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- coder_cotton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+44I can't wait till Google gets to Phoenix. I'd gladly look at adsense all day for free wifi if they go ad-supported even.
- CursedMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33If it was a public service, we would have to pay taxes.
- crispyart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26free
- cobaltgrc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23dude, ilyag, pay attention. He said he thinks it should be a public service, not free.
- thetrav, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Actually, if you read the whole article, you'd notice that it wasn't Om who wrote the article. It was Katie Fehrenbacher, a contributor to Om's blog.
- Darth_tater, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12i wonder what that "no brainer" is to connect to the wifi...
- Crypty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Man, articles should just be mirrored automatically. This can be pretty ridiculous sometimes.
- CursedMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Thats why we have duggmirror.
- jakatak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I am more interested in what the broadband police (SBC, Verizon, Time Warner,etc.) are going to do once we all leave their greedy, broadband restricting butts. They have been limiting our broadband speeds since day one. I am supposed to get between 1.5 MPS - 3.0 MPS dload speed and I am always throttled at 1.6 MPS.
- WarMace, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11The site is not loading, i think Ted Stevens is stepping on my tubes.
- sbwms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Interesting post. Especially since the Google invitation email includes this request not to talk publicly about it:
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As a Trusted Tester of the brand spankin' new Google WiFi network, we hope that you'll quietly try it out and share your feedback with us (and only us). There are many people who would love to be in your shoes, giving Google WiFi a spin, and may ask you for a review of your experience. We ask that you help us out by not sharing information about the service with anyone until we open it up to everyone (later this summer).
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Don't get me wrong: I think it's a bit silly of Google to ask people not to talk about it. Just noting that Om Malik chose to ignore their request. - barrettg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7From the site (Looks like it is down) ::::
Live from Mountain View – This morning I got an email invitation welcoming me to try out Google’s Mountain View WiFi network as one of the trusted testers. I’m not sure if it was a random invite or not, after writing a bit about Google’s Mountain View plans, but I felt like a lucky golden ticket winner with a trip to the chocolate factory–OK, so I have no life!
So I’m posting this from Rengstorff Park in Mountain View and the connection is pretty good: between 2 and 3 bars out of 4 on my Mac. Works well enough from here. I might drive around a bit and follow the nifty map that Google set up and update this post later. I won’t divulge how to get onto the network, but trust me it’s a no-brainer, even though right now trusted testers can’t see the SSID number.
The connection isn’t secure at the moment because I haven’t downloaded Google’s VPN client, like the email suggests I do so soon. The email says “Simply visit https://wifi.google.com/download.html to download Google Secure Access and use it with Google WiFi. Note that you will only be able to download the Google Secure Access VPN client when associated with the Google WiFi network–the download page will not work from any other Internet connection.” But that link doesn’t seem to be working for now.
The trusted tester email also addresses indoor coverage of the network: “The best way to pull Google WiFi indoors is to get a high power WiFi Modem. These modems work best when placed by a window facing the closest Google WiFi radio and typically have an Ethernet interface where you can connect a home wired/wireless router just as you would connect to a DSL or Cable Modem.”
“The best publicly-available WiFi Modem for our network we have seen so far is the PePLink Surf 200BG. This unit has one of the highest power levels, helping it stay connected to the network. There are several other (cheaper) modems which may work fine in your situation, though power is very important. There are a couple local vendors who have PePLink WiFi modems in stock and can help to answer your questions.”
Well, looks like the network is running well enough for now, but Google’s keeping the trusted tester population small to work out all the bugs. Mountain View residents, you’re almost there! - byxba, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Some of the comments on the blog note that they might not like Google knowing where they go on the internet, but I think it could help to make AdSense work better for us. I'm more annoyed by ads that have nothing do do with what I'm looking at than I am with ads that actually pertain to what I'm doing.
- cr3ative, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Miles per second?
PSSSSSSCHWOOOOOOOM! - Just, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Looks good
so now lets talk speed
we all know what they said they were going to provide, but what is it actually like
speed test http://testmy.net/
for Download speed test click here -> http://www.testmy.net/dl-97
for Upload speed test click here -> http://www.testmy.net/ul-97
lets see some real scores of what google wifi is capable - rocke86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Secure access client, so you are safe from wifi sniffers.
- lo0ol, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Good point. There are some saying that Google could do much more than just simply target better; some were calling it a marriage between online and offline. Sit in a restaurant in town while on Google's network and see a coupon pop up through AdSense inviting you to save on your next meal there, that type of thing. I'm sure it's years away, but it's interesting to contemplate. Whether or not I want that type of advertising is another question altogether, but I'm interested in what Google might do with all of this. It has intriguing implications.
