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- meson2k, on 04/11/2009, -13/+276I'm probably one of the few in minority who've turned off the diggbar feature on their digg account.
+ve : I can see it's utility for twitter posts etc.
-ve: But when I click on a link from digg.com itself, I don't want digg following me. Respect the content publisher. - Lapper, on 04/11/2009, -1/+134Actually, from what I've seen in the comments of stories about the DiggBar, you're in the vast majority. I haven't seen many comments at all about people liking it, though I do.
- HallenbeckJoe, on 04/11/2009, -12/+126Dickbar.
- MtheoryX, on 04/11/2009, -6/+112I turned it off on Day 1.
Digg, do what you're good at, and stay the ***** away from everything else. You're like Midas... except everything you touch turns into a cleveland steamer. - Grazzit, on 04/11/2009, -0/+103I can't honestly believe you think your opinion is a minority opinion. I haven't seen any mention of diggbar that hasn't been 80% negative
- tortfeasor2009, on 04/11/2009, -4/+103Diggers - here is the story with over 2000 Diggs yesterday and today that has been kept off the front page of Digg - in other words censored: http://digg.com/tech_news/How_to_block_the_DiggBar ...
Isn't the best point of Digg is that it is self-editorializing? We really don't need Digg mods burying stories when the function is built right in to the page.
Opt in only, please. - gemlarin, on 04/11/2009, -6/+96I hate it for several reasons.
1. Disrespectful to publishers.
2. Restricts my viewing area, I dont need more toolbars (webdev, and bookmarks is plenty).
3. I hate posting tiny URLs and I hate when people post them, call me crazy but I like to know where I am going before I click a link.
4. I dont need digg following me around when I click a link.
5. it "uglies" up the page I am viewing.
I am actually at the point where I am thinking about going to reddit over this stupid bar. Everytime I turn it off, it comes back. - mckirkus, on 04/11/2009, -6/+75This was the most predictable, horrible, idea in the history of Digg. I started a Digg like site for local news and the investors kept pushing for the same thing but I refused. Meson2k nailed it "Respect the content publisher."
It's not like Digg is some super advanced technology. Hell, even Reddit went open source. The only asset they have is happy users. Don't piss 'em off because you want to coat the intertubes with your yellow paint. - niradg, on 04/11/2009, -2/+59RIP Diggbar, April 2009 - April 2009. Major sites like the NYT have already banned it. Considering that most of the frontpage content on Digg comes from a small number of major websites, I suspect they will all have banned it shortly.
- 06metzp, on 04/11/2009, -8/+64I never really knew why the DiggBar bugged me so much before (other than a general "I found it annoying?") - this article gave me some insight into my own mind.
CREEPY.
Anyway, after having thought about it, I would enjoy DiggBar's functionality a lot more if it were just a regular old toolbar... as long as I could minimize/shrink/hide it easily when I wanted it out of the way.
THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE, O WISE INTERNET. - ShuttleXpC, on 04/11/2009, -3/+59Diggbar does suck.
- clickwir, on 04/11/2009, -3/+55I don't like it.
Maybe as an opt-in function, some people might like it. But I don't nor do I think it should be turned on by default.
I clear cookies and have to deal with this bad idea regularly. It should be an opt-in feature, if it is to exist at all. - benologist, on 04/11/2009, -1/+42I've turned it off. By itself it doesn't bother me, but it ***** the ***** out of me when you click a link and remain in the stupid frame.
The whole thing's just a trick to inflate their pageviews. It doesn't really add any value in my opinion. - captaindigger, on 04/11/2009, -9/+49DiggBar is a steaming cow patty. It keeps showing up, and every time I see it, it seems to smell worse. I have no choice but to step in it every time I visit a site from Digg.
- deadbaby, on 04/11/2009, -4/+43Digg must be in huge trouble if they would do something this desperate and stupid. We'll probably see spyware and pop-unders soon.
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -3/+41I turned it off on the first day. It made pages load slowly, even if they weren't on front page yet.
