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  • jquipp, on 01/23/2008, -1/+94What ... I didn't get the memo?
    • bamafun, on 01/23/2008, -2/+40hey J! If you'd gotten here on time this morning you would have heard the site wide announcement over the loud digg speaker at 6am ........
      • badwithcomputer, on 01/23/2008, -1/+23eastern or pacific? ...because i'm usually around for both
      • Cambo, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1didnt you see the new cover sheet on the TPS report
    • FredSpeaking, on 01/23/2008, -16/+4Why would you need to be informed? You're just the consumer.
      < /sarc >
    • Ataxia2008, on 01/23/2008, -24/+1I'll go ahead and make sure you get another copy of that memo Mmmm, Ok?

      Ha! It's against the rules on Digg to bury a comment with an Office Space quote!
    • DoodleMaster, on 01/23/2008, -0/+7Forbidden
      You don't have permission to access /digg-algorithm-change/ on this server.

      Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

      I think it's a very fitting error.
    • jordn, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4the algorithm code was leaked hours after it was released:

      http://tinyurl.com/2f4st5
      • tingrin87, on 01/23/2008, -0/+4i believe you've confused the digg algorithm with the reddit algorithm
    • LegalSatire, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2Diggs to the first person who can say what the upshot of all this is.
  • oboy, on 01/23/2008, -11/+101"You attention please. There is a glitch in the Matrix. Please do not be alarmed. Follow the men in the suits and dark glasses and everything will be fine."
    • Shakermaker, on 01/23/2008, -2/+12Your
    • Dokument, on 01/23/2008, -9/+2"oh ***** now my screen is just scrolling green text. Oh trippy its like i can see the entire world all through these odd green scrolling characters. damn i should probably go outside or something. But this tripple monitor, hovering keyboard setup i have is just to awesome for porn, i think ill stay."
  • derrickgossman, on 01/23/2008, -9/+49I couldn't care much less.
    • skankyBacon, on 01/23/2008, -3/+14Agreed. Why anyone thinks it's such a huge deal to have submitted a front page story is beyond me.
      • arjie, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Ah, but that is what you don't understand. The new digg algorithm simply puts all stories about the digg algorithm on the front page. This is a demonstration.
  • craftyguy, on 01/23/2008, -6/+224new algorithm:
    if (user.bribe){ promote(user.story) }
    • martalli, on 01/23/2008, -1/+35Then I won't digg this story until you go get me a Mountain Dew.
    • fkr3, on 01/23/2008, -11/+3if(pownce).....
    • Brad324, on 01/23/2008, -1/+32if not article.MurdochApproved { delete(article); ban(submitter) }
    • Ataxia2008, on 01/23/2008, -0/+39if username = MrbabyMan...
      ***** it, you get the idea...
    • ymerej, on 01/23/2008, -0/+25Ah, the GameSpot algorithm. Good choice, good choice.
      • dsmx, on 01/23/2008, -0/+5That's not fair it's "advertising" not bribing.
  • vroom101, on 01/23/2008, -9/+18I'm going to wait for a few or many official words from Mr. Kevin Rose.
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -0/+12You can wait, but it's obvious there's been a significant change.
  • Error601, on 01/23/2008, -0/+36How about "all users are the same after they've been on long enough to know they're not automated"
  • notque, on 01/23/2008, -5/+44I've noticed suddenly stories I submit take over 150 diggs in 24 hours. It used to be around 60-80. I've had multiple stories with a huge number of diggs that won't go, while I've seen articles with 20 diggs hit the frontpage. It's nuts.
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -6/+13http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Spin_Documentary ...

