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- LANjackal, on 04/09/2009, -0/+109TWC's trying to kill of streaming video to protect its own services, hence the bandwidth caps.
- latenightlab, on 04/09/2009, -1/+82Time Warner is the devil.
- Aerynvala, on 04/09/2009, -0/+61Well, I guess I'll be switching to Verizon FiOS after all. Lucky for me they just wired my entire apartment complex.
- apothekari, on 04/09/2009, -1/+62The second these caps go into place, Time Warner is out of my house.
They once got $120.00 a month from me just a few years ago and now I am down to $8.00 basic, basic cable and $50.00 cable internet.
Good business model you greedy *****. - OptimisticCynic, on 04/09/2009, -0/+54Outrageous. If this is allowed to continue it'll only be a matter of time before all ISPs follow suit.
- AgeofMastery, on 04/09/2009, -1/+42At least Comcast's cap is 250GB a month. The highest TWC, (who I have), plan to offer is 40GB.
Pathetic. - tj111, on 04/09/2009, -1/+41I know that when they try to roll the caps out in my area I'll switch immediately. I'll also cancel my Digital cable plan. I'm not gonna support their ***** data pricing plans; I'm even willing to pay more to get the same service I was getting from a competing company (which currently is only AT&T uVerse).
- inactive, on 04/09/2009, -0/+39To use their same argument, they should also look at charging for cable tv based on the same model. I mean I only watch TV for an hour or so a day, the people across the street with the stay home mom and 5 kids have the TV running all day.
Wheres the justice !! - SlayerConman, on 04/09/2009, -0/+36Well, then surely Time Warner Cable COO Landel Hobbs won't mind if we apply the same lunchtime example of you wouldn't split the bill if your friend ordered a steak and you ordered a salad to TWC's cable programming then. I don't watch all of the channels on my cable package, but I'm sure charged for them. Why should I have to pay for Country Music Television or any number of channels I'm not interested in? I'm never going to watch them. How about applying your flawed example to your entire business model, Mr. Hobbs, or would that eat into your pocketbook just as much as the caps you're proposing would eat into ours?
If, Mr. Hobbs, the arrangement to split the bill was made before you arrived at the restaurant, you should probably honor that. If your friend is a big enough a-hole to order the steak while you order the salad...don't invite him to dinner again. Just like I won't be inviting TWC to be my ISP again if they go through with forcing me to pay for their steak while I get a salad. - SoundJudgment, on 04/09/2009, -3/+36Comcrap... CocX...Road-Wanker... they are all the same BSers. You know it, and we all know it. All this Internet Bandwidth-Capping is nothing more than protecting their Cable TV / Pay-per view CASH COW. Soon as they saw that video distribution was going all Net... they had to come up with some ridiculous notion of 'Not having enough Bandwidth' and crying foul... and then RAPING their customer-base. Biggest farce ever. THE ARE Electric PIPES... the providers don't create any magical 'Bandwidth.' They treat it like it is a finite-commodity produced at some super-secret factory, and the Public bends over and takes it up the rear without any vasoline. Stop lying to us, you CocX suckers!
- inactive, on 04/09/2009, -0/+32***** monopolies. If time warner does this I'm going DSL. It's not like I can choose a different cable provider.
- Macam, on 04/09/2009, -1/+28Keep calling, keep complaining, keep pushing. Austin-ites: 512-485-5555.
- Solkre, on 04/09/2009, -0/+26Why would 6mbps suck if it has no cap?
- Solkre, on 04/09/2009, -1/+26This is like having a sports car with a 10 mile range between fill ups.
- Retrokid, on 04/09/2009, -0/+25 "When you go to lunch with a friend, do you split the bill in half if he gets the steak and you have a salad?"
When you go to an All-you-can-eat Buffet with a friend, do you expect to pay less than him, just because you eat less? - pahomi, on 04/09/2009, -0/+23Oh my God i can't believe how absurd this all is...I live in Romania and have a 10Mbit line and 50Mbit with other users of my ISP (it's a major one)...torrents are downloading with 5-6 MBYTES/sec...my traffic is at least 150 GB/month but lucky for us, there are no limitations. And what do i pay for all this? Roughly 10$/month.
TWC must be stopped because i am afraid others all over the world will follow....The internet has become a threat to our greedy Movie / Music Industry but also for our Governments and they are trying to control it...who better to start this then Time Warner?
