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- ton0485, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22E-mail may die as the main way of telling people things but it is long from dead. E-mail is the perfect way to send a message to someone when they are not on an instant messaging program, and e-mail better for sending large groups of people the same message.
- joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20customer: wherez my order?
sales rep: lol, wtf?
customer: can i have my stuff?
sales rep: bbl, lunch - neocitron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10i still think email is best for sending info to large groups of people at one time....
- brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Yes because everyone knows AIM is the perfect tool for doing business on.
- joel2600, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Please bury this nonsense.
I think you people just dugg the article because of the headline (which is nonsensical on so many levels) - jesusisapervert, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I dugg this article because I am sick of the antique email protocol 1.0. There needs to be a new protocol with support for proper authentication and security, so that spam cannot be sent with spoofed email headers anymore. As it stands, I can simply type anything into the "from:" header field and the email 1.0 standard bluntly accepts it without verification.
I have had a fair share of emails from people asking me to stop spamming them, because spammers have put my email address as the sender.
A few years back I had a talk with a girl who works high up at microsoft's internet tech department, and she completely agreed that we need a new email protocol to have safer communication and less spam. - vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6boss: Hey, hows the project coming along?
:::2 hours later:::
me: Hey! Not bad. Im fine tuning some things.
:::4 hours later:::
boss: I think we might scrap the project after all
:::2 seconds later:::
me: oh. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is the third time "the death of email" doom mongers have managed front page, and this story is a dupe.
- bebop717, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Bury This.
So people are going to stay in contact with IM and myspace?
1) there are a dozen instant messenger services AIM, MSN, yahoo, and a dozen more and everyone is running a different one. Yeah I could use a program to run all of these at the same time, but the other users in the world would dare not stray and use any other program than the one they were brought up on.
2) myspace?
'nuff said. - jbiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Using IM at work is crucial. You don't have to get up to go to someone's desk, leaving your digging uninterrupted.
- cbdgr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3and it will alwas be needed for every website in the world you want to register on providing 3 more pages you have to browse through
- systemghost, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Email will never go away.. and frankly, I feel weird if I don't get my daily dose of spam. I don't know about anyone else but my spam is usually so ridiculous and amusing that I'd miss that esoteric blob of hilarity that makes up a small portion of my life. It's like a retarded friend who says weird ***** all the time, it never really gets old for me.
You can make a game out of trying to identify famous literary quotes that make up the bulk of the mail that gets past your spam filters. That's fun. - Crypty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Death of e-mail? Not even close.
Nearly everyone has an e-mail service. Nowhere near everyone has an instant messenger.
E-mail works no matter what your service is, instant messengers don't, and there is a huge separation between AIM, MSN and Yahoo(cringe) users.
E-mail waits for you, where as you wait for IMs. - WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I might have agreed with this, but then I got a gmail account, and i've emailed more than ever. Gmail ***** rocks.
- mkultra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I think the writer is correct in one sense in that people are tired of "sifting" through the spam. But really e-mail isn't going the way of the dinosaur anytime soon. I probably send 10-20 emails a day both at work and home as well as 3-4 text messages a day.
Really a better article would've been about what needs to be done to combat the spam problem and how mail systems will have to fundamentally change the way they accept mail.
There will be another evolution soon as there always is. Call it Email 2.0...lol. And I agree with WarpFox...Gmail does rock! - Matt2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2> "from:" header field and the email 1.0 standard bluntly accepts it without verification.
This isn't as simple as it sounds. E-mail servers receive traffic from unknown and assorted users. SMTP servers have no good way to discriminate between a connection originating from a client endpoint and server-to-server communication. If your ISP's mail server gets a e-mail from bob@xyz.com, how is it going to know whether Bob really sent this? Did this e-mail come from XYZ.com's authoritative mail server, a backup server, a legitimate web script, or is it false?
So we have to secure it at the originating endpoint as best as possible by disallowing open relaying (which all good sysadmins do or get blacklisted), and blocking direct connections from known residential IPs at the receiving end (which is much harder to do). Neither is perfect since I'd guess that most spam comes from zombied PCs these days anyway.
Yes there is lots of room for improvement. SPF is a step in the right direction but is largely unenforcable and dangerous to rely upon outright. Moving to a whitelist service, or centralized authorized mail server registries might help, but that's a big mountain to move. - LineFly162, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3All this article did was to subconsciously force myself to check my e-mail.
- glucoseboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Poorly written article: The initial premise is that more and more people are using the Internet more and more for daily activities and shunning email in favor of other communications forms, like IM.
Then, in the middle the author talks about spam and quotes studies saying some percentage of people are using the Internet less for fear of spam.
Well, which is it? Is it more Internet usage or less?
