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TorrentSpy Blocks Searches From US Visitors

torrentfreak.com — Starting today, TorrentSpy blocks all searches from US visitors and redirects them to a privacy statement. TorrentSpy is caught up in a lawsuit in which the MPAA demands that TorrentSpy hands over all user info stored in “random access memory” (RAM).

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  • garionw, on 10/10/2007, -14/+66ouch.... I never really liked it anyway - I prefer mininova
    • physphd, on 10/10/2007, -4/+73Baby steps to censoring the interent in the U.S.
      • STARTSOMETHING, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2@ garionw mininova's next
      • fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Technically, it isn't really censorship when the site itself is doing it. Still, that they were legally strong-armed into this is concerning.
        • fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -16/+2How is it concerning? The site exists solely to facilitate piracy regardless of whatever spin someone might put. At the end of the day that's all it was for and it's no surprise at all that it be "legally strnog-armed" into a corner. The only surprise is it wasn't "legally strong-armed out of existance".
          • kurttrail, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20Another tard that thinks file sharing is only about piracy.
          • CurtHowland, on 10/10/2007, -0/+26Criminals use roads to facilitate bank robberies. Let's ban roads.
          • fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -14/+1Another ***** idiot who thinks legit file sharing is a valid argument on a torrent site renowned for piracy. Aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha.

            You can argue all day that there's legal reasons for file sharing and p2p, all of your arguments are irrelevant when the site in question is one of the larger of the piracy-oriented torrent sites.
          • sinrtb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2umm I never once read or saw anything on their site regarding their piracy orientation. "Criminals use roads to facilitate bank robberies. Let's ban roads." is a valid metaphor in this case. It was always a tool in which to get torrents, they did nothing to censor the torrents nor did they do anything to facilitate piracy.

    • Trax91, on 10/10/2007, -9/+6Yeah, mininova should be the best choice for general torrenting. They are the most visited torrent sites accodring to multiple statistics.
      • norman619, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15This ad brought to Digg by users like you. :)
    • PaulOwen, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21Don't blame TorrentSpy, US citizens or the MPAA - it is the US government that allows organizations to demand the contents of volatile memory from a server.
      • hexydes, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12True, but it is companies like the MPAA that ask for it in the first place, and the US citizens are at fault for not being knowledgeable enough about the situation to demand that the government fix the problem.
        • CurtHowland, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Overarching government {law} _is_ the problem.

          Demanding more government will only make things worse.
    • Amnesia10, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You might prefer mininova but this could be affecting them in exactly the same way as torrentspy. This would only harm US users. In the end if you hate it enough complain to your congressman or representative and get the law changed.
    • noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -5/+0i still use isohunt. their deal to automate the take down of any copyrighted file torrents hasn't done ***** to prevent copyrighted file torrents from being there at all.
      • championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, it's obviously done SOMETHING.
        So if its copyright materials you're after I hope that isn't the only place you look.
    • themastersb, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6It's times like this I'm glad I live in Canada
    • brainboy77, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2doesn't any1 use isohunt?
    • daRoach, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18When they came for the TorrentSpy users I did nothing because I am not a TorrentSpy user.
    • bleep1912, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Nah ah . Torrenz.com is the best, and that's a fact, well not really fair because the post everyones torrents, but still check it out sometime.
      btw no ads, and great simplistic design.
    • ThreeDee912, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Uh... Suprnova?
  • Azimuth1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+211"Sorry, but because you are located in the USA you cannot use the search features of the Torrentspy.com"

    What the *****? I live in England. This is *****.
    • Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -18/+155What you didn't get the memo?

      Bush issued a signing statement and now England is the 51st state of the Empire. Don't worry you'll have all the rights of an American. Well...at least the ones we have left. Cheers.
      • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -33/+2Hope that was a joke and not troofer *****.
        • Bdog2g2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Whose the gullible one the troofer or the troofer hater? I think its pretty obvious that it was a joke. You can rest easy now.
        • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Given some of the comments on here, one cannot be too careful.
      • H0tKarl, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29Smashing good comment, chap.
        • sctwp09, on 10/10/2007, -11/+2I see what you did there.
          • MarkOfTheDead, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I see that you do see what he did there.
        • STARTSOMETHING, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3@ sctwp09 ohh, very observant!
        • p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3lol people from the UK have invaded digg. I welcome the cultural diversity XD
      • CurtHowland, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Next up, FDA bans room-temperature beer as a "health hazard".