      156 in 24, no front page. In hot in all topics, but nothing.
      • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -4/+6Excellent. Thank you Digg.
      • oldhick, on 01/23/2008, -1/+6Finally!
        • notque, on 01/23/2008, -2/+3It just went. What the hell?!
          • fac3less, on 01/23/2008, -1/+5Given the amount of users on the site increasing -- wouldn't (or shouldn't they) increase the algorithm to take that into account? I see no problem in requiring a few more diggs to get things to the frontpage :)
          • gbarberi, on 01/24/2008, -0/+5Fac3less, It's not the amount of users coming into the site that should determine the algorithm; it's the proportion of them that are digging and taking care of the queue. That's where the number of votes should count.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -17/+5Because the diggs you are getting are *****. Clearly from accounts made just to digg up the same *****. They don't count. Don't you get it..thje algorithm is set up to get RID of people like you becuase you are not adding value to the site. They WANT you to leave. Everyone does. Yet you don't.
      • RUFuKinCrazy, on 01/23/2008, -2/+9I want you to leave.
      • gbarberi, on 01/23/2008, -3/+11What we need is an algorithm to get rid of people like you. More comments than diggs and full of hate.
        • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -9/+4So say a kucinich fan. No wonder you hate the algortihm.

          Also...you've dugg over 100 stories a day. I realizeww you have absolutely no life, but there is no way to read all those articles and determined them to be digg worthy. You are obviouslky one of the very people Digg hates. PEople who blndly digg crap.
          • gbarberi, on 01/23/2008, -2/+6Actually, I do. Both have a life and review what I digg.
            Judging by your typos, you're either mildly retarded or so brimming with anger and hate, your hands are shaking over the keyboard.
          • Brad324, on 01/24/2008, -0/+4lmao, just look at your comment history - and you're telling other people they have no life?
      • smacksaw, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2Any bingobongoxyz account has nothing to say about spamming and fakes.
  • cafefort, on 01/23/2008, -27/+10Digg is snob. period. I'm using it, yes, but boy! how snob it is ! :)
    • wattznext, on 01/23/2008, -4/+27Snob is a noun buddy, not an adjective
      • Narcism, on 01/23/2008, -18/+4You do know that people CAN live in different countries than you and have different expressions right?
      • kidcodea, on 01/23/2008, -5/+4dont be such a SNOB
      • Gonz037, on 01/23/2008, -2/+4Good job on proving his point
      • cafefort, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3Thank you! English is my 4th language and I'm still learning. Too sad people are so harsh sometimes. They don't judge the content but the appearances.
        • MadOtaku, on 01/24/2008, -1/+3Well, you're doing fine then. There are so many native English speakers that write horribly that we tend to be intolerant of improper English. Unfortunately, this sometimes leads to us scolding people who are doing really good at learning a foreign language.

          The word you were looking for is "snobbish" which is the adjective form of snob.
  • WordsnCollision, on 01/23/2008, -3/+21Why ISN'T there an announcement from Digg admin? Is there even an Announcements link where such info can be posted? There should be - at least there would be if admin cared about its members. Hello??
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -16/+8They don't want us to know, because then we could game around it. The problem is, when you don't tell any of us, long time users suddenly don't know what to do when stories get 150-200 diggs and no front page. Do I suddenly need the entire digg userbase to digg a story in 24 hours to get it on front page? A general idea would help.
      • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -5/+20How about just submitting good stories and letting the users and the system decide, instead of trying to figure out how to game it?
        • notque, on 01/23/2008, -10/+8I'm not interested in how to game it. I'm interested in the disparity. The content I submit is not mainstream. So if views that are not mainstream are being worked out of the system, I'm fine with that. I just want to know. I'll go to mixx and be done with Digg.
          • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -0/+9Ok, now that's fair enough.
          • unicronband, on 01/23/2008, -7/+10Good. Apparently it's not so broken that 27% of your stories hit the front page, something I'm sure a large majority of diggers can't claim. So why don't you either stop bitching or head on over to mixx and don't let Digg's algorithm hit you in the ass on the way out.
          • EditorResponse, on 01/24/2008, -4/+3notque, I don't know if you are going to come back to read responses to this post but you are complaining about nothing. 47 stories that you have submit out of 173 have become popular...I think you should lay off the sauce. Digg is very good to you because you post primarily socialist, marxist materials. It all has to do with readership and who is at Digg. You have tons of support compared to a person whop posts conservative material.

