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- vfreak2, on 06/01/2008, -1/+158The blurb of this article not really what the article's about. Here's a better summary: most of the world's BitTorrent traffic is currently handled by three sites (TPB, Mininova, isoHunt), and they are all involved in court cases right now, the turn-outs of which are not clear yet. There are some alternative ways of searching for torrents, but they have problems like spam, and fakes uploaded by people (I mean greedy animals) like MediaDefender, due to the fact that it's un-moderated and free-for-all.
The end. - zaldoe, on 06/01/2008, -3/+69the real question is ... will RIAA become obsolete ?
- ElBeh, on 06/01/2008, -0/+63*All* technology eventually becomes obsolete and has something else take its place because it's better at doing a certain function (See 3.5-inch floppies and CDs and tape-recorders and MP3-players), the only question is "how soon?" Will BitTorrent become obsolete or near-obsolete one day? Yes. Soon? Hell no.
- WhipkickeN, on 06/01/2008, -0/+51I still play my Sega Genesis from time to time, its not obsolete.
- fubar109, on 06/01/2008, -5/+45Once you go to private trackers, you don't go back.
- mellophone, on 06/01/2008, -0/+36I'm still excited about the resiliency of The Wheel.
- inactive, on 06/01/2008, -5/+38everything becomes obsolete. Yes, even your 16GB of DDR3 RAM, yes, even your Core2Quad, yeah, your PS3, Yes your LCD monitor, all of it. Just give it a couple years.
- gutistg, on 06/01/2008, -0/+25I still play Sega Genesis games all the time. Just not on a console connected to my television.
- aladrin, on 06/01/2008, -0/+24There has -always- been a handful of good torrent sites since bittorrent was created. Maybe you don't remember the panic when SuprNova died, but I do. It died within a couple months and TPB pretty much took over. If all 3 of those died TODAY, we'd have good replacements (possibly even better, as that's what happened after SN died) within a couple months, and we'd still have a ton of little sites in the mean time.
This is truly nothing to worry over. - omgItsJon, on 06/01/2008, -0/+17Yeah that's a pretty accurate summary. However, they seem to say that new BT technology would be needed to replace the Big 3; in reality though, if one of those three were brought down, another, very similar site would take it's place (most likely).
- lcmatt, on 06/01/2008, -3/+20Agreed. While keeping a ratio can be annoying sometimes you can't beat the speeds, community and other features.
- msmaggie, on 06/01/2008, -1/+16This is a great read for anyone who follows new search technology. The new applications discussed could have many search applications besides replacing centralized BitTorrent sites. vfreak2 is right that the summary doesn't really explain the article much and his summary is much better.
- houndeyex, on 06/01/2008, -0/+13It already is. Artists don't seriously need record companies anymore.
- cadmiumpaint, on 06/01/2008, -2/+15most people who casually torrent don't have the time to put up with the childish superiority complexes of people in private trackers, nor do they have the desire to try and figure out how to join one.
good stuff leaks its way onto mainstream public sites anyhow. - theRIAA, on 06/01/2008, -0/+11even if something is old and outdated, it doesn't mean it's never used, your mom for example
- adikt, on 06/01/2008, -5/+16What? How do you do tha.... oh I see what you did there.... allusion to emulation!
- D4rkDrago0n, on 06/01/2008, -1/+11Oh crap, I don't want bittorrent to turn into gnutella or ed2k
- Muyoso, on 06/01/2008, -2/+11The thing is, they dont even mention private torrent sites, which have NO spam, which are heavily moderated, and which are fairly safe from groups like mediadefender, etc. I stopped using public torrents years ago, because it was cluttered with fake torrents, viruses and TERRIBLE speeds. The future is private torrent sites, like TL, TD, Revtt, Bitmetv, TDC, etc, all of which I am a member of and are great.
- geoken, on 06/01/2008, -0/+9Trackerless unmoderated torrents? Even with edonkey I used various sites for finding downloads rather than the built in search capabilities that the protocol allowed.
- ileftfark, on 06/01/2008, -1/+9Have you ever download a pr0- er, movie from megaupload or rapidshare? Unless you have a (paid) account, it takes *days* due to their wait times and downloading limits. For small files, you can use shareminer.com or g2p.org to find songs, albums, smaller programs, but when downloading larger files, rapidshare and megaupload are not even close substitutes for BT.
Also- for share ratios: Is it really that hard to seed a file that you yourself just downloaded from others that were kind enough to seed for you? Let uTorrent or whatever just run overnight while you're in dreamland, and you will be contributing back to the community that supports your needs. - Ksg89, on 06/01/2008, -1/+8Hopefully not any time soon. These "top 3" do a very good job of keeping all/most of the crap out, with community help. If it goes back to decentralized method, it only takes a few nodes to infect "torrent" files before theres viruses and fake contents.
- TheLD, on 06/01/2008, -1/+8Not until people stop buying music that they "protect"
- fLUx1337, on 06/01/2008, -2/+9People who moan about ratios are the people who we don't want in private sites anyway!
Do I get a better experience because I use private trackers rather than the left-over style public ones, max out my connection on anything, and never get any fake or virus infected files - in a word: "yes" - mamboboy, on 06/01/2008, -0/+6Wait, people still use DC++?
