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- chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -28/+411This is huge. Now Blu-ray has nearly 75% of the studios exclusively. The end of the format "war" is finally in sight.
- anks329, on 01/04/2008, -10/+207Finally, a possible end to this stupid format war.
- kiiwii, on 01/04/2008, -7/+180Unless HD-DVD has something up its sleeve, I can't see bluray "losing" the war anymore.
PS3 sales are picking up, which results in more bluray players in consumers homes, which results in higher sales of bluray disks. The momentum is heavily in Sony's favor.
It seems like now they would have to TRY to fail. (Of course, I could still see this happening...) - hater2win, on 01/04/2008, -8/+179You know, just as important is how this affects the gaming industry. Can you imagine how many people are going to say "Well, I can buy a blu-ray player for $299, or pay $100 bucks more and get a PS3 and a blu-ray player all in one. Anyone have any thoughts on how this might affect the console war now? It seems like this will give the PS3 a huge kick in the ass to propel it forward, kind of like DVD did with the PS2
- crycry, on 01/04/2008, -17/+185I could pretend I don't care, but I have a PS3 and this makes me happy. Now maybe they'll stop holding back movies.
- Shorties, on 01/04/2008, -12/+175I just got an HD-DVD player for Christmas so this news makes me very sad :(
- mattbrundage, on 01/04/2008, -17/+132Double fist pump and a silent scream since I am still at work.
- j1prophet, on 01/04/2008, -27/+141I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of HDDVD fanboi voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
- zerhynn, on 01/04/2008, -24/+112Blu-ray, HD-Dvd, or Dvd, I'm still going to watch it on my computer for free.
- DeathJux, on 01/04/2008, -3/+87Also, Apple seems to be backing Blu-Ray as well... it's looking grim for HD-DVD.
- chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -5/+82Well, Microsoft's rumored HD-DVD 360 combo due in the fall is probably dead now.
But I agree, even my 50+ year old father bought a PS3 for Blu-ray movies and now, after 20 years of convincing him video games are not "kids toys" I am FINALLY getting him hooked on playing games too. - Hermiod, on 01/04/2008, -5/+68Fingers crossed that they will at least stick to not using region coding on their discs. As a Brit with a PS3 and a HD-DVD player, the lack of region coding on HD-DVDs is their biggest advantage over Blu-Ray.
- twiny3, on 01/04/2008, -12/+74Can I please get me some Batman Begins on Blu-ray?!?!
- deadbaby, on 01/04/2008, -18/+76BR is obviously going to win the HD optical war but I still doubt it will take off the way DVD did. I just don't see the demand. BR is the new LaserDisc -- AV geeks will love it but the average person will stick with DVD for a very long time.
- CraigJ, on 01/04/2008, -3/+60now they just need to kill Profile 1.0 and 1.1 and force the manufactures to 2.0 like they should have done in the first place. Seriously that profile ***** is just stupid. How about a SINGLE standard? That's as bad ad 7 freaking version of Vista.
- jayadelson, on 01/04/2008, -7/+56See? And all that hubub over HD-DVD keys...
- ryogahibiki, on 01/04/2008, -10/+57The ONE good thing about this war was all of the great sales on the discs themselves including the recent B1G1 free deals. Competition is a good thing and consumers looking for good deals should of wanted this war to go on.
Now that Blu-ray has all but won, I hope we don't see only $30 discs on the shelves. - eleven, on 01/04/2008, -6/+47That was the decision I made. I have a Wii and PS3 now and I could not be happier with all the media features built into the PS3. I'm able to stream downloaded videos right off my NAS to the PS3.
- dyranios2, on 01/04/2008, -4/+45Wow as someone who sided with HD DVD I am a little bummed, I would snap up blu-ray though it will still take a while for the "win" to take place, and what of paramount/dreamworks deal which doesn't end for another year? I just hope my HD DVD player doesn't break it might be hard to find another one.
- chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -9/+49Sony is not the only company that created Blu-ray. Blu-ray does not equal Sony. If you don't like Sony, purchase non-Sony Blu-ray players and non-Sony movies.
