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- TomK88, on 03/05/2008, -1/+96I'll tell you why people pirate:
-Bigger selection
-More convenient
-Free
What more could you ask for? - angusm, on 03/05/2008, -3/+80A spokesman for the RIAA refuted this study yesterday saying "Our own research has proved that consumers have no interest in having a wider range of titles available at modest prices. Six out of six record industry chief executives who we interviewed agreed that what consumers really wanted was a carefully-chosen selection of RIAA-approved mega-artists, priced as expensively as possible to reassure consumers that they are getting a 'quality product'. Our focus group also said that DRM technologies that rendered the music effectively unplayable made them feel 'warm and tingly', and they looked forward to the introduction of further restrictive measures to protect RIAA properties, up to and including arbitrary stop-and-search of anyone seen using an MP3 player in public, home invasions and detention without trial in extreme cases. Given the high level of consumer satisfaction with the existing state of affairs, it is clear that widespread music piracy does not reflect any actual need or preference, but rather is an act of adolescent nihilism carried out for no reason except to make a futile gesture of disobedience towards the corporate system that nurtures, feeds, clothes, and entertains us all."
The spokesman went on to describe the new levy system under which consumers suspected of having an interest in pirated music could be randomly targeted for on-the-spot fines and even savage beatings, to be administered by the RIAA's new smartly-uniformed and heavily-armed Corps of Copyright Enforcers. "Consume, you abject little worms, consume!" he added before climbing into his black helicopter and soaring away to attend a meeting of heads of industry at an undisclosed location. - snatchmstr, on 03/05/2008, -1/+56Of course people are going to do what is more convenient.
- spydon, on 03/05/2008, -2/+44P2P will, as long it is faster, easier and has bigger supply of stuff, always be a good choice. The Entertainment Industry need to accommodate more to the Internet if they want to be a competitor.
- gudnbluts, on 03/05/2008, -1/+41Plus no bloody unskippable "You wouldn't steal a car, you wouldn't steal a handbag, you wouldn't shag a horse. If you pirate, you're shagging horses" advert.
Better quality is very, very rarely true though. - Bologner, on 03/05/2008, -7/+43Since it's always appropriate:
***** THE RIAA! - dsmx, on 03/05/2008, -3/+31It's not just that, pirating offers you a better experience overall. Better quality, better price, complete freedom to do what you want with it.
- BeyondALL, on 03/05/2008, -3/+29Sure, let me see:
* I use pirated Vista instead of the original I have in the shelf because it wont make any activation hazzle.
* I download/rip MP3's of all my CD's because it's more convenient than CD's from the 80's
* I drink water from the sink instead of buying it, because it's free - BTW. Norwegian "VOSS" water that's about $ 10 a bottle is no better that what we have in the sink anyways...
* I choose freedom before RIAA - *****'em!!! - inactive, on 03/05/2008, -3/+29Well dear ***** God, my mind is absolutely blown! No seriously, I can't stand this *****. If I download an album that I bought legitimately, perhaps because the CD got scratched, I'm branded a goddamn criminal. And for what? If I paid for a goddamn album, what is the artist losing? Look, I'm goddamn sick of putting up with this *****. I support artists, but why the hell must I be legally required to support an industry based on exploiting the artists I love?
- Boreras, on 03/05/2008, -1/+25And stop trying to sue your goddamn costumers. When I walk into a store, and I see a CD of which I have very fond memories (say 'Revolver', also: memories because I will have to have listened to music before I buy it), and I think "Oh, what the hell, let's buy it". Then a feeling creeps up to me. The biggest part of my money spent will go to filled pockets, a small part will go to the artist (unless they are already successful), and a part will be used to sue ME. Me, who pays them money to sue ME. I me mine. No.
Last year, I have decided not to buy 8-10 CDs, that I seriously would have bought (I'm very fond of music, and act as a pretentious prick listening to FLACs on my 'mp3'-player) because of this. (I have bought 5 albums to release as FLAC, though :P) - MillionsLivio, on 03/05/2008, -1/+19More choice, fairer prices, higher quality; it's that easy, yet they continue to ***** it up.
- inactive, on 03/05/2008, -4/+20I save loads of money by torrenting, keeps the money out of greedy corporate pockets and allows me to spend much more at the concerts of the bands and artists I love where they'll receive a greater percentage that THEY and their crews deserve - also purchasing music and things directly off the artists website.
- chrisinsocalif, on 03/05/2008, -1/+16I only download stuff i wouldn't normally buy. If the software or song is something I like, i got out and buy it. Sometimes I buy stuff i tried out after I downloaded it from a p2p server or newsgroup.
- sparql, on 03/05/2008, -0/+15I think "Free" plays a smaller role than most people think. Convenience is the key. This is why iTunes has been successful. Everyone who owns an iPod know how easy it is to use, they know exactly what they are getting and they know it will work and be safe.
Sure, some people want free but I think the percentage is smaller than you might think. - capiCrimm, on 03/05/2008, -0/+14you mean I don't have to have horse sex for accelerated torrent speeds? All that blood for nothing... :(
- austinnowlin, on 03/05/2008, -4/+17This is soooo true.
If I could legally download songs in a LOSSLESS format at a bitrate of around 1000 or so; I absolutely would. - Gillos, on 03/05/2008, -2/+15That has a lot of truth. I pirate in some cases because I HAVE to. Some video games, for example, are only available on Ebay (for a hugely inflated price) or online (for free). If game companies would allow you to download their old games (similar to what Nintendo does with the Wii) I would do it in a second. But since I can't, I will be downloading Alpha Centauri, and Total Annihilation from a torrent.
