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- zadadka, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28You may find yourself Dugg down by those that have no interest in your lack of interest... oh, and your therefore unwanted opinion....
- DisposableRob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22"jerking off the audience"
That's not a phrase I ever expect to see in mainstream media coverage. - DisposableRob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17"this isn't the SCI-FI Network forums or Space the Imagination Station forums or FX forums "
It's an article submitted under Entertainment / Television topic in on Digg, though. It seems to be appropriate. - birdadderley, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19I still don't understand why everyone seems surprised. Yes, this was one of the best TV shows in a LONG time, but cmon, let's get to Earth already! I am happy it's gone on this long but I don't want a soap opera.
@mcatrage - If BSG followed in the footsteps of Lost, I'd shoot myself in the *****.
I am totally for the spin-offs that they might make from this (Caprica or something of life on Earth) as long as they don't turn into a Stargate-ish feel. - Pilot85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+16Asked if they have any regrets about something they wish they'd done differently with "Battlestar," Eick joked, "We never got Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff)
and Number Six (Tricia Helfer) together."
Damn! - wiggles, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15I think the writers and producers are too afraid of BSG turning into Lost. There is a huge difference between the two, though -- Lost is nothing but blue balls after blue balls after blue balls, where BSG actually completes story arcs, and moves the main plot along. BSG deserves to live for at least one more season than they're giving it, but they longer they keep it on the air, the more the writers have to pull excuses out of their asses for them not finding Earth, which gets lame after a while.
- nova6868, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14I'm glad they're bringing it to an end. The plot of the show has a direction and a goal, and it would be really dissapointing if we never got to see that goal.
And besides, I fear if they drag it out we'll get more episodes of 'Apollo stops the slave trade!' or 'Helo is so moral and just!' I don' t care for the episodes that are just soap-opera drama and really have nothing to do with sci-fi. - evoman142, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14"We never got Starbuck and Number Six together."
Mmmmmmmm.......I would make love to Number Six's elbow. - psbpv3o, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Save BSG from what? Having an excellent and fulfilling resolution(?), thus defying the annoying precedent of dragging shows on past their due and making them horrible in the process. I think they are saving BSG and I love these guys for that. Battlestar is ***** awesome...
- macabaret, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Bears eat beets. Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica.
/The Office - mtalon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8@mcatrage:
I agree that LOST > Heroes on the finale part, but that was mostly because the Heroes finale was prescripted way ahead of time. The writers even admitted that they couldn't do anything differently because the leadup made it impossible. I didn't think it was horrible like some people say, though. It was a heck of a lot better than most finales, and WAY better than most TV.
That said, LOST did a heckuva job. Let's just hope that the new direction they're wanting to go with works out. Otherwise, the fate of Alias will be the fate of LOST, as I've feared from the get-go. - Pilot85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7If they got Tricia Helfer to do it, I wouldn't mind.
- rlutterb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Here is the question and the full text of the answer from Moore:
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=1e1a1a9f-8fa3-4771-ae7a-dd3635d741e7
"Was there a specific moment from last season that trigged the idea for you that it was time to bring the series to a close?
Moore: I think it was somewhere around the midpoint of the season, when we were working on the story where they discovered the temple. The temple gave Deanna a glimpse of the final five, and that triggered the beacon that’s pointing toward Earth. Those events made it feel like we were promising the audience that we were moving toward revelations, and indeed, by the end of the season, we had taken that moment and had revealed four of the final five Cylons. And one of our characters had been to Earth and seen it and that was probably the moment when we started feeling that if we don’t start paying off—if we don’t really reveal the secrets and start moving in that direction—you get to a place where you feel like you are jerking off the audience or you’re just treading water, and we never wanted to be in that position. We always wanted to be striving forward and pushing the show to its limits and not being afraid to move onto the next part of the story." - pbaker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5to those complaining about whiners.... everyone seems to be in favor of it ending, so who's whining about it being a final season? read comments before you attack (non-existent) commenters.
that being said, this is a great example of a network choosing the story over the money. dragging shows out until they become rubbish only kills the show. all networks should learn from this, and end shows when it's time to end, not try to wring every last cent out of a show before killing it. - pabloD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5So being a fan of science fiction and comics automatically makes you an immature teenager? Nice. Give me the moral complexity, timely commentary on society and mature, intelligent storytelling of something like BSG over the patently juvenile, insipid, vapid and intellectually lacking craaap that the networks pass off as 'mainstream entertainment for grown-ups' any day.
