos would never have been as good.
- Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -5/+35Great point, after all the comments I've read after season finales the past month, I'm so glad diggers don't write TV shows.
- Shabatoo, on 10/11/2007, -91/+5Sopranos has sucked since the end of season 1. The only reason people continued to watch it was so that people wouldn't be left out the next day at work when people were talking about it around the water cooler.
Shut up you soprano nuts. Go watch the Godfather (which i know 50% of you have not). Goodfellas is a good flick, its even in HD.
And finally...just watch Firefly, cuz even though it ends without closure...it is still one of the best god damned shows ever!- cryptomystic, on 10/11/2007, -9/+31dugg down for being pretentious and just plain annoying.
- whahaa, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4sopranos > firefly
- SilentSpyder, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7Come on, I know we're all geeks but The Sopranos owns Firefly.
- galacticdoom, on 10/11/2007, -10/+41I always felt while watching Sopranos that it could be written in novel form and be just as entertaining. Sopranos had what most TV doesn't - depth. The show was littered with symbolism, foreshadowing, mood, and other literary elements the same as a good novel. When you go to an art museum and stare at a painting, what are you doing? You're interpreting an artists work - looking for a message or feeling. The end of the Sopranos was similar - he gave the audience an opportunity or actually THINK, instead of being passive and just watching...
Thinking ain't illegal yet, try it...even if it's just for stupid TV. haha- SilentSpyder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I agree. Sometimes when watching Sopranos I wish I had read more Freud because there's a lot in there that we're not getting. One pretty obvious one is the cat but there's a lot more subtle ones throughout every episode.
- Broktune, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Imagine if this last episode was the last chapter in the Sopranos novel. I'm not a writer so forgive me, it may have looked like this.....
A man wearing a members only jacket gets up from his stool. He glances over in Tony's direction and proceeds to walk to the restroom. Meadow finally parks her car and jogs to the diner's door. The bell of the diner's door is heard as Tony looks up..................................................................................................The End.
Now, I was one of the people that didn't enjoy the ending. I attribute it to the fact that I thought the episode itself was poor so I was hoping that the ending saved the episode. If I would have read a novel that ended this way, I would be even more upset. If the scene would have faded out, I could understand it more. Cutting to black like that causes all this speculation. I would have rather known that Tony just lived or died. Not be left hanging because it's "genius" or "brilliant" or we need to use our imaginations more. - KozmoTKramer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1wait till they adapt and excellent novel "A Game of Thrones" in a few years. Should be outstanding
- joaob, on 10/11/2007, -15/+6Its so funny to see most people on digg do a complete 180 when I thought from the very start that this was the best possible ending.
- lechatron, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7He's embarrassed to say that they ran out of film on the last day of shooting.
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/11/2007, -25/+5Its a TV show ... who cares?!?!
- jspegele, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12I doubt Ub3rg33k meant that with any high level of thought, but his statement does ring very true with this episode. What was it that AJ said after Bobby's funeral, something like "You people are all *****. There's a war going on and all you care about are pointless TV shows."
- hellotyler, on 10/11/2007, -22/+1The ending was so lame. What a prick.
- zyl0x, on 10/11/2007, -20/+2This is really annoying to all the people who are still a season behind. I should just slap some spoiler tags on either side of my monitor. Seriously..
- fivestarsoul, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16Don't go on here then, I didn't see it until yesterday and there was a ton of stuff on the internets. You just avoid it.
- zoinnk, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13It's your own fault for being dumb enough to come on a real-time social news site. Give me a break.
- inertic, on 10/11/2007, -33/+7Chase is a class-A douchebag. He copped out by using a method half of the prentious kids in film school would use. Here a guy had the chance to make a great and memorable(for the right reason) ending and he gives us a load of crap. With all the complaints HBO got, you can be sure that they won't give him as much artistic freedom again.
- forumreader, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11Chase made HBO millions of dollars and created a show that was one of the few reaons to actually subscribe to HBO, rather than cheap out with the torrents.
Of course they'll give him free reign next time. - dainbramage559, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19Comments like your's make me sick. Chase created a masterpiece with The Sopranos. It was his vision. Not yours. You only make yourself sound like an idiot by calling him a douche.
- Chewie67, on 10/11/2007, -16/+7"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting, or adding to what is there"
Ah, the hallmark of a spoiled brat. Take your ball and go home, without explaining why. "I'm an art-ist! I need not explain my actions!"
The fact is that you threw out a half-hearted, cop-out, crap ending in the hopes of sparking controversy. It had very little thought, imagination or creativity. It was a simple ploy to draw attention instead of putting any real effort towards a real closing scene. It's the work of a lazy author, not a creative expression.