(and who are these peoples who ask these questions and how come they never ask me?) - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't really believe it, I mean I can maybe see email going away on the net, but on a intranet for a company or something I can't seem them replacing it with anything. Sure theres a ton of emails from person to person in my company every day, but so far it's the best delievery system out there. I don't think IM would be very usefull, as most of the people in my work would just use it for long distance water cooler chats.
- jambarama, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Email has taken the place of the memo. Where you need a copy to go back to if you need to. There has been no good replacement offered yet - IM isn't the same nor is anything else I've encountered.
The point of this article is that spam will drown out legitamite uses. I rarely get spam in my inbox (gmail) and the spam box only gets about 2-3 messages a day. If you have a decent filter, it is not that big of a problem.
Rather than spam killing email, I suspect filters will get better, other companies (like bluesecurity) will take initiative to fight back, and government regulations will kick in. We aren't just going to let spammers have this one. - Kailash.Nadh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Lame lame article, totally rubbish.
- Matt2k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2> I rarely get spam in my inbox (gmail) and the spam box only gets about 2-3 messages a day. If you have a decent filter, it is not that big of a problem.
You're lucky. And unique. Across my five or six business e-mails (various companies), I get close to 1500 spam messages a day. About 250 a day make it through my filters. Mostly that new god damned image spam promoting some new stock ticker. I've killed e-mails from clients before because their subject lines looked spammish and I was trying to clear out a backlog. Spam is killing e-mail and wasting hours of my time a week. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You might want it if you'd like to try and contact someone who only has an email address on their site. if anything, i make less phone calls because of IM/txt, not less email
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Nobody I work with uses email ... oops I mean aim/icq/ym/msn.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can even say it's the death of Post-Its
- SrLnclt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Email has its problems. But there is no way it is going anywhere. Every business/office environment uses email internally and with clients, sales reps, etc. And if you decided to stop using it you would loose many clients, or at least have information flow very limited.
Very few businesses use IM. Many business emails get copied to tons of people - not so easy to do with IM. And if you need an instant answer from some in the office you can get up and walk 30 feet across the office or pick up the phone and dial their extension. - vprice509, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Email will die on the same day that Microsoft produces an iPod killer. Coincidentally, it shall be quite a chilly one in hell on the very same day! See also: Bacon Avionics.
- leopardhunter, on 02/18/2009, -0/+1The death of e-mail. FILM AT 11!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Email is long long from dead - I for one hate annoying IM pop-ups when I'm working.
- misterspaceman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think SMTP (not email) is dead or dying.
It's an antiquated protocol, and I think it's time to create a new one.
Someone mentioned that the biggest problem with email is there's no reliable way to authenticate a sender...how do you tell that a message that says it was sent by sam@xyz.com actually came from Sam?
Personally, I'd love to see the protocol completely rewritten to a trust-based system. I think the responsibility for authenticating Sam should shift to his ISP (xyz.com). Furthermore, I don't think xyz.com should forward Sam's message to mydomain.com; it should just send a "token" (notification that I have a message waiting for me on xyz.com).
Then I can personally decide whether I trust xyz.com before downloading the email.
- If I know that Sam OWNS xyz.com, then I can tell my email server to always download emails from it and deliver them to my inbox.
- If I know that xyz.com is a free email service (like yahoo) that spammers sometimes use to forward emails, then I can tell it to only download emails from Sam and ignore/ask me before downloading other ones.
- If I know that xyz.com is owned by spammers, then I can tell it to just ignore (never download) emails from that server.
Spammers will eventually find a way around this, I'm sure. But I think this would solve two of the biggest problems with SMTP 1.0. - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah I dont use e-mail that much anymore. I mainly use Xfire because all my friends are uber-geeks and always are online. Even if they arent at there computer I just send em a message for when they come back. But I dont think e-mail will die, I still use it everyonce in a while. Mainly to send files actualy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Um, when aren't we going to just let spammers have this one? Spam is a growing industry. The tides haven't even begun to turn.
- moeq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If anything, email is growing. Portable devices that let you do your e-mail wirelessly are freeing people from their desktops.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0at least there's litepost...
- scratt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2What a silly article...
I have not even read it.. The title was enough!
It's like 'Cinema is dead!', or 'The Mail service is dead!', or 'Marmite causes cancer!'. Jesus! - haackers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Blogs, online chatting, and instant messaging are taking over because every where people go there is Internet connection. This allows the user to interact on the fly, like talking on the phone with someone, but online. Email is very insecure and there is so much span that people are getting upset with email in general.
- yaozornation, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I agree. One reason email is not going away anytime soon is Gmail.
- inactive, on 12/26/2008, -5/+3LMAO :D
- vbsurfer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1yeah...these days, we all question why are emails are getting filled with a canned meat made by hormel and our friends arn't answering their emails like they used to.
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