Please excuse my rant, but I'm so frakkin' tired of people putting science fiction down as a kid's genre, or otherwise lacking in 'gravitas', or whatever. Go watch some BSG, go wrap your head around the concepts and ideas behind some books by Dick, Asimov, Heinlein, or Stephenson; check out some comics by Neil Gaiman or Brian K. Vaughan, Warren Ellis, etcetera, and then we'll talk.
sheesh.
/rant - jorazzle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5@anagoge
Yes. - mtalon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You know, I wish we'd catch up to other parts of the world and start writing more seasons of TV that had beginnings and endings. Heroes does that, 24 does that, even Buffy and Angel did that to some extent. The cliffhanger finale is used too much as an excuse to drag a story out much further than it should be.
Story arcs make good storywriting. Season arcs make for a coherent viewing experience. - Noceous, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4He talks like it's bad thing. Jerking off the audience would take interactive TV to new level.
- AllnightChemist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Dear Producers: There's still time!
- resinoth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3One of the best television shows this decade, without a doubt. A number of rough spots, but a shame to see it go. Eick and Moore should pen another show together.
- primortal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Sure they could do another season or two, but SciFi started complaining that season 3's ratings were dropping. Thats a warning shot that the series is going to get canceled along with the line of saying its to expensive to produce. I would rather have them end the series properly than pull a Farscape/Jericho and kill it in mid-story.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So BSGs end was being debated at the end of the second season? Wow, I guess their plans for the show weren't that lofty and they just got lucky.
That's fine. I believe the show lost a lot of its momentum in the 3rd season anyway. It's like they realized they were popular and their writing balls fell off or something and they went for the safe zone. - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I thought they should have ended it after the beginning of the second season. That's when they made the bizarre decision to ditch interesting story progression and just go for the "shocking revelation of the week" talk show style thing.
- slantyeyed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2nice, they actually had a plan to end / resolve the series unlike Lost where it looks like they're making it up as they go.
- specialpie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Safe? They've apparently killed off one of their main characters and revealed four others to possibly be Cylons. You can accuse BSG of a lot of things, but I don't feel they have yet played it "safe".
- pabloD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"Do you watch Battlestar Galactica?
No?
Then you're an IDIOT."
Words of wisdom right there. - ebcoh, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4They could have definitely made two more seasons. Their writing wasn't failing THAT bad. Sure, Season 3 was iffy in the middle... but tell me the beginning and end weren't incredible TV? If the best parts of Season 3 didn't deliver, then end the show. If they've still got the ability to write with quality, keep it going.
- pabloD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Absolutely. If BSG had been cancelled mid story, then yes, by all means go browncoat and let's give Skiffy a dose of pure internet hate. But what's going on here is totally different. This is the writers of a story getting to end it on their own terms, within their own timeframe, and thus producing a good, solid story that will keep us all engaged till the very end. A story needs a good beginning, middle, and yes, end for it to remain compelling and interesting. The only reason networks keep shows on for so long is that after a show has become successful, the network can hike up its already exhorbitant prices for airspace during the show's commercial breaks. They keep the successful shows on longer than their shelf life because it's easier to charge a premium for airspace on a show that is a hit, and has a set number of viewers, as opposed to having to start all over again with a new, unproven show, at a lower ad rate. Yet another example of how profit-driven corporate media is enimical to quality content.
It's a good, GOOD thing that shows like BSG and Lost are setting a new precedent in terms of how and when to end a show. More power to them, I say. Yes, BSG will be missed when it ends, but if all goes well, it will not be lamented. - rebuilder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Best thing that could possibly happen to the show. They have a clear ending point in sight and they've had good time to prepare for it, so the plot should get wrapped up nicely. Who seriously wants them to drag the show along until it just fizzles out and gets abruptly cancelled?
