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- mikewhite314, on 10/12/2007, -0/+26Did anyone else have to read the title twice because they reflexively saw "Visa" as "Vista"?
- JamesWilson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Hmm.. they are suggesting just setting up your phone to have an SMS quicktext with all of your credit card information in it and send that to the retailer when it is time to pay.
Makes sense. Seems secure enough. Lets do it. - crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14He was being sarcastic for ***** sakes.
Can't believe I actually have to type this. - mississippiman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7sure did
- mayhemt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Thanks Visa ..for adding one more reason to stay away from cellphones... as if Verizon & SBC is not doing enough!!
- trevor98, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not to mention losing your cell might be very bad.
- crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The block button also works great =D
- fletchowns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So now dealers are going to start taking visa?
- zombiedepot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What a horrible idea.
- klawz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They better have some sort of two-way handshaking, or PIN, etc. involved....It is way to easy to spoof SMS and CID/CPN now-a-days for this to be one way only (e.g SEND A SMS MSG TO: COKEMACHINE#234321342 for your $1.50 soda purchase) - if the coke machine doesn't ask for some sort of PIN, or two factor authentication (or more) then we're all DOOMED!! Run for the hills.
- derekJAB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes. I thought it was Bill Gates trying to get in before Steve Jobs launches his iPhone (yes I know!)
- lexi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Isn't Paypal mobile doing this already?
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2...Yet another way to entrap the unwary customer.
- bart5986, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I thought they were talking about a new program for vista before I read your comment.
- profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Okay, so I just gotta cancel my Visa. Just call this number... aw, *****."
- papereira, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I thought Paypal does this already? Or is it just setup for phone to phone transactions?
edit: Looks like just from your phone to another persons phone number/account. - macewan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Are they behind on a slew of other 'features' they were to be part of Vista? But they squeeze out this secure payment over phone option and expect a good reception?
- doughboy334, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1dumbass, the article says VISA not VISTA.
- stubles81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Lame, I live in Japan and went to the local vending machine today and paid for a coke with my cell phone. Its nice but a little overrated and not that useful. Sony also has it built into their laptops here for purchases online.
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@morons
Our devices in the US are based on older technology which requires a much larger upgrade. People want to have a lower cell bills so the upgrades are less and less likely. - longboarder543, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so everyone can pay with their new iPhone.
- pyrates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I sure did lol. Didn't even realize it said Visa till after I had clicked on the story title and read the title in the article.
- Vlatro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Please... No more cell phone features. I just want a phone that makes and receives calls. That's it. Imagine how difficult life could become if we relied on every proposed new "feature" with our cell phones.
I see my self one day sitting down for dinner at a restaurant. "Woo Woo Woo Nyuck Nyuck" my cellphone breaks the peace with it's random "Three stooges quote of the day" ring tone. It was amusing the first time I used it, but now I can't figure out how to change it back to the standard ring. I answer the phone. It's my girlfriend and she sounds pissed.
"Who are you at the restaurant with tonight" she demands. I assure her I'm eating alone. I turn on the phone's camera and spin it around 360° to show her there are no pretty young girls sitting with me. After a few minutes of rambling and screaming she calms down and apologizes. Not a sincere apology, she's just giving me my cue to say I'm sorry to her. I still don't know what we're arguing about, but I know the drill..."I'm sorry". My phone understands those keywords and pops up an ad for a nearby florist. That's helpful I guess. More helpful than the Prozac ad that popped up while she was screaming at me earlier. That little giggle I let out when I saw the ad nearly cost me a month's worth of sex. She's still talking... OK better start listening so I can wrap this conversation up, my foods getting cold. Apparently she's still angry about the other day. She borrowed my phone and found some "graphic" pictures on it of another girl. "I didn't put those there" I told her. "It's just phone spam". Never click a link to socialphonedate.com, they are notorious for loading spyware on your phone. Yes, she's still talking.... I go through the requisite sequence of "OKs","Yes'", and "I promises", and we make up. Now she's talking dirty to me. God damn spoken keywords... I now have 10 pop-ups for Viagra, male growth enhancements, and Internet porn. Can't wait till she finds those ads on my phone. We agree to meet up later that night. We say our goodbyes and hang up. ***** my food is cold. Alright, I'll skip to desert. I ask the waiter for the desert menu. He waves his little Blue Tooth pen near my phone and the menu pops up on my screen. Damn this screen is too small to read.. but as long as it gets the restaurant out of having to pay for printed menus, I guess they don't care. I fumble with the buttons a bit trying to scroll down to cheese cake. Damn it. I hit the wrong button and ordered the pecan pie instead. I'm allergic to Pecans. There's no undo button. Damn. I ask the waiter if he could go back to the kitchen to change my order. He doesn't know how to do that manually. So I just eat the whipped cream off the top of my pie and ask for my bill. The waiter brings me the total and I hand him my phone to wave for payment. "I'm sorry sir, we can't take this" he tells me. "The battery is too low". DAMN IT. I didn't bring cash. After a half hour of negotiating with him and his manager, they agree to let me take the phone out to my car for a recharge. They write down my license plate number in case I try to ditch them with the bill. GOD DAMN IT ! the phone unlocks my car doors, I don't have a door key with me. I walk back into the restaurant and try once again to explain my situation to the manager. Fortunately one of the cooks overheard my argument with waiter and informs me he has a charger in back that'll work for my phone. They plug it in and the screen lights up. Thank god. By now all the employees have hovered around my phone. The first thing to show up on the screen... "XXX Hot Teen Lolita SEX Donkey Show", with an contextually appropriate video clip. "It's Spyware, I can't get rid of it, I don't know how it got there" I frantically try to explain. After several disgusted looks from the staff, the manager whispers in the ear of the very large doorman, who promptly escorts me out of the building. I'm asked never to return. I guess my reservations for next week are cancelled. I was going to propose to my girlfriend there. Given the nature of our last fight, I don't want to try explaining why I was kicked out our favorite restaurant. By now the battery is dead again, 10 seconds isn't enough to recharge it I guess. *****. I'm still locked out of my car. What to do now. I can't call my girlfriend, I can't go back into the restaurant, and I live 30 miles from here. I can't even pay for a cab. With no other options left, I throw myself into traffic and end it.