- schoate09, on 01/04/2008, -2/+411. Blu-ray uses Microsoft's codec, (AVC-1), so I'd bet Sony would license the tech to Microsoft.
2. Sony's Cell was designed with Sony, IBM, and Toshiba. Guess what? Toshiba makes HD-DVD, but they collaborated on the Cell anyway. Quit being a tool, companies aren't as juvinile as you and your middle school friends are, Microsoft will be able to license BD if it's the winning format. - BinaryDelt, on 01/04/2008, -2/+39Even though I'm a Blu-Ray and PS3 supporter (Fanboy if you will), I feel bad for you. Get it on ebay before the news spreads to the normies.
- ShogunWarPig, on 01/04/2008, -22/+56I don't see your logic. Looking purely at specs, Blu-Ray has an obvious advantage over HDDVD.
- forcedfx, on 01/04/2008, -7/+41I may finally buy a Blu-Ray player.
- hater2win, on 01/04/2008, -4/+37From Engadget Comments:
Want to Buy: Toshiba A3 HD-DVD player for $2.00
(Price adjusted to exclude the 10 free HD-DVDs). Seller pays shipping. - h4mx0r, on 01/04/2008, -3/+35The fact still stands that Blu-Ray has more signed on.
- catalysis, on 01/04/2008, -3/+34Why would you not count people with PS3s? I use a PS3 to play blu-rays
- kosan, on 01/04/2008, -2/+32Blu-Ray doesn't have to compete with DVD any more? Studios and retailers don't have to compete with each other?
- devophl, on 01/04/2008, -6/+35With WB going to Blu-ray it looks like the end is in sight for HD-DVD. Even today, the number of movies titles available in Blu-ray outnumber those in HD-DVD by about 2-1. But the cost of Blu-ray players means people will opt to buy a PS3 over a standard Blu-ray player. This has got to be a coup for Sony!!
I wonder if this will change the minds of Paramount and Dreamworks who went exclusively to HD-DVD. In a year, HD-DVD will be all but done.
Of course for those of us who bought the $200 HD-DVD add-on to Xbox will see this become a paper weight in a year. Oh well... I still have a few movies I can watch on it. - BrotherLuigi, on 01/04/2008, -1/+30Blu-ray, also known as Blu-ray Disc (BD), is the name of a next-generation optical disc format jointly developed by the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), a group of the world's leading consumer electronics, personal computer and media manufacturers (including Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson).
Not only have they "blessed" it, they helped develop it. - EntropyFan, on 01/04/2008, -22/+51>>we're hearing that quite a sum was dished out to make this happen.
Nice. When MS paid to have people back HD-DVD, it was considered a sin around here.
The utter hypocrisy of Digg is really showing of late. - FreeBadAdvice, on 01/04/2008, -21/+50FTA: "Consumers have clearly chosen Blu-ray..."
More like "Consumers bought a shiny box to play games and it happened to have a Blu-Ray drive." Consumers didn't choose a damn thing, because most people were waiting for the format war to stop before investing hundreds or thousands of dollars in a collection. - kiiwii, on 01/04/2008, -3/+31For Microsoft's sake, I certainly hope that rumored Xbox360 Ultimate was false.
- chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -3/+30Your reasons either affect very few people, or will disappear as time progresses
-Same Quality: The only comparable movies are ones released on both formats. HD-DVD has a lower bit-rate and less capacity than Blu-ray, so dual format movies were encoded for HD-DVD rates and moved to Blu-ray. Now, Blu-ray exclusive movies can be encoded with much better rates and have more extras (such as lossless audio) on the Blu-ray disc
-Cheaper: Prices will fall over time. Blu-ray players will be cheaper in a year than HD-DVD players are now, and they are already cheaper than DVD players were 18 months into its lifespan. Prices will drop. And in technology, cheaper is not always better.
-Region Free: Who does this affect? The few people who pay an extra $15 to import a movie from Europe? Japan and the US are in the same region, and only NEW movies are region coded because they may still be in theaters in Europe. All older movies are released Region Free. The downside to HD-DVD being region free is new movies on HD-DVD were delayed until they had finished their runs internationally. Very few people are affected by region codes, while everyone is affected by delays to satisfy international theater runs.
