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- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Both companies can learn things from each other without merging; I'd much rather have open market competition than that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+37"Grow up."
Someone who enjoys dick and fart jokes and "OMG we have STRIPPERS in the RADIO studio!" is telling someone else to GROW UP?
*laf* - Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16That is the good thing about satellite radio is there are MANY different channels. Don't like it don't listen. I understand Martha Stewart has a fine channel on Sirius...you know what I'd never know I don't listen, because I could give 2 craps what she has to say. See how that works?
- DanY, on 10/12/2007, -10/+25This is just talk to boost Sirius stock, Mel knows what he is doing when it comes to marketing. The government will not allow this to happen.
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15DanY, the government has been allowing more anticompetitive mergers to happen.
Satellite radio as an industry has plenty of competition - podcasts, terrestrial radio, terrestrial digital radio, Internet radio. You can already buy music from some mobiles. - TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18that would be like AMD and intel merging....WTF?!?!?!
the merger I'd like to see....
Netflix and Gamefly - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Isn't XM paying Oprah $55 Million to do a half hour show once a week featuring her phone call to Gale King! You can't beat that kind of entertainment value!
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15"Is Sirius that good? I'll have to check it out,"
I have both XM and Sirius and I greatly prefer Sirius. - midgetpets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14While it would definitely be cool to get all the programming of both XM and Sirius as opposed to just one, something tells me that if they did merge, I would be getting a letter in the mail:
"Due to higher operating costs/price of gas/Jessica Simpson's new sex tape, we have decided to triple your monthly subscription price. Thanks!" - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Opie and Anthony fans are often trying to get Howard fans into a fight, but Howard fans don't seem to give a ***** about opie fans. Why don't you just go listen to opie and be happy? I don't give a *****.
- bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@holzp:
Uh... HD Radio and satellite radio have almost NOTHING in common. The main reasons for satellite are:
a) Less (if not nonexistent) commercials
b) More channel selection, with more varied music and talk
c) No FCC oversight
Audio fidelity is very far down the list. - modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Wow, some common sense in this whole battle. If the 2 merged it would make satellite radio a must have given the properties they have to combine. In the end satellite radio doesn't really need competition in the market given it's essentially already competing against regular radio and the internet. As it is I found there were things of interest from both providers, but going with one left you out in the cold for things on the rival network.
- andreo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I have both XM and Sirius also. XM at home (XM ready stereo) and Sirius in the car.
I like both. Though I will say that I like the way Sirius handles music more, and love the way XM handles comedy. I can find myself listening to Sirius talk stations longer then I can XM. But there are some things on Both that I can't find on the other.
If they do somehow merge I can only hope that they keep the good things about each others service (such as keeping the XM equipment which I think is better then Sirius receivers) and loosing the bad things (such as broadcasting games over other stations on weekends). - Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I see this as a bad thing. Look what happened to G4 and Tech TV. They took the worst of each channel and put them together. That channel is just unwatchable now.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7They're still in competition with terestrial radio. Additionally, it's entertainment, not a necessity -- ClearChannel's more of a monopoly than any XM/Sirius merger ever could be.
Terrestrial/HD radio still have one huge advantage: They're free. Terrestrial radio is still eating satelite's lunch, as far as listener numbers go. - embarkadero, on 10/12/2007, -9/+16XM DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE -Kanye
- kuj007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Jessica Simpson has a new sex tape???
I'll triple dog digg u just for that! - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I don't understand this "hoo hoo, tell em fred" crap. Fred never talks.
- sjbdallas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Realistically, they know there is a breaking point in a monthly fee where people would choose to go with free radio over satellite. It's not realistic to think they'd raise their price when they would end up just losing customers over it.
Also keep in mind that part of what causes them to lose money now is their cost of getting a new customer. Since they're competing with eachother they have to spend a ton on advertising and various promotions to remind folks that there are 2 possible services out there to choose from. If they combine they can cut some of that cost and reduce their spending -- making them more profitable without raising prices. - ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -8/+14Is Sirius that good? I'll have to check it out, but I don't see any reason why all Sirius fans need to digg down someone if they are trying to give some insight into why XM may be worth a listen? I like Howard and can only assume that he has gotten better since the move.
Digg me down if I say something ridiculous, wrong, or false. But why digg me down for saying I pay for the system that came with my car? - Wander2000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7They both cost the same now.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12hoo hoo, tell em fred, more howie math. and that was an extra $1 and only for a short time. Get your facts straight. They are simulcast on XM at the same time and they didn't go because they stunk on XM, it was the smart move. go back to howard and his lies.
- mariowario, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8a merger means customers will have their subscription charges jacked up..cause now there is no competition to see who can offer the best deal for their customers..this is not good.
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Is a monolopy of a product that doesn't turn a profit still a monolopy?
- spiritamx79, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11"Yes and the fact Sirius has out sold them 4 quarters in a row proves it."
Sirius tracks subscribers differently than XM. XM counts current listeners. Sirius counts total active, meaning if there is a new car on a car lot, just sitting there with Sirius included, its counted even though no body is listening to it. - Ryokurin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Im tired of this being repeated. There is no difference in how either of them count subscribers. Look at their 10-K statements.
