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- DarkANon, on 04/18/2008, -8/+488Absolutely, but I don't know if the producers had the balls to do it.
- umbriago, on 04/18/2008, -5/+366they can use mine, I bought one and tried it out on my cats. (it said they were fine, but needed to cough up $4,800 just to be sure)
- jflowers45, on 04/18/2008, -23/+346[goes to google thetan reader...]
- doctorfungi, on 04/18/2008, -5/+214My Thetan reader works fine. The best $345,234 I have ever spent.
- whiteyak41, on 04/18/2008, -4/+211BUSTED
- WiseWeasel, on 04/18/2008, -9/+191How the hell are they supposed to prove whether or not the machine is working correctly? Exactly how does one go about calibrating a thetan detector? This is an impossible thing to test. It would be like asking them to disprove the 'holiness' meter I just invented (coin toss)...
- Johnny1337h4x0r, on 04/18/2008, -12/+190[This comment has been removed due to legal action by the Church of Scientology]
- GiJoeBob, on 04/18/2008, -6/+180Absolutely.
- uruururr, on 04/18/2008, -2/+173uhhh you mean an e-meter?
- etruscan, on 04/18/2008, -1/+135Mythbusters would never do it. That would be like asking them to validate that holy water can really cleanse the soul of it's sins. They're not going to get involved with a religion (be it cult or not) to simply attempt to disprove it. Would be a bad PR move.
- snurfle, on 04/18/2008, -1/+131Penn & Teller, not Mythbusters!
- inactive, on 04/18/2008, -10/+113[to be the devil's advocate] No. Why give it more attention than it deserves and tie it to a legitimate, established show?
- motafett, on 04/18/2008, -3/+102Quoted from the Mythbusters board.
"I worked for a well established unnamed company in New Hampshire that made devices for the church of Scientology. The church sent the design and the factory made them. As best I could tell, the device was a biofeedback monitor that could deliver an electric shock to the person who was being "read". The device was being upgraded on a regular basis and cost the Ministers thousands of dollars to replace after each upgrade. About 18 years ago, I think they were using the Mark IV version that had lots of shiny gold or brass parts and connected by wires there was canisters that you would hold in each hand. I don't know who got the money for the devices. Any one know out there? was it L. Ron Hubbard or son? As far as I know it could have been the "evil Thetans"." - c0baltfish, on 04/18/2008, -4/+84"It's a device that removes money from your wallet and gives it to Scientology, with your cooperation. The benefit is all one way, and it's not in your direction."
- crystalblue69, on 04/18/2008, -10/+89right on
xenutv.com
xenu.net
enturbulation.org - inactive, on 04/18/2008, -3/+76The thetan reader a device that Co$ is based on physics and electronics and is used to obtain information about the human soul. Mythbusters would assumingly destroy this idea without a contest.
- mutz, on 04/18/2008, -7/+722 Girls, 1 e-meter
- inactive, on 04/18/2008, -2/+55Jamie would never do it.
Quote from the pyramid-magic ep. "No more oogie-boogie myths!" - Suricou, on 04/18/2008, -2/+54It depends on your level. At low-level scientolgy, its an e-meter and functions by detecting stress. At mid-level, its still an e-meter but now it functions by measuring the resistance of the engrams within the subject as they change in size under the influence of questioning. It's only at the high levels that the thetan bit is explained. Thats how any good cult works: Start with the believeable explanation, and introduce the ridiculous bits slowly over the course of many years.
- kgreen69er, on 04/18/2008, -1/+49HEY!! I'm getting a little TIRED of this!!!
You volunteered, didn't you?! We're paying you, aren't we?
Yeah, but I didn't know you were going to give me electric shocks!! What are you trying to prove here, anyway? - rhabd0mancer, on 04/18/2008, -6/+48No. They'd probably screw up somehow and actually validate the Cult of Scientology's crazy beliefs.
"Well, Jamie, I'm amazed. According to our data, there may actually be something to this! I'm calling this Plausible." - Hnnnnnghhh, on 04/18/2008, -6/+47Uphold your internet duty, register on the forum and support the idea.
- linkdj, on 04/18/2008, -1/+35Your cats cough up money? Mine only cough up hairballs.
- fakekevinrose, on 04/18/2008, -5/+38Please, stop. America does not need more uneducated bible voters.
- gquaglia, on 04/18/2008, -3/+35More like a ***** meter.
- sweeneyowns, on 04/18/2008, -2/+33wait? does google labs have a thetan reader now?? ***** sweet.
- viewofeverlast, on 04/18/2008, -4/+33Why would they tackle the Thetan Reader? That would be like tackling the story of the three little pigs.
