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- SbooX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well people have always wanted a lawsuit to test the legal validity of the GPL. (LGPL is close enough) This might be it.
- asplodzor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5>Who is going to procescute it?
The Electronic Frontier Foundation - eff.org and hopefully others. - TrueSatan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3In reply to jasqwerty:
"You know what's creepy and unanswered?
WTF KIND OF CODE COULD AN MP3 ENCODER AND A ROOTKIT HAVE IN COMMON?!?!?!"
The rootkit is installed during the process of accepting the Sony BMG player which they require one to use to access the music on their discs via a PC. Said player turns out to be based on LAME but not in compliance with the LGPL. - _HAM_, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Guys, I'm a huge Sony fanboy, but Holy Fark have they screwed up.
If they don't change things real quick I won't be buying a PS3. It'll hurt but I'll stick to my guns. I understand the best way to 'vote' in america is to vote with your dollars.
The list for why the Sony DRM is bad is growing every hour:
1. Huge security problem.
2. Deceptive EULA.
3. Spyware (it phones home).
4. Copyright protection software that violates copyright.
5. Since it is covered under DCMA, it technically illegal to even detect it.
6. Simply bad software. Poorly written and not well designed. - spullara, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Do you think maybe that there is some LAME code in the root kit in order to identify that LAME is running much like a virus signature? Just another guess.
- mrkoje, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2***** just keeps hitting the fan for Sony. I hope the entire Sony corporation goes under.
- antiTRACE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nice - just saw this posted on boing-boing...
Dugg
Let them face the courts now - difference is, they have lots-o-ca$h, and typical Grandpa and Grandma's don't. Bastards. - Ribald_Jester, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2wait - this company is bitching about respecting intellectual property, and then goes out and uses part of the codebase for LAME without following the proper IP procedures? Sigh.
- Tufriast, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That tears it. No more Sony things for me period.
You can ***** with Apple. You can beat up muscians. You can even shut down Napster, and make ***** movies. But the day you ***** with open source is the day I start shooting you.
I'm getting a Nintendo Revolution IF I get a console. ***** Sony, and their Nihongo speaking tight asses. They are in the same boat as M$ now too. ***** not getting 1 red penny of mine ever again. - spaceninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I had to digg it, I just can't wish enough bad things on Sony at the moment. Thinking that an Xbox 360 is in my future... not a PS3
- tstm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And there is more!
http://digg.com/programming/New_features_found_from_the_Sony_DRM_Uninstaller
The Sony DRM seems to be full of all kinds of crud they don't confess being there... - BenStockwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What's ironic, is that I own a Sony VAIO desktop, which is running Linux, so it's immune to Sony's rootkits.
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You know what's creepy and unanswered?
WTF KIND OF CODE COULD AN MP3 ENCODER AND A ROOTKIT HAVE IN COMMON?!?!?!
Also, guys, before you get your panties in a twist, there's nothing illegal here, just POSSIBLE breach of contract. There is no DA that's going to prosecute this.
Whoever made LAME would have to bring a civil case against Sony, which could be interesting or bankrupting for them. - capndan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I like that they are running a list of "infected" cds. Thank god I don't like any of the music Sony is putting the rootkit on ^__^
- shovel10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1*kuch*
http://digg.com/software/Sony_Root-kit_seems_to_violate_copyright - ORBIT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Who is going to procescute it?
- c.trinity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a contest between MS and Sony.
Who does more wrong to the customer.
Who says it louder that the customer is a thief by putting those things into our PCs.
They so forget that we,the customers are the ones that give them the money to build their empires and instead they point a gun to us,with their stupid rootkit software and whatever they've got,insulting us.
According to their actions,we are all thieves and we do not deserve to have the right to use our goods without their monitoring tools.
Freaking freaks! - nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hahaha - Copyright infringement protection software is based on copyright infringement...
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@TrueSatan
Phew, that explains that. So this really has nothing to do with the rootkit, they just copied parts of player into their own media player. Much better than thinking the LAME project might not be telling us something ;-) - foreplay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if the player is based on lame and they have not complied with the lisence then sony really have fecked up here.
- antiTRACE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Oh goody, just in time for the new laws if they pass, jail time for copyright infringement, the very ***** Sony is lobbying to get passed into law.. hopefully they will uncover more of this for them AFTER the laws are passed, so they too can benefit from their own *****.
- phantom_mullet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've gotta agree with spaceninja; with all the news of Sony's used game prevention and the whole rootkit fiasco, I'm gonna pass on the PS3.
- MisterKen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Can this story get any worse for Sony?
It's like they are trying to put a gun in their mouth, but keep shooting their chin and shoulders.
This, on top of the stories about the PS3 have really made me consider ever buying their stuff again.