        It's for your own good.
    • WalesAlex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I'm next door to you in Wales and can use it perfectly fine, not that I want to or anything.
      • championchap, on 10/20/2007, -0/+3Same here, located in Mid Wales and everything is working peachy!
        Search Results: Ubuntu
        Torrents found: 172| 50 Result Size
    • hiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Working fine for me in England
    • bobcatred, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2U.S proxy?
    • sputty01, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1If your with AOL then you appear to originate from the US, but then again if you have AOL you don't deserve torrentspy.
  • Cabochon, on 10/10/2007, -9/+99I'm glad I live in Canada.
    • dattaway, on 10/10/2007, -10/+13Don't worry. Canada is next. You will soon learn what taxation without representation is all about.
      • uberchaoslord, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13We already have that. We elected what we thought was a conservative and he immediately began doing all the things we hated about the liberals.
        • graemee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The true essence of Canadian politics.
        • skyteria, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's because when the Liberals were elected, they did all the things we hated about the Conservatives.
        • lacronicus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1caugh bush caugh

          dont worry guys, we have those kinds of problems too.
        • rheaume, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You stupid tard, go play with Harpers dick again, we have morons like you to blame for him
      • pixelate, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1And the hosers become the hosed.
    • womz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3What about China, can they do searches?
      :-p
      • championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1China?
        They can't access a couple of my domains! I only bought them to make a couple of joke sites.. apparently China does not like parody.
    • BESTenemy, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Heard anything about this thing called the North American Union?
    • robdavy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I'm in Canada and it is blocking me, saying I'm in the US
    • vacuum2440, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1hahaha same!
    • whappo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I'm with shaw, works fine here. but who uses torrentspy?
    • godmode, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Toronto + Rogers cable = works fine
      • elzurawka, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Except for the fact that Rogers Blocks Torrents. So you can't really seed back to the community. I am currently looking for a new ISP, as i cannot get download faster then 50 kbps, and uploads only go up to like 5.

        Thank god i have the "Extreme" Package, so i can do what i want on the Internet. pfft, what a scam.
    • Newfie41, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I'm using Aliant and it works fine.
  • funchords, on 10/10/2007, -7/+29America: "Home of the Free?"

    I understand and admire TorrentSpy's decision. This protects the privacy of the unwitting. Using foreign proxy services would be a great work-around -- make sure you register your TorrentSpy account to a non-US country.
    • weizilla, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5i registered my torrentspy account to a non-us country and i still can't search
    • bamboo7, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2When they take away our right to steal; promised to us in our constitution. We are truly no longer Land of the Free!
      • norman619, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6There is no theft you tool. It is infringent not theft. Nothing is actually stolen.
        • Travelsonic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1not to mention bamboo missed the point yet again with his bad rhetoric - commiting a crime or not, privacy must be maintained wherever allowed to the strongest degree.
    • geekee, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Or you you could actually pay for the movies instead of stealing them.
      • Travelsonic, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Or you could actually read what is being said.... and you can actually know what you are talking about, but you don't, because you are a troll.
    • IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2You are not "Free" to steal OR infringe.
      • ryankeefe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0and who are you to determine that? Its not stealing, because I'm not taking anything away. I use torrentspy to catch up on some TV shows...how is that stealing? And copyright infringement is just a phrase used to scare people like you into not pirating. The MPAA has too much control over the government, and you are following our stupid copyright laws like a sheep. No other country has copyright laws as ridiculous as the US...what does that tell you? If a small business had, for example, a slogan that they copyrighted, and then somebody else stole it, there might be a lawsuit, and the original copyright holder might win, but they would not be granted millions of dollars the way the MPAA is everytime they sue a pirate.
        • sinrtb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Many software companies are using torrents to distribute content patches and the like. I personally would rather goto a torrent site that is up on patch days then wait for the overloaded html servers to get the link to the latest patch.
        • sputty01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0edit: http/ftp servers :)
        • bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Will you get over yourself? Just because YOU say it is not stealing does not make it true. Stealiong is NPOt legally defined as depriving the owner of the property. You are stelaing POTENTIAL PROFITS. That is a legal definition of stealing. You are not a lawyer, you will NEVER be an expert on law or ANYTHING in your entire leife. So NEVER act like you know what you are talking about on ANYTHING. collect your welfarre check and never bother anyone ever again you worthless piece of garbage.
        • sputty01, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Get off digg you whore! your kind aren't welcome here.
    • toppgun, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4linux, free videos, game demos, etc... when were they illegal?
      • bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Yeah, because more than 0.01% of torrent searches are for those things.
    • huwy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i like how you quoted the question and not the statement
    • badassninja, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Stopped being the land of the free a long time ago.
  • Valermos, on 10/10/2007, -6/+61Who says I can't be from another country? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=free+web+proxy&btnG=Search
    • TypeEE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5yes, you can, but why bother, there are so many other sites.
      • Valermos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Just for the fun of overcoming the limitation, I suppose.
      • sinrtb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Because the other sites will either be forced to do the same or give up your privacy.
        • championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1For every site that is taken down, another 2 will take it's place.
          Every limitation creates a new strength.
          What does not kill us, only makes us stronger.
          Etc.
    • beta1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Haha, I just updated my bookmark to a GB proxy. Why do they bother? haha
    • dontlookdown, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I tried two proxies and they won't work for me. It still brings up the privacy page....
      • Valermos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0You have to make sure the proxies are located in another country
  • SuperOmegaSlack, on 10/10/2007, -13/+34TOR.
    • Matt2k, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24TOR is for more noble purposes than this.
      • fgsfds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7TOR is for avoiding restrictions on free speech. Although this is the kind of use that you probably don't want to shout from the hilltops, it's still a use that allows the bypass of free speech restrictions.

