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- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -24/+216HD DVD will win because there is not porn on Blu-ray.
remember perverts always get to make the important desisions - ngageguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69"Can't stop the signal!" Mr. Universe - Serenity
- shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+68i don't really care, but seeing as its serenity, consider buying it just to up the chances of future serenity/firefly stuff :)
- skyhighrockets, on 10/12/2007, -12/+70Take my love. Take my land.
Take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free.
You can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black.
Tell 'em I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land And boil the sea.
You can't take the sky from me.
Have no place I can be since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me. - Xinareiaz, on 10/12/2007, -7/+65Aww, don't download it. Support firefly and buy the movie!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+48I'm not surprised, most private trackers don't want attention like this.
- neftaly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43With NZ ADSL bandwidth costs, it would be nearly as expensive to download the movie than to buy it. However, the fact that a pirated copy has no DRM crap makes Bittorrent an entirely viable source. Plus, I don't have to spend tonnes of cash on a player/burner only to get locked into one side of a format war.
@samdu: In the end, consumers decide - not the content creators. - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42I already bought it (Twice). Now I'm going to download it. Because:
1) Discs get scrathched. Not having the ability to back them up pisses me off.
2) Anything that pisses of the MPAA is good in my book. They're evil.
3) You can't stop the signal. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+45Following PM was sent from the site mods to the account holders:
It has come to the attention of the HDBits staff that with the successful decryption of AACS, the internet has been abuzz about this breakthrough in being able to backup your copyrighted HD DVD's. Add to that the fact that one of our users was able to decryt an HD DVD and upload it here, and people have even more to talk about. To prevent HDBits from receiving any more attention than we want, this new rule is now in effect:
Any users found mentioning this site in any public discussions/boards,
particularly ones about HD DVD's and AACS encryption, will be immediately banned.
NOTICE: This is a mass pm, it has been sent to everyone.
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/bittorrent/t-hd-dvd-has-been-cracked-and-torrents-149118 - TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -13/+44""""It's "HD DVD" not "HD-DVD"
There was never a hyphen and never will be. GET IT RIGHT.""""""
You know, anal retentive idiots like you is why I purposely do a lot of things like that. That is even why I sign my name to each post. It is fun to bother people that are so wrapped up in how other people do things, that it becomes their life.
Eric Wilson - cam18, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25shiny...
- Protoss, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29"I'm a leaf on the wind, watch as I soar."
- illt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25hopefully we'll start seeing some HDDVD x264 rips soon.
- jetsetgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22You can't stop the signal, you can never stop the signal.
- coldphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23..and there are fatter tubes.
- Bean945, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22He might be using invisible ink...
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23There already is porn on BluRay. That company was just garnering press.
Check the original Digg posting, someone posted a link to a review of BluRay porn titles.
I'm trying to search for it, but Digg's search sucks. - ucbmckee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1719gb? Egad. Predictable, but I don't have that sort of patience.
Also, I'd be very, very careful participating in HD torrents. The MPAA is going to go ***** crazy over this and will probably try aggressively squashing this far more so than regular DVDs. The peer community for things like this is going to start out small, which means that you will be much more 'visible' than for regular movies. Standard paranoia BS, I know, but peerguardian/safepeer/etc aren't -that- reliable. - kohan69, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Muslix64's exploit
On December 26, 2006 a person using the alias "muslix64" posted a utility named BackupHDDVD and its source code for a working AACS decryptor on the doom9.org forums. The program is not an exploit or hack per se. Rather it is a tool that can be used to decrypt AACS protected content once one knows the encryption key. As such, it is no surprise or indication of vulnerability that such a program is possible and it can be seen as merely an implementation of the publicly available standard AACS Guide. However, Muslix64 claims to have found title and volume keys in main memory while playing HD-DVD disks using a software player, and that finding them is not difficult.[13] Details of how to do this were revealed later (January 12, 2007) by other doom9.org forum members that also found title and volume keys of several movies in main memory of a software player called WinDVD.
On January 2, 2007 "muslix64" published a new version of his/her program, with volume key support.[1]
Cyberlink, developers of PowerDVD maintain that their software was not used as part of the exploit.[2]
The claimed attack (extraction of the encryption keys from a software player) highlights the inherent weakness of software movie players for the PC platform. The use of encryption doesn't offer any true protection in this scenario since the software player must have the encryption key available somewhere in memory and there's no way to protect against a determined hacker extracting the encryption key (if everything else fails the user could run the program in a virtual machine making it possible to freeze the program and inspect all memory addresses without the program knowing). Avoiding such attacks would require changes to the PC platform (see Trusted Computing) or that the content distributors do not permit their content to be played on PCs at all (by not providing the companies making software players with the needed encryption keys). Alternatively, they could use the AACS system's revocation mechanism to revoke a specific software player after it is known to have been compromised. In that case, the compromised players could still be used to break old titles but not newer releases as they would be released without encryption keys for the compromised software players requiring hackers to break other players. The latter alternative is not a desirable option, because it would result in legitimate users of compromised players being forced to upgrade or replace their player software in order to view new titles.
On January 13, 2007 "LordSloth" on Doom9 discovered how to grab the volume license keys from WinDVD's memory. With that discovery, it became possible to take backup of HD-DVDs. Later that day, the first pirated HD-DVD, Serenity, was uploaded on a private torrent tracker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hddvd - cliffmaier, on 10/12/2007, -12/+28Shut up. It's an awesome movie.