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -2/+36How about the change that removes it unless you opt-in?
- inkswamp, on 04/11/2009, -4/+38My one word review of the new Diggbar feature:
Sucks. - Astark, on 04/11/2009, -4/+37Diggbar sucks ass! It's a bigger loser than the Lakers were against the Blazers last night.
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -10/+382019 digg. No front page. What the admins don't want you to see: http://digg.com/tech_news/How_to_block_the_DiggBar ...
Comment. Censored "by other users" (aka admins): http://imgur.com/1VW0Q.png
Fame and fortune. That's all kevin rose wants. To sit on his cash and magazine covers. All legitimate criticism will be crushed. By kevin teabag rose. - inactive, on 04/11/2009, -2/+29But you're not allowed to talk about censorship... or else you'll get censored yourself! http://imgur.com/1VW0Q.png
- kevinrose, on 04/11/2009, -16/+41The reason this is so difficult from a product standpoint is that we are getting mixed feedback, there are diggers that love it and some that don't. Help us out, reply to this message w/feature suggestions/constructive feedback. Default options, opt-in, new features to make it more useful, other ideas?? We're still gathering feedback from everyone and will make changes based on that. This site works because of all of you, thanks all.
- estacado, on 04/11/2009, -1/+26Wow. I'd never thought I'd see the day when a Kevin Rose comment on Digg has a negative number.
- RoboJesus, on 04/11/2009, -3/+28Definitely make it opt-in only. I'm logged in about half the time, and when I'm not I'm cursed by the DiggBar.
Add features that aren't already available on Digg. There's no point to have an obtrusive frame bar at the top if it does NOTHING that you can't do on the main page. We have a web browser to navigate webpages. We don't need a box inside a browser to do the same thing.
Show the original URL somewhere.
Put a simple "Disable" button right on it, rather than just the "close" button. I still haven't gotten around to disabling it on my home computer.
What sort of features would actually be useful? None that I can think of. Maybe the Stumble feature is good, but there's already a pretty good website for that. Digg is good at what it does, don't water it down with useless plug-ins and half-assed features. - ohplease, on 04/11/2009, -3/+27
I've had to turn it off 5 times now. It won't stay off, I can't easily copy/paste the article link, and you combine this with last week's State of Play constant audio blast and you come to the inescapable conclusion that Kevin Rose hates regular Digg users. - inkswamp, on 04/11/2009, -0/+24It also has rendering issues on Safari. When you scroll up, the bottom of the frame leaves trace horizontal lines on the page you're viewing. Very freakin' annoying.
- gemlarin, on 04/11/2009, -4/+28kevin
If you cared about feedback, you would have polled the users before you actually implemented the bar. - inactive, on 04/11/2009, -0/+24Not just page views, but also name recognition. I can't even count how many links my friends have been spreading around on facebook, twitter, and IM that have the damn digg bar. It's as if digg put a watermark on the entire internet :|
Exaggeration, but you get my point. - inkswamp, on 04/11/2009, -1/+24"I love having the sites I'm viewing framed by a referring page! It's so convenient."
--Internet user, circa 1997. - DeadlyAlpaca, on 04/11/2009, -1/+21Opt-in is a must. I've turned it off on my personal computer and that's fine, but every time I use someone else's computer it infuriates me. It makes me nervous browsing the Upcoming section because I fundamentally refuse to click on links that I don't know where they're taking me.
And if it IS stealing credit from other sites, that is obviously the first thing that needs to be fixed. - Aixxt, on 04/11/2009, -2/+21Digg jumped the shark with the DiggBar. It all downhill from here
- mogebier, on 04/11/2009, -1/+20I turned the damn thing off.
- AngelaQ, on 04/11/2009, -0/+19I turned it off as soon as I figured out how. I had to turn it off several times to keep it that way.
- mizike, on 04/11/2009, -1/+201. Most people were sick of framebars by the late 90's; putting it on by default is just frustrating people, make it opt-in only so those who want to use it can.
