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- stlb1090, on 12/06/2007, -3/+183I'm still supporting DVD +R in that format war. Any day now we will come out on top! See you in hell DVD -R
- Supernova36, on 12/06/2007, -11/+157Good article, but I'm not sure HD DVD is quite the small guy underdog the author wants it to be.
- ExSlashdotter, on 12/06/2007, -9/+101$99 HD-DVD player + Netflix subscription = enjoying HD movies without a heavy 'investment' in either camp
- muncle, on 12/06/2007, -6/+96The winning format will be when a movie's HD version outsells the SD version, until then... /yawn.
- brianbennett, on 12/06/2007, -34/+100My money is on history... my money is far away from Sony.
- kellington, on 12/06/2007, -33/+98Best article comparing formats without BR marketing hype. The most important feature is both HD and regular DVD on the same disk. Can play in high-def and on the various other players we all have.
- schizogony, on 12/06/2007, -5/+62Laserdisc ftw
- GothAlice, on 12/06/2007, -14/+55DVD+Extra (e.g. DVD+HD-DVD) breaks the DVD standard completely, both in the thickness of the disk, and the distance from read head to the layer of plastic which stores data by refracting light. This makes it harder for DVD players created before HD-DVD became public to play even the DVD portion of the disc. Not useful. In fact, I've seen many an article about video distribution companies (like Universal, though I do not know if they were one of the ones to jump ship) dropping mixed DVD+HD-DVD for this and a variety of other reasons. It's a gimmick, and that's all. If I want content in high-definition, I want all of the content in high-definition.
- Microdot, on 12/06/2007, -17/+57"And how will the format's backers stay competitive in the next year in the face of cheaper and more plentiful Blu-ray players?"
easy. microsoft cuts another 100 million dollar check to another studio, and we start all over again. - ExSlashdotter, on 12/06/2007, -33/+68Whatever. If one or the other is going to win, I'd just as soon pick HD-DVD.
Sony and their proprietary formats can blow me. - inactive, on 12/06/2007, -15/+49Yeah, who can forget what a failure the Compact Disc was.
- missingnoh4x, on 12/06/2007, -5/+39Wow, a HD-DVD article without one mention of 09 F9...
- SWiG, on 12/06/2007, -9/+40Call me when the format war is over. By then I should be able to get a great player at a great price.
- hipnerd, on 12/06/2007, -1/+30It's almost as if it were intentional.
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -14/+43Almost half the PS3 owners polled didn't even know it supported Blu-Ray. And half of the ones that do know, never use use it.
- postalblowfish7, on 12/06/2007, -6/+33uhg, i wish the format war would just ***** end already. i'd love to upgrade my movie collection, but even as a ps3 owner i'm not willing to invest in a format that MIGHT go the way of beta, MD, memory stick, etc...
neither side can win with this much consumer uncertainty. - hipnerd, on 12/06/2007, -4/+30I agree that it's a gimmick.
The multi-format discs just cost more. If I have a plain DVD player, I can buy a new release at Target for $16.99, I don't want to pay and extra $10-$20 for a HD version I can't use.
And if I have an HD-DVD player (I do), I don't want to pay the extra $5-$10 it seems to cost to put the SD DVD version in there. I bought an HD-DVD because I want HD content. I have no use for the regular DVD portion and it drives the cost up. - gregdigg, on 12/06/2007, -5/+29What will they think of next? A CD with a cassette tape glued to the other side?
- kyleforeman, on 12/06/2007, -2/+25Love the graphic comparison using the trains.
- Radar3D, on 12/06/2007, -6/+29A mediocre selling DVD still outsold both formats combined.
- Serapthi, on 12/06/2007, -10/+32Why does everyone keep on calling Blu-ray a Sony format? Yes it is backed by Sony but it's also backed Apple, Inc.
Dell, HP, Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi Electric, Panasonic, Pioneer, Phillips, Samsung, Sharp, Sun Microsystems, TDK, Thomson, Twentieth Century Fox, Walt Disney and Warner Bros. - Waskonator, on 12/06/2007, -14/+35Yet another stupid war....
- Skitals, on 12/06/2007, -3/+23Why are people digging you up? The Onkyo player JUST came out. People just love making ***** up.
- ExSlashdotter, on 12/06/2007, -1/+18Yeah, thats the point he was making. Just because you own a PSP doesnt mean you start buying UMD movie discs from now on.
- xTRUMANx, on 12/06/2007, -8/+24Wow, I haven't realized gizmodo was so biased. Read The State of Blu-ray (link in article) after reading this article and you'll know what I mean. HD-DVD is painted as Little Mac in its article while Blu-Ray drawbacks are all they seem to talk about in its article. I guess that's why gizmodo decided to seperate the two articles instead of having one comparison article. Their preferred format would have been easily recognized and people wouldn't see the article as fair comparison.
- Sornos, on 12/06/2007, -6/+21Why? Because you like it better when Sony does it?
