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- SSPink, on 10/13/2008, -3/+46Acid3 Test score of 88? Not bad, Firefox 3.0 only gets 71.
- ajamer, on 10/13/2008, -3/+32Pocket IE sucks
Opera mobile is pretty good but no Flash video support
Skyfire supports flash video but not VGA devices (yet)
hopefully, this will fill the gap (and allow extensions to run) - FeartheKnighted, on 10/13/2008, -4/+29Port it to Android...please.
- SuperCujo, on 10/13/2008, -2/+19And Symbian...
- vault, on 10/13/2008, -1/+17It's based on webkit, just like Chrome.
- morphinapg, on 10/13/2008, -1/+13And iPhone/iTouch...
...well at least for jailbroken devices, because Apple wouldn't let a competing browser into the app store. - MiddleOfNowhere, on 10/13/2008, -0/+11Yawn. These "X will be the death of Y" comments are so annoying.
Safari Mobile, Firefox Mobile, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, the S60 browser ... embrace ***** *diversity*. More browsers mean competition and improvement and - most important - that *everyone* has stick to the rules + standards - which means no more Internet Explorer-ish quasi-monopolies and vendor-lockins.
Is it so hard to understand that everyone (maybe except Microsoft) wins when we have many different clients; no matter what application or platform? - tr0n, on 10/13/2008, -2/+10Check out the "Development and Hacking" forums on xda-developers.com. Flash video works superb in the newer builds of Opera Mobile with the new flashlite 3 plugin installed.
- evanbooth, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7So I suppose Android will use an implementation of Chrome?
- Kumaku, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7I'll digg you down or up to keep you at +1 because I'm impartial.
- denimdragon, on 10/13/2008, -2/+9Nice!!! I'm glad they are doing a mobile browser
- ApolloImBurning, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7I think skyfire uses waaay more memory then Opera Mini
- Kishoba, on 10/13/2008, -0/+7So who was doing Minimo?
- tr0n, on 10/13/2008, -1/+7Just like the iPhone killed WinMo? Phones offered with WinMo as the operating system are geared towards a different market than iPhone & Andriod.
- Pixelpaws, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6Awesome as this is, the article omits one critical detail: a release date.
- SirDaShadow, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6http://images.google.com/images?q=Fennec&ie=UTF-8& ...
Images of Fennecs. Little cute foxes. - RyanJones, on 10/13/2008, -0/+6That's because it's based from trunk builds which currently get 90/100. As the engine is the same as that of Firefox (Gecko) it should score exactly the same with a few tweaks for the mobile engine (it has some issues with downloadable fonts and the like right now).
- Vich, on 10/13/2008, -0/+5Why did the submitter capitalise surface?
I thought there was now a mobile version of Microsoft Surface, the multi-touch table computer thing. - aserer511, on 10/13/2008, -1/+6pocket IE, consider yourself DEAD
- tange1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+5Not the guy from mozilla who blogged about this project - I was on the minimo project; wrote documentation and tested tons of minimo builds - this is about mozilla's 3rd attempt at a mobile browser.
- 0260, on 10/13/2008, -2/+7IE feels ancient, opera uses too much memory and skyfire needs you to log in. Firefox to the rescue, please
- uninspireded, on 10/13/2008, -0/+4A symbian version is planned! :D
- Nikropht, on 10/13/2008, -1/+5Looks awesome! I want it nooooooow.
- Giga, on 10/13/2008, -0/+4While I agree, it's a little out of place here...
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+4Opera Mobile 9.5 > PIE > Skyfire (it's at the bottom since it's not even a real browser). PIE is garbage, it has terrible formatting (thinking about how PIE renders Digg is a nightmare in itself, the idiot thing runs on a watered down IE4 engine and can't render ANY modern pages well. Opera Mobile, on the other hand, renders everything I throw at it in a clear fashion, just like a desktop browser would. Plus, Opera Mobile 9.5 is blazing FAST!!!!!! Compared to Minimo 0.2, Opera 8.65, and even PIE, Opera Mobile 9.5 renders very quickly and doesn't lock up the interface while loading (I can still scroll and pull up menus and such while the page is loading, something none of the others can do, other programs lock up and become unusable while loading pages).
- deadbaby, on 10/13/2008, -1/+5Considering how big the mobile internet market is becoming it's completely irresponsible for Microsoft as a company, with financial obligations to their share holders, to ship PocketIE. It's a truly awful browser. If they're not willing to do the work to make PocketIE usable they really just need to ship Firefox Mobile.
- Pixelpaws, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3I think the thread you were looking for is over here: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_Cash_Raise ...
- dullnation, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Interesting that they seemed to have styled it like the Mac version of Firefox for Windows Mobile...
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Minimo 0.2 was actually a decent browser. Hopefully Firefox Mobile gets it right once and for all.
- TheKappa, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Lol, I thought that the title meant that Microsoft was building a mobile version of their "Surface" computer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr1O917o4jI - inactive, on 10/13/2008, -1/+4Nice!
- jakem1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3I believe that, unlike on your iPhone, he's not limited to YouTube and can watch flash video wherever he finds it. Not bad considering that most (i.e. > 90%) of the flash video I watch is either YouTube clips embedded on other sites or doesn't come from YouTube at all.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3I like how you listed all browsers but Pocket IE. It doesn't deserve to be on the list anyways. I think Microsoft simply gave up on PIE, and for good reason, it's total garbage. I hope the Opera Mobile/Mobile Firefox/Safari Mobile competition makes all 3 of them better, that way PIE can be left for dead as everyone uses good browsers. Too bad Safari is only for iPhone/iPod Touch, though Opera Mobile 9.5 beta is just as good on my Axim X50v.
