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- yocouchdigga, on 07/14/2009, -0/+34The best part about this "fight", we win! ^_^
Google, watch out for Microsoft's Special Move: Lolsuits - xyu1, on 07/14/2009, -1/+15Gotta admit that Bing looks ok, (even though it reminds me of Friends and Chandlers boss. "BING!") but this :
"Microsoft would love for everyone in the world to be using its Internet Explorer browser to search through Bing to find a story from its MSN portal to email via Hotmail or Outlook to a friend"
...just makes me cringe. I think MSN and Hotmail are seriously ugly, ad filled, annoying things. And that's without even mentioning IE. - rova, on 07/14/2009, -0/+10I agree - except it needs to be stable, integrated, well supported, and I'm happy to pay for it if it is delivering real value. Executing on innovative ideas isn't free.
- onlyseano, on 07/14/2009, -4/+13Give me a death match. Please.
- jorel009, on 07/14/2009, -0/+5they cant because google will sue them again...like it did with the vista search thing before.
- fragMasterFlash, on 07/14/2009, -3/+8The only thing either company gives a damn about is the price of their stock. The end users of their products and services are merely pawns in these corporate ghetto games.
- ghounds07, on 07/14/2009, -1/+6and if they want a better stock price they have to create a better product/innovate, which makes it good for the consumers. this is how the world works.
- CoreyTamas, on 07/14/2009, -1/+6"By copying its competitors best features, questionable licensing arrangement and using its base of accustomed users to buy it time against innovators, Microsoft has held on to is lead in the OS market for almost 30 years"
That's one of the best explanations of Microsoft's success I've ever read. Note: Before you step up to slam (or defend) Microsoft for their approach, remember that their goal is to be number one in the OS market with the widest margin possible, and nothing else. This is how they did it, and nobody else has even come close because this approach worked. - rova, on 07/14/2009, -3/+7I don't believe Microsoft will make any headway with Bing until they start to better conceptually integrate it with their desktop search, mobile search, and corporate search products. They have the attention of most people through one of those angles, they just haven't leveraged it yet to build trust in a single brand and experience.
- inkswamp, on 07/14/2009, -1/+5That's about 10 steps down the road at this point. Right now, Bing just has to be a decent search engine and it's not, not even close. I searched for a webzine I published for ten years (just shut down in 2008) and Bing had an outdated URL that we hadn't used since 2002! The link was dead but there it was at the top of Bing's search results. That's ridiculous. (FWIW, Google had the right results with the same search string.)
- imaxami, on 07/14/2009, -0/+3the balance will be found - consider it the yin and yang of the internets. it applies to all. these are not your bots.
- metaknite, on 07/14/2009, -2/+5I think its awesome to be the pawn. Profits motivate people in ways that help everyone in the long run.
- Sammi84, on 07/14/2009, -0/+3"...questionable licensing arrangement..." - What an understatement.
- chooochooo, on 07/14/2009, -6/+8All I need is good innovative FREE software....whoever can deliver them faster and better I use it.
- Alverez, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2I believe the financial term of such a coup is "En passant".
- krisrm, on 07/14/2009, -1/+3It's good to see some competition between the two "Titans of Tech" - right now it's pretty clear cut in certain areas (Google for search, Microsoft for Operating Systems), but perhaps as years move forward things will heat up and we'll see the software world start making some major progress.
- zdwade, on 07/14/2009, -1/+3dont even get me started on this versus. they both serve different purposes and as is they can both thrive. they really dont crossover into each others turf and they should keep it that way. of course they are already stepping on each others toes, its a shame.
- krisrm, on 07/14/2009, -1/+3If that's the only thing you dislike about IE, consider yourself rather unique around here...
- MrJagil, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2Prediction: The online office products will fail, and will not do any serious harm to Google. Same story for Bing. Windows 7 on the other hand, is overly praised but will be a success.
- ghostborg, on 07/14/2009, -0/+2I can't stand IE's clicking sound that I know can be disabled but seems to magically be enabled every so often when updates come down. My favorite is when I get a security update that takes out my MS Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Keep a wired set nearby.
In the end I hope Google brings more software and better hardware support to the Linux world. - Myztry, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1"while Microsoft announced that Office 10 will include free, online versions of its four most popular software programs"
If you need to hand over cash then it's not free - it's included in the price. It's Microsoft's version of the 'free' mobile phone you get on expensive plans. - agarc, on 07/14/2009, -1/+2Poorly written article...lots of inaccuracies.
- spunker202, on 07/14/2009, -1/+2True, but everyone's gotta admit that the beta release of 7 was already a pure win, and that the fall retail edition has already been predicted as a real worthy OS sucessor to xp by the computer press.