- brianbennett, on 12/06/2007, -0/+15That's not really an issue if you have Netflix. If your Blu-Ray player is a PS3 there's dual-purpose. A $200 HD-DVD player is a small gamble. Worst case senario: you have a powerful game console and one of the best upscaling DVD players on the market.
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -9/+24FTA: "Every player meets certain standards, and while there's no requirement for 1080p video like in Blu-ray, there is a consistent requirement of internet connectivity, dual-tuner playback and local storage, which disc makers are now using for fun—and useful—interactivity."
1080p is the only thing in that list that actually improves a movie, though. - krische, on 12/06/2007, -5/+20"Blu-ray Disc was started by Hitachi, LG, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, and Thomson in February 19, 2002."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Associat ...
OMG! Sony is in that list! Clearly they are the only ones that made Blu-Ray! EVIL EVIL SONY!! - bigbadgoat, on 12/06/2007, -4/+18I know!
Except Beta is still used in the broadcast industry..
and... well... they also created the CD. How did that turn out? - slstudios, on 12/06/2007, -2/+16hey, I still have my Sony home DAT deck. I just can't find the media anymore. It's mostly a conversation piece for when I have guests and visiting dignitaries.
- peestandingup, on 12/06/2007, -9/+22Great. Now tell us how all the other Sony formats did.
- slstudios, on 12/06/2007, -17/+30If Sony's BR format wins out, we as consumers can prepare to get the hard shaft because that will be the last nail in their plan to monopolize the hardware, software, and studio trifecta. You can guarantee the format will remain expensive with little value improvements. Having worked for Sony, I know first hand what kind of DRM nazis they aspire to be. (Google 2005 Sony BMG Rootkit scandal.) Hopefully BR will go the way of all their past failed formats.
- catalysis, on 12/06/2007, -2/+14digital audio tape and compact disk?
- krische, on 12/06/2007, -2/+14Almost 100% of posts with no source I don't believe.
- inactive, on 12/06/2007, -2/+14http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Associat ...
This time, it's pretty much Microsoft and Toshiba vs. everyone else. - fuzzynyanko, on 12/06/2007, -1/+13Yeah, some people say it was porn, the others say it was the 2-hour length. I wonder if 2-hour porn was the key...
- santasing, on 12/06/2007, -1/+13Backwards compatibility. So you mean to say a BR player does not play DVD's? Mine does, but then again, I did spary it with magic pixie dust.
- IndigoMoss, on 12/06/2007, -4/+16What about price? That's my biggest factor since I'm a student.
- kazamx, on 12/06/2007, -0/+11If you were running Linux on the PS3, it might be possible then?
- guyzero, on 12/06/2007, -1/+12ya! like the CD and the DAT, both huge failures
- Lynxpro, on 12/06/2007, -2/+13And who is Disney's largest shareholder? Steve Jobs. He certainly ain't going to help Microsoft out. Just look at the iPod...it still doesn't like WMA playback and probably never will.
- jostheller, on 12/06/2007, -10/+21I am probably alone on this island, but there are two things that matter to me for the replacement of DVD. 1. High Def 1080p. Both can do this, draw. 2. Disc size. When I am backing up my mp3's or movies, the more space the better. - winner BD.
I do not care about any extra features. Even on DVD's the only extra content I was mildly interested in was alternate endings. It takes a pretty fantastic movie for me to want extra content (Lord of the Rings or godfather trilogies) and those type of movies don't come along that often. - krische, on 12/06/2007, -0/+11I agree, they really portrayed HD-DVD as the nice little underdog that everybody should root for. Then they talk about Blu-Ray as this huge bitch fight amongst faceless companies.
- xcheats, on 12/06/2007, -4/+14Not really a gimmick. It's been done before. At the beginning of 16:9 and HD, many regular DVDs had dual sides, one side for 16:9 and one size for "Full Screen" 4:3. It's been done before and yes old players will play the DVD / HD-DVDs just fine in most cases.
- sexybobo, on 12/06/2007, -1/+11Exactly it is not like microsoft hasn't thrown billions of dollars at something so it will succeed before why do they not think they will again?
- akilleen, on 12/06/2007, -4/+14I doubt the DRM nazis at Microsoft are gong to be any better. I think either way we get the shaft.
- charityjustice, on 12/06/2007, -5/+15drn666 has never posted a factually accurate accounting of the format war, because he is exceedingly biased towards Blu-Ray and always has been. No idea why - but read through his 'postings'... anything about Blu-Ray is spun positively (even bad news), anything about HD-DVD is spun negatively (even when it's great news). Buried as inaccurate.
- modix, on 12/06/2007, -1/+11Netflix rents BD for no extra charge. That's how I'm getting HD without having to worry about format wars.
- krische, on 12/06/2007, -1/+10No by only focusing on the positives of one format, and the negatives of the other format, it's biased.
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