Mythbusters uncovers myths, not fairytales. - GreatWhiteShaky, on 04/18/2008, -2/+31What if doing this converted Jamie and Adam to scientologists? Could you really live with the guilt?
- liquidpele, on 04/18/2008, -2/+30They could not "disprove" the spirituality part of it (cough, *****, cough) but they could:
1) Take it apart, see what it actually does
2) Test it for reproducibility within a short time span.
3) Test it on animals
4) Test it on non-living things like leather jackets, ground beef, roadkill, a person in the morgue, etc. - jimmy17, on 04/18/2008, -1/+29Absolutely... but lawsuits are inevitable.
- TheVirus, on 04/18/2008, -4/+30It's impossible for Adam and Jamie to be boring. They could have them watch paint dry and I'd be entertained.
- ia2ca, on 04/18/2008, -1/+26I suppose I'm the only one that read these comments in order?
"Absolutely, but I don't know if the producers had the balls to do it."
"they can use mine, I bought one and tried it out on my cats. (it said they were fine, but needed to cough up $4,800 just to be sure)" - ORBAT, on 04/18/2008, -3/+27You need to seek medical attention immediately. I didn't even think it was possible to insert one in there. Ew.
- schizogony, on 04/18/2008, -3/+26I'd rather they didn't because I want Jamie and Adam to stay alive.
- theaceoffire, on 04/18/2008, -3/+26I think it would rock if they did, but I don't want to risk Adam and Jamie's families...
I much prefer attacking them without providing real targets. - ChronoMojo, on 04/18/2008, -3/+26It could change your life (COMMA) *****.
I wonder what would happen if my life ***** was changed. - gllopc, on 04/18/2008, -2/+24Here's how Hubbard said to calibrate the PC (pre-clear, aka the chump who is being given the counseling session) and the meter. It's not enough to truly calibrate an emeter for the purpose of testing on the show, obviously:
The ``metabolism test'' is given before each session on the E-Meter and comes after the can squeeze that sets sensitivity for 1/3 of a dial drop on the PC. The test involves having the PC take a deep breath, holding it for a second, and then letting it out. This is meant to produce a sudden drop or fall (movement to the right) of the needle on the dial, similar to an LFBD. If the needle doesn't move far enough, it is assumed that the PC in not sessionable by reason of being tired or hungry; this simple test is meant to measure what Hubbard calls "basal matabololism", but it unknown to me how it works.
Apparently, there is some connection to taking a deep breath and the restistance of the body dropping, but it is unlikely in my opinion that this has anything to do with how much the PC has slept or eaten. In all likelihood, this is a learned biofeedback mechanism, and can sometimes be used to get out of a session that the PC does not want to take. If the test does not work the first time, often the PC is asked to wait a minute and try again, this time breathing deeper. If this doesn't work, the PC is sent running off to get a candy bar from a machine or some such, eat that, come back, and the test is tried once more. Of course, under normal conditions in Scientology, and especially for staff, the PC is always tired. However, if the PC is deemed "unsessionable" because of poor results on the metab test, he or she is often sent packing to Ethics.
From: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/metabol ... - grimward, on 04/18/2008, -2/+23Yes, I agree, P&T would be more suitable for this scam :)
- iPenis, on 04/18/2008, -5/+26for the lulz
- StrangeFamous, on 04/18/2008, -2/+23Dugg for obscure Ghostbusters reference!
"A bunch of wavy lines... I don't know" - pintomp3, on 04/18/2008, -1/+20you are one angry disciple. say hi to bon joven for me.
- s205521, on 04/18/2008, -1/+19And then blow it up!
- rushiku, on 04/18/2008, -3/+21They delved far enough into testing untestable supernatural BS with the Pyramid Power episode, at the end, Adam said "let's not do anymore of these oogie boogie myths".
Everyone already knows you can't prove/disprove matters of faith, and it would be rather boring to see Adam and Jamie try. - sheepdipbitch, on 04/18/2008, -5/+23Do it. Don't think. DO IT.
- jamesdew, on 04/18/2008, -2/+20Joven is the pioneer of Electric Water Heater manufacturing in Malaysia
What can he teach me? - rexona, on 04/18/2008, -3/+20makes two of us...wish I didn't though....
- MWeather, on 04/18/2008, -1/+18Actually you're wrong. It's actually based on the concept that there is a sucker born every minute.
- schroeder, on 04/18/2008, -0/+17They would just be testing the technology and whether or not it actually does anything. It is not bias to test something for any reason. All that comes from it are the facts, positive or negative.
- monospaced, on 04/18/2008, -2/+18C'mon fellow Scientology haters, you should know it's called an e-meter by now.
- pintomp3, on 04/18/2008, -1/+15it would be ballsy to start debunking cults and religions, but it wouldn't change the minds of the faithful anyway.
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