- tomz17, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3What are you smoking? Android on the Vogue is still a disaster compared to wm6.1. (I've tried all the builds since it was first released)
Unlock your vogue, and get an aftermarket ROM. Perhaps even try the manilla2d interface (some people like that). - inactive, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3MIRROR:
http://motivationals.org/mirror.php?h=1000&l=ffscr ... - CrushThemTorg, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3General convention for title case – usually headline writing – in American English is to capitalize all words except articles, conjunctions and prepositions except where it would run counter to normal sentence capitalization.
Personally, I think it's a little outmoded. - tomz17, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3In my experience, skyfire works fantastically on 3G/EVDO connections (where the latency is low), and sucks really hard on 1xrtt or edge (high latency). but it kills the battery when it's loaded in memory, and requires a subscription (right now free, but don't count on it staying that way)
The latest opera mobile takes quite a bit longer to render (than skyfire), and doesn't do some of the more advanced ajax/flash stuff... but renders everything locally, seems more responsive on 1xrtt/edge, and does an equally good job on most pages! (also not free)
picsel is a stability nightmare, but it does other file formats (for instance, PDF's), and the zoom is really nice and smooth (also not free, and not even for sale, actually!)
Netfront has a unique text only (and low graphics) mode, and is stupidly fast compared to the competition when in that mode. (not free)
Pocket IE still wins on websites that were specifically designed for mobile devices (fastest load, most responsive). But sucks for pretty much everything else. (free!) - RafiParrr, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Oddly enough, there's a mobile version of chrome for android called chromium separate from the Android's default browser, which, as stated above, is indeed also based on webkit.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3I don't know what you're saying about WinMo being slow. I have an Axim X50v with WM6.1 and it flies through programs. Opera Mobile 9.5 is awesome on it, loads really fast and has smooth scrolling. Can't wait for Firefox to come out.
- kevyn, on 10/13/2008, -0/+3Will they be making an N95 version?
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2Wish I had Visual Studio so I could compile it. I've been waiting for this to surface, and now that it "works" I'd like to try it out (even if it is early alpha or pre-alpha). Why can't they release binaries on the testing/development site!
- balla786, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2Thank you sir for that piece of information!!
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2Just now? Pocket IE never was alive, think Frankenstein but without the monster ever becoming alive, Microsoft just threw the dead body of IE4 into a mobile box and shipped it with it's PocketPC operating systems, when they made Windows Mobile 5 and 6, they never bothered to upgrade the dead corpse that was Pocket IE. Why we have to carry around that dead body of a browser when we have Opera 9.5, Minimo, and soon Firefox I don't know, but anyways, PIE is dead, always has been, always will be.
- r3zonance, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2" Android on the Vogue is still a disaster compared to wm6.1."
WM6.1, is that the one where the alarms don't go off at the right time unless you disable them or something crazy. - tomz17, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2Because posting binaries takes time and doesn't add anything to the development effort at this stage... furthermore clueless people will download them, blog about them, and form opinions based on really rough pre-production code.
Leaving it in source form effectively limits the software to a select portion of the population that is
(a) mature enough to understand the current state of the software... reducing the risk of garnering a bad initial opinion among the masses. (Remember, initial impression counts!)
(b) capable of supporting themselves and actually contributing to development - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2It's out of place, I really like Mobile Firefox and can't wait for it to come out, but your point is too good to bury, it's still worth a digg.
- r3zonance, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2"Pocket IE still wins on websites that were specifically designed for mobile device"
On a Windows Mobile device, maybe. - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2I like the interface, but personally I don't want any preview windows or oversized buttons for clumsy fingers taking up precious screen space. I prefer a layout with just a thin taskbar on top with Address bar, stop/refresh, and maybe a Home or drop down box for history/recent pages. This gives you more room for the page. With a VGA screen, you can pretty much view it without too much scrolling.
I'd really like to see a separate Text Size option (from the Zoom option). I want images to be full-size (or near full size) but scale down the text (since text is technically a vector image, you can scale it without distortion or loss of information). PIE used to have this (good for VGA devices where you can see the full images on the screen but make text smaller to fit the page better) but then changed it with a stupid Zoom option. If you can't read small text, fine, turn up the text size, but those of us who can read small text would like the option to make it smaller (and if you can't read small text, it means you need new glasses, I wear glasses and read small text fine). - CalcProgrammer1, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2I'd be able to compile it if there were some sort of free program out there though. That's the thing, they use Visual Studio (guess they kinda have to) but the free version doesn't do PocketPC. People who post negative comments about pre-release software are total idiots, but yeah, that's a good point. I've visited the Mobile page on the Mozilla Wiki quite a few times, waiting for a test release. I like to test early software (using the Opera Mobile 9.5 beta now, quite an awesome program) and a lot of times even early release software is quite usable (until I got Opera 9.5b I used Minimo 0.2, even at 0.2 it's miles ahead of PIE, which is total garbage).
- etx313, on 10/13/2008, -0/+2This looks awesome but I can't stand windows mobile anymore. I have been running android on my htc vogue or the last few weeks thanks to some very smart people who got it working!
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