        Remember: Although TorrentSpy decided to block the US, it was not a choice they made voluntarily. They're doing it because they felt it better to stifle their own speech than be forced to help a despotic regime track down and punish people for looking for illegal information and contraband knowledge.
    • virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Porn at school?
    • EBFoxbat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7No.... circumventing packet shaping silly.
    • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4If you use TOR for more than getting hold of the torrents though (like for the actual BitTorrent protocol), the TOR will not be happy at you. :-( It doesn't have the bandwidth to support you like that. But sure, if you just want to get hold of them and let BitTorrent bypass the routers, that would be more OK.
      • daftman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You use Tor to search the site, not to get bittorrent traffic. Bittorrent traffic can still operates as normal.
    • brasso, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Its Tor.
  • Brereton55, on 10/10/2007, -15/+44Who still uses that website anyway?
    • zybch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Seems (for me anyway) that I tend to get results that suite me better at torrentspy that at TPB and others. Good thing I don't live in the US so I can still search there :)
      • toastgodsupreme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Agreed. As much as I love TPB and stand by them, a lot of times, I can find something on TorrentSpy and can't find it on TPB. Don't know why that would happen though since they should pull from the same set of sources. *shrug* Oh well. I appreciate that TorrentSpy is protecting us by doing this instead of pretending like nothing's wrong.
    • jessicass, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2it's all about demonoid and torrentleech.org for me.
      • Burnout, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Some of us haven't been able to get into demonoid.
        • jessicass, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I have some invite codes if you want one.
        • Ukonu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1@jessicass

          Wow, people actually still give those out without asking for something in return? Could I get one please? osagie@gmail.com
        • championchap, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1how is anyone not a member?!
          They open registrations fairly regularly, and you can create as many invite codes as you like.

          I guess it's easy for me to say though, I joined well before the invite system was implemented.
      • Burnout, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Yeah send one to burnoutsmith@gmail.com. Thanks.
    • TypeEE, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I used to use torrentspy too, but now that I tried piratebay, I think it's just as good
    • VivaNOLA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It seems to have a lot more commenting that's often very useful - even if I end up downloading the actual file from another site.
    • Genma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2their t-shirts aint half bad either, $20 is kind of steep though.

      http://static.torrentspy.com/gfx/walcott_full.jpg
  • Tharcarious, on 10/10/2007, -16/+8Pirate Bay FTW
  • HarryTruman, on 10/10/2007, -3/+87"the MPAA demands that TorrentSpy hands over all user info stored in “random access memory” (RAM)."

