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- devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39That's awesome, but they must have gotten the patient suuuper drunk before he agreed to let a ROBOT. CUT. HIM.
- MikeHinds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Fine. Now all the Rat Lovers Of The World (RLOTW) are going to protest.
- Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@Ace: A robot's only as focused and accurate as the software developer designed it to be. Forgetting to abs() a value could mean the difference between a gentle slice or a vicious stabbing motion.
ROBOT. KEEEEEEEEEEEELL. NOW. - Clearz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12"Whats wrong with a robot? 100% focused and accurate, sounds ok to me, just as long as its been tested on some rats or something"
Yeah 100% focused until something unexpected happens that it is not programmed for and then the blue screen of death happens. Quite literally. - cookiebearo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8cool
can we outsource surgery to india plz
it's too expensive right now - isosceles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@Ace you mean as long as it wasn't running Windows.
Right on Clearz... a whole new meaning to Blue Screen of Death. - bowe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5actually, from the article that doesn't seem to be correct. What you are talking about is "telesurgery" which is different than robotic surgery. This robot has "learned" the actions to be carried out by following what surgeons have done in the past and is now using this information to carry out the surgery.
From the Article:
""It has learned to do the job thanks to experience gathered from operations on 10,000 patients," Pappone said, pointing out that the robot carries the expertise of several human surgeons used to boost its software. "
From the Headline:
"Robot Carries out Operation by itself" - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Although human hands have made many a mistake over the years, you're right on the drunk part. He must have been out of his mind to let a robot slice and dice.
- Ace2005, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Whats wrong with a robot? 100% focused and accurate, sounds ok to me, just as long as its been tested on some rats or something
- Ace2005, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why can't you trust a robot, not like its going to steal your liver and sell it on ebay or something, no emotions, just does what it was programmed to do. A robot would be fine as long as you can truest the programmer
- WeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52-1B should be a reality in my lifetime, that will be nice.
For now, I would also need to be out cold for a while, I don't want to see or hear whats going on.
Carlo Pappone, who initiated and monitored the surgery on a "PC"
What if it was windows, this would suck "Windows has performed an illegal operation and will now be shut down" - boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It actually is much cheaper in India, even with human surgeons. There was a story about this on 60 Minutes awhile ago.
Obviously, your insurance won't cover it, and any malpractice suit would have to go through Indian jurisprudence. On the other hand... it's much, much cheaper. - DocGable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4and i always thought it was : "above all, do the HUSTLE"
- AnGryTreE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Does the robot double-bill and play bad golf too?
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I for one welcome our new robot surgeons.
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Are you too lazy to google "Carlo Pappone robot surgery"?
- ideasyncrasy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, I found the article very sketchy - so sketchy, in fact, that there's not enough detail to confirm, deny, or clarify the "by itself" concept. "Monitoring" the operation suggests watching, not guiding. Okay, so semantically the robot's not "by itself" if someone is watching, but if that's *all* the doctor did, seems pretty clear to me that the robot did the surgery by itself.
After all, it's not at all unusual to monitor programs or systems we've designed when we first put them to use, to identify and work out any kinks - then eventually we just run them automatically without monitoring. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Your brother has no stomach? Is he a freak?"
Well, he had one before the knife-wielding Roomba got to him. - yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Next time, robots carrying out war by itself.
- DocGable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2so what happens if there is a unexpected complication? will the robot twist its head and burst into flames? or on a rare anatomic anomaly, will it ask to insert another disk. i am a surgeon and i am sure when for example a bleeding occurs my hands will always be faster in handling the situation than these robots
10 on bleeding goto 20
20 use suction to check where bleeding is located
30 if bleeding = 1 goto 40
40 print "help"
50 goto 40 - ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Your brother has no stomach? Is he a freak?
- DaveSadler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Oh don't worry, the hospitals won't charge us any less...
- unclescrotor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The patient dies....Doctor is heard to mutter under his breath "Damned lag!"
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@Rasterbator
I was thinking more on the lines of:
"Please state the nature of the medical emergency" ;) - yaosio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2How was the robot performing the surgery long distance when it's in the room? Did they test the robot on a dummy first? Has the writer of this poorly written article been fired yet?
- vmerc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Oh my god! That code segment is horrible! You should move away from BASIC, and use a more modern programming language. Not to mention GOTO summons a demon and kills a kitten every time you type it.