            What are you complaining about?
          • notque, on 01/24/2008, -0/+2@editorresponse

            I don't submit marxist material, but I'm not worried about myself submitting and getting things up. If I never get another submission up fine, as long as others who submit the content can. I am concerned with the content, because unlike others MY favorite stuff isn't in the MSM. So this is one of the few outlets people can hear it.
          • EditorResponse, on 01/24/2008, -1/+1Thanks for friending me. I am not doing any shouts at the moment...I study too many hours a day at the moment and don't want to get too tied up. I also will not be digging up stories that bash my country.

            I have to tell you support for Chevez and many Central American leaders as you have is posting Marxist and antiAmerican material. There is no way around it. It doesn't bother me. I am a complete 180 degrees from you politically on most issues....but at least know what you post.
        • jspegele, on 01/23/2008, -1/+9I don't think he's trying to game Digg, I think he just wants to know when to blow his load because he got another story to the front page and Kevin Rose might have seen his user profile.

          Seriousely, it's not a tragedy if Digg gives users who don't friend every user they've ever seen a chance to have a story go popular.
        • smacksaw, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Mmm...good stories? Like the stuff I can get off of any "Oddly enough" RSS feed or anything else that's popular? Redundant.

          Digg is getting big and I think the amount of articles may start to overwhelm. If it's redundant it will force a change in how things are selected. Digg still walks that fine line between being so mainstream it's pointless and so obscure that no one will even bother making comments.

          The trick is to get people who have a MSM-mentality to look at non-MSM information. That's where you find the new/interesting stuff and it's what notque is trying to pimp. It doesn't matter what the content is as long as the content has a chance to be seen. So I generally Digg his stuff up.
    • estacado, on 01/23/2008, -2/+19They change algorithm all the time. It's not that big of a deal.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -4/+6Th site should actually NOT tell the users when the alogrithm has been changed. For a good reason. It is changed to make the system better, and also harder to manipulate. Telling people that it has been changed gives the spammers a chance to try to reverse engineer it right away to manipulate it again.
  • nico623, on 01/23/2008, -2/+63Ah! Yeah. It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right!
  • notque, on 01/23/2008, -14/+60It seems a bit more sanitized. CBS News has started putting digg links from digg candidates (U.S. Elections) on their website, and I'm sure they pay digg. U.S. Elections has seemed more tightly controlled since then. Every article is now on Obama, or Guliani, Or Romney, or Clinton.

    No more Kucinich, or Paul, or war crimes.

    It seems as if digg is tweaking the algorithm to remove the rougher sides of it's population base, and turn us into a mainstream media, comedy site.

    Or I could be wrong. Go to digg candidates right now and look what's there. Is it more favorable to C.B.S. than it used to be. What about tomorrow? The day after?
    • onetimer, on 01/23/2008, -27/+14Are you seriously complaining that not enough Ron Paul / Kucinich stories are getting to the front page?

      Give me a ***** break. The only reason every single story with Paul's name in it isn't getting to the front page is because the majority of users who digg such stories have weakened their diggs by digging (sometimes, exclusively) hundreds of paul stories in the past. Your diggs are worth less in the eyes of the algorithm (same thing happened to apple fanboys during the iphone hype in '07)

      Don't complain just because you don't understand the algorithm.
      • notque, on 01/23/2008, -6/+14I am talking about after the algorithm changes. Not before. I believe the previous stories have caused the algorithm changes.

