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- SSPink, on 10/22/2008, -4/+45So, your average college student gives his school about $100 a year to help protect the RIAA and the MPAA... money well spent, I'm sure.
- inactive, on 10/22/2008, -3/+39This is such ***** at a time when most schools have been forced to cut their budgets.
- intelijunt, on 10/23/2008, -2/+37So here's how it goes: You pay tuition --> You become poor --> You download instead of buying (which makes you poorer) --> You get screwed by your college (pay fines and become poorer) --> College raises their tuition --> You become really poor.... I like where this is going.
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/22/2008, -1/+21$350,000 a year is like 23 full scholarships to a CSU.
- TunaFishGangsta, on 10/23/2008, -0/+13Seems like they might be better to use that $350,000 a year to buy their students mp3s from one of those Russian sites(mp3fiesta, etc.) that sell mp3s for like 2 cents each.
- frsrblch, on 10/23/2008, -1/+11Which feels better; knowing that your government has the interests of deep-pocketed corporations in mind, or that in two weeks you get to choose which of the two candidates will pass their laws for them?
- idontknowmaybe, on 10/23/2008, -1/+10i'm glad they have their priorities straight
- eddrasta, on 10/23/2008, -0/+6California State University.
- BicBall, on 10/23/2008, -0/+6I got caught at my school (University at Albany) a month ago by BayTSP. You can read the e-mail I got here:
http://www.turboforum.net/forums/attachment.php?at ...
Kind of scary but they didn't pursue it, I just had to sign a form that I received the DMCA complaint and got my internet turned back on. My ISP wouldn't release the user of the IP address to them. - Navicerts, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4Perhaps purchasing the software students need with that money would be a more effective way of fighting piracy.
- cis4smack, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4Colleges should buy more bandwidth instead of wasting money on useless software so we don't have to wait so long for a movie to finish....YAY!
- kimbja98, on 10/23/2008, -0/+4The only thing a college should concern itself with is how much bandwidth a student uses, and what student account corresponds to what IP address. If the student does something illegal such as plan a terrorist attack then the police etc can use existing law enforcement tools to find and prosecute them. Colleges shouldn't need to play internet police as it's effectively taking the law into their own hands. The police and legal system are there for a reason, and if something illegal occurs, then they should deal with it.
That's not to say the college can't police their own network; it is their network so they can do what they like. However, they can't complain if it costs too much as no-one is making them do it. If the RIAA are coercing them, unless there's some corruption then the college should just refer them to standard legal procedures if they believe a crime has been committed...just like everyone else who wishes to accuse someone. - rccola71, on 10/23/2008, -0/+3cal state is right
- AuriniDMJ, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3...you have a degree that allows you to earn more money than anybody else?
I'm just saying, is all. I'm actually rather opposed to both universities and the RIAA. - boodog, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3RIAA is wasting a ton of money here... I mean you can now stream any type of music through various sites.
Soon in a few years you'll be able to the same thing with your Internet mobile device... they are just trying to slow things down til then. - Unrealevil, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3Schools? Come on, that's beyond *****.
- Swivelstick, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2I' confused, http://digg.com/tech_news/Microsoft_described_as_b ...
- JesseJ, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2It's like the War on Drugs, costs a lot, but not working. It's like the War on 'Terrorism', costs a lot, but not working. It's like the War on Piratism, costs a lot, but not working. All the wasted money spent on those could be spent to pay the artists, feed the poor, educate everyone and make the world a nice place.
- dandonia, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3Yeah that's right because some people deserve to have a better life than others. The majority of students will leave university and pay more taxes than those that don't attend university, shouldn't they be helped through their time as a student by making their life a little more barable? Wouldn't that serve as a decent encouragement for people to stay/return to education.
I know at least 4 people that want to return to education, but they would have to go from a guy earning 11-15k per year to a guy borrowing 10k just to pay the course fee's then they have to live on top of that. Does it benefit the economy, them staying out of education thus only paying a small amount of tax.
I swear most of the world have their priorities mixed up. Music is broadcast for free on the radio, what does it matter if someone has it on their hard drive or casset tape? The same goes for movies/tv shows. - inactive, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2If the RIAA wants our schools to waste their time policing their networks then the RIAA can pay for it their own damn selves.
- dandonia, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2Last I heard, (before this article that is) universities are getting paid to grass their students up.
- dandonia, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2You get your degree but then you find that most companies are farming out your jobs to other countries to save a fortune. Thus leaving you screwed. Or that the mismanagment of your country has lead to a financial crisis which means while you are obligated to pay these debts the job market has crashed, thus reducing your chances of ever paying off your debts let alone buy that nice house you planned for.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/23/2008, -1/+3Ever heard of VNC? It's incredibly effective as a roundabout way to download torrents. Leave a PC at home, VNC to it, tell it to torrent stuff, FTP stuff from it to school under names like "Ubuntu 8.10.iso" that would seem like ordinary legal downloads. I don't torrent much though, as the benefit of college dorm networks is that you're bound to have at least 2 or 3 people with computers full of music, movies, software, etc that you can get without even going on the Internet.
