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- drewolanoff, on 06/10/2008, -2/+289Wow, higher ed grows a pair. I like it.
- sophia269, on 11/08/2007, -2/+182Finally a school sticking up for their students instead of throwing them under the bus.
- inactive, on 11/08/2007, -6/+173Obligatory "***** THE RIAA!"
- hmunkey, on 11/08/2007, -2/+104You lied. Harvard already went up against the RIAA. I remember that 100s of us went and gave the Dean pats on the back. He probably felt like a god.
- MassiveTaTas, on 11/06/2007, -4/+100I'm making a donation to this school.
- skelliewag, on 11/06/2007, -2/+86Nice work, RIAA. It's like they thought: "Mmm... we're pretty much hated by everyone who breathes. How can we fix this? I know... let's try and force a university to invade the privacy of their students. That'll work."
Kudos to Oregon for sticking up for their kids. - neutrascrub, on 11/06/2007, -2/+85I'm at University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. and they denied the RIAA their records too, because they were deleted. whoops
- PistolSO, on 11/08/2007, -5/+80Go Ducks!!!
- deathmatch, on 11/06/2007, -5/+46My prof hates the RIAA
nonetheless...***** THE RIAA - dark1587, on 11/06/2007, -1/+39Fortunately they're not the first ones to do it.
I believe Harvard is also up in arms against the RIAA - http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8896/Harvard+Law%3A+% ...
I hope that more Universities start acting like Oregon and Harvard when the going gets tough (and the RIAA gets knocking on the door) - DrBarnett, on 11/06/2007, -1/+32A precedent? Probably not, but I better bookmark it for that day when it comes up at a committee meeting.
- mrmacky, on 11/04/2007, -2/+25Wrong, I think that pet-rocks hate the RIAA to.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 11/05/2007, -6/+28In soviet america RIAA ***** you!
- kosmoX, on 11/06/2007, -0/+20They do that in America too, assuming you're a middle-aged, single mother of four who doesn't use a computer.
- demea, on 11/06/2007, -0/+20The University of Wisconsin (my alma mater) refused to forward letters from the RIAA to students a while back:
http://digg.com/tech_news/University_of_Wisconsin_ ... - sapo916, on 11/04/2007, -1/+19Save it for later.
- vinecrawler, on 11/05/2007, -5/+23I doubt that you are.
- 4rch, on 11/04/2007, -1/+18I believe UW-Madison did the same thing too, or at least, attempted to.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 11/04/2007, -1/+16I'll assume that as soon as you saw soviet you skipped the america part. I am correct?
- kosmoX, on 11/04/2007, -0/+12*****....yes, yes you are.
- screensnot, on 11/04/2007, -0/+12"We don't have the time or money to chase down suspects for the RIAA!"
"But sir, we have been getting a lot of donations recently."
"Oh? Well, maybe we can spend a few dollars in that area then." - vastrightwing, on 11/04/2007, -1/+12While the RIAA is at it, they should sue students for playing music loud enough for other students to hear. You know like the group in England did to the mechanics playing their radios too loud. Bad Sony! No sales for you!
- theWaterboy, on 11/04/2007, -3/+14hmm... if you go to harvard, raise your hand......
- rstarr, on 11/04/2007, -0/+11Didn't UMaine do something similar also?
- Erythroxylum, on 11/04/2007, -3/+13This is a great idea (i.e. 'the new model'). Without record companies the whiny little, talentless haircut band you love so much (because they really understand your irrelevant problems and they have cool haircuts) won't get a ton of cash doled out to them so they can make a pretty video and 'artistic' marketing, which'll take your attention away from how unbearably ***** and and talentless they are. Therefore, by cutting out the evil, child-bone-marrow-sucking record company (who invests a load of money, time and effort in general in the aforementioned whiny haircut band), people will only have digital downloads to deal with, raw 'music' if you will, and they'll realise all the more quickly how unrelentingly ***** it is.
Ultimately, this'll (hopefully) improve the sorry state of affairs that is the music industry today, which for the record, is caused by the 'artists' (see: whiny, talentless, haircut bands).
Then, we can go back to the old, non-quixotic, logical model and the handwringers can find something else to complain about.
In the meantime, RIAA can bring a massive lawsuit down of the head of this University and others like it, who're breaking the law, and if they get sued into bankruptcy, then so be it. Think of it as an economic form of Natural Selection.
'Oh, woe is me, I'm bankrupt - how did that happen?'
'Well, you broke the law.'
'Well, I'll be. That was kind of stupid of me. Oh well.'
And so on. - inactive, on 11/06/2007, -5/+14It is the new Model. file Sharing is anew distribution network that gets rid of the middle men that is the RIAA members (Major record labels). It is a way artist can use to distribute their products but instead of trying to find a way to benefit and try to adapt this new method of distribution the RIAA is trying to destroy it.
- yogione, on 11/04/2007, -0/+9Yay for U or OR, and U os WI, and Harvard!!! May all other universities follow their lead. May all the telecoms get with the times and follow the lead of Quest and not turn over records for the purpose spying on citizens!
Death to the RIAA (the organization- NOT the people)!
