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- wukillabee, on 01/11/2008, -4/+60Amazon > itunes
- otakushark, on 01/11/2008, -4/+37Seems iTunes is finally going to have some serious competition.
- tendonut, on 01/11/2008, -0/+24Yes, bravo Sony. You win the format war, and now you drop DRM on music? What next? No DRM on Blu-Ray?
- bigbadgoat, on 01/11/2008, -14/+35Whoever said Sony doesn't listen to the consumer really, really needs to open their eyes.
It seems they have been listening and in the past 8 months or so have really, really turned things around and are really starting to turn peoples opinions (and their wallets) in their favor.
Good job, Sony. Try not to ***** up the good thing you got going for you now. - EatingPie, on 01/11/2008, -11/+30Can we FINALLY put the ***** rootkit thing to rest now? I'm so sick of it because it's all I ever hear about Sony.
Sony Bravia TVs suck because of that rootkit thing.
Sony Readers suck because of that rootkit thing.
Sony PS3s suck because of that rootkit thing.
Sony Camcorders suck because of that rootkit thing.
Sony Blu-Rays suck because of that rootkit thing.
Yeah, the rootkit sucked, but that didn't mean everything else Sony makes did too. They make good technology in a lot of areas -- some of the very best TVs you can buy -- even if they blew the rootkit fiasco. And now they're moving in the right direction in terms of music downloads music too, maybe we can start having intelligent conversations about other Sony technology. :-)
-Pie - mparker7410, on 01/11/2008, -4/+22Lets not forget they didn't do this until all the other major labels did, Sony pretty much had to drop DRM.
- johnpaul191, on 01/11/2008, -6/+22until they sell ALL their digital music DRM-free, they did not "officially drop DRM". it's a marketing trick to boost the Amazon store (and twist the arm of iTunes). call me when they drop all DRM.
notice nobody is selling videos without DRM, and by nobody i mean the majors. everyone knows Apple is not pro-DRM, and they never were. they don't care as long as there is plenty of content for the iPod. if this DRM thing didn't exist, they never would have had a need to create the iTMS. they really don't make much money off of it, look at their quarterly earnings reports. it was never intended to do much more than break even. it's vital to make sure the iPod/Mac had "legal digital content" available. - leontes, on 01/11/2008, -0/+15The music studios seem to really be saying ***** you to Steve Jobs and the perceived iTunes behemoth here. I wonder how many songs will be DRM free on iTunes after Macworld; my guess is quite a few, as it would be hard for them to maintain a relationship with Apple if they didn't offer similar terms as Amazon. I hope that Apple becomes completely DRM free, first for music, which seems likely and then for movies, which will take another few years, I bet.
- j1ggy, on 01/11/2008, -4/+18I've been downloading MP3s for over 11 years and Sony is just beginning to sell them??
- SquigglyP, on 01/11/2008, -1/+14I must have missed something... Did Sony recently hire some sane people to make these decisions?
- j1ggy, on 01/11/2008, -7/+18They haven't been listening for the last decade though.
- inactive, on 01/11/2008, -7/+18Are you ***** kidding? Everybody knows Apple is not pro-DRM? What planet do you live on?
- MindTrigger, on 01/11/2008, -3/+13I just hope Amazon makes some MASSIVE improvements to their service. While it's functional, its far from a pleasure to use, and they are probably losing sales with the search system they have.
- gfisher2, on 01/11/2008, -2/+11This is great, but I still prefer the original non-DRM way of buying music - buying the CD. Next step for Amazon MP3: lossless encoding and downloadable artwork. That said, congrats to all involved for putting one more nail in the DRM coffin.
- MScrip, on 01/11/2008, -0/+9Which camcorders? Sony's pro cameras are great.
- MindTrigger, on 01/11/2008, -0/+8"Douche of the Day"
- imcquill, on 01/11/2008, -1/+9Hopefully we can get some of this outside of the US someday.
- BeeWolf, on 01/11/2008, -1/+9First they insisted that iTunes have DRM because they didn't want you to pirate music.
Now they are dropping DRM because they are afraid of having only one outlet for their wares--iTunes. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -1/+8I believe Sony are just following a positive trend for consumers because they know their DRM model will not work much longer. Apart from that, what else are they doing that is so great for consumers? The numerous PS3 price drops came at the price of backwards compatibility and the fact that they were just not moving units at higher prices. Still not entirely happy with Sony.
- triplehelix, on 01/11/2008, -1/+8like what you did when you upgraded from VHS to DVD? get real. stick with lower res DVD, or cough up the money for an upgrade. nobody is forcing you to do anything.
- bahlul, on 01/11/2008, -1/+8amazon is the best
- hellbent88, on 01/11/2008, -0/+6***** the RIAA!
- jbond, on 01/11/2008, -0/+52008.
- Apple announce that iTMS is 100% DRM free.
- Amazon drop prices, iTMS drops prices, Amazon drops prices.
- 192Kb VBR reaches $0.25 per track by year end. Lossless drops to $0.50 by year end.
- Amazon announces "One World Price" Opens store to global customers.
- MP3Sparks finds a way for customers to give them money. Does deal with Paypal.
- Despite all this, overall track sales and CD Sales continue to fall. P2P sharing in all it's forms continues to rise.
- Record Biz survives another year. (Except for EMI which goes specactularly bust) - mjworthey, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5I'm sure that Sony does make good products. But I don't buy them because I found the rootkit (and other actions by Sony) so deplorable that I can no longer give money to that company.
- evildeadxsp, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5What's wrong with Amazon? Most of their music is cheaper - it's free of DRM - Save a credit card and it's a one click purchase to download (sometimes worries me, since it's too easy) - all the music automatically saves into any file you choose, AND automatically appears in iTunes. And after each purchase you get recommendations of other albums and can sample every song. Seems pretty functional to me.
