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- rtaibah, on 05/22/2009, -43/+438And Hardy Heron will arrive in 20 days...
- DEaDIRiS, on 04/05/2008, -22/+359Dear Bill, I'd rather you take five years and give us a truly overhauled windows successor
signed,
Most Everyone - tnatharik, on 04/05/2008, -48/+354Vista has officially become millennium.
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -46/+231Beware. Bill speaks in dog years.
- bridgeyman, on 04/05/2008, -14/+159Soon, "when pigs fly" will be replaced with "when Windows ships"
- fogofeternity, on 04/05/2008, -7/+102I think this is largely a non-story based on over-analysis of a comment. There's a huge difference between talking about development schedules and a significant change in policy regarding the long-term shipping date.
- Trax91, on 04/05/2008, -25/+9580% of the computer users, that's who!
- Darmichar, on 04/05/2008, -13/+76Would someone please get it through Redmond's skulls that we don't want eye candy, we want a stable, secure OS.
If I want Widgets and other shiny doo-dads on my desktop I'll find someone in the aftermarket to provide them.
Just focus on the OS, leave the customization up to me. - debuggercll, on 04/05/2008, -8/+66Finally, some good news.
- Varz, on 04/05/2008, -13/+66They've said that Windows 7 will be a total rebuild of Windows, so much so that it will lose binary compatibility will older versions of Windows. Like Apple did when they went with OSX.
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -4/+56Compelling counterargument!
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -38/+87Vista is nowhere near that bad. I'm still not sure why everyone rags on Vista without really providing any reasons to say it's such a terrible OS...
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -9/+57Let's see... 1year+6 years of delay=7 years. 7 years until it is done
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -10/+50'Next year' means 2020.
- bitterg, on 04/05/2008, -5/+45This story is *****. Gates did not say that Windows 7 will arrive next year. We don't know what he meant.
Tired of blogs blowing stories out of context for cheap page views. - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -17/+57Is Ubuntu the only ***** distro you guys can talk about? Fedora 9 comes out in 24 days...
- pkaoc, on 04/05/2008, -14/+53*And practically no n00bs will notice or care...
- Theli, on 04/05/2008, -2/+38People who bought Vista and people who didn't buy Vista.
- Ramble, on 04/05/2008, -8/+44They tried that, both with 2000 and Vista. Both are radically different from before, everytime this happens you get someone like you complaining things don't work or that it's slow. You don't want new, you just want another version of XP.
- potterboy, on 04/05/2008, -2/+33Longhorn coming Fall 2003
- fuckingusername, on 04/05/2008, -22/+53 windows 7 ME
- Mejogid, on 04/05/2008, -3/+33Partly to follow the *nix philosophy of "release early, release often", which has the aim of keeping things moving quickly and resulting in rigourous end user testing of new features. However, more importantly because they're following the Gnome release schedule so that each release includes a polished version of the latest version of Gnome. While there's not a huge amount of change in Hardy (it's an LTS release geared at reliability and a long lifetime), compare Hardy to Dapper: over just two years (well, slightly less - 22 months) there's been a massive change to most areas of the distribution, particularly if you compare it to the bundle of questionable improvements present in Vista.
- cderry, on 04/05/2008, -2/+30Windows 7 appears to be rather awkward and red-haired. Also, it appears it will never "give you up" which is always comforting.
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -7/+35Because it caches those applications you commonly use so they open quicker? Why would you only have 1GB of RAM in the year 2008? What's the point in having RAM if it's not used?
I hear this same argument all the time and it boils down to being like you just bought a brand-new sports car that you're never going to take on the highway. Shouldn't you complain about it NOT using what you have? - newbill123, on 04/05/2008, -7/+35Bill Gates is right: 2009 will see a new release of Windows. Under the hood it will be Vista SP2, but all of Microsoft marketing will be working to distance itself from the name and image of Vista as hard as they worked to bury the memories of Windows ME.
Both Vista and XP will be "killed", and Windows Next will be what's provided to OEM's. A $100 rebate will be offered for Vista owners, but all those XP owners will have to pay the full price.
If they can get Jay Leno to stop making Vista jokes and make Apple drop Vista as a big target in their Mac vs. PC ads. Well, then the campaign will have succeeded even if there's no real technical change beneath the hood. - inactive, on 04/05/2008, -6/+33You kids all miss the point. The point isn't that people should buy more ram, it's that there's no real *reason* to buy more ram. When the OS demands more and gives you a poorer experience, that's not an upgrade. Vista demands the latest hardware and still runs slower than XP on 90% of apps including your precious games. Microsoft doesn't see XP as a revenue stream so they keep trying to force feed OEMs and the public Vista. They *survive* by keeping people on an OS upgrade treadmill. XP is no treadmill, therefore they only keep selling licenses for XP Pro to businesses out of necessity because there's been such an industry outcry against Vista.
I work in IT, in a small business (about 100 employees) and we have no plans to rollout Vista. Why not? Well, we have a CAD design group and none of their CAD applications are coded for Vista. The CAD companies say "we're looking at it but don't count on a Vista-compatible release". Same goes for our ERP software. Same goes for every custom app we use in-house.