Way to cash a paycheck and run, Mr. Chase. - OswaldKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17No, it's the American public, like you, who are the class-A douchebags. You guys can't read symbolism past your fat noses. The ending happened the only way it could. It IS memorable, and for the right reason. There are millions of intelligent people that don't need to be sppon-fed their thoughts. They prefer to think for themselves. You should try it some time.
- Frozo, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8Oh yeah, because Chase didnt make ANY money for HBO...
- Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4There are also millions of intelligent people that don't need to be spoon-fed their thoughts that are the "Class-A douchebags of the American public."
- jspegele, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6@OswaldKenobi
Based on your comment history you are an American. Guess what, that makes you part of any ignorant, dumbass stereotype that you make about the American public. Shut up and get over yourself. There are plenty of Americans who realize that this was the perfect ending. - OswaldKenobi, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1@jspegele
Read it again. The ending is what made the series special to me. It was "perfect." .
@magillicutti
Thank you for the edit. I need to learn that "Check spelling" is my friend. ;) - jspegele, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@OswaldKenobi
Read my comment again.
- forumreader, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11Chase made HBO millions of dollars and created a show that was one of the few reaons to actually subscribe to HBO, rather than cheap out with the torrents.
- fivestarsoul, on 10/11/2007, -11/+17I thought the ending was awesome. My opinion is that Tony was killed, that's why we didn't hear anything, no music, just silence. But the great thing is that my opinion is neither right nor wrong. People who watch this stuff for entertainment and don't read into it probably hated the ending. When you view it as a piece of art, open to interpretation, it becomes something much deeper and, in my opinion, more brilliant.
- Valleye, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I see a new Sopranos in 5-10 years with Meadow being a DA or something fighting organized crime. She was the only one to live. Too bad she got to see her whole family whacked.
- pjs1840, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4Here’s what I think happened. Last week’s episode ended when he went to sleep. The final episode was a dream....when Tony woke up, he was in pj's and in a made bed, not how he went to sleep. There are different references to dreams in the episode... Everything he wanted works out - Meadow is happy, AJ is normal, Phil is dead. While in the diner, he sees people from other episodes, Phil Leotardo's nephew, the brother of someone they killed, the two black guys that tried to kill him. Then as soon as Meadow comes in and he looks up, bang, someone shoots him in his sleep. Remember a few episodes ago, he and Bobby were talking on the boat, and he said "Bobby, how do you think its gonna end" and Bobby said "I think it gonna be real quiet, then all go black."
- ajrizzo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20You clearly didn't read the interview. The viral email regarding Phil Leotardo's nephew, the hijackers, and the Comley trucker being in the diner, is complete BS and made up.
The people in the diner were just random dudes trying to get their onion rings on. - shartman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Nice......
- hightower77, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3And besides...
You might want to watch season 1 again. One of said two "black" dudes was killed during the attempted whacking/car jacking. For the viewers reference, Ep. 12 - "Isabella" - SilentSpyder, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1It may not be a known hitman but just an unknown.
- ajrizzo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20You clearly didn't read the interview. The viral email regarding Phil Leotardo's nephew, the hijackers, and the Comley trucker being in the diner, is complete BS and made up.
- madk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Good for him. How can we be mad at a show that has given us seasons of amazing stories and content? For the rest of my life I will forever compare every show to the Sopranos.
Just stop speculating on what happened in the end and form your own conclusion and be done with it.- DyDx, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6You should be comparing every show to "The Wire," though "The Sopranos" is still magnificent.
- opiv421, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5I'm still mad.
- sefalese, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7i liked it. "say bye bye to grandpa! pap pap pap, squish" seeya philly!
- graviplana, on 10/11/2007, -12/+5I think it's interesting that the Sopranos and Seinfeld both had ***** endings. Excellent shows – ***** endings. Go Figure. With the Sopranos, I was hoping they would do the right thing and have Tony Soprano finally die so that his archetype, the psychopath participating in the machinations of normal life, would no longer be presented as a role model for mass society. Perhaps in some small way his death and resolution of his conflicted character would help us all to eventually move beyond the barbarism of the world. A picture is worth a thousand words.
- Mamesj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2I thought the Seinfeld ending was pretty hilarious and out there. how else would you end a show about nothing?
- SuperCUBE, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3At least Seinfeld actually, like, had an ending.
- akatherder, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1If I could write a TV show with a compelling storyline and a good conclusion, I would.
