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- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23The laws have been made. Just, nobody follows them.
- jtrost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19If YouTube does sell out or gets shut down there will be new websites that will try to do the same. YouTube started a trend, and it's trend that isn't going to stop with that one website.
- providmike2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11If you know anything about copyright law you would be able to see YouTube has a Massive copyright infringement problem. Its really that simple.
- CasualAffair, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Is YouTube not a juicy legal target for every other media company already?
- Philbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"it's been proven that these clips of TV shows actually _increase_ratings"
This may be true, but legal departments care about stuff like this for very different reasons. - Coopjust, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Yeah, but youtube has no money as it is. The content owners are hoping somebody rich and stupid buys them out so they can sue someone with money instead.
- 8177, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5that is the greatest site ever. What's the catch
- sooperdooper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Off the top of my head: Gmail? Google Earth? Google Maps?
- mlkmnz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Youtube would also be screwed if they started making a profit. Seeing as they don't at the moment there's little reason to haul them over the coals untill there's something worth taking to court over.
- BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Problem?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I don't go to YouTube for Family Guy. I go to www.dailyepisodes.com. I would rather watch episodes than excerpts.
- dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"It's been proven". Okay Dr. Statistics. Provide some evidence...
- oxymoron69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3umm......... blogger?
- martalli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Copying the TV shows for personal use is one thing, but posting them on YouTube does not sound legal to me. YouTube is not much different than Napster...I hope its not the case, but I'm sure studios would be perfectly within their rights to sue YouTube and the uploaders.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8but there all the best videos. who wants to see some teen bitchen about there boyfriend? not me that's for sure.
YouTube will die if it sells out. This is why nobody has done a video site like this before because the risks far outway the rewards. As soon as it becomes inc they may aswell move their servers to the court house. - Jamminn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Orkut.com?
- Sammy20, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The only reason I like youtube over other online video sites. Is for the vast selection of gay porn. No other online video site really has any of it. They even sensor keyword searches out when looking for porn.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Where's Teller? Oh, that's right - Teller never posts...
- ibeetle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2When? What do you mean when? Political ad's, anti-drug PSA's, content posted from legitimate sources (movie studio's, record companies, etc.). Sounds me like they already sold out.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't know how I left that impression...
I'm talking potential, and even then only in addition to TV ads.
Look at it this way: hundred-thousand-dollar TV ad, and what do we do with it? Mute the TV and go get a snack. Or record it and fast-forward through the commercials. The same movie on a youtube site takes up a small part of the screen; ads stay visible on the rest.
Nielson ratings show 100,000 viewers for show X, one time on it's broadcast date. Put the webified version of show X online, and it can get 100,000 visitors PER DAY... forever.
It's not that web advertising is underpaid, it's that TV advertising is grossly overpaid. - sixsicsix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If youtube goes away, someone else will just put a site that does the same thing. If people want it, someone will give it to them, it's that easy. Look at suprnova. i'm sure someone said the samething about it back in the day.
- videoCT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think we should let YouTube do what it wants to do. They presumably have lawyers at the ready, and supposedly are not yet making a profit. The ads they do sell are helping pay for the bandwidth, but with millions of daily viewers, YouTube is in a predicament. The partners they have such as NBC put short preview clips of their tv shows which few people watch (comparatively speaking) and at the same time NBC requires YouTube to take down NBC materials, which in reality makes for fewer YouTube viewers. So it seems YouTube alienates its audience by attempting to make money.
Maybe You tube should charge a subscription fee, say $5 a month, cheaper than Netflix, and since they always need more bandwidth, they will always almost break even but never make a profit. Their revenue to profit curve approaches profitable for infinity but never gets there. - martalli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"It's not that web advertising is underpaid, it's that TV advertising is grossly overpaid."
Well, I would have to agree with that. If you aren't getting up for a soda or potty break, then people are ff'g through the commercial these days. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what comes up must come down. not everything will last a long time their will always be that gapping hole that will destroy anything in a buisness.
once something comes down their will be another new invention right around the corner. - Penn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, i see what you did there!
- belmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1the clips will go somewhere else...nice spam Nick
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't get it. I watch a show for free on TV, my only "fee" is watching the advertisements. I watch the show online, and there's advertisements always in view. What's more, I can click on the advertisements and spend my money directly online as the impulse strikes.
Heck, I think it could be the other way, TV is infringing on computer profits. Just license the show to a website the way you license it to a TV station; they'll make more money, not less.
Um, didn't I see where FOXNEWS just bought youtube? Or did I dream that? - blankoboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You should download any Youtube videos you faintly enjoy and think you may want to view again in the future. Videos routinely disappaer off the site never to return again. This has always been the case and I fear it will only increase in the very near future.
In the case of music videos it's not such a hear breaker as you can get them anywhere for the most part but some are rare. But in the case of other videos that are not so common it can be quite a heart break to know you will never find/see them again.
