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- frozensun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Google already kind of does this using the ~ modifier. search for ~war
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Searching the word 'TOOLS' brings up the words '*****' and 'dick'.
Yes, lets see Google add this. - bariswheel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7David, Google might not like the fact that you're using their name for this, you might confuse people in thinking that this is actually a Google service. I had some ideas that Google should do as well, but I was apprehensive about actually using their name. You might be walking on sensitive ground my friend, just watch your step
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Ok, Digg users, please bookmark this site and next time use some other words besides for "Amazing".
For the lazy:"astonishing, astounding, fabulous, fantastic, fantastical, incredible, marvelous, miraculous, phenomenal, prodigious, stupendous, unbelievable, wonderful, wondrous" - norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4kinda sucks if you have the autocomplete on
- HHarrelson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I like it! Not worthless.... Google's tilde option requires foresight; it's arcane. Useful to engineers and lawyers, and in the re-write stage of a document. This site allows for more thoughtful original choice of words. It may enhance communication. It's a front-side thesaurus. Useful.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Also, some other words can be found by typing 'TOOLS' such as: Peter, Pecker, Penis, ...
I rest my case. - radu79, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Maybe because a very large percent of the Digg stories contain the term: "Amazing" ?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Okay, digg me down if I'm stupid, but please explain to me first: Why is this useful?
Real-time synonyms? Why does it need to be real-time? Are these new-fangled Web 2.0 word definitions changing rapidly as I type? Why can't I just use a thesaurus?
I looked at the page, I've read the comments here, I've tried the widget, but I still don't get it. What am I missing? - msaleem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4A ***** is also: A valve used to regulate the flow of water or gas. So that part makes sense.
- tumult, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, Google already does this using the tilde, as frozensun said. Move along.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Google is unlikely to sue over this, in my mind they will either hire David or hit him with a cease and decist. I figure the odds are on them offering him a job, part of that don't be evil mindset.
- schleufer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I didn't know Google already had that feature with a Tilde.
Okay, well I guess that makes the article and prototype worthless. But once again, the Digg Community taught me something new. - phpirate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The only problem I see is that it covers the buttons and links below it. Although you CAN press enter, there are people who still use those buttons and links.
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Oh I like real-time things.
- davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ok, I just removed the autocomplete (turned it off).
- hatem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There is a big usability problem, the form should include an autocomplete="off", otherwise you can't see anything. The browser autocomplete feature is always displayed in the first layer.
- hexix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2lukes: no, the tilde method is better because you don't have to retry the search over and over.
- turbofart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This AJAXian search throws exceptions when using IE.
- hexix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ywong: you're not missing anything. This is incredibly stupid. If they're going to do anything like this, it should all be behind the scenes in indexing. There is no reason to make the user try "car prices" then go back and try "auto prices", then go back and try "auto cost". All of the searches should just find what you're looking for.
I'm sure this David Coallier guy thinks he's some kind of genius for ripping the google suggest code and plugging it into a thesaurus, but this is just dumb. - lukes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Partly does it .. The article is about "Real-Time Synonyms Search", the tilde method isn't real-time.
- foomandoonian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It would be more useful if you could use this feature on individual terms in a search string, so you can add and edit your search *before* you submit. Cool though, dugg.
- snooo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm, I do as well. Like others have said, I didn't know about the ~ function earlier - and to be honest that hardly seems to do nearly the same thing.
- lartexpert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think this is an interesting idea, but implementing it in real-time across the whole of Google's user base sounds a bit intensive in terms of traffic and processing power. Maybe returning a set of "related searches" along with the search results would make more sense. I know that instant response using AJAX is cool and all that, very Web2.0; although maybe implementing it would be feasible if Google had a set of servers just aimed at providing this particular service.
- popcultureicon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the functionality is to compete with ask.com's contextual "use tools" search.
- davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ok, last comment related to this also :)
I just added a little tool there:
http://david.dotgeek.org/google/syn/result.php - databyss, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3They'll probably ignore it, like everybody else.
- Ltgeo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As has been stated 'google suggest', http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1 already does something very similar.
I know 'suggest' is more of an auto complete utility rather than showing synonyms, however it has the added bonus of displaying how many search results each option will return, now that's cool :). So it shows that google is already looking at these types of functions to improve the search service. - davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I am aware of that problem with the weird words returned, but this is directly from thesaurus itself (online-thesaurus). If not, I would change it obviously :)
- joetcochran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just to play Devil's Advocate (no, not the pinball game)....
What if someone enters "bass" as a search term? Will it use "guitar" or "walleye" as the synonyms? - davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ok, I just added the feature that know we are indexing the values that are being searched so I will soon be able to use the good terms or at least put the ones that have been searched for the most and display how many times they have been chosen on the right side of the div
in response to hexix, no I don't think I am some kind of genius, read that http://blog.agoraproduction.com to see why I wrote the synonym suggest. Wasn't to be *cool*. Although, I found the tool pretty cool :) - davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0will just send bass to the xml api.
Ok, so if you guys want to know, you can click on known bugs, a little div will appear in the upper left corner. And yes I am aware that this is not working with IE :)
Although, I am aware of most of the compat problems, just dont' have IE to test on.. - bovinasancta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@davidcoallier:
You used an online thesaurus? I was wondering if you had an interest in creating controlled vocabularies or just thought this was a cool tool*. Then again, I'm a geek.
I look forward to playing with this & seeing how it differs from Google suggest.
*and by "tool" I mean a device that provides a mechanical or mental advantage in accomplishing a task and not well, you know ;) - davidcoallier, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh yeah, by the way, it will also find your navigator's language, and search for the words in your language (so far english, french, german and spanish are supported)
- pathy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I can't really see any use in this.. If you know what you're looking for anyway, you're going to be using specific words, and this just looks like a real-time, slightly iffy, thesaurus. Of course, it shows results as well, but I've very rarely searched for only a single term, and many of these suggestions, while valid, are only saving a second or too... Meh. I don't see it as being very useful.
I'd like something that would summon results as I type, although I suppose that's a bit far reaching considering the huge amount of sites these search engines look through when you send a query. Then again, I can't see a whole lot of use for that either. Maybe I'm just looking at these things wrong. - MrViklund, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Isn't this just the kind of technology that Google bought from that Australian student?
- kenoir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The problem isn't with synonyms, it's with word sense disambiguation - i.e. am I asking about a cat, what kind of cat am I talking about (groovy or furry). If you can figure this out you can match the search term (and the group of synonyms for it's sense), to the same synonym group in a document, (providing you can ascertain the sense of the word in the documents being searched).
- poohneat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3quick question
what would you is the difference between what david has and
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1 - Ignignokt01, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Wait, why?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2poohneat says: "what would you [suppose] is the difference between what david has and http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1"
Next time try typing something in the input box before commenting... just try it! Or, rather... go play in traffic.
frozensun says: "Google already kind of does this using the ~ modifier. search for ~war"
Correct, but this approach offers synonyms AS YOU TYPE (a la Google Suggest). This allows you to limit your search to a single word instead of having multiple synonyms compiled into a single set of search results. - safer9999, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Inovation is always interesting
Neal Saferstein - rjarow, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Wow, poor guy went and developped a site for functionality that already exists. I feel bad but, whatever I guess.
- tumult, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Great, I just hit the negative button when I meant to digg. Sorry. (Where's the frickin' undo feature)
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