    They should just go ahead and hand over all that user data...that they store in their RAM...??!
    • UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6If they stored it in their ram, it's gone by now.
      • Hoinah, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25MPAA: Give us that RAM data!
        Them: oops some dumb intern reset the computers...
        • plantfood, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5we demand you give us the name of said dumb intern, or we will be forced to pursue legal action
        • Ebeniz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+40ok, here's the RAM sticks... Good luck
      • pantysniffer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just turn off the servers, remove the sims and give it to them , good look trying to find something stored ...
        • xxpor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+131995 called, they want their SIMMS back.
        • jisatsusha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Just turn off the servers, remove the DIMMs and give it to them"

          Fixed that for you.
        • jus1haz2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What about if it's RIMMs
      • spookyttws, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Last time I checked you can't be arrested for entering in a keyword. But then again, in bushes America, I guess looking for Spiderman 3 is illegal. (as well it would be, that was a horrible movie)
    • Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6But, if it's on demand for the MPAA, I suppose that could mean access at any time, which would mean active connections are *****.
      • Hoinah, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2searches searches searches
      • bioskope, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1active connections...wot?????

        Since when did TS have their own tracker?

    • illu45, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I would imagine that they mean "all data that passes through the RAM", although with the RIAA, you never really know, do you?
    • illu45, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1I would imagine that they mean "all data that passes through the RAM", although with the RIAA, you never really know, do you?
    • fgsfds, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31I think they should do exactly that - Have a single low-capacity server with ultra-underclocked RAM and an insanely fast RAID (30 or so cheap disks in a stripe configuration) handle the US, and start logging raw RAM writes. Then send them the entire log via email in 2mb chunks. Since raw RAM writes are fairly worthless, the MPAA should soon realizes that they're getting TBs of useless junk data clogging their systems. The MPAA couldn't exactly complain to the judge, as TS would are providing exactly what the MPAA was requesting in exactly the way it was requested. Even better? The RAM used by the RAM logging program would naturally have to be logged, which could result in a HOM effect that would quickly saturate the logs.

      I don't have a problem with the MPAA defending their property, I just have a problem with stupid precedents set and laws made by idiot judges and lawyers who have no idea how what they're legislating functions.
      • flatlinebb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or they could just rip out some RAM modules and send them to the RIAA/MPAA. Have fun making keychains from RAM!
      • nairanvac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1clogging their tubes*
    • noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1personally i think they should print the logs out and send it snail mail to the mpaa with a postage on delivery type service. when the mpaa gets the equivalent of an entire forest worth of paper and has to pay for shipping they'll question their own request long and hard.
      • fani, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3You idiot. You want to destroy the environment to teach RIAA/MPAA a lesson ? Moron.
    • Genma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3that's already been covered in this case. read article 4, especially parts b, c, d, e holy crap they covered their bases. I can see why torrentspy is avoiding the US like the plague it is.

      basically what the mpaa is trying to prove is that ram = tangible data, but what you me and the mpaa know is that it all depends on *how much* of it you want to reproduce, and that is their way in. they claim that the records they want is not a significant burden because they only want what's relevant to the case, as in torrent file http requests only, but if they set this precidence it could be the basis of abuse for litigation all over the net.

      also people are confusing this with one of the riaa's retard cases, they are not asking for individual IPs, in fact they state clearly they are expected to be masked. what they want is proof of the requests for torrents, but the catch is they also want to be able to identify requests from identical addresses. basically they just want an inch now, so they can take ALL OUR TUBES later.
    • cyclingco, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0with so many users and so much on logs, most logs on big sites are purged within a couple of days due to the massive size of them (though I wonder with the recent drop in massive media storage prices if they hang on to more logs, been out of the bittorrent loop for a year or so), esp bc the owners of these sites understand that they have no use for the logs and they can only incriminate people.

      Even then, there is the work around that the logs only show who downloaded the torrents to their computers, not the actual files. So then they have to find that person and prove that they have downloaded the actual property. The torrent only shows the ability to commit a crime against copyright, not the ownership of copyrighted material, however, this is the equivalent of owning two VCRs, some blank VHS tapes, and audio video cords to connect them, not the equivalent of owning copies of movies on VHS.