        But why not consider discussing the issue rationally. I could be wrong, but I don't feel any need to give you a "***** break."
      • oldhick, on 01/23/2008, -0/+13I'll be glad if they come up with a method to reduce the "my group of friends digg every stupid article i post and I fill the front page with same crap day after day" problem! Here's to hope...
    • nymphetamine, on 01/23/2008, -6/+26"t3h ron paul/dennis kuciinich censored again!" conspiracy theories FTL!
      • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -10/+2Dude, ever notice how nothing about chemtrails get posted either? Who do you think wants the FAA and NASA dismantled and why? CBS owns major shares in defense companies. Which media company sponsors digg's election coverage? Which guy is continually buried on digg?
        • onetimer, on 01/23/2008, -6/+4Do you have any sweet 911-inside-job literature by any chance?
          • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -6/+0Naw, that is all legit. Blowback from our govmn't testing new spray on them.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -13/+9The Paul and Kucinich stories are not getting to the front page because too many assholes like you created multiple Digg accounts for the sole reason of digging up those ***** stories.As a result, your diggs not only don't *****, but they are a NEGATIVE in terms of the story getting to the front page. All those multiple accounts are not only worthless, but they are a detriment for getting a story promoted. I think it is hysterical that the spammers still don't get that.
      • banmaster, on 01/23/2008, -5/+2True, but its a shame that the 95% of RP supporters who don't and never have had multiple accounts are having stories they are interested in buried immediatley thanks to the actions of bury-brigades and the jerks who use multiple acocunts.
        • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -8/+1That isn't true at all and I wish you'd stop spreading that about our canidate. They are buried because media is afraid. If the truth ever came out about some of the stuff Dr. Paul knows, we'd be eating O'Rielly pie for months (though with all the chemtrails over his city, I dont think I'd want to). They are all wacked out man. Afraid of the fact we know about their NASA movie studios. Afraid that we know about Cheyenne Mountain and how they track us with money (gold is immune). Bury Brigade? Naw - we get enough votes to go on the fron tpage with every story about ron paul. It is the digg investor crowd with a gun to kevins back rolling back your digg.

          RON PAUL 2008
          • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -2/+3Just to let you know...no one is afraid of Ron Paul.
        • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -2/+2MAybe you should post FACTUAL stories. Not your delusions.
  • bwoodall, on 01/23/2008, -1/+31the only thing i've noticed is my iGoogle page Digg module looks different and doesn't work...at all.
    • laddr, on 01/23/2008, -1/+5Its fixed now and badass, you can tab through all the sections and works great
      • bwoodall, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2i can see the tabs...just nothing under them
    • Thorpe, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2Mine works fine. Try clearing cache?
    • petebot, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1Mine works, but now it opens a new window instead of just opening on the same page.
  • diizy, on 01/23/2008, -18/+12"The reason why there are so many changes is that Digg is becoming desperate in trying to find a way to stop their users from hightailing it over to Mixx (Mixx.com). Look at Digg’s traffic stats from the past three months. Since Mixx came on to the scene, Digg has fallen into a slow and steady down-slide in all measurable categories of user activity.

    One reason that a lot of people were leaving is that Digg voters base their votes more on who submitted a story than on the quality of the content itself. This has disoriented a lot of Digg’s newer users who don’t have hundreds of friends but who nonetheless wish to participate in the system and the community. Digg has not accommodated those users, and Mixx has. It’s as simple as that."

    This guys comment is pretty much on.
    • wild, on 01/23/2008, -1/+11I couldnt tell you the name of one DIgg user without looking. (Well, anicejew, but that was because I kept reading everyone else's responses to him.) I just digg what I like, and dont worry about the rest.
      • T8erT0T, on 01/23/2008, -2/+15Mixx looks mildly retarded. And yeah, people are just flocking over to mixx in the masses. Judging by the homepage and looking at the Votes it seems to have a swelling community of about 80 people.
        ::Snooze Button::
      • iofthestorm, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3Seriously, I never look at usernames on digg, I just read the comments. And haha, anicejew, I was wondering why I hadn't seen his comments in a long time but then I realized that I blocked him.
    • elvenseven, on 01/23/2008, -2/+8Stop spamming mixx 'propaganda' will you. Just look at the stories over there, 20 diggs? duh.
    • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -1/+11I went to Mixx to check out what was so great about it. Four pages later I hadn't seen a single interesting headline. Digg at least has a couple.
    • truspect0r, on 01/23/2008, -0/+9Please stop spamming mixx.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4Peopel may be leaving Digg, but the stats show they sure as ***** are not going to mixx.
    • chugger1992, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ...

      for some reason the page is about Australian Open, but the graph isn't o.O
    • rarson, on 01/23/2008, -1/+3To be honest, I've never noticed stories being dugg based on the submitter and not on the content. I do avoid stories that don't appear interesting to me, and I usually don't bother to look who the submitter is. But most of the stories that I click on that have a lot of diggs I tend to agree are quality stories. And for the entire time I've been on digg, I've never felt like I somehow couldn't participate in the process.

