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- virginian9000, on 08/25/2008, -12/+268Until Google stops innovating, I can't agree that its lost its mojo.
- T440, on 08/25/2008, -7/+157The amateurism of this article is unbelievable. Just read this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/05/business/05nocer ...
There you go, that was pretty much his 50% of his article written 1000% better. The other 50% is about:
1.) A guy, who had worked for Microsoft for 8 years, left and worked for Google for 1 year and realized that he'd rather work at Microsoft so he quit his job at Google to go back to Microsoft.
2.) Google's stock price falling from it's once hyper inflated $740/share price.
3.) G-mail still having a "beta" stamp on it...really?
If this guy's books are anything like his articles, I feel sorry for anyone that had spent money on any one of his 35 books. - Noxat, on 08/25/2008, -21/+116As long as Google continues to provide a decent web search, I could care less about anything else they do.
- davewelsh79, on 08/25/2008, -8/+60Buried for "'could' care less".
- agsinger, on 08/25/2008, -9/+57are you kidding me?
"Google has gone from innovative upstart to fat-and-happy industry leader in what seems like record time. Put simply, the search giant has lost its mojo. That's good news for Microsoft, and it could affect how you use Google's cloud computing services."
Microsoft is a FAR more 'fat-and-happy' corporate entity than Google. What a load of BS - if anyone could inject mojo into the space it would be a startup - not another monolithic company that doesn't take chances. Big companies don't have mojo, they are slow moving and careful. You want mojo, look at new companies. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/25/2008, -9/+54I wonder who hired the PR firm to spread this FUD.
Google is still going strong. - BlockedUser, on 08/25/2008, -12/+52Scrolll do the bottom of the article.
"Preston Gralla is a Computerworld contributing editor and the author of more than 35 books, including How the Internet Works and Windows Vista in a Nutshell."
You're gonna take advice from a guy who wrote crap like that??? - theillest1, on 08/25/2008, -1/+36Wow, this article totally opened my eyes. Now I'm going to start using CUIL!
//sarcasmz// - smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -2/+37I think google should train bears that can serve as paramedics. They totally have the resources to train at least 20 per month, with a steady output for many glorious years to come.
- suckanucka, on 08/25/2008, -13/+47Oh come on, its now trendy to hate Google?
The reasons for this anti-Google news are absolute *****.
The blame on stock price is another joke. - nervoustwit, on 08/25/2008, -0/+25God forbid I should use the services of a company that doesn't have mojo!
- Janv1er, on 08/25/2008, -12/+35Google hasn't lost anything
- Cupantae, on 08/25/2008, -0/+17Non-English?! How dare they? Seriously, though, I honestly almost always find what I want on page 1. Maybe your internet is broken
- bitterscream, on 08/25/2008, -1/+17Im really surprised at myself for not trying other search engines when trying to solve difficult computer problems. I still feel that if its not on Google then its not on the net.
- kipmartin, on 08/25/2008, -4/+21If these writers knew as much as they want you to believe they do, they'd all be getting rich playing the stock market.
Those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, write for Computerworld. - skidooer, on 08/25/2008, -3/+18Google already is making a Linux-based OS. It's called Android.
- form3hide, on 08/25/2008, -1/+16Why should they make a linux based OS?
- beuwolf, on 08/25/2008, -3/+16Buying companies is innovation?!?
In that case Microsoft is the most innovative company int he world. - mthmchris, on 08/25/2008, -3/+14This is stupid. I agree that Google has nowhere to go but down, but this guy's reasons are silly. "Google doubles the price of its daycare". Uh... not usually a common harbinger of decline. "Google's stock price has slipped". Uh... the market itself has slipped a whole lot in that same time, and 90% of a stock's performance is based on the market and the industry.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=QQQQ - inajeep, on 08/25/2008, -1/+12Is this another 'the sky is falling' article or a 'pay attention to me by writing something inflammatory' article?
- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -3/+14Honestly, they are becoming a "regular company". It seems all companies forget that it is the employees that make the company work, and you need to take care of them..