      That being said, if you're in the US and have used torrent spy(esp recently), I would transfer all your files to some backup media and wipe your system clean, but you should be doing that on a regular basis if you are downloading copyrighted material, even off torrents. better safe than sorry.
  • HenvY, on 10/10/2007, -8/+66This is a shame for US users because i've always found that TorrentSpy has the best layout and GUI of any torrent search engine. ***** MPAA. :/
    • UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/10/2007, -11/+3MiniNova is much better than TorrentSpy at, well, everything.
    • cyclingco, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0the torrent industry is like the hydra, you cut off one head and ten take its place
  • thomascirca, on 10/10/2007, -2/+50this does not bode well for the future of torrent sites and torrent users. even if it does get shut down, remember:

    "this is how it works. Whatever you sink, we build back up. Whomever you sue, ten new pirates are recruited. Wherever you go, we are already ahead of you. You are the past and the forgotten, we are the internet and the future."
  • madh4tter, on 10/10/2007, -2/+72One goes down, another springs up. So goes the way of the pirate.
  • Snoius, on 10/10/2007, -7/+24Apparently, the University of Nebraska isn't part of the United States anymore, the site loads fine for me.
    • Fayettemat, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2Nor is the Kennesaw State University (Ga Uni) since it loads for me lol I could get in trouble for just hitting that site I'm betting but I just went from this post so :P
      • Hoinah, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7No the only trouble comes from SEARCHING. US users can still go to the site, can still browse, can still download, they just can't SEARCH
        • ThrobbingBrain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1*****. I can get to the page with the category listing, but as soon as I click on Video, Audio, etc I get denied.
  • SPNKrPunk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29"the MPAA demands that TorrentSpy hands over all user info stored in 'random access memory' (RAM)."

    Stop me if I'm wrong here. The MPAA, in their infinite lack of wisdom, wants TorrentSpy to dump the contents of their server RAM into a log file so that volatile data is not lost. Wouldn't that produce massive, unusable log files?
    • toogle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ah but if you force them to store all of the datathat has passed through the system RAM for the rest of the life of the site, they can just kill them in storage costs, or bury them in hard drives. Its an interesting tactic...
      • jefu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2So they should produce massive, detailed logs of all the info the MPAA wants and it should dump all of RAM and all the swap (if any) in hex every minute or so and require that the MPAA take it in real time. And that the MPAA pay for the connection. After all its the MPAA that wants it. That way the MPAA can be buried in hard drives and connection fees.
    • dualscreenman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I'm waiting for the judge to try to open up a multi-petabyte "RAM log" in Notepad, lulz.
      • devate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Obviously that file is far too large for notepad....he'd have to use wordpad, geez.
    • jmnormand, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10well you see judge since we had no way of knowing which part of the binary was the ip we simply had to pick out ever possible 16 digits out of the terabytes of code and now we want to sue every possibility just to be sure... well yes we realize there are more ips here than people living in the us but... but...
  • baalzebub, on 10/10/2007, -3/+127just unplug the RAM and put it in an envelope and snail mail it to them, oh, be sure to have some new RAM to replace it with first...
    • Hoinah, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14I could so see that actually happening
    • noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20send the mpaa a bill for the replacement ram and file a counter suit if they don't pay.
  • obfuscated7ruth, on 10/10/2007, -8/+0tough being a torrent site now a days. All of them are fighting the copyright peeps, but they're getting shut down one by one.
  • lava, on 10/10/2007, -14/+8Well, ***** torrentspy. I haven't used that ***** website in a long time. Mininova and PirateBay FTW.
    • myak, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Well, ***** US. I haven't cared for that ***** country in a long time. I don't really care for torrents and I support MPAA actions as I hate thieves but US pisses me off with its so called freedom. I can't even watch a stupid DivX movie on a default Linux installation in 95% of distros because US has the most stupid laws, called software patents, ever. Everyone should obey because US are an empire!!!!11111cos(0)