      Perhaps it's that I'm adept at picking up on which stories I know I'm going to like, but even if that's the case, and the other half of the stories that get diggs are crap, then that would still indicate to me that the fault lies in the person who cannot avoid clicking on crap stories.
  • onetimer, on 01/23/2008, -19/+8Buried as inaccurate. This isn't anything official, just speculation from what appears to be some third-party blogger.

    Come back when digg makes an announcement.
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -11/+8They don't explain or discuss changes to the algorithm, so.. come back never. Good way to ignore the changes, and stop opposition to them if the community doesn't like them.
      • onetimer, on 01/23/2008, -9/+6You just got the point of the comment, didn't you?
  • Albionshores, on 01/23/2008, -5/+36This isn't going to effect the adverts is it? The adverts always seem to work, even when I can't shout, look at a profile or load a screen - I always get my adverts and I don't know what I'd do without them.

    Why would new users come to digg if they didn't have the lure of T-mobile, hunting with MossyOak and a free 30 day Skin-tensive trial; which not only restore but smooths AND firms, or so I am assured!

    I can understand Digg wanting to draw fresh blood by making it easier for a newbie to get FP and so changing its system even if that does mean more Spammers and BuryGroups.

    I can understand why Digg wants to help keep things fresh by getting Digg moderators in to 'trim the fat' (or as I like to put it, 'shove a pencil into the heart of why Digg is called Digg')


    ....but please, for the love of all that is Kevin, don't ***GET RID OF THE ADVERTS!!!!****
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -1/+33There's advertising on digg?
      • Albionshores, on 01/23/2008, -3/+5They're like Easter Eggs. You have to get up early in the morning and look really, really hard before they all go.
        • banmaster, on 01/23/2008, -2/+4Disabling ad blocking extensions also helps.
    • Kronos6948, on 01/23/2008, -0/+17You have to realize for this site to make money (Which, let's face it, it's about making money), either they have to have adverts, or they have to have subscriptions. If they make people subscribe=epic fail.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -4/+3I hate to break it to you, but Digg has ALWAYS had moderators.
      • banmaster, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4But now it has censors as well.
        • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -3/+2So you bitch. Doesn't make it true. your little bitch ass Ron Paul stories are not being censored. They just are not EARNING their way to the front page. multiple accounts get flagged. just leavealready. Ron Paul is done.
    • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -2/+13"GET RID OF THE ADVERTS!!!!"

      While I agree with you that it would be nice to have no ads, on the other hand... Do you have any idea how much it costs to run a site like Digg? Shedloads of money. Truckloads. No really, it's insanely expensive.

      So unless you have a constructive suggestion as to how Digg is going to make the money to pay for the upkeep of this site if ads are removed, what you're suggesting is basically a death sentence for Digg.
      • Albionshores, on 01/23/2008, -5/+3Well define insanely expensive because there are two very real alternatives that I can think of and one very big reason why they could work.
        • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -0/+7Please, tell us more.
          • Albionshores, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Well define 'insanely expensive'.

            Because one alternative would be sponsorship not advertising space. If Digg returned back to its original roots of leaving the direction to its userbase and released how the algorithm worked, who buried what stories - transparency on everything then that would be a very powerful platform with a very strong support base. Every company that wishes to be seen as impartial, everything in the media that claims to not censor and tries to be objective would value the Digg open-arena affiliation. Rather than Digg allowing any business to have Digg button on their site they could provide them to other companies for sponsorship. At the moment Digg has found a reputation of burying stories and censorship because it is not as open as it used to be.

            Revert back to an original concept of open-ness and it would be bar for mainstream media to hold themselves against. To openly encourage their stories to appear on Digg and to be torn down, apart, scrutinised and argued over. Digg would also find itself affiliated with any number of other programs too.

            You may argue that they could never find such sponsorship but then look at how much money is spent by groups on advertising as it is. There is no reason why Digg can't get access to advertisng money without advertising. Sponsorship money would be small fry to a media outlet which spends millions on advertising and PR as it is.

