What is Digg?53 Comments
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+31http://thepiratebay.org/searchcloud
Kind of interesting, because it shows what the world is most interested in pirating at any given moment. Right now it looks like people are really trying to get a hold of "Happy Feet" and "Borat". Oh, and "Porn" of course. - headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Digg was hardly the first site to offer a tag cloud.
- Cglass, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@bonchx - That's like saying, "I like how Ford makes it easy for me to run people over. ***** humans. ***** their lives!" Do you see how your logic is *****?
- god4twenty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I like these types of visualizations. I'm not sure how useful it really is though.
I'd like to see these types of visuals turned into screen savers, especially digg. How hard would it be to turn these into real time screen savers? - meatmcguffin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9It looks like as many people are searching for 'preteen'
I hate the internet sometimes :/ - crgnetworks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"happy feed porn"
LOL. - jmulder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I honestly think that tag clouds are one of the worst interface solutions we have come up with in the past couple of years. The three main problems are as followed:
1. Information overload. There's no easy way to distinguish tags from eachother due to the varied length of words. Moreover, the varied size ensures that anything that could resemble a grid in the design is nullified.
2. Lack of attacking a single problem. What problem are tag clouds supposedly trying to solve? Relevance and popularity related problems is what they should solve (and seem to try), but considering they are _not_ (including TPB's implementation) offered and placed at the time and context such questions leading to said problems arise, it becomes useless. Why do you not offer me this when I am actually using the existing search functionality? That is the time I am willing to explore in specific areas, because I have the goal to find something.
3. Combining the two above, you get a representation of the database with of little value to the visitor. What does it mean when a word is big? When is it big? 10, 100 or 1000 references? How do I see if a tag is relevant to my current interest? You can't.
Especially in TPB's implementation it is poorly designed and offered in the wrong place at the wrong time. The only thing a tag cloud solves as it is implemented in most of the sites these days, is communicating existing tags (possibly de facto standards) to someone who wants to maximize his search results. The meaning of the data is great, but now let's do something useful with it. Offer them during search for relevance, which can be based on popularity. - matthijs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The biggest searches at mininova (http://www.mininova.org/cloud) are mostly new stuff, funny though that for a year French has always taken a big place in there :).
- jonahan52, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Well if you want fast download speeds then yes!
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Kind of disturbing that "eragon" is bigger than "xxx" and "porn" right now...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@ meatmcguffin
You think they're onto you? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I can't believe people actually search for "xxx". What an ultra vague search query. That's like searching for "software" in google when looking for a particular program.
- laceration, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Its not about artists rights. The Grateful Dead always let people record their shows and freely exchange them and it didn't hurt them. Its about pimp daddy entertainment companies that are irrelevant with modern technology. They are fighting tooth and nail to keep their greedy little paws in the pot. When a machine could replace a worker, or they could be outsourced, they are, but when it come to an industry its not the same? Viva Pirate Bay!
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Reminds me of:
Rob Schneider is... A STAPLER!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhLbP7dWK2w - aegis9975, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Saddam" seems to also be a popular search. I'm assuming people are looking for the video.
- bunni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You should be able to sort by most seeded keyword :)
- darkpl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This has been presented in http://www.fulltorrent.net/ few weeks ago. PirateBay is learning from others :D
- scrambled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ha! Fox's crappy "'Til Death" shows up under porn.
- Somniis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The only problem I've had with TPB is that sometimes the search results do not load at all.. otherwise, it's fine. :)
- TheCaptainJS, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Off Topic,
But I think its Ironic that this site became so much more popular after an attempt to shut them down. Its now one of the largest bittorrent sites, and 10x as many people know about it now then did before the raid. - blackbelt88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Am I the only one that uses The Pirate Bay as a last resort among the major indexing sites? I usually search Mininova first, then ISOhunt, then btjunkie, and then TPB. Like yukevster said, it's a nice site, but it's usually pretty hard to find what I want, if they have it at all. I'm not even sure if they carry TV shows.
- ZeroLogic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3No one said it was ground breaking or that TPB was the first tracker to have one. It's new to TPB. I didn't know TPB had it until I read about it here. It's news, ppl digg it.