- inactive, on 06/01/2008, -1/+6It would be nice to have something like Digg and Cubit put together. Let's say from the Cubit plugin, you can see the amount of diggs, and even access commentaries. The commentaries would need to be distributed somehow, but we have done such systems like that before (i.e. mail-lists, usenet, or even basic torrent attachments to torrents). Diggnation may not like the thought of being distributed -- being taken away from their central moderation. I'd imagine even Digg would go for it if they hosted an OpenID brokerage just to foot authority into the distributed comments and moderation.
- Memnochxx, on 06/01/2008, -0/+5Yeah, connecting to and searching on that DC hub is real decentralized.
- BananaGrabber, on 06/01/2008, -0/+5I'm finding myself replacing my bit torrent needs rapidshare/megaupload. I can't remember the last time I opened up utorrent. There's tons of different forum communities that are sharing music, movies, television show, books, comics, and games using those free upload sites. Also, search engine sites like http://megadownload.net are making it easy to find most things you want. There a few downsides like wait times and captchas, but it's much of a problem. I'd prefer those things over having to upload 24/7 to keep my ratio up.
- ledguitar, on 06/01/2008, -1/+6Everything does become obsolete in your case. But you are only talking about hardware; hardware that will soon be improved and thus will not be able to handle software. But bittorrent sites are not hardware. There is as of right now, no work being made to replace them They will soon develop DDR4 RAM and make DDR3 obsolete but there is no better widespread alternative to torrent sites right now. So I don't think they will become obsolete.
- MOJIRA, on 06/01/2008, -0/+4Hulu and the ABC.com HD players are putting a significant dent in my torrenting of television shows. But games and software are still fair game!
- waydee, on 06/01/2008, -0/+4I've used rapidshare before, it's really a very small price to pay for the amount of stuff on it and the guaranteed speeds. Of course you could get the same thing, most likely with more choice on usenet but when you really need something and would rather not sit on some public tracker at 30kb/sec rapidshare is a good way to go, even with the small daily/monthly charge.
- kingUssop, on 06/02/2008, -0/+3It only costs $30 for 3 months of premium. That's no limits direct downloading as much stuff as you want every day at high speed. 25gb per every 5 days cap. It's worth the money to me, but maybe others have extremely good luck with torrents and don't get the endless seeding issues / poor download speeds I get off them.
- autobulb, on 06/02/2008, -0/+3Philbert: I had the same problem with two different sites. It's actually kind of disheartening when you have a good ratio that well surpasses the standards for a good account and they just lose your account info. It makes me not want to be a part of a site that requires you to conform to their standards yet they have none towards its users.
- CaviMike, on 06/01/2008, -0/+3No.
- BananaGrabber, on 06/01/2008, -0/+3I do hate the rapidshare's download limits so I tend to stay away from that site if I have to download more than one large file, but megaupload doesn't have one as far as I can tell. Sometimes it's a bit annoying when you have to download separate rars to complete one huge file, but a minute wait time per 250mb isn't a big deal. Either way, I tend use streaming sites for videos, which is also part of the reason I rarely use bittorrent anymore.
I have nothing against bit torrent's model of sharing. Whenever I do use it, I always make sure I share back. The thing is that bit torrent rarely uses more than half of my download speed potential. It especially sucks when there aren't many seeder. What's the point when I can use a megaupload at full speed and not have upload back? Also, I''m not the only person who uses the internet in my house and bit torrent tends to slow down everyone elses connection to a crawl. I have some nocturnal people in my house so leaving bit torrent overnight isn't really an option.
I don't have a paid account, but I'm starting to think it would be worth it. - FrankFutter, on 06/01/2008, -0/+3well, it's certainly irrelevant now. Buncha asshats in suits.
- wush, on 06/01/2008, -0/+3I don't think that's a surprise to anyone
- frieddonuts, on 06/02/2008, -0/+3I've been investing in The Wheel for years, very consistent.
- inactive, on 06/01/2008, -0/+3Kademlia FTW!
- expert01, on 06/02/2008, -1/+4***** you. People like you that try to beat the system are a real pain in the ass. I was one of the people that helped with the development of the TorrentBits anti-cheating script, and I got a big one coming for the likes of you.
- inactive, on 06/02/2008, -1/+3It already is obselete. Rapidshare is quicker and much easier.
- aserer511, on 06/01/2008, -0/+2universities are working on the next BT? :bowdown:
- Elderon, on 06/02/2008, -0/+2Private trackers scare me. It's not that I don't mind having to keep ratios, it's just that I don't trust them. Plenty of private trackers have been shut down by the authorities and I just don't know how well security policies are for them. Did they keep ip logs? what information/messages are stored on their servers? The last thing I want is for a private tracker to get raided and than get a lawsuit letter as they go through the user database.
- Phillyzero, on 06/01/2008, -3/+5Private trackers is where the quality remains anyway, in all forms of media. Also the speeds of private trackers are only beat by IRC and Newsgroups, but are almost always the highest when compared to public torrent trackers.
- Muyoso, on 06/01/2008, -1/+3Or you could join a private tracker and download a 7 gb 360 game in 40 minutes like I do.
- DarrylWatts, on 06/01/2008, -0/+2I love digg. Torrent technology may one day burn out, but it will pave the way for more efficient technology. Clever programmers and hackers alike will innovate some new way of file sharing...just look at the past
- duckyinc, on 06/01/2008, -0/+2Or you can pay £6 per month and stop wasting your time uploading and increase your download speeds
- Aensland, on 06/02/2008, -0/+2How are torrents more "retard friendly" than http downloads? Click on a link, done. Doesn't get any easier than that.
- duckyinc, on 06/02/2008, -0/+2Private trackers are the easiest targets L0L
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