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- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -3/+42Instead of dicking around with this, why doesn't ICANN do something useful for a change, like get rid of top-level domain-name restrictions entirely? There's no technical reason that we have to be stuck with a finite number of .whatevers. It creates a fake "shortage" and a field day for squatters. The only TLDs that are even enforced anymore are gov, edu, and mil, and those can stay restricted.
- loof, on 11/01/2007, -1/+16.com, .net and .org are really the only tlds anyone uses. Flooding the internet with more tlds isn't going to change that
- prisoner24601, on 11/01/2007, -1/+13ICANN would love to do what you are suggesting, precisely because it would force fedex.com to immediately spend a bunch of money to register not only fedex.info, fedex.org, and other common TLDs, but also fedex.hater, fedex.pigglywiggly, fedex.sponge, fedex.roocks, fedex.clickme, etc. At about $10 a pop, ICANN couldn't be happier to accommodate you, but it wouldn't do a thing to relieve the "shortage of good names" because everyone with the .com will immediately register the equivalent .whatever and sue into oblivion anyone trying to "parallel" them. Adding more TLD's just makes the Fortune 500 mad because they've already got their .com and don't want to have to register the others too.
- jsully, on 10/31/2007, -1/+11This is beyond retarded - any decent registrar offers privacy settings already. You can hide pretty much as much as you want. In the event that law enforcement needs more information a whois will always reveal enough information where they can contact the registrar and take it from there.
Example: http://resellers.tucows.com/wholesale_services/dom ... - Matt2k, on 11/01/2007, -0/+10Domain registrars LOVE multiple TLDs. Secure your business presence today!
Lots my clients register .COM, .ORG, .NET, .US, .INFO just because.. Uh oh. Someone else might take them.
It's silly. - ryodoan, on 10/31/2007, -0/+9Then the private should not cost extra and it should be the default. If you really want to have your home address, phone number, and name all available by default on the internet, good for you, but I would be more comfortable if I did not have to pay extra to have a private name.
- Matt2k, on 10/31/2007, -0/+9The technical side of me is sad to think of whois going away. Like an increasingly little-known backdoor that doesn't much hurt anyone, it's a nice service for getting contact information.
The practical side of me would be happy to see those ridiculous "Privacy guard" upsells at GoDaddy go away, and the end to those those monthly fake invoice letters from the "US Domain Registry" telling me that my domain will expire (!) - Kitsune818, on 10/31/2007, -4/+12IPs also make it difficult to be anonymous, we should trash them.
- trogdor282, on 10/31/2007, -0/+8Unfortunately whoever designed the internet didn't do it with jackasses in mind. Which sucks because today the internet is 99% jackasses. Thus we have spam, TLD *****, unencrypted IP payloads, and so on. Ohh, well. Too late now, we're stuck with it.
- ryodoan, on 10/31/2007, -2/+9But it costs extra, I should not have to pay an extra fee to keep me "safe" that sounds a lot like extortion.
- patricks, on 10/30/2007, -1/+8Man, that photo ruins the entire article for me. I just can't stop gazing at his "come hither" look and white beard.
- trogdor282, on 11/01/2007, -3/+10Oh, so YOU'RE the guy that sends all the SEO spam to my admin email? DIAF, *****!
- Mononuclear, on 10/31/2007, -1/+7How about if the person is interested in selling the domain they list that along with some contact information on the site. Make it a choice. If they don't have anything then they must not want to sell it. I don't want people calling me or emailing me every other day to buy my domain. It's not for sale! That would be like you seeing a nice car on the road and then calling the person unsolicited trying to buy their car..
- Mononuclear, on 11/01/2007, -0/+6As I commented before. As far as business goes you have to have the .com name or you are screwed. If your user base is tech savvy people then you don't have to worry about your tld. However if you run just a normal online business or site and you want a wide audience most of which aren't tech savvy you must own the .com. No matter what url you put on magazine ads, television, etc most people are going to try www.domain.com to get to your site. Internet advertising is easier because they can just click a link and they are there, but if they don't bookmark the site and try to go back later you can bet that they are going to type www.domain.com into the address bar. If you don't own the .com then you are basically giving free traffic and advertising to whoever does.
- noahhoward, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5Your clients are clearly smarter than you. People do park domains around the names of other domains they find. If you are going into serious business and you only buy your domain on one level you have a nasty surprise waiting for you.
I do get your point that there are too many TLDs but I really hope you understand that domain protection is serious for a business. - ihaterobots, on 10/31/2007, -3/+8MoneyVsDebt is right on. I also run a hosting company, and whois is vital when contacting folks about transferring domains. and no, i don't mean spamming them. i have customers that want to switch their domain to my servers, and i have to handle the transfer for them because they don't know what they're doing.
anyone who thinks that WHOIS, of ALL THINGS, is a radical privacy invasion should put their tin-foil hats back on and go back to their holes. - Stalks, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4With the car analogy, it would be like seeing a car on a drive with no wheels, looking like it hadn't been driven for a long time, and you enquiring as to whether the owning wants to get rid of it.
- Haohmaru, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5Sounds like a DNS nightmare to me.
- cleverboy, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5The Internet can't encourage anonymous websites unless SOMEONE knows who you are, and doesn't have to ante-up to the registrar to find out. I think e-mails requesting a link back, or people inquiring if you domain name is for sale are perfectly fine. Sometimes whois is the ONLY recorded information on something. I've purchased domain names from people that have long since given up on creating a website. If I had to wait until it dropped, always go through a 3rd party, or otherwise meet with unreasonable resistance to contacting another website owner it'd be ridiculous. Whois is very important to the way the Internet works.