- yukevster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The big problem with PirateBay, and why I never use it, is it's search results are often waaay off. You type in a movie title for example and it brings all sorts of wierd stuff with no relation to the title - not always but just unreliable.
Stick to TorrentSpy, MiniNova and BTJunkie. - xtmno3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am disappointed, I thought the article was mentioning something like digg-swarm for TPB. That would be really interesting. Search clouds are nice sometimes, but most of the time they are just a big jumbled mess of ugly.
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The Pirate Bay is a good place to get torrents if you don't give a ***** about actually getting peers from a tracker.
- tucsonwc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1PirateBay needs a better default search feature with filters just as demonoid has. I don't understand why their UI for searching is so weak.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1sj7.png (in case it changes)
yeah, the only thing that surprises me is that saddam is as big as porn. - knutars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://thepiratebay.org/tv
- NoSlack913, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Excellent feedback.
I want to make a better tagcloud, do you (or anyone) have a wish list? dont constrain yourself to thinking in terms of the limitation of a web interface.
I really think this can be an interesting tool. - Somniis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Porn, as usual, is one of the larger words...
- cathars1s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I like legal P2P as much as the next person, but...
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It makes no sense to call the companies, RIAA, and other monolithic entities 'evil'. Remember, they front money and time for the production of the album. As such, they have control over its distribution. To use the analogy of cars, saying that the RIAA is stealing from the artists is the same thing as saying that car companies are stealing their engineers ideas. Musicians are signed to a record deal, to produce music to be distributed through various labels. Musicians, despite what outsiders think, are not the end-all and be-all of commercial music. Producers, background vocalists, marketers, graphic designers, sound engineers, studio owners, and so forth all need to get paid for their work.
So, it's all very well for Justin Timberlake to say, "hey, I don't care if you download my song!". He's a multi-millionaire. The guy who designs his album art probably is not.
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Go ahead, digg me down for the truth. - noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What, do you hate porn? I bet you don't support our troops either!!!
- KungFuJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1um, it was really popular before too
- jeriqo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1huh, my list was much bigger, way too big actually
- schildkroeter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wasn't it also really popular before?
@bonchx: *sigh* - knutars, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0erh, try to check the appropriate box before hitting your enter button dude
- jackthestripper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0According to some people this search cloud feature has been on Pirate Bay a while but I've never seen it before. I think it's stupid the way they've put a link to this feature in small print and amidst lots of other writing, making it harder to find. I thought they would have made it a more prominent feature of PB.
I think these search clouds are helpful personally, when I'm in one of those moods where I'm not looking for anything in particular. I suppose these search clouds are only really helpful when looking for new stuff to download that you hadn't already thought of. - cathars1s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@laceration:
irrelevant? Departments like advertising, graphic design, and sales are all still relevant, even with the rise of the computer. Physical distribution is an onus on the label, not the artists themselves. Getting stores to carry their music is something the label, not the artist, has to do.
As someone who has firsthand experience in producing music, I know that producers (who aren't rich, unless they're celebrities like Kanye, Dre, or Storch) are definitely still relevant. Perhaps even moreso than they were twenty years ago, where expectations for production quality were generally lower. - drewhenson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You actually don't get any porn when you search Family Guy. http://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=Family+Guy. Did you even check before you posted that comment?
- drewhenson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I saw this cloud feature long before it was posted here. I didn't even realize this counted as breaking news.
- maxstr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I don't really see how a search cloud is useful. Do people just go and download whatever everyone else is downloading?
- jaz677, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Pirate bays search engine is terrible. Search for family guy and you end up with nothing but PORN, XXX, etc.
I rarely use piratebay for my torrent needs. It's just so unreliable. - icehawk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0HELLO! thepiratebay have had that feature for ages
- eqtitan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3This feature is not new, other more prominent torrent sites have used this for a few months now. Yes, it is new to PB but is by no means new.....
- thepotter, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1There's alot of articles on Digg that do not count as breaking news, but make it to the main page.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5And sites like MININOVA
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Now stealing is even easier!
- ZeroLogic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Thank you Headzoo
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Mininova has had this for ages...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Yes, it's how you get fast download speeds when you're ***** artists over and leeching off their work, fulfilling your unwarranted sense of entitlement.
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