We must protect the internet! - reyoo30309, on 04/09/2009, -0/+22***** them, I am switching companies.
- Halotosis, on 04/09/2009, -0/+21It's should be pretty obvious why they are doing this. TWC is the products of a massive media company. With Netflix streaming, Hulu and other online streaming becoming popular (not to mention, being able to download illegally), the need for traditional sources of media (cable, HBO, Cinemax, DVD, BluRay, etc) are becoming increasingly and increasingly obsolete. This scares the crap out of these guys; neither the MPAA or RIAA members have shown the malleability to adapt their aging business models to our new technological reality. So, impose some draconian bandwidth cap, that'll stop 'em, right?
- texas85, on 04/09/2009, -0/+195GB is just ridiculous. Time to upgrade to dial up?
- shadus, on 04/09/2009, -0/+19More or a less.
In this case however, I think the issue less about them trying to make more money and more about them trying to prevent people from using streaming content. To put it another way, they're trying to hold onto their market and streaming content scares the ***** outta them. They want you to watch PPV, not Hulu or netflix. - drbadass, on 04/09/2009, -0/+18So essentially what you're saying there is that it's ENTIRELY about making more money.
- dattaway, on 04/09/2009, -0/+18What's the point of high speed broadband if it only goes a short distance each month?
- adml_shake, on 04/09/2009, -1/+18Even 250GB a month is complete *****. And anyone who says otherwise is very short sighted. Yes, now it seems like a lot, however with up and coming services like Hulu, and netflix on deman(HD) you are going to reach that cap pretty damn quick. This is nothing but a ploy to get the public to pay a higher rate for their "premium services" that they will offer in the future. You pay 20 bucks a month extra for the cap removal or a higher one, and they give packet priority to their on demand services with all the TV shows and movies they think you want to watch.
- GanonApocalypse, on 04/09/2009, -0/+17Everyone spread the word to ditch them as soon as the new cap gets to you. Then laugh as TWC fails with no customers.
- sHockz, on 04/09/2009, -0/+16yea and your only allowed to fill up once a month
- Solid07, on 04/09/2009, -0/+16The definition of greed.
- CaptMonkey, on 04/09/2009, -0/+16Anyone who can make Comcast look like they're standing up for the customer *must* be the devil.
- trentrezn0r, on 04/09/2009, -0/+15Unfortunately here in Rochester, NY we don' have Verizon FiOS available, nor any other respectable broadband providers. We're screwed. ***** TWC owns Bordwalk, Park Place, and all the railroads.
- dasunst3r, on 04/09/2009, -1/+16Congressman Eric Massa could not have put it more succinctly. It inhibits innovation and is outright price gouging. I'm planning on filing a complaint to the Texas AG. I recommend other folks do the same thing to make their point that this will not be accepted.
Reference: http://massa.house.gov/?sectionid=24§iontr ... - 13att13, on 04/09/2009, -0/+14"When you go to lunch with a friend, do you split the bill in half if he gets the steak and you have a salad?"
When I watch cable tv, do I pay for the steak even though I only watched a salad's worth of tv?
If TWC thinks holding their customers to a double standard is going to help their business, then the only wake-up call they're going to understand is the one where I call them up on the phone and tell them to simultaneously cancel my service and go ***** themselves.
@TWC Customers - Speak with your money when it comes to this *****. If you don't like the caps, cancel your service and look elsewhere. If everyone's too scared to jump ship then the other ISPs aren't going to think they can compete and TWC will be left unchecked. I for one will be looking into FIOS from Verizon ASAFP. - Mutt76, on 04/09/2009, -0/+14You guys don't have Google in Texas?
- ProjectGSX, on 04/09/2009, -0/+14I cancelled my Time Warner account last year. If you are pissed off about this, its the only message they understand.
- taketheleap, on 04/09/2009, -2/+15Thank god I live in Canada; we don't have to deal with Comcast or Time Warner...
... although Bell and/or Rogers are ALMOST as ridiculous. - removesstains, on 04/09/2009, -0/+13Man caps are a sure fire way to screw the consumer. So many grandma's will be screwed when little Emma comes over and goes over her cap watching fred on youtube and downloading Hanna Montana crap.