- KirbyMorph, on 08/25/2008, -3/+13WTF is this article going on about? There's not a single broken feature with Gmail or Google Docs or other aps to my knowledge - at least, nothing on par with MS or other competitors.
There's nothing even remotely noteworthy from this little 12 year old rant against Google. His main points are daycare price doubling, stock prices and an ex-MS employee going back to MS - all of which have nothing to do with Google's "mojo" (whatever thats supposed to mean).
***** like this shouldn't be on the front page of Digg. It's a fluff piece and filler designed to get traffic by making up ***** arguements against the internet poster boy, Google. While Google is far from perfect, they could have chosena million different reasons for it losing its 'mojo' than the fluff piece reasons they chose here. - strictnein, on 08/25/2008, -1/+11Try advertising with Google and see how far up their asses they've gone. Your account will get slapped, reviewed, flagged, stopped, etc and no one you talk to will have any idea why it's happening, what you should do about it (other than refer to worthless and inapplicable knowledge base articles), and if it will ever change. They're the only company I've ever dealt with that make it difficult to spend money with.
- mvest20, on 08/25/2008, -1/+10Google may be becoming just another company, but they're just another company that is dominating the internet market. If daycare privileges for employees (which still wasn't eliminated, mind you) is an indicator that an entire company is losing its innovative edge, how come almost nobody else even offers a daycare service for employees?
- asnider, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8@Cupantae Non-English search results are generally not helpful and not desirable for people who are searching with queries written in English. If I search for something in English, give me results in English. If I search for something in French, give me results in French. Don't give me French results for an English search query.
Having said that, I agree with you that I can almost always find what I want on the first page of results. - Wargasmic, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8I like this idea better.
- asnider, on 08/25/2008, -0/+8Except that, especially in business situations, Gmail users are still a minority. Regardless of whether Gmail is the best email option or not, it's completely false to say that it's displaced "every other e-mail option."
- deadbaby, on 08/25/2008, -1/+9The premise of this article is pretty flimsy. Company subsidized daycare IS a luxury. Employee's cashing in and leaving is typical of any successful company. You could apply this reasoning to say 95% of the companies in America have "lost their mojo" It's irrelevant unless it starts effecting the products/services and so far it has not.
- FredFredrickson, on 08/25/2008, -2/+9What good would that do them?
- IphtashuFitz, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8And what you're describing is precisely the reason why large companies, IT organizations, etc. won't migrate to "software-as-a-service" models like GMail, Google Apps, etc. unless they're very stable and not considered "beta" software. Which is more stable, a PC with Microsoft Excel loaded onto it, or a third party web-based spreadsheet application? The IT department has control over applying software updates, patches, etc. to the PC but has no control over the web app. The PC will be relatively stable for years. The web app could have a bug that prevents you from using exponents in math formulas one day and a bug that prevents you from saving changes the next. If your office is in the middle of a major audit you're not going to go applying software updates to Excel until the audit is complete. But if Google decides to apply patches to their web app you have no control over it at all, and it could introduce new bugs that makes your audit even more difficult to complete. Which would you prefer to use?
- ChayesFSS, on 08/25/2008, -3/+10better to have it and lost it
then to never have had it in the first place (msn, yahoo, altavista, etc...) - HyperJack, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7//lolz//
- chillypacman, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6You've never used Vista.
- Tyrghast, on 08/25/2008, -3/+9Microsoft is one of the most successful companies in the last 50 years, do you really think they have anything to learn from Google? If anything, Microsoft is the wizened old sage and it is going to teach a young grasshopper named Google.
- dericko, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8In general, Google takes better care of it's employees than any other job I've seen...
- norbiu, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6http://incompetech.com/Images/caring.png
- fwertz, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6Google Healthcare Bears Beta.
- Filipp0, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6"do you really think they have anything to learn from Google?"
Yes.
And do I think Google has a lot to learn from MS?
Yes.
None of the companies are perfect but both are very ***** good. - benologist, on 08/25/2008, -9/+15Increasing gmail storage and recreating Office 3.0 is not exactly innovation...
- aldableep3, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7thank you...
- aeoo, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6Google needs to be criticized, but the criticism should be valid.