Wouldn't it be a lot easier if we just kept phones simple? - tont0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3its so annoying when people point a much smaller country has better mobile technology than the US.
Japan: 377,835 sq. KM
US : 9,629,091 sq. KM
Which is harder to upgrade? - Wavemancali, on 12/23/2008, -0/+1I read it. I thought it was funny, charming, quirky even.
But I can't digg you because the solid block of text wall made me die a little inside. - saxonthebeach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@ tont0r: What we're talking about here has nothing to do with the wireless infrastructure....if you read the link, and the post above you, you would have seen that its all in the handset itself with a simple RFID, or as NTT calls it, an "IC card."
Of course its much more difficult to upgrade a larger infrastructure...but we're talking about devices here, not networks. - whizzbang, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I think I saw this there about 4 years ago. Simply an RFID in your phone with some fancy software that holds your balance and topups you up over the mobile network. The impressive thing is that it has not been hacked in all that time!
- kilintime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This works great until you have a work cellphone that you probably would not want to use for all purchases. The other thing would be if you have multiple cell phones is remembering which to use as the credit card today? LOL, could be interesting.....
- stevebor1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Paypal is but is is only through txt messages like "send 5 to 7147878787" my app KushCash, you just select your contact from your phone and you enter amount and send.
- Alegis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I was about to reply something clever about Vista until I read this comment.
Oh shoot. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Cool. Yet another thing to worry about when losing a cell phone.
- stupidfathead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Quoted: "... perform direct person-to-person exchanges and enable vendors to offer digital coupons on cellphones."
Nothing like actually opening the floodgates for hackers and spammers. That's all I need is some fast food joint popping up ads for half-price burgers every time I get near them or some hacker stealing my wampum and calling those 900 numbers at my expense because my phone supports person to person credit transfers.
On the other hand, in Tokyo you can buy used panties from a vending machine using your cell phone ... gross. - saxonthebeach, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@monergism
read the posts above you...what part of "This is a DEVICE-based technology, not a wireless infrastructure-based technology" do you not understand? The only thing that needs upgrading is individual merchants' point of sale systems, and thats up to them.... - saxonthebeach, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Too bad this has been around for a long time already in Japan....the telecoms have the American consumer fooled into thinking that we are on the cutting edge of innovation over here...
link:
http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/service/imode/osaifu/ - anthonystark, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Kushcash seems easy enough. I like the free debit card thigy.
- anthonystark, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Thingy.
- lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2"***** sakes"?
You don't swear very much do you? :p - stevebor1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1our KushCash skips the entire RFID and send via P2P over the network. in japan you can't send money to friends like our app does.
- roberto_deneero, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Vista just got OWNED by Apple this morning!!!!! LOL
Nice work Bill. Back to the drawing board!!!
Nobody cares about your stupid payment system. Buh-bye.
Also, VERY significant is the change from Apple Computer, Inc. to Apple, Inc. A sign of the future! - stevebor1, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4My company lets you use any credit card to send money with your phone. KushCash is a free download and works on any phone wia app or wap.
KushCash rocks!
You can add any credit card and any bank , so we don't try you down with anyone.
http://www.kushcash.com - khunnavy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1i tried stevebor1's service and it works great! thanks
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -23/+5Secure?
Transmission of text (clear text) over cell phones (wireless) to a provider who has a history of losing client data?
No thanks.
btw, came up w/ this idea a while ago. The only way for it to work properly is using an escrow.
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