- aliguana, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5maybe, if you live in a part of the world where you can actually buy MP3s from Amazon (ie the US)
- Zettabyte, on 01/11/2008, -1/+6Then Fox jumps to HD-DVD
- BurgerDST, on 01/11/2008, -0/+5I've used both, and I prefer Amazon. Just my opinion. I'm comfortable with shopping on Amazon for other stuff. itunes does indeed have some competition.
- Sairgem, on 01/11/2008, -7/+12"everyone knows Apple is not pro-DRM"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa..ha......h...
*inhales*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - dm33, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4Record companies should be sued for collusion.
They have all conspired against iTunes because they want more pricing flexibility??? They were not happy with $1.29 at iTunes and fought to get $0.89 at Amazon? WTF
Still seems like they're hurting no one but themselves. Once the price has been set this low they won't be able to raise it. Amazon is the big winner. Apple doesn't care. Labels are the losers. - MScrip, on 01/11/2008, -1/+5Then go ahead and buy the CD. A 256k MP3 for 89 cents is fine with me.
- MacParrot, on 01/11/2008, -1/+5Wow! Aren't you clever? Wait, no you're just another scummy thief. Sorry, what was I thinking?
- WhereAmI, on 01/11/2008, -0/+4Alot of these people didn't even have the rootkit, I don't know what their complaints are. I thought we were all suppose to not buy RIAA music. I guess thats what they fet.
WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE WITH ME? - dungbeetle, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3Sony infects many video games with their SecuRom garbage that does nothing but annoy and keep legitimate video game owners from playing the games they bought. Until Sony gets rid of that they will still on my blacklist.
- SUPERZERO, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3There's one more thing I really want from Amazon. I'm all about using the "complete my album" feature in iTunes. It's a great way to sample an album and feel like that I've already paid toward a full purchase should I make it. Does anyone else use that feature?
- Nepenthes, on 01/11/2008, -0/+3Yes!! We need Amazon MP3 in the UK - Even if it is at twice the US cost as usual
- bdbr, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2I don't remember what the exact number of iTunes-purchased songs on iPods were, but it was tiny (less than 10 songs, IIRC). iTunes is mainly used to rip CDs and put them on iPods.
- renegadeafk, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2Aren't EMI the ones selling DRM-free tracks on iTMS?
- mjworthey, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2I use Amazon, and I find its interface decent, but it's true that the search needs to be improved.
And it could really use a Linux client. - dm33, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2iPod is hardly nothing. Its clearly the best set of mp3 players out there. No comparison
- FKnight, on 01/11/2008, -1/+3Way to prove that DRM is necessary. Good job.
- bdbr, on 01/11/2008, -0/+2- Apple announce that iTMS is 100% DRM free.
- Amazon drop prices, iTMS drops prices, Amazon drops prices.
- 192Kb VBR reaches $0.25 per track by year end. Lossless drops to $0.50 by year end.
...its nice to dream. More likely, prices aren't going to change at all. And iTMS will probably drag their feet in becoming 100% non-DRM...if nothing else just due to the effort required to re-encode their entire catalog. - zoziw, on 01/11/2008, -1/+3Good news! They seem to be getting back on track after the last couple of years.
- mjworthey, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Is this part of the Googlezon plan?
- Septimus, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1US is the world to these licensing companies. It's not Amazons fault, but they aren't helping.
- bdbr, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1I agree. We should now hate Sony for the massive amount of DRM they piled on Blu-Ray.
The other thing to consider is that Sony/BMG isn't really affiliated all that much with Sony Electronics. Sony/BMG is the one you have to forgive for the rootkit. Of course, they still sell awful music, just like the other big labels. - bdbr, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Well its not as if they didn't contract with other "outlets for their wares". The problem was that only one worked with iPods. iPods dominated the MP3 player market (and Apple ensured that no other resellers would work with the iPod), so all the other resellers became irrelevant.
They probably started out with the illusion that Napster and others would really compete with iTunes. - inactive, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Amazon broke the ***** wide open. I knew that the minute they got into it without DRM that DRM was dead. I expect a Digg lovefest for Amazon. They made it easy to get cheap and DRM-free music. What, exactly, do we have left to complain about? OK OK, it could be a bit cheaper but really, if you think about it, do you really find more than 50 tracks a year worth adding to your permanent collection? Can you afford $50 a year to encourage the best of the best?
If this still doesn't work for you then dig down deeper for just independent labels. They exist, you'll find em. However they aren't much cheaper, if at all. This may finally signal detente betwixt music lovers and the RIAA. I am still as likely to download songs but now I'm MUCH more likely to go over and pay for the ones I really like. - renegadeafk, on 01/11/2008, -0/+1Yeah anything above 256 there won't be any noticable difference.
- assassinave, on 01/11/2008, -4/+5Do any of you bother to remember that its not Apple that wants to control DRM, its the labels. If a label were to ask Apple to sell non-DRM music do you think they'd refuse? What a bunch of baloney for you PC loving Sansa bastards
Secondly, I have bought albums from Amazon mostly lately, but they hardly have the collection of digital music iTunes has. Until they have that they are still no real threat to the business that iTunes is doing.
People say Apple has a monopoly on downloaded music and they make more money than others do right? Of course, when tens of millions of people across the world own an iPod, Apple has what they call "leverage" kids for demanding more. Amazon quite simply operates off volume. Hence they can take a smaller portion, but if their intellect only extends as far as the Kindle, i'd rather continue to pay for songs off iTunes, if it means appealing products will continue to roll of the line. -
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