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- GreenChaos, on 05/08/2008, -5/+259That's no slap, that's a downright flaming falcon kick to the crotch.
- autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -19/+221***** the MPAA.
- headzoo, on 05/08/2008, -7/+143Can we please get some judges on these cases that actually understand the technology they're ruling against?
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -5/+135Well that just makes me want to go buy some more high priced CDs (NOT)
- FishHammer, on 05/08/2008, -6/+110It still won't do a damn thing to stop piracy.
- owlie, on 05/08/2008, -6/+85After Seeing Rappers on MTV Cribs lighting cigars with $100 bills, I feel no guilt in stealing music from the internet.
- ampm2, on 05/08/2008, -5/+78110 millions??? wow... thats what a small country generate every month.....
- drakethegreat, on 05/08/2008, -10/+77I can pull numbers of out my ass. For instance the next time McDonald's charges me for a fry I didn't get I will sue them and say they caused deep problems in my ability to function that day as an employee at my current job and this caused us to not become the hit we could of been and they owe me and my constituents $100 million. Then I woke up and realized that you have to be a corporation to get away with this kind of theft.
- OfNumbers, on 05/08/2008, -9/+73I'm gonna download some more now.
- aimhelix, on 05/08/2008, -6/+69This is just a tiny ding to the BT community. Job well done and kudos to TS by the way, for ultimately fighting hard to protect the privacy of its users. Respect +1.
- brbubba, on 05/08/2008, -5/+66Just for a little frame of reference here... I could open up a movie house, charge $8/person, have 1000 patrons a day, 365 days a year. Now even if the studios netted 100% of that money, which they don't, it would take over 37 years to reach $110 million. So my only question remaining is this: What ***** planet is this judge living on?
- NathanMahdavi, on 05/08/2008, -9/+62Surely he didnt earn $110 Million? Why such a high price? Harsh.
- autosovereign, on 12/06/2008, -8/+54"Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order [...] and the like." - Justice William O. Douglas
- adventchild08, on 05/08/2008, -4/+47What crime did they really commit? They never housed any illegal content on their site...they simply refused to filter what the torrent community wanted to share. The law was twisted so they could be martyrs of piracy.
- row1, on 05/08/2008, -5/+45I thought they were just an indexer (just like Google) and not a tracker.
- xXShadowstormXx, on 05/08/2008, -5/+44How the ***** are they expecting them to pay that much? That's outrageous.
- Emnsta, on 05/08/2008, -11/+48I believe I represent us all when I say, "*****!"
- Tenoq, on 05/08/2008, -2/+29So did Google, by your definition. Can you imagine their fine?
- t0x2c, on 05/08/2008, -4/+30Let's not forget about our friends who started this fiesta, the fantastic RIAA.
- alliekins619, on 05/08/2008, -1/+26To infinity, and beyond.
- nrox653, on 05/08/2008, -10/+35More than the MPAA, ***** all the movie studios who whined to the MPAA.
- Cruelapollo, on 05/08/2008, -5/+29What the ***** is up Lightspeed's ass? He's trying to defend everything they did in like 4 other threads. I think we have ourselves a MPAA agent in our midst.
- headzoo, on 05/08/2008, -1/+23That's like saying Google provides free copyrighted material because you can search for it.
- parallax7d, on 05/08/2008, -4/+25Supplying a publicly available list of torrents is not infringing copyright. No spin needed, just an understanding of the technology.
- bird757, on 05/08/2008, -2/+22I only used TorrentSpy and I was disappointed when they blocked us in the US, but I totally understood. Now I am extra sad. What can we do? Not buy movies anymore?
- gcnaddict, on 05/08/2008, -1/+20Down-B
- Hangly, on 05/08/2008, -3/+21Technically what TorrentSpy was doing did violates the DMCA. But then again singing at your nephew's birthday party violates the DMCA too.
Can't really fault the judge for enforcing the law. You can fault congress and the lobbyists for creating such a *****-up law in the first place.
In the meantime, technology and society are progressing and the US is determined that we be left behind. - generalalcazar, on 05/08/2008, -10/+28I will get buried to bottom on this site for this, but this is one of my pet peeves. One of the things that really gets my goat is the sense of entitlement so many people seem to have today. They feel that everything is owed to them, and get enraged when their source of free, illegally acquired stuff is squashed.
