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- davidmwilliams, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27As a 2Clix customer, I am disappointed by this action by 2Clix. I am a Whirlpool forum user and I think it is a terrific site, and that Simon Wright deserves all the kudos he can get for having created it.
- dwaton, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23Anyone interested in the forum comments, they are below
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=628356
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=479484 - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Now they'll sue digg.
- chingy1788, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Why doesn't Microsoft Sue Digg and many other sites that say Microsoft software is buggy?
2Clix is a disgrace to Australian Software Companies, Sueing against freedom of speech - BraydenH, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18Ridiculous behaviour! Good luck Whirlpool!
- dwaton, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18If anyone wants to donate to a worthy cause to assist.
http://whirlpool.net.au/faq-wp.cfm#4.11 - t3hX, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15180k WP users suddenly annoyed at a company can't be good!
- AzzX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13After reading the Statement of Claim it looks as though 2Clix are just upset about a few negative opinions on their software. Trying to remove freedom of speech with a court order is lower than low.
The community aspect of any website cannot be subjected to this sort of insanity. - seanslater, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Long time Whirlpool member here, and I can tell you right now that I'll never touch 2clix piece of software again. I can't imagine it's a great idea to alienate your local geek community on one of the largest forums in Australia; it's those users who help sell/setup software and they just went and pissed them all off in one hit.. nice work.
I hope it gets thrown out of court and they pickup the tab for Simon's legal fees. That'll teach them. - DD32, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Interesting... Whats the go with this not reaching the front page?
100 diggs within the first 2 hours, 200 within 12 hours, nearly 60 comments... hell i've seen things on the front page with less than that recently... - prdgy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Whirlpool is an excellent source for information. It has a large active knowledgeable community, most of which are from Australia. I think 2Clix have shot themselves in the foot, trying to sue a community based forum.
- neverhadachoice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Congratulations, retards. Before you had people's bad experiences of your software published in front of a few thousand people. Now you've pissed everyone off and it's exposed to millions of people.
A glorious, resounding "gg". - webbj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10One can only hope that the legal precedent that is set is in favour of "freedom of online speech" and not that of a company of any size silencing public opinion and discussion.
I suspect 2clix has underestimated the weight and support that whirlpool has behind it if they thought they could frighten or force them into submission by a threat of legal action. - thegame87, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10What a joke! 2Clix, who the hell is that? Publicity stunt, bunch of morons. Hope Simon Counter sues for defamation of character.
Another company with no clue. Bunch of morons, what ever happen to freedom of speech? - seanslater, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10And for the record, these are the characters suing Whirlpool..
http://www.2clixsoftware.com/ - dread73, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Maybe if 2clix spent some of their customers money on actually making a product that works rather than malicious lawsuits designed to stifle criticism of their non-working product, then maybe, just maybe they wouldn't have all this negative publicity. Some of those horror stories posted by their victims is amazing...2 years and still their accounting package doesn't even balance a trial balance? Why hasn't one of their customers sued 2clix by now?? I know I would have!
Good Luck Simon and Co ;) - JB_HiFi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Screw 2Clix, sounds like ***** ***** software! Go Simon!!
- blindmelon1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10The company I worked for had a terrible experience with 2clix. I hope whirlpool comes out victorious in this battle. !
- mick33142, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9The current Google results can't be good either. Just type 2clix into Google. Please everyone who can donate to Whirlpool/Simon to help defend this. This isn't just about Whirlpool. It's about the rights of users of a public forum to post their opinion about a product or service received.
- thecraw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Considering the owner of the product also promoted their software on the same thread it seems more then ludicrous that such a claim could be taken seriously. People have stated their own opinions based on user experience or comments made by users.
All the best to Simon and Phil. If anything I think the outcome will be a positive for WP, however some heartache to get there. - HelloMrNewman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8As an accountant who was recently asked about 2clix by a customer, I said I'd have a look into it. Well I now have, and won't be letting them come out and demonstrate their wares.
- digi7al64, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8dugg - Great work to the marketing staff at 2Clix - once only those that had used your products thought it was crap. Now everybody who reads this thread... or the countless new articles... or whirlpool will now your product is crap.... and even if is wasn't you could have simply replied to the threads on whirlpool and like a great company seeked to assist your clients in achieving the maximum potential for your product. Instead you tried to hide those threads, have them removed and when that didn't happen you went to taking legal action and suing people for money.
I can only hope that those who bought your products to find them defective have the balls to sue your company into the ground for misrepesentation. - whirlpooler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Any publicity is good publicity?
This is an awfully risky way to test this maxim, 2Clix.
They have already cleared some of the decks so this might be one final grasp at survival before they disappear off to their Platinum One mothership in Vanuatu. - hseldon2000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8and their recently spawned identity:
http://www.p1software.com.au/ - s3ndigga, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Really bad way to go about increasing customer confidence in the software
Rather than going out of your way to set things right with your customers, just shut them up
Good work... - KennyTPK, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8From what I have read if anyone should be getting sued it is 2clix...