When you're running a business, from an IT perspective, you find what works well enough for everyone and stick with it. We have to deal with enough day to day BS with XP Pro and the Office2k3 suite without causing a *****-ton more trouble. Fact is, XP Pro is mature, well-known, and performs predictably which makes it easy to use and support. Microsoft has been holding XP SP3 hostage to try and push Vista adoption, but the majority of businesses simply can't move on.
Also take into consideration the size of our business. With 100 employees, retrofitting or just flat out buying new workstations, just to simply run Vista, that's a huge bankroll that is hard to justify. I know most of you Diggers find things like this hard to believe, but once you get out into the job market and actually work on/with computers in businesses it'll become a little more clear. - scotticus, on 04/05/2008, -8/+33Smells like Mac smug in here...
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -4/+29Good point I hate it when my $500 graphics card maxs out, I want it running at 30% all the time
- MioTheGreat, on 04/05/2008, -7/+31It's much closer to Windows 2000 than any other release.
It's a huge technology release. No system was left without massive changes. New driver models, new stacks everywhere (Audio, network, graphics, etc), huge changes to process security, etc.
Vista cements NT as the OS foundation Microsoft will be using for years to come. ME, on the other hand, was a last attempt to make some money off of 9x before it finally died. - Jeffler, on 04/05/2008, -0/+24Not only was this all not funny, none of you guys even got the lyrics correct.
- FreddieD, on 04/05/2008, -8/+31It made my computer act one CPU generation slower than it did on Windows XP, it did not play nice with others as most of my peripherals either had insufficient or no drivers at all, and when I realized that aside from the nice new Media Center I had no reason at all to really have it (none of my applications were Vista-only or anything), it became pretty clear to me.
We rag on Vista because it was a rush job that was handled like crap. But don't take my word for it, Microsoft VP's say the same thing in internal emails that were made public with the "Vista Capable" class action lawsuit. - thenome, on 04/05/2008, -6/+29It's a good thing too, my Vista box really needs an upgrade and quickly.
- Murdats, on 04/05/2008, -2/+25except then they complain how they are paying for something which is the same as what they have now.
they even do that with vista, which has a significant number of changes.
microsoft has a choice, change everything and have people complain about having to relearn everything and how its so different, or keep things familiar and have people complain about how its the same as what they already have.
people complain about what microsoft does no matter what, I have even seen on a number of occasion people complain about the bill and melinda gates foundation giving away billions. - TheSabre, on 04/05/2008, -3/+25Ok. So the same can be said about new versions of ANY commercial software. Let's all go back to using Photoshop 6 and Office 2000.
- turpenine, on 04/05/2008, -0/+21because they release on a given time period over a given amount of new features, that way no matter what feature they add your not waiting too long for a new release, also you don't have to pay for each new release so why complain?
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -3/+23reality:
DOS: DOS, Windows 3.1
Meta-DOS: Windows 95, 98, ME
NT: NT
Meta-NT: 2000
2000 clone with a nice theme: XP (initially buggy, years in use made it stable) - bubbakja, on 04/05/2008, -1/+19No, but I went and buried it for trying to plug your submission in another thread.
- scotticus, on 04/05/2008, -3/+21Say that 3-times fast and I bet you'll say "Hairy Hardon"
- 16777216, on 04/05/2008, -1/+19Cool!
Although I use Ubuntu now I started on Mandrake then quickly went to Fedora Core when it came out.
I am glad to see that it too is progressing quite nicely.
I just have grown to hate RPM which is the main reason I don't use Fedora. - geobay, on 04/05/2008, -1/+18If all you're looking at is the Gnome desktop and proclaiming that not much has changed, then you may be right. The changes are mostly internal and at a glance, your probably not going to see a big difference.
On this system, the speed improvements over the releases are noticeable, and wireless support has improved. If you don't use Ubuntu every day, then I can imagine how it would seem that nothing has changed when in fact it has. - seventoes, on 04/05/2008, -1/+17You obviously, if you spent the time to come to the story and comment on it.
- doshindude, on 04/05/2008, -4/+20Download XP on The Pirate Bay.
- kelmaster1, on 04/05/2008, -23/+39Oh shut up... You obviously don't run vista. Vista is a solid os, I don't understand why people bitch about it. If you know how to configure vista (and get past all the annoying admin rights *****), and you have a MINIMUM of 2gb of ram for 32-bit or 4gb of ram for 64-bit it's great. It has a slightly different structure, its got a different boot loader and a different memory paging system that uses more ram when idling but in turn makes file browsing much faster. Vista is just designed for the future, it uses a lot of ram but if you have plenty of ram in the first place it hauls ass. 2-gb ram is the bare minimum, don't bash vista till you try it out on a good pc.
Win ME on the other hand was a disaster.. - po43292, on 04/05/2008, -3/+18It's going to release with Duke Nukem Forever.
- inactive, on 04/05/2008, -2/+15problem is "we" dosnt account for the bulk of their sales.
- diggrim, on 04/05/2008, -3/+16Debian, FTW
- falstaff, on 04/05/2008, -1/+1480% of users at the time were fine with Windows 95. I bet MS (and the rest of the computing world) wished they had never continued to develop the OS further! Microsoft Bad! *grunt*
- TheSabre, on 04/05/2008, -2/+1596.583% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- KillPenguin, on 04/05/2008, -1/+13*Hey*, *why* are you *emphasizing* so *many* *WORDS*?
- getrealnow, on 04/05/2008, -1/+13Its not very effective! Use splash!
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