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- luxette, on 10/10/2007, -19/+103Microsoft is going to do whatever it takes to force people to move to Vista......
- chasrome, on 10/10/2007, -19/+81Is this part of a plan to force migration to Vista?
- lukee, on 10/10/2007, -4/+62Is it just me, or does this batch of comments here seem oddly bottish?
- fiorenza, on 10/10/2007, -10/+67Good information to share, but I don't think it was malicious on Microsoft's part. More like "clueless."
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -9/+47I'm going to issue a hearty ***** YOU to those of you who tried to tell me that this update would never affect anything else.
You guys obviously have no experience with Microsoft Updates. They break the wildest *****.
Give me back my hardcore technology site that used to be called Digg, you newbs! - MasteRR, on 10/10/2007, -8/+39So an unasked, un-notified, unallowed updated is pushed my MS onto your computer and breaks things? How come I haven't heard anything about a class action lawsuit yet?
- clothmonkey, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32What codehkr said is true, but not, I think, in the way he meant
- gnug222, on 10/10/2007, -34/+63Microsoft does it to us again! It is time to learn Linux.
- Shigglyboo, on 10/10/2007, -9/+34secret updates = not cool. that old adage about "user error" doesn't hold true when computers start doing things that you didn't ask them to do. shame on them for thinking this type of thing would be ok and go unnoticed. Software develepers, please start writing Linux versions! please start porting windows apps while you're at it! If stuff like Cakewalk Sonar, Nuendo, Wavelab, Ableton Live, and VST plugins and instruments went Linux I think the whole PC music industry would follow. Once a professional group of big spenders gets onboard you get something like the Mac community. for years those things were mostly used by graphics/audio/video guys.
oh, and btw, ***** VISTA! I'm ready to ditch windows altogether for Linux. I just need the software I depend on to work on it. - screwzluse, on 10/10/2007, -7/+23Or more likely an unforeseen consequence. It's ridiculous to think that because someone can't update after a repair, they're going to automatically jump ship to Vista. I'm betting it was just an oversight that maybe rectified in the future.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18I had to repair my system a couple weeks ago and ended up manually installing every update.
- pcradio, on 10/10/2007, -15/+30or a plan to force migration to linux
- tunapez, on 10/10/2007, -5/+19I was lucky enough to have to deal with this on 2 machines a couple weeks back. After removing and reloading Updater, MS Installer, .net frameworks, deleting folders, emptying caches, terminating/restarting services I was finally referred to "Dial-A-Fix" on a technet newsgroup. It worked, but I was too tired to continue wasting more time tracking down the "how" it fixed the unknown error.
My pride was hurt, to say the least. I wonder if MS would mind reimbursing me for my time?
Hahahaha!!!!!!!!! - EPeters, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Add the obligatory OS X comment here.
- nblsavage, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19sometimes?
- leftover, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13Silly bot, your buddies are up there ^
- paddler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Actually today we upgraded 4 Windows 2000 computers to XP and none of them could do the updates until we registered the .dll files like in the article. So its not just repairs that break. These machines were running 2000 and never got the stealth downloads. Apparently Windows must still download them if they don't exist before doing any updates so the stealth continues. Seems they just forgot to to register the new files after updating them. Oops
I know, I know, why are we upgrading to XP and not Vista? I work for an agency that is forbidden to use Vista and have just been told that as of Feb. all our Windows 2000 boxes must be upgraded to XP. Only 149 left to do. Imagine my joy when I couldn't get any of them to do security updates... - PurpleZoe, on 10/10/2007, -7/+17Microsoft has become disgusting, untrustworthy and extremely suspect.
A month or two back they were called on their extremely vulnerable hackable kernel, because
a hack appeared for it, and then mysteriously disappeared as soon as the story aired through ZDnet.
Thank God for the opensource movement.
Microsoft is done. Stick a skewer in them. - Matri, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9You realize that on XP, that will do absolutely nothing?
- coredump0x01, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9The Titanic was popular too when it launched...
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Depends entirely on what you need to do and what hardware you have. Though for most of the computer illiterate anything that they would be doing in windows is just as easy if not easier with Linux, on most desktop hardware ( no your grandmother is not going to have a RAID array, but watch out for broadcom wireless ). That said I would not suggest Linux to a mostly computer illiterate user without knowing their hardware ( or suggesting they get a computer with Linux pre-installed ) and what they need to be able to do with their computer.
- plizard, on 10/10/2007, -7/+13if photoshop (not gimp) was on linux and my ***** raid card had linux drivers, i wouldn't mess with windows. actually vista wouldn't detect my raid hardware but xp did!
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Definitely that "new form of spam" :
http://digg.com/tech_news/Are_You_Seeing_this_New_ ... I reported this comment, I suggest other do as well unless MacMan07 responds. - deadlikeoscar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Oh yeah, Linux is so hard to use. My in-laws bought a camera and brought it over. It said to make sure I installed to drivers from the CD before I plugged the USB in. I said screw that and plugged it in. Linux immediately brought up a screen to begin importing the pics. Definitely more difficult to learn.
