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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40..... I remember a time when digg was for "geeks"...
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24sorry guys, the server should've been upgraded yesterday but due to some database problems it didn't. I am contacting the admins at this moment. Again, I am sorry
- Terc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27Maybe he actually CARES about what people think, and is a little too trusting that ***** like you won't bother him.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19Hey pirana, that's a valid inquiry. Anyone can call me...it is not a big deal for me. However, privacy of my members is another issue. Take a look at www.shuzak.com; the only thing necessary to register is your email. Unlike most other social networks, Shuzak does not require location, zip code, etc. In other words, I don't even ask people to trust me...because they shouldn't.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Groups are remarkably intelligent, and are often smarter than the smartest people in them. Groups do not need to be dominated by exceptionally intelligent people in order to be smart. Even if most people within a group are not especially well-informed or rational, it can still reach a collectively wise decision. However, it is true what you stated. If every user solely depends on the other user for their own decisions then the group can, instead of becoming more intelligent, actually become dumber. As many people have observed, this is sometimes the case with Digg; Diggers often simply Digg stories because their friends did too.
I tried to eliminate this problem on Shuzak. On Shuzak, people vote on the opinions of people rather than the topic itself. The worth of any topic on shuzak depends on the collective votes received by individual replies within a thread. It is a very democratic system. It wouldn't matter if I or Kevin Rose posted a topic, what would matter is if the masses contributed something substantial to it. My aim was to make sure that on Shuzak, everyone's opinion holds equal water. We will see how this works out as the overall activity on Shuzak improves. - pirana0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16It's not that, it's just not smart to have it there if this gets quickly spread, like getting to the front page of Digg. Someone would eventually point it out. So now that I have drank my coffee and thought about it just bury my comment.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14With tons of social networking sites plaguing the net, you would think it is time to stop creating one more. On the contrary, I think the reason for the sudden emergence of these networks is directly due to the fact that there isn't a set market leader, and also because many niches haven't yet been filled. The problem with the current trend, though, is that most of these networks are targetting the same age group, the boobless teen. The idea is that teens have endless amount of time to waste once on the network. What these networks overlook is the fact that these teens already have MySpace and other established communities to show off their colors. As I mentioned in the interview, While Digg, Reddit and Delicious do a great job at social bookmarking, they are not particularly good places for meeting like minded people for networking purposes. For example, I hardly know anything about the people on my friend's list. There is a need for a social network for geeks.
- Shawnosaurus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Haha typo David... it's girl. Not girls plural. Her name is Wanda and in about a month you will be able to send her money at her shrine site or download the omglovewanda version of linux
- 2gunnZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"The wisdom of crowds is often wasted" or you could say, the wisdom of crowds is often a waste.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10This is the most embarassing moment, actually. I am extremely disappointed at my performance. I should've anticipated the Digg effect. For anyone interested, here is a link to a screenshot of the frontpage. I know, it isn't much:
http://biohazard.googlepages.com/mockup6-blank.jpg - Macuyiko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"It is possible to calculate the IQ of a mob: it is always equal to the IQ of the least intelligent of the mobsters divided by the number of people in the mob" -- Terry Pratchett ;-)
- GopherChucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Dude, I just think it's awesome you're in these comments, defending yourself and making calm rational points.
"Why shouldn't you?"
Why not indeed.
Dugg for great justice! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I feel sorry for the girls on that social network.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12We don't need more social networks for niche markets!!!! People join social networks like MySpace because they want to get laid. If I want to virtually hang out with geeks, I can read the comments on Digg. How many softcore pornographic pictures of underage girls does Shuzak have? Compare that to millions on MySpace, and see where geeks will go.
Also, 2004 called. It wants its "$made_up_nonsense_word: a social network for $random_demographics" back. - jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I am so sorry. I am working with the hosting company to shift this immediately to a better server.
- navaburo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6jawadshuaib, wow. I don't think I have ever seen someone defend their product like that on digg! I like it, signing up as soon as the site returns to consciousness...
- cube5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6And its down...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5this is essentially the demographic duggspace would target, and basically duggspace will lose because these niche sites will have already been up and formed a following.
There can really only be one social site for each niche, anything that comes after suffers the fate of a monopoly. - stonedgeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Great! A social network without girls. I'm there!