      You couldn't care less about the rest of the world (well, you do care for world's oil and so called peace and democracy usually forced by war) so why should the world care about you? Finally someone had courage to say "Hey, you know what? ***** the America!" and I admire and support their actions for that one reason.
      • goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Hey man, its not me; its those assholes that control everyone and exploit them for their money. Don't blame me, I never asked to be born here. But I see where your coming from. I mostly see a bunch of moronic rednecks and neocons supporting corruption/etc, here in America. I also live in a state where a lot of these assholes live. AKA Red State. (Arizona). And half of them dont even follow their own ideals. hahah, they just put these stupid stickers on their cars that say support the troops; and for what?? So they can go and die? If I could live where you live that would be wonderful but I don't have the money too move/etc. Maybe then I can turn on the news and not hear drama every ***** day of repeated *****. We dont even have real news here. Its lame ***** about the president ***** on America and America ***** on the world.
        • myak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0You wouldn't like to live where I live, believe me :D Well, it is European Union but Poland is even more sick than US, at least when it comes to politicians, laws and things like that. You talk about drama and repeated *****, read some news about Poland and laugh because we're having a real comedy here that would top the box office charts and make billions of USD if it were played in cinema theathers. Oh wait, you can't read news about Poland because "we is Engrish not understant". I could elaborate on this subject for hours and hours and you'd be happy that you live in US most of the time but it's waaaay too off topic.
          I suppose it's not you, literally. But someone did vote and in fact elected people who enforced those laws. I firmly believe most of Digg readers didn't, but US, like any other democracy, is ruled by idiots who elect idiots who then do idiotic things. And when the idiocy reaches its maximum, people finally elect someone who is the right person on the right place (e.g. Margaret Thatcher in UK) and that's why democracy is good. Unfortunately d(idiocy)/dt >> 0 in US (in case you're not familiar with calculus, it means that idiocy is growing fast in time ;) but I hope someday US citizens will wake up. Hopefully on the 2008 election. And maybe then someone will get things right.
      • goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2But to clarify, MPAA is bad. Torrents are very good as well. But other then those stupid statements, I agree.
      • anamanaman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Europe is doing so much better right now. Germany is deciding now on whether to ban the creation (as opposed to sale) of violent video games. England has the gestapo monitoring its citizens with cameras on every street (though its been pretty effective against terrorism). France and Spain have huge Muslim populations ready and willing to declare civil war on its own country. Tax rates and unemployment are skyrocketing everywhere forcing european countries to elect conservatives to help piece together their shattered economies that cant compete on the global market.

        The point is, you can talk ***** about any place. US happens to have some of the best individual freedoms in the world (1st amendment .. who else has that?) and the top economic climate bar none. Whine and bitch about people not having free health care, but they also dont have to pay 70% of their money to the government.

        If course I don't really care to discourage any ***** European from deciding that America sucks because a dumb court decision. I'll let you continue your lifetime production of ***** that will paralyze their chances of being a productive member of society and competing with us for talent and resources.
  • 42Vindictive, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7Great, now the U.S. people know what it feels like when ABC and other stations is U.S. only... (I'M LOOKING AT YOU COD4 BETA)
    • Azimuth1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I'm in England and I've got the CoD4 beta. How? Lying FTW.
    • bubba9999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The Australian Broadcast Corp is US only?
  • blanktarget, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25All information stored in RAM? So...reboot their servers.
    • SuckMyDigg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually that would be too obvious... now that they've been ordered to save it. However, if they were running Windows for any of their services I could see some legitimate excuses for the reboot.
      • Pinhedd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2oops, I tripped over the power cord.
    • renegadeafk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2*Ooops power outage
  • 30h193ool28t21, on 10/10/2007, -18/+8IM IN YER TORENT
    FILTERIN YER SEERCH
  • mrmatchgame, on 10/10/2007, -15/+10Who still uses TorrentSpy? TorrentSpy is the Kazaa of torrent sites
    • Jugalator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I thought The Pirate Bay was that. Hugely popular, and virus infected torrents here and there. ;) Fortunately it at least still has a comment system, so reading those use to sort things out. I wish they would have a rating system though, like with the newly returned Suprnova.
      • anamanaman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You people must not have discovered AdBlock. It'll turn your internet life into a ray of sunshine.
  • mrwiggles123, on 10/10/2007, -4/+126They are blocking because they have to report you, ***** idiots

