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- Contradictions, on 05/20/2009, -2/+47I predict an excessive ammount of women will want to sleep with me next week. I'm afraid it's going to have to be a first come, first serve type deal.
Hooray for self promotion. - CdnPhoto, on 05/20/2009, -0/+40by having a pre-shortage of course.
- Eoborges, on 05/20/2009, -1/+29how can you have a shortage before a shortage?
- beachtrader, on 05/20/2009, -2/+21Well then they are idiots. If you know you have this much demand almost a month ahead of time you produce more product. This is nothing but illusionary scam marketing technique to induce people to buy ASAP to later show "incredible demand" for the product.
- akatsuki, on 05/20/2009, -2/+19I hope it succeeds, it would be nice to have some real competition in the consumer space for the iPhone. I don't think it will.
- GodAImighty, on 05/20/2009, -1/+15Hopefully the Pre wont' blow up in their face like the Storm did for Verizon
- darkciti2, on 05/20/2009, -0/+13I think you're getting buried because your comment is idiotic.
- CoD4, on 05/20/2009, -0/+11This calls for a pre-emptive strike!
- lindenwold, on 05/20/2009, -1/+12I predict plenty of Pre's to go around . . .
- chockster, on 05/20/2009, -0/+9You just inspired me to look up the SciPhone for the first time.
Hahahaha. You're boasting about buying a ***** knock-off iPhone? - AlanCayce, on 05/20/2009, -3/+12Sprint kicks AT&T's ass when it comes to service plans. Sprint: 3 Pre's, 1500mins, Unlimited data = $160/Month. AT&T: 3 iPhones, 700mins, Unlimited data = $300/Month.
- TiMMY8765, on 05/20/2009, -2/+10get off the computer, grandpa. you're going to be late for bingo.
- darkciti2, on 05/20/2009, -0/+8Sounds more like "artificial hype".
- markf3388, on 05/20/2009, -0/+7You could say he is "pre"dicting a shortage!!
- darkism, on 05/20/2009, -1/+7I predict another failure to dethrone the iPhone, like the G1 and Storm before it.
- Scrappy1850, on 05/20/2009, -0/+6because compaines like to turn away sales for the sake of "hype"
- ryansmith18, on 05/20/2009, -1/+7Umm...I want it. How can you consider 200 bucks "overpriced" when compared with the phones it will compete against (iPhone, G1, blackberries)? Seems reasonable to me.
- piratearggghhh, on 05/20/2009, -1/+6I'm actually looking forward to testing out and maybe getting a Pre. It's DNA is straight from the iPhone (former Apple exec who created the ipod is head of the project) and improves on a lot of things like background apps, having a keyboard, etc.. It's been getting a lot of positive press at and since CES. It'll be hard to compete against the iPhone esp with the app store but I wouldn't write this one off as a Storm just yet.
- costumemaker, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5seems in 2009 there is a shortage of sensibility apparently.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5A pre-Pre-shortage?
- nevaseez, on 05/20/2009, -1/+6blackberry is made by RIM, a Canadian company fyi
- ManUnitdFan, on 05/20/2009, -0/+5I don't see it succeeding on the scale of the iPhone either. It has the potential to be a great device though.
- Wag3Slav3, on 05/20/2009, -1/+5So there I was trying to sell this cool phone that was actually crappy and over large and had no killer app. Oh did I mention that it was on the nations SMALLEST cellular company on the smallest network.
Guess what? It didn't save my company. - Griminald, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4"Do you even know how many factories they have?"
First you imply he doesn't know where he gets his info, then you spit out numbers you admit are just assumptions.
Like one of the first comments on this page said -- there can't be a shortage before there's a shortage. Nobody knows what "enough" Pre phones actually means. And it's less of a problem for them (including PR-wise) to judge too low and increase production to keep up than to chance overproducing. - redrabbit, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4I want one. I won't be buying one, but that doesn't mean I don't want one.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4You know how long it takes and how much money it costs to bring additional manufacturing capabilities online? It can be a huge expense if that additional production capacity was not needed after all.
- AmusedToDeath, on 05/20/2009, -2/+6What I don't really understand about the SciPhone is that it costs almost as much as an iPhone, but it's a pale piss-poor imitation of it in all aspects except design. And on top of that, you still have to pay carrier fees. Why not just buy an iPhone and unlock it - then you can use the real thing on any network you want?
- devophl, on 05/20/2009, -0/+4The iPhone is from Apple. Its sort of like the iPod. There were a lot of clones and many of them were just as good if not better than the iPod (and cheaper) but people still bought up the iPod like it was the only such device in existence. Most of the iPod's competition has since disappeared.
I believe the same is potentially in the cards for the Pre. Its essentially an iPhone clone but it does answer some of the problems the iPhone has had. But how long before Apple catches up... a week? Second, the Pre is not built by a company with the notoriety of Apple or RIM. Palm has long since lost its market share in the smartphone market and barely has much of a user base left, outside of some business users tied to Windows Mobile.
The Pre has two major disadvantages:
1) its only on Sprint... which is a second tier provider by most people's standards with a very limited existing user base that might be even interested in the Pre. To sell the Pre, Sprint has to attract users away from Verizon and AT&T. Plus, to really succeed, it needs GSM support to market to a much larger user base outside of the US.
