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- evilunleashed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+78That's the same thing I was thinking.
"All versions of Windows XP except Home and Media Center"
Leaving Professional.
Why not just say "Works in XP Professional"? - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -8/+60Don't diss Media Center.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -10/+39"Why not just say "Works in XP Professional"?"
Because it also works in XP Tablet, and XP x64, and if you consider Pro 'N', a separate edition, it'll work there too. - KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199-48A3-AFA2-2DC0B40A73B6&displaylang=en
- uberchaoslord, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32VMware still makes better products, no matter the scope. VMware workstation is head and shoulders above VirtualPC.
- mezoko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24@rockyrowks
and you would want to do this... why?
VMware server is free and runs natively on linux - sinfree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23For the dos games you could just use DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net). It works like a charm.
- cyn0sure, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Yeah, um, Virtual Server is free too, and does more.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6dba2278-b022-4f56-af96-7b95975db13b&DisplayLang=en - theratster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19"and is supported on all versions of Windows XP (except Home and Media Center Edition)"
lol. so that means just WinXP Professional right? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24What's the point in limiting it so it doesn't work on Home/Media Center?
All people are gonna do is use a cracked version of VMWare in its place if they so happen to use either version. Plus Media Center is just XP with a few additions, so that's rather nonsensical. - UltimaNut, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I have Virtual PC running on Media Center as well - Its Running Ubuntu - which is running VMWare Player running a Windows XP appliance which is running VMWare running DSL.....
- STKD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16It *will* run on all versions, you just don't get *support* when running under Home or MCE. That's all. Nothing to stop you using it.
- STKD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17"And Windows Vista? Imagine Vista on Vista you will need like 8gb of ram!"
Right... I've been running a virtual copy of Ultimate Edition on VPC2007 RC1, under Vista Ultimate Edition, with 1GB of RAM. There's no problem with it whatsoever. Give it 512MB and it'll run just fine. - raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@cyn0sure
Thank you! I didn't knew about Virtual Server. I'm downloading it now. - SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16for work stuff yes, but virtual PC 2004 at least does video and sound better for old school dos game mayhem. pc 2004 is also free. haven't tried 2007 yet.
- tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I love free.
- Grimfaire, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17It's Virtual PC... what you expecting is available in Virtual Server
- pointNumberOne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"All people are gonna do is use a cracked version of VMWare"
Why? VMWare player and all the tools you need ( http://petruska.stardock.net/Software/VMware.html ) are free... - partialinfinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8VMWare Server 1.0.1 is free. VMWare ESX is definitely NOT free.
- dan2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Stolen from some site.
Step 1: Boot Live CD, press F6 (Other Options)
Step 2: Go near the end of the line and remove the word splash, then press Enter.
Step 3: After Ubuntu 6.10 boots, Press Crtl-Alt-F1 to get to a command line interface.
Step 4: Type in the following command to reset defaultdepth from 24 to 16:
sudo sed -e 's/DefaultDepth.*24/DefaultDepth 16/g' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Step 5: Press Ctrl-Alt-F7 to return to the Ubunto Desktop.
Step 6: Press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to reload the Ubunto Desktop.
Step 7: Graphics should be adjusted, and now you can perform an installation under VPC. - quamsta, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Funny, I just installed it on Media Center and it works fine. Running Xubuntu as we speak
- sheepster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx?wt_svl=20323a&mg_id=20323b
- PRocker267, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@ thecompkid "That's like saying OS X is supported on all computers (except those not made by Apple)"
That didn't stop me from installing it on MY PC ;)
OSx86 :) - 1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@uber
VMWare Workstation costs money while Virtual PC 2007 is freely available. Virtualization stil has about 40-50% overhead on most PC's, no matter what you are using (VMware, Virtual Server). However, with chips now being built with virtualization supported instructions built in, the overhead decreases drastically, down to about 5%. - FatShady, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
None at all. - raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Thanks, sheepster.
note to self: rtfa. - MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Pro, x64, Tablet, the 'N' versions?
- Poco, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Dugg just so that I can run OS/2 again.
- damentz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Uh, no one mentioned Virtual Box. Its free for non enterprise use.
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox - ferggo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I believe that VMWare actually has a patent on some of their snapshot technology, so you won't see anyone else doing that.
At least that's what I recall Steve Gibson saying on Security Now!