Obviously from the large variety of guesses and assumptions, Chase was trying to lead viewers down a path and he failed at it. - sweetescapamos, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4What kind of salary were the actors on this series receiving?
- hightower77, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I think I read somewhere Gandolfini was making about $800k per ep.
- Neiby, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4I think Tony got whacked. Meadow saw it and is going to be so pissed off about it that she'll want revenge. But first she has to find out who did it and why. Then she'll go after that person legally on one front, but perhaps with a little family help on another front. In the long run, Meadow will end up running the Soprano family business.
- hightower77, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2OMFG...
- tankdilla, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Can we stop talking about this already?
- danbiz3, on 10/11/2007, -5/+14At first I was disappointed by the ending, nothing was wrapped up and nobody knows what actually happened (if anything) in the restaurant. However, the more I thought about the ending the more it seems to fit the entire series. Just Tony and his family eating dinner together after (seemingly) surviving more horrible situations. In the end, they still had each other and were still just trying to be a "normal" family. That's what the show has been about since the beginning. Wrapping everything up in a neat little package isn't The Sopranos; that's part of what made the show so amazing. It's a work of art, not simply entertainment. The show dealt so much with death both physically and philosophically that the death of the show had to match that of the characters. Most of the time, nobody knew they were going to die, it would just happen randomly like Phil at the gas station. The finale had the same concept. Not only was it not cliche, it embodied what the show stood for. People can debate what they think happened with Tony and that's part of the appeal, but if he did die (which I like to believe) it was spectacular. The last thing he sees is his daughter and he is smiling. I thought the ending was fantastic and I will people stopping whining that they didn't get this big shootout or have Tony hauled off to prison. The ending given was more meaningful and thought provoking than any of those would have been.
- Adgeman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I agree completely with you;I thought the ending was wonderful. No-one can tell you if Tony died; if he lived as this was never filmed. It's all up to our own personal impression; I prefer to think we got an insight to the paranoia that he lives with every day while trying to spend some quality time with his family. Other people might think he was whacked; it's all about interpretation.
Loved it.
- Adgeman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I agree completely with you;I thought the ending was wonderful. No-one can tell you if Tony died; if he lived as this was never filmed. It's all up to our own personal impression; I prefer to think we got an insight to the paranoia that he lives with every day while trying to spend some quality time with his family. Other people might think he was whacked; it's all about interpretation.
- readme, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15I've watched the last scene about 20 times and I have to say, there's nothing concrete there. There's a lot of symbolism, but nothing that definitively explains what happens.
If Tony got shot it would have been the talk of the net for one day. The ending is it is, will be talked about forever. Chase succeeded in what he wanted to do.- mousky, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The last scene was meant to not definitively explain what happened. It ended, abruptly. That was it. Show over. We can all speculate what happened to Tony, but it is irrelevant. As Ron Moore said in his blog Chase "yanked us out of their lives without any resolution whatsoever". I didn't need any resolution, just a good story, and Chase provided that, for six seasons.
- laserdog, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8Okay, maybe that's a good explanation why he chose that ending.
Now what's his excuse for the artless and boring 7 episodes that proceeded it?- SilentSpyder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3After watching the Sopranos for a while I got around to not think of it as a gangster show but as a family drama. The main character just happens to be a mob boss.
- kurtwinter, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Ron Moore and JJ Abrams - you're on notice - you do this ***** and we will run you out of the country too!
- mt066, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Reminds me of The Simpsons when they read The Raven:
Bart: "You know what would be better than nothing?"
Lisa: "What?"
Bart: "ANYTHING!!" - mt066, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1^ whoops that wasn't supposed to be a reply. But for the record, I agree with the parent post.
- akersmc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Ron Moore thinks this was the perfect way to end the show, he only wishes he had though of it first:
http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2007/06/#a003055
- mt066, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Reminds me of The Simpsons when they read The Raven:
- tmaiden, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2Tony DID get whacked. The only question is by who. Remember first Tony's comments earlier this season about getting whacked (which were also replayed either last week or the week before). Tony said something to the effect of "you don't see it coming, you don't feel nothing, everything just fades to black". That was your ending.
As for the who, take note of the credits for the folks in the restaurant at the end. The guy at the counter that goes to the bathroom is Nikki Leotardo, phil's nephew. The black men are the same ones that shot Tony in season two, but only clipped his ear. Oddly, the boyscouts were in the store last week when Bobby got it, so they are going to have some issues, but my money says it wasn't the boy scouts.