- lestweforget, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8What next, being sued for talking in our sleep.
- slangcomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8pretty poor form on behalf of the software company.......suing a public discussion forum....hell some of the posts they themselves made on the site, they used it as their own suport avenue for their customers, but then go and take whirlpool to court for negative comments posted by users.......utter tripe.
Good Luck Simon with all of this. - charithjperera, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7suing whirlpool is just low-dog, whatever they wanted to remove is all over the web now and this is just going to make it worse.
Good luck Simon ;) - Freman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I wish Siman and Phil best of luck with this stupidity.
2Clix doesn't have a hope of getting the topics removed perminently tho - it's in google cache for starters, for finishers I've made copies of everything so if it disappears from whirlpool, I'll make sure it finds it's way elsewhere. - cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+7This is so true. The Statement of Claim (http://whirlpool.net.au/img/article/2clix/soc.pdf) looks like they're upset by a few bad reviews and customers trying to warn others to stay away. Microsoft would have sued half the Internet over its bad reports regarding Vista if they had to follow the same action (not that I agree though, Vista is brilliant).
The comments made were based on actual experience with 2Clix. If they can't stand the heat, they should stop selling crappy software. The Whirlpool forums have always been very good to gauge opinions on products, it would be a real shame if 2Clix would win (though I really doubt they will). - tak3n, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7This type of behavior is shocking! 2Clix couldnt handle the heat because of all the customer complaints.
They could have listened to the users but instead they try to shut them up!
i will never buy a 2Clix product, and im sure alot of other people wont too.
word is spreading fast. 2clix you have dugg ur own hole. - PWallbank, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7They may well have good legal advice on this, but from a business point of view this is a huge mistake. Even if they get damages, apologies and the deletion of the threads in point they've bought attention to the problems in their product and now have the appearance of ignoring customers and being litigation happy.
I imagine this will be across all the newspapers this afternoon or tomorrow.
Not a good look. - bigshow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7So the software doesn't do what it is supposed to - users post as much, company doesn't like it. Sues the volunteer who started the community.
What have 2clix got to hide? The truth?
This is not the way to do it. - Haydio, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Donate!
- darkzlevin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7whirlpool is probably the best australian source of information for newbies and professional in I.T.
obviously 2clix are stupid to think they can get away with suing a public forum that is open for all. - GhostSniper, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8*****.
- Jarryd. - t3hX, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Looks like the only one to get "0wnd" is you, 2 minutes, and already at -2.
- anthonywr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The title does not contain the word Ubuntu, nor is it an Apple product.
- Gameguy10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Good Luck Simon, this is just ridiculous and I hope this company burns.
- rhysbushell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6was looking at getting some new accounting software too.. oh well ... Boycott.
- daurnimator, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I think that if this goes to the courts, we will finally have precedent for free speech on the net (though this is not a defamation case.. I don't know how far it can go)
If this case is lost (in court), the net will have to change a hell of a lot.....
Go support whirlpool in the case! - seanslater, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Well in a day or two Google will have indexed this Digg story and no doubt it'll show up on the first page of Google search results too... (which is why 2clix are bitching so hard.. because anyone who Googles up their company name will find the threads complaining about how awful their software is).
- Own3dYou, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This is just plain stupid. It's a forum, people are entitled to their opinions. Do you see Telstra suing Whirlpool every time someone posts a Telstra horror story?
- KennyTPK, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5So they sue as they think some posts in a forum are going to have a negative effect on their sales. Yet now pretty much everyone on WP will hear about them and I am sure most will avoid them for the sole fact that they have sued. The comments made were opions so I fail to see how they could be false (how can an opinion be false...), malicious perhaps but that it certainly pushing it. In any case if statements were made as fact and were incorrect I am sure the WP mods would of handled it without any problems if requested. Sueing is going way too far.
Whirlpool should win this case no problems at all but 2Clix deserve the bad publicity they are going to get. - OddAngryShot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5LOL Looks like you work for 2Clix.
2Clix are going to get hurt from this.
Most times small forums like Whirlpool have a big following,
you guys should have expected a major reaction from WPers. - Danbigs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Now on front page of news.com.au
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22405674-2,00.html - maccainthehole, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Really not a bright idea to sue when Whirlpool makes it's Legal Threats policy so clear: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=WP_LegalThreats
"• Publication of a news story on the front page of the WP News site, or a prominently placed announcement thread, summarising the legal threats, who has made them and why;
• Revocation of the representative status of any ISP or non-ISP Representatives indulging in such threats;
• Penalty boxing of any and all accounts associated with the company indulging in such threats;"
If any unhappy customers needed another reason to dump 2clix, I think they may have got it! - OddAngryShot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Dont budge an inch to the hosers at 2Clix.
- andrewcsayer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I just called to let them know they are idiots. You can too.
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