            Right at the bottom of the page is a list of Digg links and info. No reason why affiliates should not appear there too. It wouldn't be an advert to click on, it would be a list of sponsors who advocate freespeech. If Digg protects its reputation others will pay Digg not to advertise for them but to allow themselves to be affilitated with that reputation. Digg could be a badge of honor for others to wear, not an advertising pimp's whore.
    • rarson, on 01/23/2008, -2/+4I dugg your comment because I found it hilarious, and somewhat truthful, too.
  • sgiffy, on 01/23/2008, -23/+3Yet another effort to suppress Dr. Congressman RonPaul(tm). How are we going to pretend he has more support then he does by gaming the internet now?
    • notque, on 01/23/2008, -6/+2I don't think it's solely to suppress Ron Paul, but instead to bring Digg more inline with other mainstream sources.
  • StacyWebb, on 01/23/2008, -3/+13Internal Server Error
    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
    Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@soshable.socialnewswatch.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
    More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
    Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
    Apache/1.3.39 Server at soshable.com Port 80

    hmm maybe a little testing first?
  • nsdjoe, on 01/23/2008, -1/+8i wish they'd make it so it wouldn't crash my firefox every other time i view a comments page
    • Ataxia2008, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1I feel your pain
    • stoanhart, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I'm not so sure if that is Digg's fault. I almost left Firefox after many good years due to its recent suckage. But, I'm on FF3 Beta 2 right now, and the difference is night and day. It's so much faster and more stable (even as a beta). Looks like I will be sticking around for at least another version.
  • dubjah, on 01/23/2008, -0/+21Nice to see the Digg effect hasn't changed since the maintenance. "500 Internal Server Error"
  • davidkeithjones, on 01/23/2008, -12/+6Please, stories are manually promoted by Digg staff. I have yet to see any logic in front pagers.
    • estacado, on 01/23/2008, -2/+8I think the staff have better things to do than pick out Ron Paul stories all day.
      • davidkeithjones, on 01/23/2008, -4/+2They pick things that keep people coming back, in case you haven't noticed, Digg and Ron Paul are like PB&J these days.
        • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -5/+3It is a little known fact that peanut butter contains a chemical "Oxydioxide 13" (added by the FDA) that causes you to be more suseptible to ground based radio transmissions. This is a fact and there are several researchers in the UK that have been studying these transmissions. I'd like to prove it to you on digg, but any article about it is perma-buried almost instantly (and links are filtered out of comments). There is a reason you think it is funny RP is buried all the time, and it isn't your free will. That is about all I can say. You'd do well to vote for somebody who will dismantle the FDA however. Maybe then you'd wake up.
          • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3LOL!
          • insertAliasHere, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3Let me just reach over here and get my tinfoil hat....thats better.
          • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -2/+0If you carried gold, you'd be safer man.
        • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -3/+0The federal government has no business putting chemicals in your food. If states want to make you a zombie, that is fine (and if you dont like it, move somewhere else). But do you read anything about "Oxydioxide 13" in the constitution? No!