My money says that based on the title, "Made in America", it was the trucker with the hat that read "USA". The same trucker who was the brother of the trucker that Christopher robbed and killed in season two...he was the guy that had to identify the body. It's all in the credits.- hightower77, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7See my above comment...
"You might want to watch season 1 again. One of said two "black" dudes was killed during the attempted whacking/car jacking. For the viewers reference, Ep. 12 - "Isabella". " - godmstr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7made in america was the original name of the show and is probably no reference to the trucker
- ddoggphx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Stop perpetuating this incorrect rumor!
No Phil's cousin. No anything else. Those diner people were nobodies. None of them have other IMDB credits on this show. IT IS FALSE. Stop spreading it. Stop regurgitating crap that you hear from people and thinking it is gospel. Go look at the credits yourself and save face. FFS, the reporter in the original article on this topic even mentions this.
It would be pretty awesome, if it were real. It is not real, so just stop.
- hightower77, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7See my above comment...
- Mamesj, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0The last episode was the first episode of the show I had seen lol.
That said, it seemed like our cable went out, which was really the worst part. How could the very last scene be so poorly cut? As for open ended endings, there really is no good time to end it--it has to end on some note that doesn't indicate any particular direction for the story. They did a great job. Even for someone who hasn't watched the series-- there was crapload of tension going into that scene and to end it there was awesome. I'm intrigued and would, one day, like to watch the whole series. Had I seen Tony get shot in the head and die, I wouldn't have as much motivation to watch the show. It's a very marketable ending in that sense-- people are less likely to buy DVDs or continue caring about a show if they see the main character die in the end. I don't have a link to back that up, unfortunately. - Squetomee, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4This ending was genius due to the psychological aspect of it. You either think -
A: Tony gets whacked.
B: Family member gets whacked.
C: Tony isn't whacked, but spends the rest of his life in fear of being whacked. Every time someone enters a store, resturaunt, or public bathroom, Tony will immediately raise his head and be suspicious.
D: Tony isn't whacked and doesn't care.- ahhell, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2Or E: Your comments are stupid.
- muleking, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3A mediocre ending to an inconsistent but occasionally brilliant television program. David Chase isn't some visionary artist, he made a tv show, and he skated whenever a string of episodes were absolutely dismal and unentertaining because he is an "artist", yuck.
- CravenTwain, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7A deliberately mediocre ending - that's its brilliance. Life goes on after the episode ends. I much prefer it to the identikit Hollywood ending it could have been...
- novacrown, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1does anyone have a link to watch the episode online?
- username9000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Good for him. i thought it was a good ending to the series.
- jab46, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1If Tony had been whacked everyone would be saying "I knew that was going to happen". As in real life, life goes on for the Sopranos which was a good ending for us die hard fans because a movie hopefully will come out in a year or two and our favorite crime family will be back.
But, I really did think my cable went out and I was really pissed until I saw the credits roll.
I already miss those guys! Now what do I do on Sunday nights?- Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Everything you said sounded good until you said something about a movie.
- antoniojvr, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Tony Died. You never see it coming, everything just goes black.
- jonnyeh, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Or was it the audience that got whacked? It went black for us, not Tony.
- gokeyword, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5The ending was perfect. Stop being small minded.
- AladinSane, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Uh... you're calling people "small minded" over the ending of a TV show? That's pretty much the definition of irony.
- MisterFlaut, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Ugh, I swear every time this happens you get someone else calling others stupid, or throwing out the "you don't get it" card.
Look, the show wasn't *that* intellectual. It's not like David Lynch, or some abstract art flick, where what seems like a meaningless scene is actually a key part in understanding the barrage of confusion.
It's a straight up gangster series. Goodfellas and The Godfather didn't pull this *****, yet are highly regarded as art in the same way The Sopranos is.
We get it just fine. Our minds aren't small. I think the small minded ones are those walking around thinking they're all high and mighty because only "they get it" while everyone else feels let down. If you're happy with using your imagination to fill in the blanks, fine, but don't play stupid by acting like you can't remotely fathom how the rest of us are pissed. The series has never done this. Every key event was shown in detail. Every shocking twist was explained and revealed. So why stop with the last episode?
The "use your imagination" bit was overkill for how it was applied on a SERIES FINALE. Applied anywhere else, and done right, it could be okay - in this case, the outcry from the fans speaks for itself.
- jab46, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Please don't say Tony died, even though it makes sense with the scene on the row boat a few weeks ago. I'll live in my fantasy world were Tony is fine. Maybe the guy that went to the restroom was FBI?