But I could be totally wrong. - Justus75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good news. I've been waiting for Virtual PC 2007 for a while. I'm going to get a Windows XP virtual machine up and running under Vista. This way I'll be able to run the few programs that still don't work for Vista until they get fixed.
- trancelgic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4rmxz: I think you're thinking of CITRIX... CITRIX allows an entire company to use "one copy" of Office, Photoshop, etc.
- levi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The key word is supported. Home will work fine to they just don't support it.
- chazuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think people are missing the word "Support".
Microsoft can offer you "support" if you're using it on XP Pro. If you're on Home Edition and it goes wrong Microsoft will not give you "support" if you're having issues.
Thats. how it worked with VPC 2004. - 1021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"almost free" == "I BT'd it sucka!" right dagr?
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4An Intel Mac running Boot Camp is a real PC. It has the same hardware as a real PC, runs the same software. There is no difference at all between a Mac running Boot Camp and a real PC.
So, Virtual PC 2007 should work just fine. - FatShady, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6for ***** sake - this has been talked about in the comments about a thousand times. Get over yourself.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Doesn't mean it's "Supported".
- sirwally, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4VMware workstation still costs money (for the life of me I don't know why) while VMware server is free. I used to use workstation, but have since switched to server. I don't see why workstation is still around...
If you dig around you can (or at least used to) find references to workstation and ESX server in some the VMware server files (I forget which ones). To me, server always looked like "Workstation meets ESX server" anyway...
Virtual Server does have one distinct advantage over VMware -- difference disks. You can create a single VM as a base for other VMs. Thus, when you patch the first VM, all VMs that are based on that inherit the changes, and the subsequent VMs only need to store the differences, hence the name. Nifty feature. I am not aware of any such feature in VMware.
Although I haven't tried it, I just spoke to someone who has extensive experience with VMware, and has just tried VPC 2007, and apparently the performance difference is significant in favor of the latter. YMMV. - raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Anyone has a quick link to Virtual PC 2007 Changelog/What's new doc?
- pcgeek101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3VMware Server is a free product, too ... I don't understand the need for VMware player or workstation ...??
- jongalloway, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I think VirtualPC is a better than VMWare unless you're spending a significant amount of your time in the VM. VMWare installs all a lot of network drivers and other system services as Windows Services. That means they run all the time, from start-up to shutdown, even if you haven't started up the VMWare player for weeks. VirtualPC doesn't run any additional software when it's not active.
VPC 2007 includes some performance enhancements, like support for hardware virtualization. I'd say try VPC and switch to VMWare if you're using it all the time. - socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3While we're on the topic of virtualization, maybe a reminder of Virtual Box, the free and open source virtualization solution dugg a few times a while back:
http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/VirtualBox_goes_open_source - d722002, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As far as I know, Just because it says it is 'Not Supported' doesnt mean it wont run... it just means you cant go crying to Microsoft when something goes wrong, or you accidentially fry your physical hard disk because you linked it to a virtual machine that you formatted for DOS.
Trust me -- ***** happens. - FatShady, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Like?
- Neoisamu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8I have Ubuntu working just in VPC 2004... it may not be supported but it works none the less... but hey, it's free right?
- dan2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That worked for me, trying it right now. btw I still got that wierd screen but when you go to the command line you can actually see it now.
- grumpyrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Err, no. All that 'hack' does is change your System Properties screen to 'say' Professional.
You still can not join a domain, use file permissions, connect to it using remote desktop, use EFS, group policy, roaming profiles, you know, the sorts of things one hopes to achieve by converting it to XP Pro. - nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Finally got it to work - had to change the VGA settings from the initial menu to a 16-bit depth manually then launch into safe graphics mode, then go through the steps listed. Thanks
- Latka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3schoate09, you have no idea what you are talking about, yet you talk like you have.
"VMware emulates low level hardware, such as sound and video for the drivers, rather than directly using the hardware you're using."
VPC does not "use" the hardware you are using, it emulates hardware pretty much the same way Vmware does.
BTW, is there a high level hardware?
"Originally created by Connectix for PowerPC and on the mac. After MS bought it, a PC port was released."
Are you friggin' kidding me? I used VPC from Connectix FOR PC ages before MS bought it. There was never a "port" made by Microsoft.
Please, learn to check your sources before commenting because you end up looking like a moron as you did. -
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