- Urgo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Someone call his home phone (see the buried first comment) and ask when the site will be back up. =]
- p0ss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yeah, i would have joined, just to see what its like, but with the site down i will probably never see it again..
Better hope it gets another front page or it may have missed its chance.
Surely if there was only one lesson to be learnt from myspace it would have been the issue of scalability, a problem shuzak seems not to have overcome. - BlackAdderIII, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Well, it appears to be settled - digg just kicked shuzak's ass. :(
- kennybain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Good luck with the site. Dugg! and bookmarked so I can come back when you get your database problems ironed out.
Everyone else - cut him a little slack, add a temporary bookmark, and check back later. If you don't like it then, forget about it! - Ricapar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11Isn't Digg the social network for geeks?
- battleroyalex, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3wow that was not a good start for this site
- ScottZed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3None of us is as stupid as all of us.
- urbancommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@firemillen2
What kind of drugs are you on? I am against blog spam, but don't bury a story about something useful. - RobDeBob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hahahah, "Shuzak?" I think I recall getting that as one of many results using the Web 2.0 name generator that was frontpaged yesterday...
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I am in talk with the hosting company at this moment. The problem is that two of my other articles reached Digg's frontpage earlier, and that crippled their server. I am really very sorry about this.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Thank you for the support. I have asked my hosting provider to upgrade my account to more powerful servers. Please give this site a few more minutes and it will be back up.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Future plans for Shuzak in case anyone is interested:
“Self-organization” and “Ability to rewire” are qualities we attribute to AI, but are currently only possible with social software. Instead of repeatedly searching for interesting topics and communities on Shuzak, the system could make suggestions based on your profile and past activity - It works great for dating sites, and it will work great for Shuzak. Collaborative intelligence is increasingly becoming the trend in web applications. The benefits extend to advertisers as well as the users. We are looking forward to implementing features involving collaborative filtering as the overall activity on Shuzak grows to a certain critical level. - jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I am so sorry. This is really embarassing. Diggers seem to have crippled my host's servers. I am in talk with them right now.
- DarknessGP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3and the actual site has already been hit with the digg effect. You'd think these websites would wise up and get server upgrades.
- jawadshuaib, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2lol. The site was available for some population (I wanted to dampen the load). Anyway, it should work for everyone now. This really sucks, I know. My person apology to everyone...I really wanted to spark some discussion on the issue of social networks here as I have written much about it in the past (jawad.shuzak.com). Oh well, maybe next time.
- smacksy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2pirana0: "Sorry man, but damn don't put your home phone number on the internet."
If you believe that's his actual home number I can give you my home number on the moon, but don't tell anyone.
And please, ppl, link to the dam site instead of the blog talking about the link to the site. Jesus. - detrate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Shuzak Attack?
- SkyFire360, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server."
Oh, it's made FOR geeks, not made BY geeks ;) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except, the submitter is the curator of the site... and you probably would have called spam then.
Sounds good, but, get it up. - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually I think something like this is the exact type of site that could soar.
Compare it to dating sites out there that are developed towards a single type of person.
The idea is exceptional.
Now hopefully the features and user interface make it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Digg, an advertising network for geeks
- beezn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2We do that a lot here.
digg should be subtitled "Killer of sites" - Ragnar0k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Sounds like an interesting concept, too bad I can't see it (403 - Site died horribly via shovel effect)
Until then, if you want to talk to some geeks, we'll see you on the darknet.
``Ragnarok - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2According to http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html it means:
10.4.4 403 Forbidden
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. If the request method was not HEAD and the server wishes to make public why the request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe the reason for the refusal in the entity. If the server does not wish to make this information available to the client, the status code 404 (Not Found) can be used instead.
Don't digg down the first post folks. The community is about communicating.
Stop being cheeto-hogging asshats. - fac3less, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I guess that was a diss.
I liked it. Subtle, almost.
Subtle like a trainwreck. - CherryTzors, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
What is this? Some sort of initiation test? - dec0ded, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Interesting website, although it would be nicer if it worked ;).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Can't wait to try it out.
- aristoworks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Would love to take a look - although as of 7:30 Nashville time it's 403 Error.
- zlyoga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Niche social networks always seem to fail. The more people on a social networking site the better. And then within the massive number of people niches will form.
- 2gunnZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not trying to say that groups cant be intelligent, just not wise. There's a big difference in my opinion, but thats my opinion.
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