- thirdeyeopen, on 04/09/2009, -0/+12Well, this will either be the end of the internet, or the end of ***** ISPs.
- djbon2112, on 04/09/2009, -0/+12It's not THAT slow.
- scoot2006, on 04/09/2009, -0/+10I really hope there's a large customer backlash for this *****. That's the only way they'll even consider reversing it.
- lutafin, on 04/09/2009, -0/+10FTA: The thinking here is that most customers currently use only 4GB per month or so, and offering those customers a cheaper rate is actually doing them a favor.
If they were not money hungry bastards they would just make a separate plan for those people and leave the current service untouched. - fentanyl, on 04/09/2009, -0/+9By running a 6Mbps connection at max download speed 24/7, you could download about 1.81TB of data every month (I calculated for 30 days). Beats any caps if you ask me.
- DarkStar3333, on 04/09/2009, -0/+9TekSavvy For The Win (they deserve better then the abbreviation).
5MB DSL for around $30/m with a 200GB cap with premiem routing on torix peer1. You can buy huge blocks of additional cap for a few bucks but Ive never been charged even when I did go over.
You can completely avoid any Bell torrent throttling with a simple MLPPP implemtation on a WRT54GL flashed with an Open Source firmware.
http://www.teksavvy.com/ - Weip, on 04/09/2009, -0/+8Well, I have 30 gb caps since 5 years with Videotron. FML
- Scira, on 04/09/2009, -0/+8Maybe the 5GB cap should cost about 5$, then they would have at least a shred of an argument about helping consumers.
- aarons44, on 04/09/2009, -1/+9Google has been making HUGE investments in infrastructure. People have been debating for over a year now whether Google would be launching their own ISP.
Google, oh Google, where art thou when we need you? - Asten77, on 04/10/2009, -0/+8That sounds perfect. At least your 5gb will LAST the entire month.
- marcusone, on 04/09/2009, -0/+8ALMOST? There is no ALMOST... Bell and Rogers are just as bad! Rogers: 95GB limit (with ridiculous throttling in place I might add) for 59.99/month (10Mb) and doesn't include the modem!
or for 16Mb its a whopping 99.95/month and guess how much B/W??? 95GB ... ridiculous!
Bell really isn't any better and unless you are really close to a central office you can't get better than 7Mb service.
The only way out is to go with a Third party like teksavvy or Acanac (but you don't avoid the throttling unless you do some proxying - which Acanac offers).
Canadians have suffered with a Duopoly for a very long time... and most people really deal with a Monopoly (as many areas you can only get one or the other service)! And don't try and say its because we have less of a population... Rogers PROFITS are in the Billions (and in case you aren't sure, profits are after paying taxes, salaries, capital expenditures, etc)! - TheInformer, on 04/09/2009, -0/+7I've done the same thing as you. TV is such a wasteland today that it's just not worth the $$$ for all of the extra channels that I'm not going to watch. An a la carte pricing scene would be a better alternative.
As for the cap, I too am leaving Time Warner the minute the caps come to my area. Continuing with them at that point just rewards them for their behavior. - inactive, on 04/09/2009, -0/+7Grab your pitch forks.... we are on the move
- trentrezn0r, on 04/09/2009, -0/+7I love in Rochester, NY. This is BS. Thankfully Congressmen Massa and Maffei are getting involved and are planning on drafting legislation against this.
- fictionalOne, on 04/09/2009, -0/+6My question is, why don't they do this for their cable services as well. I only want to watch a handful of cable shows, and shouldn't have to subscribe to 1,000 channels of crap and pay an extra if for 20 channels of HBO crap. If they did this, then maybe I wouldn't mind so much about the bandwidth cap (i'll just go to nearest free wifi for a few hours when I need to pira.. er... download legal files). Who's with me on this?
- ByteMeAHole, on 04/09/2009, -0/+6Remember TWC has to apply to be the "cable" company in your area and that can be removed. So write to the BBB, and complain, also write to your local representatives that have awarded them the franchise. When they come up for renewal, go to the meeting. Be a royal pain in their butt...
Then when FiOS comes to your area, switch ASAP.... Hopefully, they don't jump onto this BS bandwagon...
I was with Commie-cast, and punted as soon as they started with the 250Gb cap non-sense, now I have FiOS and regularly burn through 1TB per month in uploads and downloads. -
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