Sigh.... - martalli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Not to mention, are YouTube's advertising revenues going to support the Family Guy's studio? This is a reasonable point of view, but only if the studios are doingthe netcasting...such as the videos on comedycentral.com
- HardSide, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Welcome to the new YouTube, please watch our 50 second advertisement of an idiotic Xbox game while you wait for your 25 second clip to load, thank you"
Ah the future, I can't wait, can you? - dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ha ha ha... you think the advertising revenues on a website would be even a tiny sliver of the advertising revenues on television? Much less "a lot more"? hooo haeeee
- phad3rs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1www.dailymotion.com win.
- Penn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The internet sucks without YouTube (and digg of course).
- martalli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Social Networking is the new dot bomb"
Agreed. Anyone can throw up a site with forums...CMS, web forums, etc are all open source and can be created with great ease. With a fairly low barrier to entry, there are zillions of social networking sites, discussion boards, etc. Some of these social netowrking sites will thrive in the long run, but most are going to turn little or no profit. - loganrapp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's too easy to "leak" some juicy bits of television and have it spread across the globe for pretty much free. That kind of free advertising is too good for the execs to shut down.
Someone will try to buy it, yes, but it won't die out. No one's going to shut it down. - Yashu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yes I fail to see the huge problem. We get a service that makes us actually feel like we are finally living in the new millenium... don't go around saying it's a problem, they might be able to use that as a defense of taking it down... (shhhhh... they can here you.... *looks around*)
- SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2anyone tired of the you tube hype?
"fancy schmuck says anyone who buys youtube is a moron"
"what will we do if youtube goes away?"
"youtube does this...."
"youtube does that...."
who cares already?
They dont make any money, I dont see how they can ever make money, and if they do figure it out, lawyers will be all over them like stink on *****.
Until then, enjoy the ride.
Social Networking is the new dot bomb. - foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And Google has got tons of money I think. Doesnt GVid stick up for Copyright laws? They pull music videos that are in the free section AND the paying section. They pulled some tv shows
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4No one in their right mind would buy YouTube. It's just way to expensive a month in bandwidth charges alone.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Everyone needs to remember that 95% of Statistics are Made up on the Spot.
- Quintus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Is it just me or have only three people voted in that poll?
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1--baleeted--
- martalli, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1100% of statistics on this particular thread were poulled out of arses, for instance.
/humour - cellis, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8Google Video sucks ass. Google people are left brainers, they have no idea what the social web is. And I firmly believe that any foray of theirs into social/soft products, as opposed to hard, engineering products, will flop. Google isn't Apple, google isn't Microsoft, google isn't facebook or myspace or anything else. Google is search, and those adsense ads. And they will never be anything else.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4If you wanna see Fam Guy or the Daily Show or ***** you wanna see thats on TV, just watch it on TV..... DVR it, record it on DVDs or VHS tapes. On-Demand might be there, If its an inconvinience or you forgot to DVR or whatever it, use BT. Viewing copyrighted media from only ONE source which is already highly visited is impracticle. If YouTube gets shut down by legal issues, you have been cut off from your main source of entertainment. Your Cable/Sattelite/Broadcast provider wont be shut down. BT has thousands of sites, if your favorite one shuts down, its easy to change. Sticking to ONE source is what losing nations do in a war. Its easy to cut off it's supply of whatever. Vary your sources and adapt. TV isnt so good on a monitor at low-res anyway.
- ThankTheCheese, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2it's been proven that these clips of TV shows actually _increase_ratings. We'd be likely to see more clips from shows, not less. "selling out" isn't always a bad thing. anti-capitalism is fine, so long as you have good, hard evidence and research to support your arguments. I don't see how another company buying YouTube will make it any more or less of a target than it is at the moment.
YouTube filled a void. If it stops filling that void, something else will come along. chillax. - Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1None of them are in danger, they'll just be put onto another video sharing website.
Soon as ones taken down, another is made to fill its shoes. See bit torrent for an example of how it works. - martalli, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"It's been proven...." That line of reasoning won't work in court. I also distinctly remember hearing that sort of reasoning in the days of Napster, just as CD sales started to plummet.
- Yashu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0They don't follow them because that are... well... silly. Just an excuse for lawyers to make money while large corporations fight with each other. Just lately, technology is allowing the average joe to piss off large corporations too... and there isn't as much money to be had suing the average joe! So what does an animal do during the last throes of life? Lash out violently trying to cling on to every last bit of lifeblood, trying so desperately to maintain the past. It won't be alive much longer, but it can still do some damage as it bleeds all over the nice carpet under the chair you watch YOUTUBE on the computer with!
- POKETNRJSH, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Google Video, anyone? It's pretty much the same thing, with a bit less social website mixed in.
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