- JoshuaH, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yeah, Look at the accounts history...
- tunapez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Client computers, sporting corrupt system files and various malware infestations.
Problem is, rarely can they find/supply the disks to reinstall all 3rd party apps, so wiping and reloading is often not an alternative. Sure a wipe/reload would be faster and easier, but I don't have copies of QB2004, PictureIt 2002 or ACAD 2000 lying around.
My personal rigs are all ghosted, data stored on a slave drive. Saves hours of time. - skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -9/+13Why so they can bend you over again with the new OS? Migrate to OSX or Linux. ***** microsoft. I haven't used their garbage in 4 years, at home or at work. It's been a pleasant 4 years, that's for sure.
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4command script from the article... Here is is for those of you who haven't read it...
Step 1. Open Notepad (or any text editor).
Step 2. Copy and paste the following command lines into the Notepad window (the /s switch runs the commands silently, freeing you from having to press Enter after each line):
regsvr32 /s wuapi.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng1.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll
regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll
regsvr32 /s wups2.dll
regsvr32 /s wups.dll
regsvr32 /s wuweb.dll
Step 3. Save the file to your desktop, using a .bat or .cmd extension.
Step 4. Double-click the icon of the .bat or .cmd file.
Step 5. A command window will open, run the commands, and then close. - dsmx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I would dearly love to switch away from windows but would I be able to play the mod POE2 for BF2 on any other operating system?
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Somewhat but not really offtopic, but what is the advantage of a "hardware RAID" that uses your CPU to do the work over a pure soft raid?
- MasteRR, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8BREAKING: Amazing Video Of Ron Paul Syncing 9/11 Conspiracy Videos To His iPhone From Ubuntu! (NSFW) [Pic]
- OBKenobi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4For the same reason George W. Bush hasn't been impeached yet.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5It's the start of the end of XP. MS will withdraw support for it soon enough - they're stopping selling it early next year.
Game Over, Microsoft - superrandomguy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7the title on this submission/article is a bit backwards.
it should say "stealth windows xp update prevents repaired windows xp from updating"
the repair feature works just fine...but then it disables updates from installing. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+11Common OS users can't even learn windows in time for a new release. Not everyone is a developer/ savy linux user lizzy!
- Kratos76, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3fix is appreciated, but why not just use the command script from the article? Way less effort! Here is is for those of you who haven't read it...
Step 1. Open Notepad (or any text editor).
Step 2. Copy and paste the following command lines into the Notepad window (the /s switch runs the commands silently, freeing you from having to press Enter after each line):
regsvr32 /s wuapi.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng1.dll
regsvr32 /s wuaueng.dll
regsvr32 /s wucltui.dll
regsvr32 /s wups2.dll
regsvr32 /s wups.dll
regsvr32 /s wuweb.dll
Step 3. Save the file to your desktop, using a .bat or .cmd extension.
Step 4. Double-click the icon of the .bat or .cmd file.
Step 5. A command window will open, run the commands, and then close. - PlaceboNation, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Why is he being dugg down? Is this a sheep, mob mentality? No really. Hes trying to help you guys and for some reason people are being asses in response.
- brentscheffler, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7Like the article says, many people won't be affected by this, however, many companies and IT admins use the repair functionality on a regular basis. Especially those companies who do a lot of software/hardware testing and need to "rollback" to a previous state.
- Arghblarg, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Right now I'm in a cafe on a Toshiba notebook running Kubuntu and WinXP using VirtualBox, free vmware alternative. It's spiffy beyond belief. Linux native 100% apps would be ideal but this is a good compromise for now.
I'm in the same boat at home -- music apps and Firewire support for the Alesis firewire mixers are the main things holding me back. Alesis seems to think there's no need for Linux support, I wish other musicians would bug them and let them know there *is* demand for Linux!
Haven't tried VirtualBox at home yet, hopefully Firewire does work though. If so, my studio is going to go inside VirtualBox for sure. - iceschade, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Send me a shout or something including all the software you depend on, and i'll see what I can find.
- whappo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2fir sure!
- jrbrewin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4again. why are you repairing that many PCs? i don't think i've run repair on windows that many times in nearly 10years working in IT
- WaterDragon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Maybe it is time for another anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft.
- teknotant, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Linux is not harder, its just not windows.
I can open a text editor,copy and past some commands, and execute a script with Linux also. - MilfDaddy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"Daddy, what does formatting drive C 52% complete mean?"
- Tuscanspeed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I'm not sure this even makes sense.
- GawtMilk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What an awful analogy.
- Pewpewpew, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Metaphor... but awful indeed.
- philhatesyou, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Malicious or not, it's completely unacceptable to have to put up with this.
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