          When ron paul isn't elected and you are a bunch of zombies, we'll see who gets the last laugh.
    • tman84, on 01/23/2008, -1/+3the logic is, if Msaleem submitted it, it gets front paged, whether its a dupe story or not.
  • Scheissen, on 01/23/2008, -23/+9Screw Digg. There are so many worthy Ron Paul stories that get 200+ diggs in hours yet never make it to the front page. Sorry if your users like freedom.
    • thcobbs, on 01/23/2008, -6/+16maybe because they are Spam, and they are ignoring it.
    • onetimer, on 01/23/2008, -7/+11It's not diggs fault that so many certain users dugg paul stories over and over again to the point that they weakened their diggs in regards to the algorithm.
      • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -4/+2I suspect they use some kind of Bayesian algorithm that factors in what amounts to an entire users profile and history. You think about all the crap the database has on you and a Bayesian filter can do a pretty good job of figuring out your vote weight.
      • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -2/+3I should have added, it will be interesting to see how the RP spammers try to route around it. I've seen them complain to eachother when they have RP in the title or description. They even break the URL when they post on their forum to "digg this" so digg doesn't get the referrer. Now it seems that the only thing they can do is vote up smear peices on other guys and than flood the comments with pro RP stuff. If I'm right about the Bayesian filter, all that they'll do is just make it harder to post crap even remotely related to RP. The best part is when there is actually something *legit* about him to post (like maybe winning a state finally) they'll have trouble getting it posted.
    • oldhick, on 01/23/2008, -2/+9Why don't you start a site dedicated to Ron Paul, I'm sure the rest of us Diggers wouldn't mind at all. While I support Dr. Paul, I like the old Digg where there were a variety of stories. Now they're all Clinton is a lying sack of *****, impeach Bush, Ron Paul rocks...
    • kidcodea, on 01/23/2008, -2/+7how can there be so many worthy ron paul stories?
      • thcobbs, on 01/23/2008, -2/+4Reposts of recycled ***** that is repackaged in repugnant refuse.
    • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -3/+12You STILL don't get it, don't you? You think you are outsmarting Digg, but Digg outsmarting you. They KNOW when people create multiple accounts. And when those multiple accounts are used to digg the same stories over and over, not only does it not count as a digg, but it counts as a bury, or something similar.
      You are only screwing yourselves by trying to game the algorithm with multiple accounts.
      • RUFuKinCrazy, on 01/23/2008, -4/+2please seek professional help.
        • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -3/+0Yup. ANother victim of the government illegally spraying us.
        • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -0/+3help for common sense?
        • superawesome, on 01/23/2008, -2/+2Common Sense to everybody who knows about chemtrails and reptilians. You better follow that link fast before the anti-freedom crowd removes it.
          http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/reps.htm
        • capeman, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1According to that site's predictions Saudi Arabia was to become the the North Pole by 2007. I bet those Saudis are welcoming the cooler weather.
          This is a bigger joke than all the Loony Toons put together. Complete BS.
    • daborg, on 01/23/2008, -3/+7"There are so many worthy Ron Paul stories that [...] never make it to the front page."

      Thank God for that. Or rather, thank Digg for that.
    • Scheissen, on 01/23/2008, -3/+1Oh I'm sorry. Lets get a post about how great of a speaker Obama is when he isn't that great.
  • dcsears, on 01/23/2008, -0/+11The algorithm may be different, but Digg still crashes pages...
  • dimomark, on 01/23/2008, -6/+2who the hell cares? some lonely fan boy on the digg refresh rollercoaster? for god's sake, go get a life and leave the linking to social bookmarking news blogs.
  • SmackedbyEVO, on 01/23/2008, -1/+16http://duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_Digg_Algorithm ...
  • sdigroup, on 01/23/2008, -8/+1Internal Server Error
    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

    Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@soshable.socialnewswatch.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

    More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

    Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
    Apache/1.3.39 Server at soshable.com Port 80
  • akatherder, on 01/23/2008, -2/+12Buried as inaccurate. Maybe the downtime caused a problem with the timing in between diggs that caused articles to jump to the front page. Maybe certain people submitted more stories than usual or other people submitted less. Maybe there was more/less interesting news stories than usual.

    How abou the Heath Ledger story getting 20,000 diggs? That could cause other diggs to get watered down based on a comparison of the top story. How often do stories break 5,000 diggs, much less 10K, much less DOUBLE that?
  • DannoSpeaks, on 01/23/2008, -8/+6Go ahead and digg me down, but this is the most boring and trivial news story I've read in some time. I feel sorry for those whose lives are personally affected by this bit of "news"
  • bingobongony, on 01/23/2008, -4/+8Great...another clueless website trying to backwards engineer the algorithm.
  • xpose, on 01/23/2008, -3/+11Digg is like your favorite sports team. You care about it and feel loyal to it, yet it can give two ***** about you.
  • antdude, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4http://duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_Digg_Algorithm ...
  • Snarfy, on 01/23/2008, -14/+9I like how you can bury and remove any Ron Paul article from the front page with a single bury. Notice the lack of RP stories on Digg these days? Nice algorithm. Nice and democratic.

    • hiro, on 01/23/2008, -2/+5Possibly because many of us don't know who he is and don't give a *****? We're not all American on here you know!
    • mghwom1, on 01/23/2008, -4/+2Dr. Paul used to be on the front page every day....multiple, MULTIPLE times. Now you can barely find him.

