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- UK31337, on 05/13/2009, -0/+24Want to stop piracy? Drop UK prices. Cinemas and legitimate music/DVD/game purchases are outrageously expensive here, it's a total joke. Pure greed and especially in a recession.
I'm in the UK and I know of some truly prolific downloaders who haven't ever been caught. - pookydirt, on 05/12/2009, -0/+19It's quite a quagmire... and who really ever wants to play bad cop (that's not as the star of a blockbuster movie)?
- norman619, on 05/13/2009, -0/+15Well it's not the ISP's copyrights so it's really not their job to enforce them. Copyright holders know full well it's an impossible task. They are trying to turn ISP's into their UNPAID employees. Now if the copyright holders were willing to fork over some of the cash they get from ISP copyright enforcement then maybe the ISP's wouldn't be so resistant.
- BrownieMix, on 05/13/2009, -4/+19Copyright laws are stupid.
- Fhwqhgads, on 05/13/2009, -1/+16***** the *AA!
- gothicform, on 05/13/2009, -0/+15I like how they want to disconnect non commercial copyright infringers, namely individual file sharers but there is no provision for disconnecting commercial copyright infringers like companies which use my photographs on their websites and then don't act when they get warned.
The moral is simple according to the industry -
Filesharing = bad
Commerical copyright infringement = ok - Exhibitionist, on 05/12/2009, -2/+16Neither the movie industry nor the music industry has "gotten their act together" at all. Either they collectively strike a deal with all major ISPs whereby a broadband package with unlimited music and movie downloads is offered for a small premium above the normal package, or they can ***** off.
- nepidae, on 05/13/2009, -0/+13Yes and I've done the same with music and video games.
- UmarSajid, on 05/13/2009, -0/+9Has anyone ever seen a pirated movie and then gone to buy it, cause you liked it. Why buy crap?
- draxenato, on 05/13/2009, -1/+8It's the sheer practicalities of what they're asking for that's mind boggling, regardless of the ethics involved. The sheer quantity of data that would have to be analysed and possibly decrypted is astronomical.
- UmarSajid, on 05/13/2009, -1/+8The Government says jump, the ISPs replied F**K YOU!
- poidh, on 05/13/2009, -2/+8Every time the media industry try to force us to play by their rules, I'll just download more *****.
Either they come up with a way to allow legal downloads for low cost, or they can carry on pushing DVDs etc and have people pirate.
After years of having to buy casettes, then CDs, VHS then DVDs, and of course paying for rentals and going to the cinema, now it's my turn.
Having said that, I will be paying to go and see Terminator: Salvation and Avatar but other than that they can stick their controlling tactics where the sun don't shine. - billricardi, on 05/13/2009, -1/+7The real issue is that every ISP would be expected to sift and store an insane amount of data under the current proposals. It isn't just a pain in the ass: It isn't possible. Not without tripling the cost of broadband all over the UK, at least. Didn't they do the math?
- ArthurSucks, on 05/13/2009, -2/+8Stolen and Shared are not the same thing.
- MrUploads, on 05/13/2009, -0/+6Send them a DMCA with proof that you have the original photo. I know a photog friend that has done this and it worked.
- Stavrosian, on 05/14/2009, -0/+6Actually, the Government also said "***** YOU!" to this idea, as did the European Parliament,. Basically the only people who want it are the industry lobbyists.
- Rapheal99, on 05/13/2009, -1/+6As the Saying Goes,
SUCK MY FURRY BEANBAGS RIAA/MPAA/IFPA - opitica, on 05/13/2009, -1/+5i just got my second DMCA disconnect a couple days ago, it's more a nuisance than anything
- BrownieMix, on 05/13/2009, -2/+6I love that movie
- Duggan360, on 05/13/2009, -1/+5Giggidy giggidy goo!
- ArthurSucks, on 05/13/2009, -0/+4I buy more music and movies than anyone I know.
- cesig, on 05/14/2009, -0/+4In addition to all of the searching, monitoring and filtering they'd have to do (for free), if the RIAA gets their three strikes wet dream, the ISPs also have to start disconnecting paying customers.
So basically the RIAA wants the ISPs to pay to do the RIAA's bidding. Which is about as logical as anything the RIAA does. - alexforcefive, on 05/13/2009, -0/+4Same way radio works. If someone plays your song, you get the royalties. Pretty easy to work out if the ISP runs its own tracker or whatever
- Wargasmic, on 05/14/2009, -1/+4Maybe if it was worth buying, people ***** would!
- dinglebutt, on 05/13/2009, -2/+5Piracy is Justice.
- BrownieMix, on 05/13/2009, -4/+7Why not share their efforts with the world? Encourage others to use and build upon their ideas?
- Travelsonic, on 05/13/2009, -3/+6Why don't you, you senseless *****?
How do you know if he does / doesn't live on welfare?
Personal attacks.... looks like you know how to win a debate /s
***** off. Buried and reported. - Zoids, on 05/14/2009, -0/+3I'm tired of paying £49.99 (or thereabouts) for new games and £10 to see a film at the cinema.