- Olle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I'm not all that crazy with DRM, but I'm with Xina here. Firefly is awesome SCI-FI. Don't steal from them. Steal from someone else if you have to.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16When HD-DVD media cost $0.19 each and the burners cost $50....Then i'll start giving a damn.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I'll be in my bunk.
- Simon80, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@SIRBERUS: totally incorrect - DVD-R and DVD+R are indeed separate formats, and analogous to HD DVD and Blu-ray. See http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/10/30/how-to-choose-cddvd-archival-media/
- Tordenflesk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18No torrent-link, no digg.
- coldphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@Jugulator
That's assuming the upload bandwidth of the peers is close to your d/l bandwidth. And the majority of the time on bittorrent, that is simply not the case. - sloncek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Lol..: Tomorrow its gonna be - Site shutdown due to FBI notice... not..
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I'm inclined to agree with samdu. It's been often cited that one of the reasons publishers have chosen blu-ray is because its DRM is perceived to be more secure. If this event proves that, it's logical to conclude this will bolster publisher support for blu-ray. Burying samdu without addressing that is like sticking your head in the sand.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1845993,00.asp
'"We made no secret when we approached both formats that we'd make a decision primarily on content protection," said Andrew Setos, president of engineering for the Fox Entertainment Group, in an interview.
"Our announcement last Friday that we would be in fact publishing on Blu-Ray disc best was a result of content protection, and no other issues," Setos added, including the potential cost of replicating the discs.' - jetsetgo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14"What does that mean? What the hell is that supposed to mean?"
"...i'm a leaf..." - nogami, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Soo... People will upload screenshots and post news anonymously then...
Sending threats to the very people who are using your system is very likely to backfire spectacularly...
(of course, I fully expect this site to be shut down by movie industry anyway within the next week or so - it's kind of a moot point anyway). - xxNIRVANAxx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14QUICK! Someone unclog the tubes!
... And then maybe send an HDbits invite - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Think VLC would do it?
- Billiam627, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I hate to play the Firefly/Serenity fanboy, but this just goes to show how much people love it. But dont download it, buy it and bring firefly back to TV
- TangentThought, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Could someone explain to me the encryptions on these medias? I've heard that if the AACS of HD DVD is broken, Blu-Ray would follow because it uses the same, if not similar AACS... right?
- WernerCD, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15m3mm0n:
Apparently the retarded ignorant masses have voted... and they vote that your anal retentive attention to detail... makes you an asshat.
in a world where 'ur' is acceptable slang, the addition or subtraction of a '-' is not gonna worry people in the least... presentation does matter, but in the end it doesn't affect the heart of the issues at hand.
Please... remove head from sphincter... THEN type. This goes to anyone who's gonna nit-pic and bitch about minor typos, or the difference between it's and its... - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+919 GB isn't that bad for people with more than 10 Mbps down... Which is many these days. Just put it to download over the night as you go to bed, and it'll have come a long way in the morning. Regular DVDR's are usually done by now. And now, you still don't need to care and can go to work, and when you come home it'll likely be done for watching the evening after starting the download. Of course, this assumes geeks sleep at night and have a normal work. Maybe a foolish assumption to make. :-)
- benjaminrayburn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Truly sad that a movie with such dedicated supporters is the first one to be stolen.
Also, ironic that a movie that ennobles thieves and smugglers is the first one stolen. - Elektriq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I know man... but it's never too late.
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9blu-ray will be cracked soon enough
- coldphoenix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Don't worry, I won't waste my bandwidth on something that big.
- zodiacal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8they are probably from tv.
- Sabin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"4) Once a person downloads it, they can "up convert" it themselves if they so desire. "
Yes, the magical resolution elves will come and replace the missing pixels.
Also, not sure what you have heard about Canada and high speed net access. I live in Toronto and I am still only able to get a 6mbit line from my cable provider. Sure, we DID have relatively fast internet connections in 1998 when we had 3.5mbit/384kbit while most "high speed" providers in the US were offering 384kbit/128kbit but now we are running on the same infrastructure that was in place 10 years ago and none of the providers seem to give a rats ass about trying to catch up with the rest of the planet. - STKD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Let's be bad guys.
- serpentor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8118 comments and yet no link to the torrent?? A sad day for my fellow digglets....
- dkm201, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I don't think porn is going to make as much of an effect as people think. Since the majority of porn is downloaded vs. bought or mailordered, at least compared to the period during which the other format wars took place.
- Cthalupa, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13I always laugh at private sites who get all pissed off when someone mentions them publicly, or people that worry about bit torrent getting too much publicity:
You think they don't know that HDBits, Scenetorrents, etc, all exist? You don't think they could get an account on the site if they wanted to?
Trust me. None of the good, big name, private trackers are flying under the radar.
As for who wants to download it? A lot of people with FIOS, or dedicated servers/vps that they rent for the sole purpose of downloading huge files in massive amounts. Not the average everyday joe in the latter regard, but I know several people who do this. - pozzoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Once both are cracked, what will avoid people from downloading and burning to whatever medium they choose?
- Backlash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6HD DVD was cracked because the 200 dollar xbox 360 drive could be connected to the PC.
There is no PC Blu-ray drive that can even come close to that price. - peanut97651, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Superman Returns is being uploaded in alt.binaries.hdtv, ~27.4GB
- STKD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I actually have four copies of the movie. The US version (because it was first out), the UK version (because I wanted the extra documentary), the US HD-DVD (I don't even own a player, it just seemed too cool not to have) and even the (spit) UMD (because it was dirt cheap). In time I'll have the Australian version too, for the extra Q+A session. Oh... and a certain 1080i copy but we don't go into that.
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