Subscriber Count (taken from XM 10-K). We consider subscribers to be those who are receiving and have agreed to pay for our service, either by credit card or by invoice, including those that are currently in promotional periods, as well as XM activated radios in vehicles for which we have a contractual right to receive payment for the use of our service. Radios that are revenue generating are counted individually as subscribers. Approximately 12% of our subscribers at year end were in promotional periods with sponsored accounts. A change in our methodology of counting subscribers that excluded subscribers in promotional periods with sponsored accounts would delay the timing of the recognition of the subscriber until the end of the promotional period, which is generally 3 months. Subscribers with delinquent account balances are included in the subscriber count until such time as the radio is deactivated for non-payment in accordance with our normal procedures.
(Taken from SIRIUS 10-K)Our subscriber totals include subscribers under our regular pricing plans, as well as subscribers currently in promotional periods; subscribers that have prepaid, including payments received from vehicle manufacturers for prepaid subscriptions included in the sale or lease of a new vehicle; and active SIRIUS radios under our agreement with Hertz.
Basically both companies count the OEM units from the vehicle manufacturer once they are pre-paid for by that vehicle manufacturer. There is NO, difference in counting between these two companies. - eean, on 10/12/2007, -15/+20lol @ Howard listener telling someone to grow up.
edit: bah Lyph4 beat me to it. :) - steger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7RAMMONNEE, Sirius's units are the size of howie's ego.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+14XM has MUCH better music channels. I'd pay extra for just XMU and Lucy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11it's hilarious how every comment about people liking O&A is getting dugg down.
O&A > stern
loved the comment about strippers in the studio - Sagura, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Mel Karmazin is just talking out of his @$$ again.
This is never gonna happen. - modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7The thing is, they aren't really competing in the same sense as other mediums. Compare it to cable and satellite. They're essentially selling you the same product and channels with some added perks. With Sirius and XM they both have totally unique shows on their services, like baseball or football. This is irritating if you are a sports fan and want an all in one solution. You instead have to buy 2 services and pay 2 monthly fees for the ability to listen to sports. It's not good for consumers to have a division like that that makes you choose one or the other.
- jb347, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Competition is always a good thing for the customer...I would hate to see them merge.
That being said I'll just say I'm a Sirius subscriber and I'll never go back to "regular" radio. I don't have any basis to bash XM, however, I partly chose Sirius because they offer a lifetime subscription. Sure, it takes a while to pay off, but as an added bonus they now allow you to port your lifetime subscription to a new tuner. - chris4404, on 10/12/2007, -14/+18Yes and the fact Sirius has out sold them 4 quarters in a row proves it.
- ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8XM has gone through many program changes (for the better) in the last two years. Your bashing an old product if you are saying you haven't subscribed in the last two years.
- MrMysterious, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15Please no!
I had XM radio the day that it went live and switched the Sirius about two years ago.
Sirius far and away offers better content and more value for the extra $3 a month. - NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I already have a lifetime subscription so go for it. I wont be paying extra anyway.
- cryptonight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Howard and O&A elitists:
I listen to O & A (xm came with my car) and I've heard people from both camps complain about the other. Most of you are the same, it just so happens that xm may have came with your new car or you got sirius as a gift. Some of the content is the same with similar bits. Both groups of fans bitch out one another with ***** claims just because fellow listeners do it. Who cares, get over yourselves. People listen to who they want. People treat it as a matter of right and wrong when its just a matter of taste. - 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8lol, OnA went on FM because they sucked on XM... More Howie Logic.... CBS came BEGGING to XM for OnA because they have a better show... They had better ratings than howie when they worked for the same company. If the CBS-XM deal is so stupid, Why does ol HooHoo keep saying he's gonna do the same thing, then his good buddy Mel tells him no because the stock bottomed out, and he has to make up some BS story about why its so bad? Why has that happened TWICE now?
What is so great about Howie's show on sirius? Do people have sex on the radio? HOLY *****! RADIO PORN!
Bottom line is, the "revolution" is over, it never happened.. Howie went to the money, does a half assed show, takes off every friday and flies up to the hamptons in the Howiecopter..
"digg.com home of nintendo fanboys, mac fanboys and apparently stern zombies" - roadkillrampage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have both XM and Sirius and its a toss-up to me what is better. I have had XM since shortly after they started and I have had Sirius for about 2 years.
In the beginning XM had music and other programming that you couldn't find any other station playing. They did not play the same old Corporate programmed music. Some examples of that were "On The Rocks" and "SpecialX". They eliminated these and you can only get them online.
XM has gone further away from their on-air personalities and gotten closer to some of what you can hear on "traditional radio" they still are far better then the "traditional radio" stations. - culbeda, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13"Opie and Anthony are definitely a good alternative to Stern. I haven't heard Stern since the move, but O&A make my commute entertaining every day."
So they're a good alternative to someone you haven't heard since he moved to Sirius... - g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -5/+930,000 O&A fans can't be wrong.
lmao - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Hello 2005, this is 2006 now. There's a reply button.
- Alphateam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I have found MANY fine bands by listening to Left of Center on Sirius. It is good to expand your horizons as opposed to listening to the same crap you listen to every day.
- JorgeGonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4When OnA go to commercial, they play classic or recently-aired segments, so we don't get any more commercials than we normally did.
- Egress99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why does every mention of XM or Srius boil down to Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern?
BTW, Big Ass Card Holder 2312....buddah! - 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6you get an erection from listening to strippers on the radio... wow.. kinda lame
- g30ph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Unwatchable except for the 2 hours of TNG every night. Even though I've seen ever episode 100 times, I still like my daily dose of TNG.
- xzitony, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3O&A suck so bad that you can see them on Leno Dec 21st. Watch em suck on national TV AGAIN...
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Having sirius in a car on a car lot is not counted because it is not active. Once the car is sold and the buyer activates it then it is counted.
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