85% of current Blu-ray owners (PS3) have Ethernet connectivity. All new Blu-ray players will have them as well. The only people affected are the 400k early adopters without them, and even then they can buy a new better player as prices fall, or buy a firmware update disc to get anything they miss online.
- superkendall, on 01/04/2008, -1/+28And then Betamax died because it lost studio support (like HD-DVD) and didn't have as much storage space (like HD-DVD) and had only one hardware maker to back out of it when the chips were down (like HD-DVD has only Toshiba). Yes, there is a betamax of this format war and it just lost, just like before.
- devophl, on 01/04/2008, -2/+28Isn't the DRM specs for Blu-ray stronger than for HD-DVD? This might be a reason the studios prefer it over HD-DVD.
- chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -1/+27Unfortunately, region coding will probably still be used on new movies which have not been released in the UK. Currently, only new movies on Blu-ray use region coding, while older movies do not. While HD-DVD did not use region coding, the downside was many new releases were delayed on HD-DVD until the movie had finished its run in Europe.
- VictoryGin, on 01/04/2008, -0/+26"DVD movies started at $25 for the first year"
hell, a new DVD in a Best Buy or other big store will cost you $20 today. You have to know how to shop around. Fry's has already had huge amounts of Blu-ray movies on sale for $13 online. - chocobomog, on 01/04/2008, -3/+27It was nice having all the great deals, but having the confusion between formats prevented the average consumer from purchasing High Def movies. Few people (other than early adopters) want to purchase a $300+ player for a format which may not be around much longer.
Now that Blu-ray is seen as the clear winner, more studios will publish movies for it and invest in the technology. As that occurs, competition among STUDIOS will cause prices to go down. DVD movies started at $25 for the first year or so, but as time went on and the technology became more prevalent, it is not uncommon to find $5 DVDs now. - BekarAdmi, on 01/04/2008, -11/+35Get ready for drastic price cuts on HD-DVD players.... yay, but oh well...they'll become collector's item soon just like HD-VHS.
And YES!! There was HD-VHS before Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. - ddfall, on 01/04/2008, -4/+28I just listened to the last episode of Buzz Out Loud from Cnet and they mentioned if this happened that it really could spell the end of HD-DVD. Damn they're good... lol
- shovelihave, on 01/04/2008, -1/+25And we would've gotten away with it too. If it wasn't for those damn Warner Brothers...
- s0ny, on 01/04/2008, -4/+28Microsoft creates standards? I thought they just ignored standards and did whatever the hell they wanted to confuse everyone else?
- phpchris, on 01/04/2008, -1/+25and shouldn't it be [/FONT]?
- gak001, on 01/04/2008, -1/+24It's been less than thirty days, maybe you can trade it in?
- inajeep, on 01/04/2008, -12/+33I laughed at the number of times 'consumer demand' was forced into the statement. I thought I detected more of indifference from most consumers. Who ever 'wins' this format war will have a short time to enjoy the spoils. Renting on-demand movies digitally sounds more attractive than ever.
- hater2win, on 01/04/2008, -21/+42OMG! That is all.
- mnick, on 01/04/2008, -2/+23Blu-ray has widely available burners already, and is higher capacity. The higher capacity is what is most importtant to me. Also the PS3(and the 360) is sold at loss, while the stand alone players are not.
- ferrariman60, on 01/04/2008, -16/+37I don't know, it seems to me that if they truly had the consumer's best interest at heart they would release in both HDDVD and Bluray. I think Blu is back in the game though, they took a pretty major blow when Universal went HD exclusive. One reason I still am hoping HDDVD can pull this out is standards. Sony is stuck on stupid standards, they are constantly on the move for Blu. I don't think progress is bad, but for this type of thing, it seems like the best move is to settle on the best format available and settle on it. HDDVD has done this, which is a huge advantage in my book. Now Blu hardware makers need to get their asses in gear and get inexpensive players to market as HDDVD has. Of course, I just also want this stupid dick wagging contest to be over. It doesn't help anyone, no matter what side you're on, to have 2 competing formats like this.
- selfdisplaced, on 01/04/2008, -1/+21yes, you and the other person who bought that.
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