    right on torrentspy
    • Hoinah, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22funny thing is, you could just google "Torrentspy (search query)"
      Torrentspy only has to report what you _SEARCH_ for, not what you access, leech or seed. heh the MPAA is so ***** retarded
      • napsack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10I can totally imagine people searching a bunch of ***** 'bush anal xxx' '***** mpaa' etc.. lol
  • mikefitz2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Who cares, honestly? There is a TON of money to be made from ad revenue on torrent hosting sites. When one goes down, ten more will pop up full of useful torrent files and useless ads that people will click on.
  • geddon, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18i remember something about a tea party in boston. if i remember correctly, the citizens of the united states protested against british taxation without representation by.. (let me get this straight).. sitting in their homes, complaining on digg, playing warcraft to pass the time. viva la revolucion!
    • mikefitz2, on 10/10/2007, -12/+7What exactly are you getting at? Your analogy makes zero sense.
      • knetworx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10It makes perfect sense if you know how to interpret it (...or if you learned anything in your history classes.) He's saying we're all retarded for sitting here on Digg complaining about it instead of going out and trying to do something about it (such as our ancestors did at the Boston Tea Party.) ....And yet, for some reason, geddon has 0 diggs, and mikefitz2 has +3 diggs.....I guess it's true, our educational system really is failing miserably.
  • halogen9, on 10/10/2007, -16/+1This is why people should just use ***** USENET.
    • diagonalfish, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Someone tell this person the rules.
    • Xizer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Usenet sucks for things that haven't just come out within the past few months.

      Also, if you use Usenet, you violated the most important rule of Usenet: Don't talk about it.
    • DarthDubbya, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0STFU WANKER!
    • noumuon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0there will always be u**net and i*c to download stuff just as there always has been.
  • robisfunky, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
  • Zach978, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Check this link out (via free proxie @ http://www.surfplate.info/ ):

    http://www.surfplate.info/index.php?__script_get_form=aHR0cDovL3d3dy50b3JyZW50c3B5LmNvbS9zZWFyY2g%253D&query=metallica&submit.x=19&submit.y=12
  • ripstuntz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wait wait wait... So now the MPAA believes that torrent sites don't shut down their computers... EVER?

    RAM is volatile, everything is erased off of it when the flow of electricty is no longer present.

    Are you sure they don't want the Hard Drives..?
    • jmnormand, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1they do log traffic on the hard drives so the there is no useful information ever touching the hard drives... this is why the mpaa is trying to force them to log the ram
    • anamanaman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Its really really insane. Luckily the fact that the judges are so computer illiterate means they can hand them any chunk of random bits every month and claim that's their RAM dump, "interpret it as you will"
  • HerbSolo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Hey - if i ran that service, i wouldn't have a problem with that demand. I'd immediately dismount my ram, and send it to them.
  • SrDigger, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Don't let them open Pandora's Box! FTW!
  • SrDigger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1MPAA next step is to ask Digg for the list of users that dugg this. ***** them!
  • bblande, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3How dare they take away my right to pirate.
  • ghall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0TorrentSpy sucks anyway.

    But trying to get any data off a RAM card is like trying to read an empty book. Your not going to get any info, as soon as power is cut from the RAM card, the data disappears.
    • YourDoom123, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1the mpaa is forcing them to log all data that passes through the RAM... now, the question is, does the data have to be in a human/machine readable format, or can the data be encoded...:-P
  • bigfly012, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I just checked torrent spy, and I had no problem with it either. Have other people been having problems?
  • jkoski, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2As far as I understand, BitTorrent's defense initially was that they never saved the IP's of the requesting computers so they had nothing to give. The assho- I mean, the MPAA says that for however a brief period of time the IP's existed in RAM, they were, in fact, save on some sort of medium and therefore should provide a log of all the IP's no matter how brief they were 'saved' in RAM.
  • sctwp09, on 10/10/2007, -5/+30***** Alberto Gonzales.
    • Daiken, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3funniest comment yet
    • pcghost, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Kind of irrelevant to the discussion, but I just can't help but digg up your comment for serious truthiness.
    • brainboy77, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I guess you didn't hear. The dumb ***** resigned.
  • NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Hello foreign Proxy... XD
  • colonelpanic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Booo TorrentSpy blocking the US....

    Hooray Beer!
    (beer can be used interchangeably with demonoid)
  • neoq36, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6TorrentSpy to MPAA

    "we had to reboot our systems.....we'll send you everything we have in RAM once the systems are back up"
  • oriondarkwood, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager
    Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank Tampering"...
    Damn kids. They're all alike.