Even though that new walkman looks very cool. - Kneo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Presumably the technology being used to DRM these CDs was developed by some other company and then licensed by Sony. If so the license Sony has with this other company is sure to indemnify them from any legal responsibility. It is the original creator of the DRM that will be crushed by this, though the negative PR storm is sure not going to help Sony any.
- rudegeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is just to damn funny. To quote Nelson: HA HA!
- karit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ham wonder if Sony will sue MS seeing they are removing it.
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Release the Hounds!!!! The lawyers smell blood.
- oepapel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You people really need to calm down here. All Sony needs to do is to comply with it now. The LGPL is not meant to be used as a big legal stick. The first step in a case like this would be to bring the violation to Sony's attention and allow them to get into compliance. No harm, no foul. Since they didn't actually charge for the software (you got the DRM for free when you bought the CD) they can't really sue Sony for a share of the revenue gain.
Now, I don't want to be defending Sony here because I have personally disliked Sony for years but jumping on this is like giving a mass murderer a littering ticket. - Cyberdactyl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Time to dig out my old archive copy of KazzaaLite
- Incognito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0***** SONY
+DIGG
From now on I'm ripping off all their ***** - falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe PS3 will eat your cd's too ;)
- n5uxu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
- cy_kid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with semicolon.
- skizatch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It just keeps getting worse.
Bad Sony. Bad! - znxster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Excellant digg.. Sony have dugg themselves a hole.. (on the puns!)
- Badfysh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Apart from anything else, it's their arrogance that annoys me. Thinking that people will still buy their oh so great products with all these crippling restrictions is crazy. People, it's time to show them how it works. Maybe we can make an example of Sony to other companies considering the same nonsense.
- pHr34kY, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0-----------
wait i played that thing more than my gay ass xbox and it was modded i had about 50 games for it. I loved that thing. Stupid M$ but Sony sucks as well, i wish that stupid ass compangies would just get everything standerdized, .mp3 all the ***** way
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...Sounds like you've never compared an 80kbps to an 80kbps Vorbis ;). Try it - you'll be impressed. ATRAC is rather ghey, and it's a dead format because Sony would never let anyone use it without arse-mining them for $$$. It's the Sony way. ATRAC doesn't come close to Vorbis anyway. I just figured Sony would use ATRAC over MP3 because they enjoy inventing hexagonal wheels. - shovel10, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so basically they stole software and silently illegal put it on user computers. Moreover, they kept their mouth shut for 6 ***** months! Didn't report, denied it, refrused to remove it, pretended to remove it, insulted their customers as not relevant, brought out a patch that data-mines the customers that even want to go through the hassle of removing the patch while their great patch crashed and ***** up the computer meanwhile. Also taking their malware out of the stores when EMI did it before is not an option. Sony F#*#$K yourself.
heheh, gentle. - krux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Nice. I know Brenno, he's a sharp guy.
- bearokopoulos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For those who don't know what to look for on the packaging, here's a list from EFF of cd's known to have XPC on them.
http://www.illmethinks.com/illmethinks_politiq/2005/11/have_you_been_x.html - semicolon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sony really should face criminal charges over this whole rootkit thing
- barbobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"From now on I'm ripping off all their *****"
So to protest you will steal their inferior product?
Logic wins again! - SupaDawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Burn in hell Sorny. I gave up on them during the PS2's early days. The lack of them taking the north american gaming market sickened me, but not nearly as much as this does.
I WAS planning on getting a PS3 and a Xbox360... but i've changed my Mind. 360 & Revolution now. - xofc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank God I ripped that Sony CD with root kit on my mac.
It's always nice to see a hegemon (you know, the opposite of an underdog) fall down when they get arrogant, stupid, and take their customers for granted. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Regarding the question of who would sue Sony, I'm sure whoever it is would get some financial support from Sony's competitors via back channels and non-profits. The nice thing about capitalism is its tendency to eat its own screw-ups. - Angel00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Personally, SONY can go fly a kite. But it doesn't mean I'm going to get rid of my Playstation (not PSOne). I've got too many games I like on it. After all, it was made before SONY became stupid and corrupt.
Tell you the truth, I wouldn't by SONY products now if they paid me to use them. I'm boycotting them. Now all I need it a tee-shirt that says something about it. - chrisu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Heres an interesting thought.
If Sony's rootkit CDs contain GPL code, does that mean the content of the CDs become GPL licensed so we can copy the music and modify it in accordance with the GPL? :-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Awesome, Maybe now the entire Sony Corporation can go down. And thousand will be out of jobs. Awesome!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1This is old, but can't digg it enough! I hope everyone boycotts Sony from now on.
- nrbelex, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"non" of them!? GASP
- Reddwarfusa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Probably the way it only allows limited ripping, thats the part of the lame code!!
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