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- Greengoo, on 04/29/2009, -13/+102Can't say I feel bad for them.
- LordPhoenyx, on 04/29/2009, -6/+88Is anyone else thinking this might be a bad idea.
Many people equate Pirates and Hackers as lawbreakers out to cause trouble and this shat plays right into their hands - GeorgeTuk, on 04/29/2009, -18/+79Errr, doesn't anyone realise this will have a detrimental effect on Pirate Bays case. Just goes to shows the users loyal to the site are not using for legal P2P.
I would expect this to be used against Pirate Bay.
Still at least they will 5 mins of geek fame, a bit sad really. - strictnein, on 04/29/2009, -1/+44How is this relevant to the case at all? It's like their office got egged.
- CodenameGamma, on 04/29/2009, -13/+54Hack the Planet!!!!
- maz2331, on 04/29/2009, -6/+43All this behavior accomplishes is to give credibility to the "regulate the internet" crowd. It's totally counterproductive.
- tdog138, on 04/29/2009, -1/+34I cannot imagine any legal system which would allow for that kind of evidence to be used in a trial. The Pirate Bay has millions of users, and the fact that a few of those users are also hacking has absolutely no relevance to the issues in the trial.
Granted, I am from the U.S., but I am absolutely certain that proof such as this would be inadmissible in a trial in the U.S. courts.
As far as publicity goes, it may not be good for TPB, but as a legal matter, it has to be irrelevant. - hcarlens, on 04/29/2009, -6/+36TPB fans might be pissed off, but targeting the law firm is a bit stupid... They're just doing their jobs. Even if they decided to end their involvement in this case, the prosecuting industries could just hire another law firm.
- thcobbs, on 04/29/2009, -12/+37And this helps them how? It just adds more ammo for the prosecution to use next time and definitely doesn't help the public opinion of the Pirate Bay.
- Walldo, on 04/29/2009, -6/+29Hey look a legal proceeding concerning a website that fosters illegal activity LETS HACK THE LAW FIRM! THAT WILL SHOW THEM WE ARE GOOD GUYS AND NOT CRIMINALS!
- groverblue, on 04/29/2009, -8/+31This doesn't help the cause AT ALL.
- inactive, on 04/29/2009, -6/+25Surprised? No. Disappointed? Yes. IS there really anyone who thinks that this is a good thing for the future of piracy?. Do you think lawyers will be afirad of this and stop going after pirate sites, or will they get pissed off and go after them harder.
Anyone who doesn't realize the answer is B is a fool.
It also kind of supports the prosecution's notion that people on the pirate's side are criminals. And it will hurt The Pirate Bay in their appeal.
Nice job guys! - FreckleEars, on 04/29/2009, -1/+15Ya I am pretty sure the same goes for the prosecution there buddy. TPB could also say that the 'fans' of the prosecution, i.e. the MPAA and the RIAA etc, pressured the Swedish government to push for a guilty verdict. Not sure that hackers attacking a firms website have anything to do with TPB trial.
Neither can be proved so are both moot suggestions in a court case and would be immediately dismissed. Unless the hackers said "We hacked your site under the supervision of TPB in response to the verdict", then this doesn't matter as ammo for the prosecution. Any sane judge would see that.
Edit: Oh and I am not saying that I agree with hacking a law firm. I am just saying it has nothing to do with the trial and cannot be used against TPB in future hearings etc. - damentz, on 04/29/2009, -2/+15lol, you just made yourself sound like an *****
oh well :\ - inactive, on 04/29/2009, -5/+16Way to perpetuate the stereotype there, "Pirates".
- SocialPoison, on 04/29/2009, -2/+11Oh lighten up.
- robbh66, on 04/29/2009, -9/+18Yes, because responding in the manner is the obviously mature way to handle it. Because obviously illegal computer activity against a lawfirm involved in a case of possibly illegal computer activity is going to just bolster the Bay's defense.
Moron. - zoodoo12, on 04/29/2009, -6/+15I wouldn't think this would be used against The Pirate Bay because they are not involved, also pirates have a negative image, they always will, and nothing will change that. What the pirate bay did was illegal no matter how you look at it. You could be a great guy, buy nobody cares if you are running a meth lab.
If you want to pirate, go ahead, but don't be surprised if you get ***** in the ass by prosecutors. - TheVirus, on 04/29/2009, -1/+9Screw him, he's trashing our rights!
- ryansmith18, on 04/29/2009, -0/+6Thank God, there's somebody here with a brain.
These hacks can't be used as evidence against them unless it's determined that TPB is actually behind the attacks. It would never be allowed in court, regardless of what it does against their "image." - ghostofpanty, on 04/29/2009, -0/+6i second that. stay classy is gayer than gay
- javaroast, on 04/29/2009, -1/+7This doesn't harm TPB one bit. TPB isn't even directly behind the DDoS. On the other hand the entertainment industry has been directly responsible for similar types of things in the past. They have used Root Kits, CD price fixing, DDOS of websites and using unlicensed investigators as part of their arsenal of tactics in the past, so if a judge is going to use that type of thing to influence their decisions they will have a lot of evidence to sort through.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Sony_BMG_CD_copy ...
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/05/cdpres.shtm
http://revision3.com/blog/2008/05/29/inside-the-at ...
http://www.p2pnet.net/story/12674 - Suricou, on 04/29/2009, -0/+5I've seen the 'hackers' in action. They don't deserve the title really, most of them are just script kiddies with little DDoS toys. But they are real.