      Yet, Obama stories seem to be hitting more and more lately.
      • ihatepaulspam, on 01/23/2008, -1/+3About %10 of the population of the world is American.
        About %30 of Americans vote.
        About %50 vote republican.
        A site a that has multiple multiple stories about Paul will appeal to .1*.3*.5= %1.5 of the worlds population. How about the other %98.5? And that is assuming that all republican voters would be interested in Paul, which is ridiculous. If you want to read multiple articles about Paul go to his website.
    • mike17032, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4Consider it payback for all the ***** spamming the rontards have done for months now. This is a site for news, not a place to run your no chance in hell campain from.
  • gluon, on 01/23/2008, -8/+4Oh good... More Ron Paul, more Mac, more Ubuntu!!
    Proof that a true democracy didn't work for Rome and won't work here.
  • pertsix, on 01/23/2008, -3/+3Digg's popularity hasn't gone down, or lost momentum you dolts.

    Google trends:
    http://www.google.com/trends?q=digg%2C+mixx%2C+red ...

    Alexa ranking:
    http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ...
    • fac3less, on 01/23/2008, -0/+4Precisely, these guys are kidding themselves. Digg has been growing immensely & has retained 46-50 million hits per month. Absolutely gorgeous.
  • moletimer, on 01/23/2008, -3/+13Forbidden
    You don't have permission to access /digg-algorithm-change/ on this server.

    Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
  • Takuro, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1That's not all that's got messed up. I keep getting logged off every 2 minutes. Very annoying.
  • bitspace, on 01/23/2008, -0/+11The soshable.com algorithm has changed. Any attempts to access any content will now be redirected to an error page.
  • boredsam, on 01/23/2008, -0/+2the new igoogle digg plugin is really nice.
  • CATSCEO, on 01/23/2008, -1/+4Very sneaky, digg, very sneaky...
  • depro9, on 01/23/2008, -1/+1A lot less Linux stories makes the front now.
  • fani, on 01/23/2008, -2/+1Well... after pownce story got on front page, I know what hypocrites Kevin and his cronies are.
    I'm so glad pownce got pounced on and that crap is going to go away in the web gutters.
  • alkaline213, on 01/23/2008, -2/+1403 Forbidden. What exactly are you hiding Digg?
  • Ferre1, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1403 Forbidden for me too, but you can read it here:
    http://duggmirror.com/tech_news/The_Digg_Algorithm ...
  • terminal157, on 01/23/2008, -1/+2Maybe I'm just a country bumpkin who doesn't understand all this "internets" stuff, but it seems to me that the digg algorithm is ridiculously complex for the sole purpose of manipulating its output to the benefit, not of the users or accuracy itself, but of those who run the site. Call me naive, but that doesn't seem like the way it aught to be. It seems almost as if the basic premise of digg, that the users control the content, is becoming more dishonest with each "update".
  • SkullyBocks, on 01/23/2008, -0/+1I will wait and see if Kevin has anything to say about this...and if he doesn't then we all know its true.
  • uklizzie, on 01/24/2008, -0/+0Interesting stuff. I was just getting my head round the matrix thing...now I have to learn again. Why do I have to learn? Just because it's there. I just pretend to understand anyway!
  • WarrenWhitlock, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1reading tealeaves
  • parushing, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1I feel empowered now...
  • cyberprashant, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1check the digg blog out now! OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

    http://blog.digg.com/
  • doctordbx, on 01/24/2008, -0/+0Apple has less than 10% marketshare yet nearly every Apple story hits the front page.
    If the algorithm isn't being rigged from the inside, then it is being gamed from the outside.
    • thedharmabum, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Apple has a considerably larger share of popular consciousness than 10%. The have huge name recognition, the majority of the MP3 player and (legal) digital content download markets, and the most popular cell phone in the US. It's not just a simple "10% of PCs :. 10% of news stories" thing. That said, the top diggers were definitely skewing things, like when the entire front page of the tech section was trivial iPhone articles.
  • OBKenobi, on 01/24/2008, -0/+1Stop babbling, you morons!
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