- dandonia, on 10/23/2008, -0/+2I don't know why you got dugg down, all music videos are put on the internet by the owners - be it on YouTube or other services. Maybe it's because you can already do the same with your internet mobile devices like your phones for example.
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -0/+1Who said anything about the government? I said the RIAA should be footing the additional cost if they want to waste the school's time.
- gentooian, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1That's only if they are running an ancient version of Clean Access. That trick no longer works in the current versions (greater than 4.0)
- Myztry, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1We run a fairly large incorporated business producing government sanctioned (and occasionally mandated/specified) recycled products.
I was just wondering how we can go about making educational funding dependent on our own agenda.
Sounds like a profitable scam to get into...Who do we have to pay off? - Ryosen, on 10/24/2008, -0/+1I'm sure the schools would rather incur the expense than have the government meddling around their networks.
- Gloogle, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Better yet to put himself in jail.
- glebvr, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081020-p2p- ...
Just thought I would add this even though it talks about pretty much the same stuff. - kimbja98, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Just change the user string agent in your browser and Cisco Clean Access thinks you're something else like a macintosh. Then you shouldn't need to install their software.
- t0x2c, on 10/23/2008, -1/+2By trying to get the opposing view (a group such as Digg) to acknowledge a new scenario, it is a step forward in establishing such a scenario as law. If we say that sharing all copy written files is illegal, then they are even closer to public acceptance of a law limiting our free speech.
I'm hardly a conspirator, but this one is so blatantly obvious, and hell, Diggers are voting the man above me down, proving the RIAA/MPAA are indeed effective. - Ryosen, on 10/24/2008, -0/+1This is a direct result of government intervention. It's not a matter of if they will get involved, but how. That being said, I'm sure that the schools would rather have to pay to be self-policing than open up their networks and data to government scrutiny and bureaucratic interference.
- Travelsonic, on 10/23/2008, -3/+4"and go after students who use filesharing networks to share copyrighted files"
*smack*
Copyright INFRINGING files, since technically, everything is copyrighted by creation, and this leaves out copyrighted-yet-freely-shared. Is it REALLY that hard to include the proper term, infringing?
Statistics on file-sharing use, for those tempted to reply, are irrelevant. It is still infringing, and not non-infringing files that will get you into trouble. - Jeebugorn, on 10/23/2008, -2/+3Columbus State University
- dandonia, on 10/23/2008, -1/+2The idea that a student who gets a copy of a movie, CD or game; is in anyway theft, is ridicules. Just what exactly are they taking from someone else? The majority of students are extremely poor so the opportunity of sale isn’t even a good defence. Forget that, what about the long term effect of criminalizing students, thus preventing them from getting a decent job which in turn reduces the amount of tax they will pay long term, hurting the economy.
University’s paying money to render the education they spent the last 4 years giving to somebody – pointless, while at the same time lowering the students’ positive effect on the economy and all just so that extremely wealthy people can increase their wallet size. Not by actually selling a product people will buy but by lawsuits against poor people just trying to make a better life for themselves. - FlyingPhotog, on 10/22/2008, -6/+7I went to college back when Napster was the big deal. I still cache hundreds of great songs thanks to that program.
- tehWyman, on 08/19/2009, -0/+1Colorado State University?
- BicBall, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1Hmm I managed to paste the wrong link, here's the correct one. My bad.
http://suprbay.org/showthread.php?t=33050
Mexrocker; I tried DC++ but it sucked. - Agret, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1I have to register to view that, can you copy-paste?
- Ryosen, on 10/24/2008, -0/+1Wouldn't it just be more cost-effective for colleges to outright ban the possession of all music and movies, whether purchased or downloaded? That would eliminate piracy all together. Come on, RIAA, how about it?
- reaper527, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1agreed. politicians love to criticize our school systems, lets stop forcing them to spend money they don't have to. maybe then we can actually focus on the schooling instead of the MAFIAA
- Mexrocker, on 10/23/2008, -0/+1UAUKNOW!
That's why you should stick to our DC++ hub and use private trackers. - Metadrew, on 10/23/2008, -0/+0Cisco Clean Access Agent is pretty effective at stopping my p2p, sadly.
- sleeknerve, on 10/23/2008, -3/+3some of my friends have a full ride scholorship to a CSU, and they fully deserve it, however some of my friends who got barely less the academic accomplishments, didnt get anything. This money could go to these people, who did get that one B
- frosted, on 10/23/2008, -0/+0Costs more than what they would save, and the smart people still do it. FAIL.
- inactive, on 10/23/2008, -3/+2How about - you can't afford to buy music so you do without.
Or you use free alternatives like Jamendo. - ceredron, on 10/23/2008, -6/+5***** THE TAXPAYERMONEY WASTING ROUNDABOUT FEAR-TACTIC INEFFECTIVE METHODS OF THE RIAA/MPAA
- inactive, on 10/23/2008, -5/+0You don't need filesharing networks or torrents for most books, you can find them at places like http://www.FreeBookSearch.net or one of the digital libraries. FreeBookSearch uncovered a hidden cache of IT textbooks for me in China. So I just installed the Firefox CHM reader, and I had them all.
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