2) its starting over in the App world. Palm OS apps were just fine for 2004 but by today's standards they just don't measure up even if you can run them on the Pre with the emulator. But this is a new OS and getting software developers to develop apps for it is going to be a hard sell... not to mention everyone else has at least a two year head start on Web OS. It will probably take a year or two before many Web OS apps are as mature as iPhone and other smartphone apps are today.
The Pre might be a very solid piece of technology but its probably two years too late to offer significant competition to Apple and RIM. I'd love for it to succeed because I think Apple needs some competition. But I see the Pre as another Zune trying to capture Apple market share and losing badly. - Twinnie, on 05/20/2009, -1/+5Pre OS looks nice but the device still has that typical ugly touch-screen device look to it, the not quite rectangular thing. Why are the touch screen phone developers still just making phones that either have attractive hardware, an attractive interface, or neither. There's already decent looking TS phones that don't look like iPhones but I seem to recall most of them are based on Windows Mobile. Nokia's often fluked out some pretty attractive hardware but they still cling on to the ugly OS design.
- drunkirish, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3Looks like Palm's marketing ploy is working prefectly.
- pktgumby, on 05/20/2009, -1/+4I just realized that "Sprint" backwards is "tnirps".
You're right, it doesn't really spell anything, but I'd bet more people use tnirps than use Sprint.... - pktgumby, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3See? Another satisified customer.
- krisrm, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3I'm not normally one to defend a CEO, but he's not really "hyping" the product. He's just saying that there's probably not gonna be a lot of phones when they launch. Big deal. You can place just about anything under the large, guesswork-centric umbrella of "Marketing," but that doesn't make it valid. Stop pretending you've got a much broader knowledge of absolutely everything than absolutely everyone, and maybe people will start paying attention to you again.
- tenardier, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3I really feel bad about it. I'm going to help. I wont buy one.
- victorycig, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3Expletive deleted much?
- assjunk, on 05/20/2009, -0/+3Well, Nintendo did try the same tactic with their Wii. For months, there was a constant Wii shortage.
- rdoger6424, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2I use trnips for stw,
- boozedrinker, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2I predict more than enough....kinda like the G1.
- mlvassallo, on 05/20/2009, -2/+4Sprint sucks.
- RumpleForeskin3, on 05/20/2009, -2/+4Well your can predict in one hand, and ***** in the other....
And now you have a Pre in one of your hands. - likwidfuzion, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2Yo dawg, I heard you like shortages. So I put a shortage in your shortage so you can say "That's What She Said" when you say "That's What She Said."
- Galaxylander, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2I read that as turnips. And more people probably do eat turnips.
- pktgumby, on 05/20/2009, -3/+5Not sure if I'd drop to the (arguably) worst carrier just for a phone. But, for those that do, supposedly Best Buy will give you the $100 rebate instantly without having to deal with the mail-in drama.
You know they're (Palm, Sprint) banking on most people not sending in those rebates and they'll be increasing their margins nicely. - pktgumby, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2Did I miss something? I thought his grandpa was referring to Palm, not RIM? Confused...
- peestandingup, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2"Worst" as in how exactly. I admit I'm not a huge Sprint fan, but their plans & network beat the ever loving hell outta that AT&T garbage they call "3G", which is basically just a supped up EDGE. And T-Mobile is just getting theirs deployed.
BTW, mail in rebates are only if you buy it in the Sprint Stores, bot everywhere else (Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc). - victorycig, on 05/20/2009, -0/+2Leo Laporte on This Week in Tech discussed this, saying it was not an artificial shortage.
Leo Laporte: So the Pre, you know you were talking about how Apple struggled with supply problems. It’s apparently that, at least one analyst says Palm’s going to have some problems, they cut back their initial order for the Pre from one million to just a few hundred thousand, not as some thought, to create an artificial scarcity but because they cannot make enough of them. Mike Arrington at TechCrunch told me that he thought that he heard that the Pre was kind of cheesy feeling in the hand and he and others now, Engadget also have broken the story that there is a pixy device which is a much smaller Pre that will come out just a few months later with an actual keyboard instead of a soft – I guess the Pre has a slideout keyboard but it will have a – it be more like the Centro, where it’s a smaller screen and a keyboard right, like a candy bar phone. And some say that’s the one you want. Both will run the new Palm WebOS. Palm’s betting the farm on this one. It would, would it be disastrous if they couldn’t get enough to market?
http://wiki.twit.tv/wiki/TWiT_192/Transcript - Scottamus, on 05/21/2009, -0/+1Totally, I think they should make a spherical touch screen device instead. Or maybe a torus.
- Elranzer, on 05/21/2009, -0/+1Nintendo doesn't have the manufacturing capabilities of Microsoft... although they seem to have more quality-control.
- robdazomba, on 05/20/2009, -1/+2Canada is part of the American continent, FYI.
- shulkman, on 05/23/2009, -0/+1Yeah... uh huh... Screw you Hesse.. I won't be buying a Pre. Why? Because I won't give up my 30 buck SERO plan and go back to the "wild and wacky we'll-pump-out-random-amounts" bills that I used to get on a standard plan. My first two years with sprint, nothing but f#$%ing nightmares, every damn month. I've been on SERO for a year and a half, and I've never had a bad bill. Not one since. And why don't I like screwed up bills? Because then, I gotta call customer dis-service, and talk to the crackhead "joe-juh" fatass on the other end for a freaking hour to get the crap straightened out.
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