- usherzx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5how can google wifi be any different than regular wifi
whats this about - motang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1LOL...ok the whole county then!
- motang, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Interesting...come on down to Riverside, CA Google.
- MicrowavedH2o, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2wifi.google.com just redirects...
- Michael, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Don't listen to him Google... go a little further to Corona!...unless of course you just want to do Riverside County as a whole, haha.
- yllabianbitpipe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hopefully this means I can cancel broadband subscription soon. I'd rather deal with Google than some anti-net neutrality homeland security spying telecom.
- mediaphile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i wonder if the proposed san francisco google wifi will be the same as this implementation of it. i believe the model they're looking at for sf involves a free level of service and also a premium service, with the free wifi having a reduced speed compared to the premium level. they won the bid from the city, but they still have to negotiate a deal with sf before they can beginning rolling it out.
- newtechfool, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hmmm would have been interesting to see a little more technical details such as up/down speeds etc. Perhaps even some packet sniffs/traces to see how the network used and how the plumbing is.
- eleazar123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Get the greasemonkey script that automatically adds the duggmirror link to the page :) Based on your comment I assume it'd be useful for you
And if I could find the link I'd post it. I'm sure someone else will be kind enough to find it - TheThirdWheel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Why is this getting dug down? It's an informative post that deals directly with the topic. Are we so brainwashed by Google that we would digg him down because he violated some half-assed EULA?
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Getting the SSID "GoogleWiFi" from "The Google WiFi network" isn't exactly rocket science, if they wanted to keep it a secret they should have named it something else.
- gtown, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1For real! I'm excited as the next guy for free city wide WiFi... but the blog post is just fluff. I mean great you connected to google's free WiFi... I connected to my local coffee shop's a few hours ago and now I'm connected at my house.
Not a very informative article... but nice to know they're making steps in the right direction. - kob0724, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1We wants the preciouses! God I want this in my city.
- itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1oops
and no Om, He runs the blog, not the post
tho i wonder if the relation is worth being an element int he investiagation
gee can ya be sued for this? hmm meh they'll just hold their face and shake their heads 'darn kids'
heh - romulasry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That is exactly what we have Tor for: http://tor.eff.org/
- logik00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0a public connection available anywhere?
the guys at google are a bunch of visionaries and i hope they take over the world. - dknighton, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I'd like to see that too, however at this point, in limited beta, I doubt any stats would reflect what normal usage will be once it's available to the public.
- pile0nades, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/4128
- PSPDS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0this is awesome can't wait for it
- prab, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7http://www.duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_first_look_at_Google_WiFI/
- DoubtfulSalmon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3How many is the jigabytes?
- DigitalBrian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Heil Google
- cr3ative, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Dude, Google asked VERY nicely for you not to post that. Don't be an ass.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I've been on this for like a week, the SSID is GoogleWiFi. You login with your normal gmail name/password, which is ostensibly authorized to connect. My downstream is 500kbps, upstream decidedly worse at 25 or so. It doesn't work indoors unless you're square up against one of the access points, which can be spotted throughout Mountain View atop the black light poles- they're white boxes with antennas atop, hard to miss.
My verdict: great because it's free but I'm not ditching my DSL anytime soon. Definately good for hanging out at starbucks though. - compu73rg33k, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3http://www.duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_first_look_at_Google_WiFI/
- calebb, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3We need a mirror already... anyone?
- quokkapox, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9WIth water, electricity, and sewage, the tubes are regulated in a fair way so they don't get clogged up and we (the public customers) don't get screwed. The Internet should be regulated similarly.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1what happend to i440's comment? i was gonna trash him :(
wtf now its at the bottom >:o - i440, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6"i440, the fact that you don't realize that we PAY for both water and electricity shows that you're nothing but an idealistic child without any grasp of how the world works."
I realize perfectly well that both the air we breathe, and the water you drink is taxed. Your point...? - burningjonny, on 10/12/2007, -14/+4@quokkapox
We need to regulate wi-fi as well so that the internet tubes don't get clogged. - TROGDOR42, on 10/12/2007, -22/+12http://www.duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_first_look_at_Google_WiFI/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -31/+18i440, the fact that you don't realize that we PAY for both water and electricity shows that you're nothing but an idealistic child without any grasp of how the world works.
- i440, on 10/12/2007, -40/+23I think that Wi-Fi should be a public service, just like water or electricity.
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