    But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain,
    ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what
    made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
    I am a hacker, enter my world...
    Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of
    the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
    Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

    I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers explain
    for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it. "No, Ms.
    Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
    Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

    I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this is
    cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I
    screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me...
    Or feels threatened by me...
    Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
    Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
    Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

    And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through
    the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is
    sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board is
    found.
    "This is it... this is where I belong..."
    I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to
    them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...
    Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

    You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at
    school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip
    through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or
    ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us will-
    ing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

    This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch, the
    beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without paying
    for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering gluttons, and
    you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us criminals. We seek
    after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color,
    without nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
    You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us
    and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

    Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is
    that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
    My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive me
    for.

    I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this individual,
    but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.
    • EllasIsKing, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This text is atleast 15 years old. I remember Da Chronic (not Dre for you young ones) had released that text as part of his "software". Anyone else in here old enough to know what I'm talking about?
      • Lemm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Nah, I'm still chanting 'Mess with the Best; Die like the Rest' over and over in my head.
    • tito13kfm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Mentor, is that you? j/k
    • mbthompson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Wow, the Hacker Manifesto. Haven't read that in a long time. I think I may be one of the few that understands the board and baud references. Oh for the days of multi-node!
    • Onetrack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3OMG Its Mentors Hacker manifesto, orion I havnt' read that since back when my amiga 500 was shiny and new.
      That was just awesome and brought a tear to my eye, oh for the nostalgia.

      Young peckerheads today don't even know how cool those words are.
      Mentor ftw.
  • SupremeBeing, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10.
  • Kdurrty, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Wowz I'm now fucxed. WHERE AM I GONZ GET MY TORRENTZ NOWZ?
  • norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I just use ISOhunt and TPB. Never had any issues finding what I'm looking for.
  • HLightcap, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Quick RAM lesson for some of you on here. Ram holds data while it is being transferred around your computer for milliseconds, it stores nothing. What you are being protected from by torrentspy's decision is; that for a millisecond while your ip and the file it is connecting to are traveling through their servers they do not save a log of the data giving the MPAA a digital fingerprint that they use to take 1000 more Floridian teens to court for copyright infringement. And for you technorangers who feel the need to knock that site, piss off it is an excellent site especially for those who may not be as net savvy as the rest of us. I don't know about you but I found there setup excellent; it was completely user friendly and I managed to teach my farther and grandfather how to download from there, and I will have to think long and hard about where to direct them now.
  • maddog, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Blocking sites?...This is America not ***** China!
    • Markieman234, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0MPAA requesting a full list of users that accessed a particular site and breaching people's privacy certainly sounds like the practices of the KGB or STASI during former Soviet times, except in this case it's not state secrets that are at risk, it's revenue.
      If the US federal government condones this kind of behaviour (it dosn't seem like they've stopped the MPAA from doing so in the past), it sounds like America could be the new up and coming China.
    • Onetrack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2yeah but chinas citizens have more rights..

      /just sayin...
  • mateo60, on 10/10/2007, -1/+24Actually, I appreciate Torrentspy doing this. They know that their records could get turned over and they don't want any users to get in trouble.
  • DrScott, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2But I bought the "Vine" Torrentspy T-shirt! Now if I wear it I'll be subject to ridicule!
  • vacuum2440, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1lol well who used torrentspy anyways...piratebay.org is where its at
  • unrealmp3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4If they block the US users for long enough before handing a RAM memory dump, they won't have any possible US IP addresses.
    If TorrentSpy die, at least they won't bring any US users down with them.

    Good move.
  • Jtheletter, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I'm not sure that this request for RAM data will hold up in court. IIRC there is precedent that if something does not exist, it can not be sequestered by the court, or rather, the defendant doesn't have to go out of their way to create requested evidence if it isn't already available. In this case the MPAA wants the data present in the RAM, but there isn't already a method of reading out and storing this data in real time. The defendants would have to CREATE the program and method to capture this data, which they cannot be compelled to do. If anyone knows the relevant case law that supports this I'd love to get a link to it. Or if I'm completely wrong a well-reasoned rebuttal would also be useful.
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