Google litterally owns the search market and I predict it will remain so,
and if Chrome OS makes its way, it'll maybe just be a new fancy Os alternative for the "advanced/pro" pc users, whereas most casual users will remain on Ms products.
Take an average female employee for instance, she has learned the computer basics on Windows, do you really think she'll switch to a whole new OS just because it's a new thing ?
This situation is the perfect examples why Linux isn't breaking the market altough it's more reliable than a Xp, go explain to a casual user that for installing a program you have to type : sudo apt-get install "programname"
The sucess of Ms even tough it's kinda *****, it's its simplicity. And the reason why Mac became popular over the last years, it's mainly because it's part of an apple trend, and all trends tend to die.
Sorry for mixing many ideas in my text, but this topic is just so wide. - jasonh1234, on 07/15/2009, -0/+1Times change. The romance with Intel, Dell, etc. is over. Divorce papers have been ordered and they're looking forward to seeing other people.
- sexybobo, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1I think Chrome OS Is going to mainly compete in the netbook arena i don't think google will be trying to push it as a normal desktop OS. at least not right away.
- V3NOM, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1I don't think it's a shame if it produces a better product in the end. Competition drives innovation. As long as they don't go too all-out in trying to bring eachother down it should be fine.
- ranon78, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Google had better watch it's back. Microsoft, when it want's to, has been able to pulverise opposition time and time again.
- iBenx, on 07/14/2009, -3/+4Right now if Google and Microsoft fought it out Microsoft would probably win, give it 2 years, either Windows 7 will be a flop, or the newly announced Google OS will become triumphant, but like Google Chrome I don't expect it to be a common household item.
- wallclimber, on 07/15/2009, -0/+1@spunker202: "True, but everyone's gotta admit that the beta release of 7 was already a pure win..."
Sorry, but not everyone's "gotta admit" any such thing. Win7 is hardly a pure win. At best, it's been described as better than Vista...Not exactly a high hurdle, eh? Maybe that's the genius of Microsoft's marketing strategy; create something so awful that the next version will have to shine by comparison, even if it's still pretty bad. I'd hardly call that a "pure win." - Myztry, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Yup. They're screwed...
- sexybobo, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1try using bing. It looks cool and has some innovating features but untill they can get there search results any were near as good as google they won't take off.
- r3bol, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1Google's Chrome browser is oddly only available for Windows? LOL
- IKORKYI, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1the only one that might "win" from this is consumers
- funkywood, on 07/15/2009, -0/+1Agree about the name. What was wrong with Live.com? At least that meant something and might give some less techy users the impression of its results being more up to date vs Google's bigger universe of content as well as being congruent with instant messaging and live mesh. Like you say, say Bing and everyone thinks of Chandler.
It's as bad a decision by marketting as Ask.com getting rid of Jeeves. He was the one thing that made people think to ask it questions even if the results were crap. It combined with Wolfram Alpha could have been the seemingly intelligent search for question and answers and more importantly, easily remembered by users. Technically best doesn't always win.
Oh and one more marketting idea: why doesn't MS. Google or Yahoo buy out Mail.com with its crap ad filled service but huge range of domains so you can choose an email address without a 3 figure number on the end? - sexybobo, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-chann ...
- Fisky22, on 07/14/2009, -0/+0I think it underscores two very different coroprate visions, and the difficulties in executing them. While there are of course similarities Google's minimalist vision of PCs and and cloud computing contrasts Microsoft's traditional views. I was reading this article: https://www.mindreign.com/en/mindshare/Technology/ ... when I came across a similar discussion about the future of computing.
- NoobpwnYa, on 07/14/2009, -1/+1third-ed
- briLo, on 07/14/2009, -0/+0A Wired article comparing Google vs Microsoft and all you touch on is Browsers, advertising and a small portion of Operating Systems.
Waste of an article. - ep53, on 07/14/2009, -1/+1Data IS a free commodity by nature irrespective of how long it took to create it. Providing it IS also free in the correct model i.e. mutually beneficial scenarios like open source models and Privileged Groups you become ad target for complimentary goods or developing in house software and sharing it for free gains you other industry benefits. Google has it spot on. Microsoft blossomed pre internet and pre free flowing data era. Their core business is flawed, it's just a matter of time for transition to Google Apps.
- primatage, on 07/14/2009, -2/+1seconded.
- jmptexas, on 07/14/2009, -1/+0Nothing drives innovation like the promise of being able to give it away for free! Maybe microsoft programs can sell ads like Google. Maybe as I'm writing in word, if I type 'books', a huge ad for amazon can pop up! That would be awesome.



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