2. While short url's do have uses, the actual, full length, url has many more uses. Show the real url and put a button on the diggbar to generate a short url when the need arises.
3. You need to give non-registered / non-logged in users a global option to turn it on or off; set a cookie or something which remembers the preference.
That's about it. The diggbar by itself isn't a bad idea, but the implementation was over the top. A floating framebar which hijacks the url and is difficult to turn off was way too heavy handed of a first step in the development process. - mytealjacket, on 04/11/2009, -1/+19Down with the diggbar! Is this what they're spending their time working on? How about fixing the duplicate submission issue first!
- coldkill3r, on 04/11/2009, -0/+18Go into the viewing settings in your profile.
- JohnnyKdiggs, on 04/11/2009, -1/+18Like most people, I turned the DiggBar off on day 1. Unfortunately, that doesn't help me when I'm on a remote computer and not logged in...
I think it's pretty blatantly obvious that people do not like the DiggBar. Granted, the URL shortener (and the ability to create one by adding digg/ in front of any website) is pretty cool. But putting a frame around every single story on Digg was a horrible, horrible decision.
Please Digg, fix this mess. - ashrafneo, on 04/11/2009, -0/+16One suggestion, keep the sites favicon when you load the page from digg.
- rolf, on 04/11/2009, -4/+20How do I turn this PoS off?
- kinseyincanada, on 04/11/2009, -3/+19hahah why is he being buried, hes thanking everyone for the feedback and saying there going to change it.
- yourmartdotnet, on 04/11/2009, -15/+30Am I the only one who thinks this is a rip off the stumble upon bar. If I wanted a bar like this I'd stay on stumble.
- addicted68098, on 04/11/2009, -2/+17Make it a plugin for firefox. Instead of the lame plugin they have now.
- nikhiljn, on 04/11/2009, -6/+21Great article Danny!
Didn't really think digg would need to rob link juice from content publishers - while the bigger & more geeky publishers will know to place code in their pages to break frames, the smaller & real viral stories will probably get hit. Such a shame! - RoboJesus, on 04/11/2009, -4/+19Right, but we shouldn't have to, and it shouldn't show up if we aren't logged in.
- inactive, on 04/11/2009, -1/+16The advantage of those sites is that it TAKES YOU TO THE PAGE... not some stupid digg frame.
- 1160Smith, on 04/11/2009, -1/+16Just have the bar turned off by default, and those that want to turn it on can do so. Kind of like what Google does with a lot of their G-mail features.
I'm not really a big fan of tiny URL's either, because when people send them you do not know what website you could be going. - KumaraChips, on 04/11/2009, -1/+16Kill the DickBar
Also, why has this popular link dropped off the top in all topics?
http://digg.com/tech_news/Sites_can_block_the_Digg ... - inactive, on 04/11/2009, -0/+14Digg is a business. Criticism of new features is counterproductive to getting the site more popular. In that way, I can understand why they would try censoring criticism. What bothers me is that they market this site as being "power of the crowds," where "everyone has a voice and a choice." Admin censorship goes directly against the fundamental idea of the site. In that respect, people should take an interest in defending their freedom of speech and opinion. I've said it before, and I'll say it again... you'd think the admins would have learned a thing or two about censorship after 09-F9.
"didn't Kevin Rose end up posting it himself to end the revolt?" essentially. "Was his account suspended?" of course not... why would he suspend himself from his own site? :P - juhache, on 04/11/2009, -0/+14This shouldn't be funny..
But yet.. - RoboRay, on 04/11/2009, -1/+15I played with it for a few minutes, then turned it off forever. Framing was bad 10 years ago, and it's still bad now.
And don't even get me started on how much damage URL shorteners can do.
If Digg wants an easy way to let users digg pages without having to add a custom toolbar, they should look into something like Amazon's "Add to Wish List" button. If you aren't familiar with that, it's a simple javascript function you can add as a button on your Links toolbar that lets you add any item for sale on any website to your Amazon Wishlist: http://www.amazon.com/wishlist/get-button -
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