- spiffytech, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4A handful of somewhat popular tech sites vs. the whole rest of the internet... Statistically speaking, loof is right.
- jsully, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3While I agree, I'd wager that there are others that do it for free to set themselves apart - Tucows is the only one offhand that I've dealt with recently and could come up with a link for within the 120second edit window :)
- jcaino, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3this brings up a problem with who actually owns the domain - sure you paid for it, but technically it is registered to them. they wanna snatch it from you they can.
- Mononuclear, on 10/30/2007, -1/+4However if you run any sort of business 90% of your customers are going to try to go to www. business.com This is also why more tld's are useless. Society has been trained that websites are www.whatever.com and that is it. If you have a .net domain and not a .com domain, all your advertising is basically giving business and traffic to whoever owns the .com. If you don't forward the www dns record to your website then you will also lose many customers.
This will be the case for a long time until the majority of people are tech savvy enough to understand the difference between subdomains and tlds. - enriquer, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3Save the planet. Get rid of the lawyers.
- mocheeze, on 10/30/2007, -1/+4"Hell my hosting company will hide my email address on the whois info but I have pay them extra for this. That pisses me off."
-Simple solution: Find a new hosting company that doesn't nickel-and-dime you for everything. The "free market" is the perfect tool to solve your problem. - ElRayQuieres, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Oh yeah, the Fortune 500 will be really worried about buying $10 domains... Even if they bought 1000 domains, $10,000 is nothing.
- mocheeze, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2I don't think ICANN are the ones getting $10 out of every domain. I'm pretty sure there's a *****-ton of mark-up done by the registrars. Nice try though.
- whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -0/+2@stalks
Not really a good analogy, as many people have domains simply for email. I do.
@noahhoward
Then you'd take them to court and get a subpoena for the registrar's records. This would also help prevent frivilous C&D letters where the letter sender knows their case wouldn't hold up in court but their plan is just to use intimidation. - slack31337, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2Damn I'm all freaked out by NAMBLA dude now... creepy
- chokeaduck, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Someone explain to me aside from domains by proxy how one could protect their phone # from being listed through a registrar like GoDaddy? If I'm paying 9.99/yr for a domain, why would should I have to have to pay twice that just so my personal information isn't put up there on the internet?
- noahhoward, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Because many people don't realise that people will buy an old web address. For a more appropriate example though, what if a name violates youru trademark and there is no contact information?
- xero69, on 10/31/2007, -2/+4I'm sure all those domain name registrars making money by offering "private registration" are going to LOVE the idea of scrapping WHOIS.
- prisoner24601, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2It's not about the money. It's about having to worry that someone on your IT staff is paying close enough attention to which date ICANN releases which domain and making sure you jump in fast enough to register first. If ICANN releases .foo on March 23, and .bar on April 3, and .stupid on June 12 then on each day those TLDs go live in the registry, you have to make sure you've registered them to prevent cybersquatting on your parallel domains. It's a HUGE hassle to keep track of. That's why the corporate world would hate more TLDs. The big boys either got the .com first, or sued and/or bought it, so now they are set. They've spent insane amounts of money promoting .com and they would gain no advantage for additional alternates. Corporations will drive this, and they have NO desire for more TLD's. In fact, they will oppose it.
- QuadChaos, on 11/02/2007, -3/+4Isn't this why services such as whois-guard exist? The consumer has the option of purchasing a cheap way of masking their identity in the whois database. Privacy would be a concern for me if this service didn't exist... but it does, so I'm not worried.
- Devrdander, on 10/30/2007, -2/+3... no... no we aren't stuck with www... its just a DNS record, you can have whatever.domain.tld
- chris9902, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Is it good or bad we don't know who they are?
- jcaino, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1and you can rewrite to whatever or to www or just to domain.tld. if you dont want www. associated with your site, you can only blame yourself
- mocheeze, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Lots of businesses wouldn't be able to function at a proper level anymore. That kind of chaos. I thought it was obvious.
- CTK14A, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2As someone who has been the victim of (false) libel by a Republican 'news' website before, I am totally for documentation via WHOIS. Privacy is tricky; should it not work both ways?
- ismith, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1All I care about is the registration date and a valid email to contact if they're squatting...
- mocheeze, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I think 1and1.com offers free privacy guard too. People who complain about not having free privacy guard just need to suck it up and find a better provider. Stop adding in new regulation every time you want a new feature. Use your wallet and make the ***** market work for once.
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1Yes the consumer has the option of paying even more money to get their details out of public view.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I don't have to pay anything extra. Where did you register?
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+1ICANN get something like 10c or 20c, its the domain registrar that gets the $$
- SonicDH, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1This is just silly. Whois is one of the best tools a net savvy person can use. So what if people can use it for bad things? People can use guns for bad things, Should we destroy all guns? No. Thats just stupid.
- mrjit, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1Most of us web hosts check the name server or whois the IP address to determine where its hosted. If a customer doesn't control the domain, it's their responsibility, not a web hosts, to contact the current owner/friend/cousin-who-bought-it-for-them.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -3/+3Good, get rid of it. Build a better system so spammers can't just grab anyone's information.
- Collin1000, on 11/15/2007, -0/+0I get tons of junk postal mail sent to my house. Domain coupons, web seminars, other crap. And its all right out of WHOIS - because I spelt my first name wrong in my whois entry, and all the junk mail includes that typo.
- whiledo, on 03/25/2009, -2/+2No, what they should do is nuke everything but the top level country codes. This .com/.net/.anythingelse business is very outdated.
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -10/+9We should create a .ronpaul TLD and sentence to death anyone who post spam anywhere else on the internets.
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