As for the afore-mentioned "hair bands" - so what? Who needs them? Put a band together, get the financing either from donors, your inheritance, rich uncles, or sheer hard work at day jobs (like 99% of us have to do). Build a fan base with effective promo. Get your group out there gigging and perfect your sound. Get your stuff recorded - start an LLC, whip up your own label, whatever it takes. Get you songs on the local indie radio - you know, radio that people with more than half a brain actually listen to. Get in the rotation on internet radio sites. Sell CDs and swag off the stage at shows. Get a negotiator (I realize this isn't everyone's forte) and get guarantees from the venues. If people like your music they'll show up.
Quit playing for free except if it's a worthwhile benefit for a good cause. People who want art should buy it.OK, maybe they steal mp3s on the internet - great - your music is getting out there, don't complain. But YOU should be SELLING it for WHAT ITS WORTH.
It ain't easy, to be sure. But it can be done without racking up huge debts to bloodsucking idiots who feed off you because they have no talent of their own.
You don't need the RIAA. And they know damn well they don't need you. Their guys are out there looking for the next gullible teenage victims. - bdgraaron, on 11/03/2007, -1/+8Not the first. Wisconsin did it too. But good for Oregon.
- lordwow, on 11/04/2007, -0/+7Achievement Unlocked:
Defiant - 5G
Tell the RIAA to go screw themselves. - giveer, on 11/04/2007, -3/+10I think, although I hope there's more to it than just this, that it's a simple matter of the university protecting their own revenue. -Give up the student's names, and the RIAA will violently cram lawsuits and court orders up their asses - if the students don't successfully counter the suit, the university would lose a student. And most of us are all too aware how much money that means the university would lose (since my ass still hurts from my student loans...)
- dsmx, on 11/04/2007, -2/+8To steal is legally defined basically as the intent to permanently deprive someone of a product or item. Since file sharing doesn't deprive anyone of a product or item permanently it is not stealing hence why you can only be sued and not sent to jail.
- nazadus, on 11/03/2007, -0/+6Ah, but here's the thing: protecting students inherently means protecting profits.
- HonestAbe, on 11/05/2007, -2/+8Music is not a physical object. Making a copy deprives no one of the original.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -2/+7I'm 48, and I think that the question is should it be legal to take money from someone who knowingly stole it in the first place. Stealing from the recording industry doesn't make it legal, but it sure makes it moral.
- objectcode, on 11/04/2007, -1/+6"since my ass still hurts from my student loans..."
sure its not from all those nights in with the boys? - gta3mobster, on 11/05/2007, -3/+7I'm not even close to getting tired of digging it.
- fr34k5h0w, on 11/04/2007, -0/+4I think UNL did something similar also, though they just flat out didn't keep the records and sent the RIAA a bill for wasting their time. http://digg.com/music/U_of_Nebraska_to_RIAA_here_s ...
- SOS84, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4Where do I go for grad school, Colorado or Oregon? Oregon it is.
- inactive, on 11/04/2007, -0/+4Good luck against the Beavs later. The majority of us will root for you guys from now on, not only because you're a fellow Pac-10 team, but also as your wins help our SOS.
One caveat: That timeout with 9 seconds remaining, though, was retarded. Carroll's a turd. - logandr, on 11/03/2007, -0/+4University of Maine did this in March 07
http://media.www.mainecampus.com/media/storage/pap ... - UberNick, on 11/06/2007, -1/+5Trojan here. I hate you for last week. But kudos for standing up for the kids. Universities should all be united on this.
- ThndrShk2k, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3yes
- djbon2112, on 11/05/2007, -1/+4"To steal is legally defined basically as the intent to permanently deprive someone of a product or item. Since file sharing doesn't deprive anyone of a product or item permanently it is not stealing hence why you can only be sued and not sent to jail."
QFT, on the root so that it gets seen a little more. - Procure, on 11/07/2007, -0/+3True that- I go to U of W right now, and there are constant school newspaper articles about the RIAA. There is a general negative sentiment towards the RIAA here, its awesome. It is mentioned too that they withheld student's names last year.
- inactive, on 11/05/2007, -4/+7Sharing is a new method of distribution? Only if the aim of the method is to avoid payment. Ignoring the RIAA for the moment, did the artist themselves give you permission to distribute their works without compensation?
- Myztry, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3The University should not even be legal allowed to give out private information to satisfy some 3rd parties agenda.
Not without a court order, or some similar legally compelling and accountable means.
Corporations could just as easily use the same discovery method by requiring names of parties shown to be using competing browsers, or Operating Systems.
Or some sex predator could get the real name of 'MissEasyPrey' he encountered in a chat room, and logged the IP address of.
Or some other Corporation could use that information to extort arbitrary penalties without due process...
Self proclaimed Judge and Jury... Such as the RIAA prefers over doing it legally.
Agreements by duress are unconscionable and illegal in truly civilized nations, but not the USA. - ChristBehemoth, on 11/05/2007, -2/+5so true .. i came here just to digg this.
- nestcrw, on 11/03/2007, -0/+3That whole thing sounded like the bar scene in good will hunting to me..
- lazyrussian, on 11/06/2007, -1/+4George Washington University is doing the same :)
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