NOOO!!!!!!
This article is entirely misleading, and the unpredictability of surgery is far beyond the powers of computers today. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, but who cares: the "law" of robotics doesn't mean anything... it's fictional. :)
- WeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Nurse: Doctor! the robot is removing his lungs!
Doctor: Oh *****! I entered the wrong program! hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE!! stat!
Nurse: I can't doctor, there seems to be a message on the screen, it says "Transfer $100 to my mobile account and I will send you unlock utility", didn't you upgrade the virus software? - kordless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The article is a tad miss-leading by saying the robot did things like "carried out a long-distance heart operation by itself". Another portion of the article says the surgeon in Boston "monitored" the operation.
Simply put, there is not robot that can operate on a human "by itself". We barely have technology that can drive a car on the road by itself. Both the title here and the article are misleading in regards to trying to make it sound like the robot did all the work - by itself. - Breeder18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This, if it is true, is amazing!! To think that a robot has the Knowledge of multiple Surgeons!! If it is true... so promising... I am sure the software was tested for stability, especially for something this sensitive!
- ideasyncrasy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Only if surgery also breaks the Hyppocratic Oath ("Above all, do no harm")
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1He's dead, Doctor."
"OMG LAG!" - DocGable, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1and india will win?
http://digg.com/robots/India_announces_plans_to_develop_robot_army - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2wow. All i've seen robots do is dance up until now, maybe all those shows were there down time?
- dbug, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2We will never know...
- Grimdotdotdot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Doesn't this break the first rule of robotics?
(something like 'A robot is not allowed to harm a human?') - compressedaudio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1anyone remember Medibot from Look Around You?
- Inkling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1PhysOrg.com is the National Enquirer of science websites. I can't find this story on any reputable site. This looks like a hoax, has anyone found this on a real news site?
- vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You mean like emotions like Hate, Fear, Anger, Cowardness, Greed, and Resentment?
- rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is the robot's name Doctor Zachary Smith?
Model B-9 Environmental-Control Robot,
WARNING! WARNING! DANGER WILL ROBINSON!
http://www.lostinspacetv.com/ - Reddog_x2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm hoping that someone competent was there to intervene if the robot screwed up or ran into something unexpected. That's not made clear in the article.
- djhash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So.. what's next? Assembly surgery lines? People lying flat on a conveyor belt going into machines that do the surgery in steps. Then you'll have LEAN surgery Assembly (specially designed for Liposuctoin)..
I surely dont think there will be any robot whatsoever that will do the whole surgery from start to finish... lots of unexpected situations.. and lots of inconsistencies.. no one is born a carbon copy of everyone else even twins have their differences when they are growing. What about people with hearts on the right side instead of the left?
Error: Organ not found. If it was installed from a disk or a network path please place ni the disk or connect to network folder. (Abort, Retry, Bury and escape Malpractice Suit) - andrewtheart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I guess I'm not the only one to realize that surgery outsourcing is coming closer and closer. If this is only 2006, think what the robots will be able to do in 2016?
- nofunnyshtuff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Come on, robots are so much more precise. When my brother had a stomach I jerryrigged a swiss army knife to my Roomba and totally fixed him up good. This I voided the warrenty (on the Roomba, not my brother).
- Romance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Damn robots taking our jobs! Quick, build a wall along the coast so that the french robot heart surgeons can't sneak in!
Wow, I'd have to be paid extravagant amounts of money to let a robot cut me up. It's not that I hate robots or anything, but I would have to worry as to whether or not it was programmed correctly. One little problem and the thing could slice me up good. - dmurray14, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Maybe NASA should have hired these guys?
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2006-05-16-dart-report_x.htm?POE=TECISVA - darkwurm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I just spit out my drink on that comment funny funny. I would guess there are human assistants there just in case. The real question is, will this lower the cost of surgical care or increase it? And please tell me this thing doesn't run on windows...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ahahaha indeed, but that will never happen... too much money is to be made from surgeries in the US
- Romance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Whoops, I meant Italian robot heart surgeons. My bad.
- kordless, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I found another article that states that the computer is controls the placement of the catheter tip for the ablation. That makes a lot more sense than some robot doing the whole thing.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-05/g-hrs051006.php -
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