When I see people compaining about $60 games it makes me wish I was there instead! - istolvampire, on 05/14/2009, -0/+3Along time ago a director named george lucas went against the DGA about credits not showing at the begining of the Star wars movie. He told them to go screw themselves and we have all payed to see his movies because we want to support the artists we like. So artists out there need to promote themselves and get with the times and they will probably see more money in their pockets. The time for these groups is over. I mean have you ever tried to get a 1937 Basil Rathbone movie on DVD? Its impossible. So what options does that leave a person who wants to see it? Everything is going digital so adapt or be destroyed.
- BanditDee, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2Yep, I am satisfy the movies I have bought lately no thanks to Piracy.
- Khast, on 05/13/2009, -2/+4Didn't you know, that's how it works.
Go ahead and try to sue them....because they have better lawyers, and they could fabricate proof that you were the one infringing with the photo you took, using the Chewbacca defense. - norman619, on 05/13/2009, -1/+3The ISP's should charge the movie and recording studios for access to ISP subscribers.
- WomensUnderwear, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2I was saying to myself just yesterday "Where are the 1937 Basil Rathbone movies at? Nowhere, that's where!"
Definitely a conspiracy. - Duggan360, on 05/13/2009, -1/+3He wasn't talking about the movie
- Frostek, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2So, this would work by monitoring your downloads and charging you accordingly?
I can't see the pirates going for that... - scoot2006, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2It's as Trent Reznor put it: everything [artists] make that ends up in a digital medium is free somewhere.
Quality product with an incentive to buy vs pirate is something the movie, television, and music industries need to work on.
They can't stop us all, nor would it benefit them to. - jgtg32a, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2Lets see here, Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect, and Sins (didn't know there was a demo, I've been conditioned to assume there isn't one)
- Krakerjax, on 05/14/2009, -4/+6If a game has that many people on its team, its going to fail from sheer conflict of ideas.
If they spend that much on a movie, its just plain overspending.
Just because you paid a lot to make something, doesn't mean you can charge a lot to show it to people. - HonoredMule, on 05/14/2009, -0/+2"do you know what etc means?"
It means "the directory in my Unix-like OS that holds all the system-wide configuration stuff"
But the big questions are: for what does it actually stand, where did it originate, and why was it picked when it is so easily mistaken for an abbreviation of 'et cetera'? - frazw, on 05/14/2009, -1/+2There is the matter of price vs value to consider.
If a price is so high as to give the impression of poor value for money fewer people will pay for the product. If a price is too low many more people are likely to pay but the return on each purchase is lower.
The key is to find the correct rate which gives both good value for money AND encourages people to buy.
These days people are more aware of company directors and how rich they are and resent paying more than they know something is worth if they think the extra is there just to keep CEOs in Ferraris, cocaine and hookers.
I just want to add that you may claim that a game costs x to make because you need to employ 100+ people to make it but that is exactly the same thinking the **AA use to calculate loses. Most of those people credited are working simultaneously on several if not dozens of projects. The core programming and designers are much fewer in number. Most people are generally employed on long term contracts by their creative house not temporary ones per unit - frazw, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1That's one of the reasons I PC game It's cheaper since I already have a PC.
- eleete, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1Same as here in the states
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?c ... - Wargasmic, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1Hot Fuzz is ***** awesome.
- eleete, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1I'd say locking up content for the life of the artist Plus 70 years is egregious, especially when blockbuster movies become profitable before ever making it to disk. I also would say that there is a blind side to the argument for the public domain. People always say, if people can have it for free that would harm me, they fail to realize, if things were allowed to fade into the public domain, then ALL would have access to ALL that public domain material, meaning everyone would gain exponentially.
- Stavrosian, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1What exactly are you mad at the government for? Repeatedly ruling out the use of disconnection as a punishment?
- init100, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1I completely agree. They mention Spotify and the BBC iPlayer as comparable solutions in Europe, but both are regionally limited. The BBC iPlayer is AFAIK only available in the UK, and Spotify is only available in a select few countries (sure, that includes my country, but that is still far too few to be able to claim good European coverage)
And what about streaming movie and TV sites? There is none in Europe as far as I'm aware of. The movie industry hasn't got any act together at all. - Stavrosian, on 05/14/2009, -1/+2Make digital content more available, and I'll stop pirating. Allow me to view content from all regions as soon as it is available to air in any format in any region and I'll stop pirating. I don't care about the money, I don't pirate because it's free, I do it because it's the only avenue I have to get the content I want. I don't want to watch that movie in the cinema with a bunch of people munching popcorn, I want to watch it in my living room and I don't want to have to wait months to do it. I don't want to have to buy a multi-region DVD player, an NTSC compatible TV and wait for box sets to come out to watch the American television shows I read about online, I want to watch them as soon as they have aired.
I would gladly pay for these services, but the only people offering them aren't asking for any money. Funny old world. - eleete, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1So many people love to shout "If they can get it for free why would anyone pay for it?" The problem is many things that can be had for nothing, people gladly pay for. Look at bottled water. People might pay for the convenience, the higher quality, the little DVD case and the literature inside. Just because music is available on the net for free, does not equate to music sales are non existent today.
- rewritable, on 05/14/2009, -0/+1Yes I have done that with several PC games and movies, but my music collection pre-dates the internets. I haven't heard a song made after 1982 that is worth taking the time to listen to it.
- gothicform, on 05/15/2009, -0/+1DMCA doesn't apply in the UK I'm afraid. I wish it did. To get it taken down here you have to actually threaten to sue the web hosting company for secondary copyright infringement...
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