- OneLess, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6You're 24? I kind of hope you're high, but it's midday on a Monday...
- gothicform, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Yeah. It's the same with those of us running Adsense stuff on our websites. I can sell them privately to advertisers for $6.00 per 1000 page views, but Google competes my Adsense prices with like-minded websites pricing them down to $0.80. Until about a year ago it had been rock solid at $2.00 plus for years and then suddenly slid and slid.
The fact that other like-minded websites are not in newspapers like the New York Times and on the BBC frequently quoted as an *important* source is neither here nor there to Google. People pay for prestige and respectability but Google are unable to factor in such things because these are intrinsically human and not decided by an algorithm. I see it not as generic web advertising on my websites, these are specialist niche sites.
I left Adsense because I was unable to set the CPM for my websites and got fed up with them undercharging so much. In competing with getting advertisers from other places they drive their prices down and down and they know that those with Adsense have very few options if they own mid-sized sites and are not American. I know some of the advertisers who were advertising on the sites via Adsense personally and know they would pay a lot more and couldn't believe what a bargain they were getting. I replaced their adverts with adverts selling ad space myself and make over six times as much which on one website alone is another 6,000 dollars a month!
Google actually wants to perpetuate this by their rules which say people can't even mention what CPM they are getting. There's no way of comparing so no-one can see if they are being ripped off. Webmasters who try to get changes made are simply pushed off the programme. Adsense, in my book is well past it's sell-by date. Until website owners can set the CPM themselves, it's pretty much useless. Advertisers don't have to pay the CPM but I think webmasters know as well as Google just how much advertising is worth. - fugazied, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7But he has PROOF!
- Childcare cuts!
- An employee left!
- Stock has declined since a particular month in history!
Ridiculous article. Why do a lot of 'journalists' (bloggers writing for somewhat credible sources) now produce crap that a casual blogger wouldn't be stupid enough to write. The answer? Ridiculous articles by "authority sources" get a lot of pageviews and ad revenue. Some dodgy premise and a spurious conclusion and lots of traffic. - IphtashuFitz, on 08/25/2008, -12/+17But the article makes good points regarding "beta" software and the constant flow of bugs. No company in their right mind would rely on beta software, even from a company as prestigious as Google. And no IT department is going to rely on third party "live" software if it's constantly being updated and those updates routinely introduce new/different bugs.
Google can innovate all they want. I think a lot of their stuff is pretty cool. But innovation means nothing if they can't provide stable production-quality software that corporations are willing to make use of. Without those corporate clients Google loses out on a lot of much needed revenue. - Ledwolf555, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7"It seems like every week 10% of all the features are broken.... And it's a different 10% every week -- the old bugs are getting fixed, the new ones introduced."
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you guys will.. LOL) but isn't this almost a universal problem. Seems like our IT dept here at work fights a different battle every week. Server issues one day, the next day it's something else... - FutureGuy, on 08/25/2008, -6/+11Googles' hypocrisy makes me sick. On one had Google is playing the open source game against MS and playing itself up as the biggest open source supporter but at the same time none of its core products (i.e. products that bring in $s) are open source, NONE. Google is the wolf in sheeps clothing, one the most cunning tech company around.
- aladrin, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5I think his point was that Google is no longer 'different' than Microsoft, so MS has a better chance now.
It's *****, but that's what he was trying to say. - estvir, on 08/26/2008, -2/+6No one said they aren't particularly not going strong but rather they've lost their 'mojo.'
If you tools actually read the article and didn't have a knee-jerk "OMG M$ PAID PEOPLZPLZ TO WRITE THEIS GOOGLE4EVER" you would have realised.
Is computerworld.com being paid by a PR firm every time it writes one of it's billion anti-Microsoft stories that have next to no basis and are full of lies? Is Digg full of people paid to digg stories every time an anti-Microsoft story makes it to the frontpage?
Or do these theories simply come about when precious Google, Apple or FOSS have something slightly negative said about? - estvir, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4If you look at the amount of companies bought by Google / MS in the past year or so Google has bought WAY more.
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