- Chubarama, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Again, this isn't American Idol. We don't get to vote for what the outcome is. Failing to not appreciate the ending is failing to appreciate what the show was all about to begin with. If this were a show that was created by committee and popular opinion with the purpose to give the audience a handjob every chance it got, it would have been canceled after 6 episodes.
- kaiser44, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2why not wait till next week, maybe that will clear it up.
- EricAnderton, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Chase: "I don't think about (a movie) much," he says. "I never say never. An idea could pop into my head where I would go, 'Wow, that would make a great movie,' but I doubt it.
Okay, who else is up for seeing Chase develop "Cleaver" into a full-length (B) movie? - grendel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1The show was originally about a crime boss who sought treatment with a Therapist for having panic attacks the led to him collapsing/ passing out.
With all the tension & shady characters in the diner, maybe it Tony had another attack and passed out. - tsf5000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1The ending sucked. It wasn't even a finale, just a way to end the show. I used to say that The Sopranos was one of the best shows ever but with an ending like this, no way.
- jkoski, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Ron Moore better not pull this *****.
- godmstr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I loved the ending, everyone was out there wanting it to end in a way to say goodbye to the characters, weather tony died or lived it doesn't really seem to matter, the last season was alot on the family and mo matter what went on tony was there for his family, in the end it ended together a family out eating dinner, talking about onion rings, not being able to find a place to park, ya know the normal parts of life. no guns no hits no killing spree to take them all down or betrays. Just a man and his family enjoying a bowl of onion rings
- JordanM85, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Nothing happening is not a good ending to a series that went for 8 years.... It's lazy.
- tsf5000, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1I completely agree.
- KrypticOne, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Yeah....nothing happened...
AJ finally starting to come around and see life isn't so bad after all...
Meadow finally found someone who she could spend the rest of her life with
Tony and Carmela realizing that thier kids are not kids anymore and are starting to branch into their own adult lives...
Paulie finally realizing that maybe he isn't invincible after all...
Tony's realization that Junior is nothing but a shell of the former life he used to have...
The head of the NY gang getting whacked in front of his grandkids...
No....nothing happened that would make this an ending deserving of the series - Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@KrypticOne
This is the first comment I've seen regarding Phil getting murdered. That scene was priceless.
- catfud, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2i didnt invest all that time watching the sopranos to have Chase let me choose the ending
why not tell us the ending you saw for the series Mr Chase
or if you wanted the viewer to decied why now just mkae the sopranos a choose your own adventure
where people could have picked what they wanted tony to do next
***** idiot - iwasdj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yesterday, all the pissed off comments got dugg up. Today, it's the reflective set. What a difference a day makes.
- willgetin, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Well, someone earlier in the thread almost had it right.
I had a personal conversation with someone who is in the know as to the intent of the ending.
The way it goes down is this.
Meadow is walking towards the door. Tony hears the bell jingle on the door and looks up. Then - BrianNowhere, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2For my $$ I always hated the scenes with that ***** Dr. Malfi. Everytime there was a shrink scene I'd look at the clock wondering how much precious Sopranos time was going to be wasted listening to the problems of a modern day "soccer mobster". I don't care what people say, the best moments in the Sopranos were when someone was being whacked or when someone was talking about whacking someone or overall just doing some ***** up mobster *****. I never carewd about AJ's problems or Meadow's and i sure didn't care what Dr. Malfi thought.
The show was a success becuause it followed the success of GoodFellas. IMHO they should have kept it that way. if i want artistic statements and moralizing about the state of society I can watch the Simpsons.
IMHO, The ending was laziness by Chase. Sure everyone knew there were two possibilities Tony would be whacked or he wouldn't. The challenge for Chase as a writer was in the HOW part. David Chase copped out. He should be whacked. - ChineseRoom, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Summary of Digg comments on this story:
"You're dumb because you liked the ending"
"No you're dumb because you didnt like it"
For Christ's sake people, do we really have to insult one another because of our opinions on a tv show finale? Let's act alittle more mature here, please?- MisterFlaut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5...but the pro-ending's started it first...
- oryxorange, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0There were so many phenomenal pieces in that final episode, including the ending, that it's hard to know where to start. For me, the high point was the ascendence of AJ. His and Pauly's exchange at the restaurant, in which, if my unreliable memory serves me correctly, even Pauly was left at a loss for words, was truly his moment of glory. And gettin' it on in his Dad's ride only to have it catch fire? Priceless!
- cbags, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2So if Tony is neiother alive or dead...but still in the show...
Did he perpetrate the perfect Schroedinger's TV Show quantum ending! IM IN UR TV STEALIN YOUR ENDINGSZ! -
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