- cybe, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3In the old series they did get to earth and had cool flying bikes and invisibility...
- mabhatter, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1they have to come up with a better ending this round. I'd like to see far past or far present... not today. They have a running thing about it all happening "over" again... perhaps the "thirteenth" colony was the real human "gods" (like the greek/roman myths) that fled the young race they created... that then became the "humans". As the Cylons populate the colonies with new civilizations they will "go to ground" and recreate humanity all over again... but they can't do it without the "spark of life" from real humans so they can be alive and not just copies of alive things.
- Supertrout, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I had high expectations for this series when it started, but it seemed more like a soap opera in space. Pretty bummed out.
- sark666, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2So have the scraped plans for that prequel series I read about and wasn't there also plans for a battlestar galatica mini movie for tv?
- AriaStar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"We thought, if we don't start paying this off and really revealing those secrets, we'll be moving in the wrong direction and get to a place where it felt like ________we were jerking off the audience________," Moore said during a conference call with reporters Friday, a day after they announced the hit show would end.
I wonder if Ronnie realizes how that sounds. - fadetoone, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Damn, you beat me.
Although, my interpretation was "Bears beats Battlestar Galactica" (be it proper grammar or not).
Impersonation is the most sincere form of flattery. - Araxen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They've know for a year! There's some irony in there somewhere.
- cresswga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The spin off I have not heard about but the mini movie about the Pegasus is still set to air before the start of the next season.
- stealthboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes, it's one of the best shows of the decade. That is precisely why it should end next season. Otherwise it'll just turn into Lost where the writers have to keep making up stuff because they aren't allowed to complete the third act.
- btgoss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I agree... this is a series about a war for survival... give me those stories. Let the spin off teach a moral lesson.
- howski, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2MICHAEL!!!!
- slapthemonkey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Good decision.
- lmdean, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm really surprised that anyone is surprised by this turn of events. Ron Moore has stated numerous times in the season 3 podcast commentaries that the show was in act three of a three act story. He dropped other hints that the fourth or fifth season would be the last. Harlan Ellison wanted to do something similar with The Starlost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlost) before the studio f**cked it up.
- jorazzle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Multiple meat headed guys in my college fraternity watch it. "Frak" is a drinking game. We're not nerds, deal with it.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Well, it HAS to end. For the "search for earth" to be never ending is just asinine.
I just hope that it's not at all like the crappy one episode Star Trek style episodes in the 2nd season or the beginning of the 3rd season. That is where it jumped the shark! Fortunately it recovered soon after they got off New Caprica.
It will be sad to see it go... But I'll look forward to the Prequel. - SolsPolaris, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Sci-Fi screwed up when they broke up SG-1 and BSG. Both shows suffered because of the genius decision.
- Aokami, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Hopefully they are taking summer classes from Joss Whedon on "How to kill off Main Characters and inflame fangirls everywhere"... The show could really use it. With the safety net they seem to have under the main cast in their scripts it got rather boring and predictable. Knowing this is the last season I might check in, but honestly I am disappointed at the failed potential.
- ubuwalker31, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I think that BSG will end up developing into a movie franchise, IMHO.
- Stonedonkey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The LOST producers pulled their heads out of their asses because viewers were leaving in droves, for reasons that have already been discussed elsewhere at length. They realized that they really couldn't jerk people around any more and had to actually give the viewers some story progression. Well, they did, and now everyone just *loves* the show all over again. I think LOST is still a crock of *****, and I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the season finale was on the drawing board mere weeks before it aired.
- pascalosti, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Finaly.... this show has been dragged on way tooo long. It had a great start but it goes down hill fast with many filler episodes in the middle. I stopped watching in middle of season 2, ill probably watch the last 2 shows of season 4 and I will not have missed anything.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That ad for ICE SPIDERS looks promising.
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