- gudnbluts, on 03/05/2008, -0/+12"couldn't they call it bumming or something else"
You're not British, obviously. - Oronar, on 03/05/2008, -0/+11I always leave that specific advert in when I copy DVDs for people. :)
- sockpuppets, on 03/05/2008, -0/+10I made them a pirate outfit and they sued me.
- birch97, on 03/05/2008, -1/+11Seems like you have more issues than just the illegal downloading of some videos...
- Ratteler, on 03/05/2008, -4/+13You mean, "as long as the media belongs to the people, who graciously allow content providers the right to make a profit from it for a limited time, the voluntary world wide library system known by it's slang term P2P, will never die."
Good.
Glad we got that cleared up. - angers, on 03/05/2008, -1/+10water is not free, as you're most likely paying for Hydro. regardless, you have a couple good points.
- inactive, on 03/06/2008, -1/+9Or what if I lose a CD? Or a book shelf falls on it (actually happened once)>? But how is it hurting anyone, if I've already legally purchased the CD? That's what I want to know. Thanks for assuming that I'm just illegally downloading for the hell of it.
- logandurand, on 03/05/2008, -1/+9My father managed to lose *two* copies of "Flood" by They Might Be Giants. Don't think it doesn't happen.
- MillionsLivio, on 03/05/2008, -0/+7I have no problem paying for music, I bought the $10 Ghost album from Nine Inch Nails two days ago for example. I haven't paid for much music over the last few years however, as the selection is bad, it's overpriced, crap quality, and constrictive. There are plenty of artist that I like you cannot find at a store, so I use torrents as it's the easiest way. If I can I will donate directly to the artist, as they are the one that deserve it. What Nine Inch Nails is doing now, the business model will become the standard within the next few years, as it's gaining attention and for the newer upcoming artist is much more appealing to fans, easier, profitable, and yields more exposure.
- madeingermany, on 03/05/2008, -0/+7I don't believe you. If you can afford a computer and broadband, you can afford a CD or DVD.
- gudnbluts, on 03/05/2008, -0/+6"My guess is more than 70% would say they would pull the file from the free site."
My guess is they'd SAY the opposite. I'm sure they'd actually DO that though. - Treason, on 03/05/2008, -2/+8Piracy is caused by a lack of funds. It is also caused by greedy middle men who rob the artists...
- iharbinger, on 03/06/2008, -0/+6glad to see theres some GNU people still around. Props
- andymate, on 03/06/2008, -1/+6Retail music stores are scumbags anyway. They take like 90% of the money made on each song. If the bands i liked put mp3s on their site and sold the album for 5-10 dollars in which all the money goes to them i would buy it. Until they cut out the middle man (record companies) i won't buy a cd unless i'm at a gig.
Record companies take no responsibility for their actions either. - inactive, on 03/05/2008, -3/+8Yes, I actually do
- bdbr, on 03/06/2008, -0/+5I would love to get that "If you pirate, you're shagging horses" poster.
- say592, on 03/05/2008, -0/+4To bad the site isnt down, nor will it be.
- shawnanigans, on 03/06/2008, -1/+5I hate when people do this but I'm curious.
Digg me up if you would watch downloadable television content with commercials in it that could not be skipped and down if you wouldn't watch it. This is likely the most important because the majority of BT downloads are TV shows, and it is the easiest to make legal. - FasterGun, on 03/05/2008, -0/+4Dugg for the adolescent nihilism raging through my body right now.
But it doesn't really matter. - PS3Camaro, on 03/05/2008, -4/+8The honest fact of it is, as long as you can DL music or other things for free... P2P will never die.
- dannydyer1000, on 03/05/2008, -2/+6***** win, man. gg
- wellyuk, on 03/05/2008, -0/+4"What I really want to know is who in gods name asks these questions?"
How about you start a study into that? - fxu1989, on 03/05/2008, -3/+7Cus I believe in "try before you buy"
I download a movie, if I really like it, I will buy the DVD.
Same goes with games (primarily for the online gaming) and music albums. - bdbr, on 03/06/2008, -0/+4Its weird that their definition of "convenience" was just being able to get it fast. How about being able to get it in a format that plays on everything without some slow, needless "burn then rip" process?
- logandurand, on 03/05/2008, -1/+5"I me mine" == epic win
- inactive, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3Don't forget that iTunes has low birates and, in the UK at least, charges as much as for a CD. If iTunes sent the CD afterwards or gave you a 24 bit FLAC version, then they'd see some business.
- HsoKinees, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3In this case though, the publisher isn't making any effort or losing any profit by someone downloading a copy of what they own, the same can be done with books these days... so.... why don't you grow up? :D
- iharbinger, on 03/06/2008, -2/+5its cheap enough to not really make a difference in someones budget- unlike if you bought bottled water every time you wanted to drink something.
- selmer, on 03/05/2008, -2/+5Sure, but I really don't think most people consider downloading free music dishonest.
- 1town, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3Don't forget Higher quality, in the video section.
Hmm... let see, do I download a 720p version of Lost on bittorrent, or do I pay 2 bucks for a sub-tv quality version on iTunes. Or do i go watch an even worse quality version streaming on hulu.
These asshats need to realise they need to compete on quality, if they want to battle piracy. - madeingermany, on 03/05/2008, -1/+4I do try before buy with music and games, but I almost never watch a movie or TV show twice.
- shiftless, on 03/06/2008, -1/+4Absolutely YES. Pirated content has no DRM. Often it is the only way to go.
I refuse to pay for broken content that has DRM. - worknman, on 03/05/2008, -0/+3I think it'd be smart of them to have a service where customers pay a flat monthly fee (or whatever) and can download whatever they want in the format of their choice, at a reasonable price.
At least that way, the people who are stealing and not paying won't have any more excuses. -
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