- bsonline, on 04/29/2009, -6/+11Is anyone impressed?
Kids. Tsk tsk. - gametavern, on 04/29/2009, -4/+9I really hate this ***** saying.
- bmcnally, on 04/29/2009, -1/+6Great. Now they'll start pushing for legislation to regulate social sites as well. Because they're hotbeds of internet terrorism.
And I'm still trying to figure out how sarcastic I am on that last sentence, since we all know that anon can act as a terrorist org or a Mafia (though it doesn't blow up buses or spread anthrax - it tries to intimidate organizations such as Scientology, prosecuters, etc through digital attacks and real world annoyances). Don't think it should be shut down, but if you play with fire too much, you will get burned. - thcobbs, on 04/29/2009, -2/+7Doesn't matter if it can't be brought into evidence... there's always appeals to emotion.
- strictnein, on 04/29/2009, -2/+7Stop.....just....stop. You either forgot to remove the stick from your ass, or you're just a jerkhole.
- garrettg84, on 04/29/2009, -0/+5From comments in the article
"When the justice system fails the people, the people take justice into their own hands"
While I am not actually saying hacking/DDoSing involved parties is a good idea, it does go to show that at least a portion of people do not agree with this kind of legislation. Maybe it is time to re-evaluate the law based on current perspectives and values, law is a (mostly) written collection of values with punishments assigned. - BarlowBRob, on 04/29/2009, -2/+7To all of those saying this is counter-productive, when did sitting back and taking punishment for stupid regulations ever work in the favor of those wanting those regulations abolished? If they see us as a push-over, then they will try to invoke even dumber regulations on the intarwebs. Now, I agree the internet should not go too far in this instance, but at least make a point that we won't be pushed around easily.
- Rain12913, on 04/29/2009, -7/+11Why is he getting dugg down? The people who will be deciding the fate of the Pirate Bay in a future trial are hearing about stuff like this and are becoming further convinced of the association between the Pirate Bay and illegal activity.
- billski, on 04/29/2009, -1/+5Hack the Planet!!!!
- happytrees, on 04/29/2009, -0/+4I don't see this hurting the case at all... you're right, most people see both as wrong already, all this does is give the bad guys a little revenge. The perceptions of prosecutors or the general public won't be changed... *****, the public will probably never even hear about this.
I say ***** 'em - they've ***** us for long enough already. besides, is this a fight we'll ever win in court anyway? - black27696, on 04/29/2009, -1/+5I think it was more like "lets ***** them up for a while, just for the hell of it"
- pocodiablo1, on 04/29/2009, -2/+6That law firm pissed off a whole bunch of people within black channels who's whole philosophy is to band together and fight restricting forces. Just think MARBLECAKE
- j035u5, on 04/29/2009, -1/+5If anything it just goes to show that the accused are not the pirate bay
- shane956, on 04/29/2009, -0/+4This always happens. You gotta bunch of old dumb guys in charge who are a generation (or more) separated from the current technology/culture. Unfortunately for them, this time around the very infrastructure they use to run their business and make money (ie: the internet) is more widely used and understood by kids in junior high.
And now they're threatening the lifestyles of these youths who have more power, knowledge, and communication than any generation before it. No wonder the government is trying to get hackers to apply for jobs. Even people who study the stuff for years can't compete a kid born in the 90's who's first decision was PC or Mac. - FredFredrickson, on 04/29/2009, -2/+6Why would they do that when they already won the trial?
- strictnein, on 04/29/2009, -0/+3@FelixDeluxe :
I think you're missing what I'm saying. Although I'm really not sure how you can be: "hackers" are attacking web sites. How this can be brought up by the prosecution during trial is beyond me. Maybe Sweden has laws that allow prosecutors to bring up incidents unrelated to the trial and not perpetrated by the accused? - CoreyTamas, on 04/29/2009, -2/+5We all love the law when it's giving us what we personally want. We all cry foul when we don't get what we personally want.
When are we going to come up with a better measuring stick for something that's supposed to serve a society, not individuals? - Suricou, on 04/29/2009, -0/+3To call the attackers 'hackers' probably overdignifies them. I know they have one decent hacker, because someone had to create the more effective of the DDoS tools, and they date from long-ago attacks. That's probably all. The rest are just script-kiddies, no idea what they are doing.
- garrettg84, on 04/29/2009, -1/+4trashing our rights i tell you, hack the planet!!!!
- CoreyTamas, on 04/29/2009, -0/+3I think you're making a mistake by thinking that the Pirate Bay ending up in legal trouble is synonymous with correcting a problem in the music industry.
- waydee, on 04/29/2009, -6/+9Yeah I'm sure the TPB guys will appreciate this retarded support, really helps their case for the upcoming appeal doesn't it. ***** kiddies.
- MrUploads, on 04/29/2009, -1/+4Did you ever read TPB replying to takedown requests?
If you have, then you'd know why TPB's followers would probably act stupid and childish. - Grueslayer, on 04/29/2009, -1/+4Hacking their site isn't as effective as signing them up to receive 100 gay porn magazines at his home and office.
- spepin, on 04/29/2009, -3/+6Argh. I wish people would defend TPB, but not be stupid and childish about it, this isn't going to help their cause.
- RonADiSH, on 04/29/2009, -5/+8***** the cause, what about the fact that the law firm were just doing their job??
- OliE420, on 04/29/2009, -4/+7Can't believe no one said it already....
***** THE RIAA. - tdog138, on 04/29/2009, -1/+3That analogy is horrible and does not apply whatsoever.
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