You know what? You are absolutely FREE to make your own music and movies and give them away for free. If you really don't like the product that the MPAA is selling - then don't buy it! If you don't like copyright laws, make your own superior product and give it away.
It drives me nuts to hear people complain on the one hand about how the products the MPAA are selling suck so bad, and then complain that they can't get them for free. If they suck so much - why are you even bothering to watch it? Why do you even care? Here is a solution: if you hate the MPAA so much - don't buy their product!
I understand the benefits of P2P distribution methods - it is awesome for distributing stuff that authors want to distribute in that way, but when a company is making profits by blatantly encouraging copyright infringement, they are just asking for it. Look at Bittorrent for a model of how to do it right. - bigskank, on 05/08/2008, -4/+22This is a default judgment. It basically is a sanction against TorrentSpy for either (1) Pissing off the judge in court, or (2) not showing up to court at all to defend. On default judgment, the plaintiff (the MPAA) gets everything they ask for, and all of the allegations the plaintiff makes are presumed correct because the defendant (TorrentSpy) never showed up to contest them. This case has precisely zero precedential value, and is absolutely no surprise. When someone accuses you of doing something, and you don't show up to defend yourself, the judge has no choice but to order the relief requested by the plaintiff so long as the requested relief is anywhere within the bounds of the law (which this definitely is under our stupid copyright statutes). TorrentSpy basically screwed themselves here.
- makemoneynotart, on 05/08/2008, -12/+29I wonder how much money the judge is getting out of this...
- Akaji, on 05/08/2008, -5/+22Torrents. Think of torrents like lockpicks - yes, they can be used for illegal means, but they can also be used for legal means.
It is not illegal to make the means of theft available (which is why lockpicks and other types of forced-entry devices are still legal to be sold). It is only illegal to directly help in the theft itself (for example, if they were to offer the actual files). Thus, offering torrents should not be illegal. - zspeed78, on 05/08/2008, -1/+18The fines for speeding are pretty high too compared to what you make when you do it.
- carguy84, on 05/08/2008, -2/+18actually it won't
- fotbr, on 05/08/2008, -3/+19Its not like most people pirating movies were buying them in the first place. So, all the pirates refusing to buy movies likely wouldn't matter.
- inactive, on 05/08/2008, -0/+15All of WoW's patches are distributed via torrents. Lots of indie artists also use them, as well as a lot of DJs.
- PopcornDave, on 05/08/2008, -5/+20If the court has decided that he should be penalized merely for indexing information, we're all *****.
- arrrapirate, on 05/08/2008, -0/+13haven't you heard? an mp3 is like 10,000 dollars now.
- selmer, on 05/08/2008, -2/+15how do you do that move? that sounds sweet as hell
- abortionsforall, on 05/08/2008, -1/+13Trent Reznor is distributing the new NIN by way of torrents. Completely legal. There are plenty of other examples as well.
- da_bradler, on 05/08/2008, -1/+12that's the funny part, they don't even host the torrent files. it's more like yahoo then google though as they do put things into categories. I wasn't aware categorizing the files on the internet was a 110 million dollar crime.
- Tenoq, on 05/08/2008, -0/+11To where?
- zspeed78, on 05/08/2008, -2/+13Hopefully they had a corporation and the officers did things correctly to keep themselves from being personally liable. Now all they do is close it down, since theyre out of money, and start over. Businesses do it all the time, I hope they can too.
- PopcornDave, on 05/08/2008, -0/+11Good luck with that. Most of these judges are so damn old that they don't even understand what a torrent is much less probably e-mail.
- Aensland, on 05/08/2008, -2/+12That's what you people were saying, oh, half a decade ago.
- Tenoq, on 05/08/2008, -1/+11You don't get sued for speeding, you just get fined.
- generalalcazar, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10How did that work out for him again? Oh yeah...
- Beakerz, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10Judge hit him with the max ... it ranges from $750 to $30,000 per.
- h4xx3d, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10Yes. There ARE torrents for perfectly legal, free content out there.
- jascination, on 05/08/2008, -3/+13Every day I wait to see the news that the RIAA has stopped such ridiculous measures in order to revive their now obsolete business.
Its like watching a little kid with his eyes closed, fingers in ears saying "lalalala benefiting the artists blahblahblah".. - logan074, on 05/08/2008, -0/+10Yeah because the band sits down and writes the song on the spot and performs it on the first take. Music can take a while to do as well.
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